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Post by lazy penguin on Feb 16, 2020 15:55:13 GMT -5
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After falling off the face of the earth for like 3 months I'm back and craving a classic clan rp. While I've tried to make successful multi-clan rps in the past, none of them were major successes, and always sparked out after a month or two of rp. However, I've always loved the concept of multiple clans because it allows for a different flavor of conflict. One with rich history and ancient feuds. So to try and balance things out I'm planning a 2-3 clan rp set in an alpine climate.
The Plot:
The plot of this rp centers around a prophecy received by all the medicine cats of the clans reading:
As treaties break and cliffsides shake,
Then all shall know despair. Snow of fire, the mountain’s ire Will reign in poison air.
When mournful cries ring through the skies And all is drenched in cold, There will come those whom Fate has chose; Heroes with blood of Gold.
At nights long end, their light shall rend The misty depths of pain- To bring back life, to end all strife, And raise us once again While at first apprehensive about the danger warned about, the clans begin speculating about the heroes mentioned and their lineage. They begin to speculate about which leader will be related to these cats, and which clan they will belong to. That is, until one of the leader's mates is found murdered on the border between clans. This starts an all out war, with each side showing no signs of relenting. When the kits are born (~3 from each clan), they are subject to a upbringing full of war and strife, and told that they are destined to be the heroes of the inciting prophecy. But will these prophesied cats be enough to stop the impending disaster or will they fall to the mountain alongside their clanmates?
Roles Needed For Major Plot(just an estimate rn); 2-3 leaders & their mates Mate that dies Minimum 2-3 Medicine Cats who receive the prophecy 3-10 prophecy kits The Clans/Territory:
The Clans themselves center around a towering mountain, with one clan situated in the valleys near the based, and the other closer to the mountain peak. There could also be a third possible clan living in the tunnels and caves of the mountain, but that's only if enough people show interest. The biome is based around alaska and the alaskan alpine so predators and prey would be like the following:
prey: mice, shrews, voles, rabbits, birds (songbirds, hawks, and eagles), muskrats, lemmings, squirrels, marmots, woodchucks, beavers, pikas, bats
predators: otters, minks, weasels, wolverines, raccoons, bears (brown and black more common than white), wolves, foxes, coyotes, lynxes
others: mountain goats, caribou, elk, deer, moose
The clans' structures would be the same as the books with a leader, deputy, medicine cat, warriors, queens, apprentices, and elders. And the moonpool equivalent is a dense fog at the summit of the mountain simply referred to as The Haze.
All of the leaders of the clans are bad leaders in different ways. One is extremely incompetent and lazy, one extremely vain and selfish, and one is extremely aggressive and violent.
Ideas for clan names: Upper Clan (run by lazy penguin ) : SummitClan, PeakClan, CliffClan; Lower Clan (run by @stitchlover20 ): RiftClan, ValleyClan, MeadowClan; Tunnel/Cave Dwellers (run by kiwi cheesecake ): EchoClan, GrottoClan, CrumbleClan
How to help:
Right now I am currently looking for any kind of help, whether it be wanting to help lead or moderate a clan, or simply just sharing which ideas you like the most on this thread. If you want to help by running a clan I will read through message history to see if you're a good fit (looking for leaders to be around semi-lit to literate, and able to post about 5+ lines as a minimum), if you can type more than you have been in recent rps, feel free to include an rp sample, but it is not necessary. I'll probably be spitballing all my ideas down below so feel free to give feedback even if you're not interested in joining when the rp is up and running. Thanks and have a fabulous day!
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Post by kiwi cheesecake on Feb 17, 2020 10:51:36 GMT -5
I'm intrested in this! Don't know what exactly I can do to help, though. Can I make you a territory map or something?
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Post by lazy penguin on Feb 17, 2020 15:00:20 GMT -5
a territory map would be killer my dude. We're you interested in running a clan or just helping out? Rn I feel like focusing on traditions might be interesting? Idk I have like nothing for those and sometimes traditions affect how the territory is set up and stuff. I have some things typed up for history if you'd want to see that? It's all subject to change but it might help develop possible plots and traditions and stuff.
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Post by kiwi cheesecake on Feb 17, 2020 18:26:19 GMT -5
a territory map would be killer my dude. We're you interested in running a clan or just helping out? Rn I feel like focusing on traditions might be interesting? Idk I have like nothing for those and sometimes traditions affect how the territory is set up and stuff. I have some things typed up for history if you'd want to see that? It's all subject to change but it might help develop possible plots and traditions and stuff. I can totally start drawing one then. I've been itching to sketch anyways ^^
And I was thinking of maybe running the clan at the base of the Mountains? I think I could do some interesting things with the leader from there and stuff. I can start thinking of Traditions too, for sure! Did you have any sort of ideas for your Traditions that would be a good leaping off point? I feel like maybe the whole group of cats was the same at one point, and maybe infighting caused a war between the group. Then the lower valley cats forced the others up into the mountains, and sorta hung around the bottom in a prolonged siege. And maybe they either made a peace treaty to stop the conflict cause of the abundance of predators around the area that they needed to protect each other from, or it's possible its just been so long they forgot the war entirely.
...all that to say it'd be cool if the clans shared some basic ideas for traditions that each of them celebrate in their own way.
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Post by lazy penguin on Feb 17, 2020 21:44:33 GMT -5
i have literally nothing for traditions lmao. but i do like what you have about the clans originally being one at some point. I knew that I wanted the cats to originally settle the land because of the mountains, like they saw them as a beacon for StarClan or something. We could also play around with the northern lights for traditions, since those would definitely be a thing?
If they were the same clan at one point it makes sense that they would share some traditions. Some of the more common ones I usually come up with have to do with an adapted warrior ceremony. Maybe we could do something for when kits are born too? I don't usually see that done, and with the plot centering around the birth of kits we could probably do something cool with that. idk just spit-balling.
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Post by Falconwing on Feb 18, 2020 23:16:46 GMT -5
I love mountain terrain based clans! I would be down to help out in any which way possible. I see you already have someone doing the map. I would be willing to lead a clan or even be a medicine cat. The latter preferred but I am open to the first. Just let me know I will let you know that on the weekends including Friday night I am unavailable due to work and family. But any other time especially during the early half of the day I am available to roleplay/brainstorm.
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 14, 2020 12:17:42 GMT -5
Oof life got insane for the past month but I'm still in love with this idea. Anyone still interested?
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Mar 14, 2020 12:37:56 GMT -5
this looks super cool and i've been wanting to rp with you bc i do feel kinda bad about losing interest in palmclan ^.^'
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Post by Falconwing on Mar 14, 2020 14:26:21 GMT -5
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 14, 2020 14:41:39 GMT -5
ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » aww don't feel bad, i feel like palmclan was more my fault to since i kept pushing back dates and such. i'd love to rp with you again too tho!
Falconwing okay chill! were you still interested in a medicine cat position?
let me pop on my computer y'all, and pull up what i've written for this in my downtime
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Post by Falconwing on Mar 14, 2020 14:43:24 GMT -5
Medicine cat sounds good to me
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 14, 2020 15:10:06 GMT -5
ope this was not nearly as organized as i remember lmao. anyway here are my random scribbles of nonsense that i wrote down~
- rp ideally starts after medicine cats receive prophecy, or when leader's mate is killed. then we do a timeskip to when all the kits have been born, and can show how war has changed the clans? idk it would probably be better if we rped stuff naturally with the progression of the war but i don't want the plot to stall so
- prophecy kits are all kin of current leaders- despite the majority of cats believing they have to be the direct children. this could lead to an interesting plot line if the prophecy kits are born alongside a litter from the leader, so everyone thinks the prophesied kits are the leader's kits when in reality they're not.
- prophecy kits don't have powers, but need a way to know that they're the ones in the prophecy? idk maybe we can be cliche and have them visited by the ancestors or something?
- when visiting the haze, medicine cats don't have to fall asleep- they simply wander in until they are alone and the ancestors form themselves out of the dense fog. during prophecies and visions, the haze itself twists and contorts into the visuals. it takes about a day from the upperclan camp and one and a half from the lowerclan camp to reach the summit.
- the northern lights would definitely be a thing here- maybe they see it as approval from their ancestors or it ties into some tradition they have?
- drea's idea of the upperclan originally being driven away by the lowerclan is a great idea for the history of the clans and could lead to some interesting dynamics even before war breaks out in rp.
the rest of my notes really center around the upperclan territory and camp stuff so
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Mar 14, 2020 15:38:51 GMT -5
oooo that all sounds super interesting!’
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Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 14, 2020 15:43:20 GMT -5
Sounds like an awesome rp! I'm not sure about joining just yet because I'm not that confident in my writing-skills, though.
Have you already decided on the clan names? You have three possible names for each clan. Are you going to pick one or are you letting others vote on what names they prefer? (I love the name RiftClan!)
I don't have any ideas for traditions either. You mentioned the northern lights. How often would they occur? Maybe we could think of something if we knew that.
As for the prophecy kits, when do they know about being the ones in the prophecy? When they are still kits, when they are apprentices or maybe when they are warriors? It would be important for their character development, wouldn't it? But that's up to those who play them, I guess.
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 14, 2020 16:44:27 GMT -5
hey Pineclaw no worries, thanks for the help anyways. i'm not going to have a strict word count or anything just no one-liners and stuff, so i wouldn't worry too much about your writing skills if you wanted to join!
for clan names i was going to leave those to the other running the clans, those were just a few suggestions (although i too love riftclan)
so for the rp i was loosely basing the location off of the alaskan alpine so they'd have the chance of being visible from September to April. However they are extremely unpredictable so it wouldn't be like the clans would see them every night or even really know the season when they appear. its possible they could just been seen as a good omen in the clans- maybe some see it as the ancestors approving the actions of the day or something like that?
as for the prophecy kits, i figured they'd know of the prophecy from birth- but wouldn't receive the sign until (late) apprenticeship? that way we could still do plots where the wrong kits were thought to be part of the prophecy as well as having the actual kits feel the immense pressure from early on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 16:51:48 GMT -5
Hey!! I am here to help XD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 17:02:12 GMT -5
Maybe they cats in the prophecy find out by being the first cats in years to see the northern lights while StarClan cats whispering they're the ones? Or maybe suddenly during the day the sun gets covered, but only the chosen ones see it happening and the northern lights change into many cats telling them they are the ones in the prophecy
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Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 14, 2020 17:02:48 GMT -5
Huh. Looks like I can join after all. Thanks!
Hm... With the northern lights being so unpredictable it would make sense if the cats saw them as an omen of some kind, like you said. What would happen if some kits were born in such a night? Would that mean the clan would have high hopes for them? Not in the 'those kits are special, they must be the chosen ones' kinda way. More like 'StarClan is watching over these kits, they will be exceptional warriors one day.' Or maybe all kinds of ceremonies could be held at night. Warrior ceremonies, apprentice ceremonies etc. And if they happen during a night when the northern lights can be seen the clan will take this as a good sign. That those apprentices or warriors are truly blessed by StarClan or something. I dunno.
Yikes, that's some pressure on the kits. I especially like the idea of how the wrong kits are mistaken for the chosen ones. You know, if I were to make a 'prophecy kit' I would either make them insecure and overwhelmed with such a huge responsibility or I'd make them arrogant, thinking they're better than anyone else because StarClan chose them. That cat would be in need of some serious character development. There's so much that could be done with the chosen kits.
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 14, 2020 22:25:49 GMT -5
I really like the idea of ceremonies taking place at night/in the dark, and yeah i think they'd see it more as approval or support for sure. as for what the prophecy kits see i was thinking maybe they saw spirits in the morning fog during an early morning patrol or something? since the haze is much more of a dense fog and that's what they would 100% connect to the ancestors/StarClan.
for prophecy kits there also the fact that the clans don't know how many there are supposed to be- or if they're just going to come from one clan. so maybe if a litter is born/made apprentices under the northern lights the clan they belong to could make the argument that only those cats were part of the prophecy because starclan/the ancestors sent the northern lights to them and not the others? idk just spitballing.
yeah there's a ton of unique ways you can mess with the personality/egos of the poor kids.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 22:47:29 GMT -5
I really like the spirits in the fog idea
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 23:02:29 GMT -5
Will the cats be pampered by the clans when they think it's them or will they be treated like normal? I can see siblings or others becoming jealous by them
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Post by Falconwing on Mar 14, 2020 23:27:38 GMT -5
Theses are all really great ideas. I love the whole haze where the spirits of their ancestors form.
The whole northern lights thing is awesome, maybe when certain colors appear they can mean specific things. Like when the clouds cover the moon at gatherings. Certain colors can mean warnings or good omens. Medicine cats could also see visions within the lights from Starclan and interpret them like dreams.
Also I think if would be good to have a couple of key characters that are antagonistic to help the plot continuously evolve.
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Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 15, 2020 8:20:03 GMT -5
I've been thinking... given the location, are midnight sun/polar days and polar nights a thing in this rp? And if they are, would they mean anything to the clans?
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 15, 2020 10:45:29 GMT -5
i can definitely see the clans pampering the prophecy kits @stitchlover20 , but i could also see them being put through rigorous training and watched under very critical eyes because the clan believes they need t be ready for anything. i think it would just depend on the clan/leader.
Falconwing oooo i actually really like the interpretation of the color makeup being part of what determines if its a good or bad omen. maybe like the more greens and blues the better the omen, but if there's a lot of yellow or pink the worse the meaning? Yeah for antagonists i was planning on having all 3 of the leaders be bad in the own way. then we'd have the murderer, as well as other cats from the clans who hate the other clans/a single clan (maybe a sibling or someone they loved got killed in battle and they want revenge?).
yeah Pineclaw, they would definitely be a thing! i know in the northern tip of alaska polar night lasts around 2 months so we could stick to that maybe? it about the same time frame for midnight sun. Maybe they have a sort of celebration on the equinoxes?
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Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Abbey Champion
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 15, 2020 11:07:14 GMT -5
So, going with Falconwing's idea, cooler colors are seen as good and warmer colors are seen as bad?
Hm. Around two months. That's pretty long but I bet there's something those phenomenons could mean to the cats. Maybe they'll have a weaker connection to StarClan with the midnight sun? Or at least they think they do. As for the equinoxes: sounds great! Would the cats have a name for it? Not sure if they know the word 'equinox' so maybe they call it something else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 11:19:59 GMT -5
A tradition could be after becoming a warrior, they make this paint type stuff (mud with berries mixed in for color) and place their paw print on a large wall at the peak where many cats from years ago has done? Shows you’ve proven yourself to the clan and leaves legacy in a way behind.
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Post by Falconwing on Mar 15, 2020 11:21:35 GMT -5
Oooooh @stitchlover20 that sounds epic! Very traditional and will probably hold great weight to all apprentices and warriors.
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 15, 2020 11:32:17 GMT -5
yeah i like the idea that they feel that they have a better connection to the ancestors in the dark, especially since you usually see fog most common in the early morning hours just before sunrise. maybe for the equinoxes they could be called like 'the last sunset/sunrise'? technically they're not the last, but i feel like the name still works? idk
i'm in love with that tradition stitch! i also like it being completely universal, with all the clans putting their pawprints next to/near each other. like it reminds them of the fact that they all used to be a single clan/group at one point?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 11:45:40 GMT -5
Aw thanks xD I came up with it on a whim because I know in the books they sat vigil and this fits more with the mountains area to me
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 15, 2020 11:53:06 GMT -5
yeah it fits really well! plus it reminds me of when apprentices had to visit the moonstone in the earlier books- especially since the mountain peak is where the haze is and such.
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