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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 15:01:34 GMT -5
Oh that’s a really cool idea!
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 16, 2020 15:03:22 GMT -5
i think there would be an equivalent, maybe it just has a dumb cliche name like 'the realm of night' or something?
haha i'm glad u like it
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 16, 2020 15:12:46 GMT -5
I think it's more the darkness itself that's seen as bad than the night. The night is or was kinda an important part of the clan's traditions. You know, since the clan's connection to their ancestors might be weaker during polar day, as we've discussed earlier, maybe they Evil McBaddies could be the Bringers of the Midnight Sun? Or something even more cliche like The Dark Ones, Hunters in the Shadows, The Corrupted... Jeez, I should stop xD
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 16, 2020 15:26:23 GMT -5
that makes sense.
maybe something like 'warriors of dark' or if they're just referred to as 'shadows' or something dumb? idk.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 17:00:55 GMT -5
The Realm of Shadows The Realm of the Forgotten The Forgotten Shadows Shadows of the Fallen Shadows of the Lost Forsaken Ones
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 16, 2020 17:19:16 GMT -5
Shadowrealm. Nah, just kidding. Warriors of the Frozen Light Eternal Darkness The Outcasts Vengeful Shadows
Yikes, it just keeps on getting worse xD
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Mar 16, 2020 17:42:43 GMT -5
forsaken ones would sound cool i think
edit x.x as i didn’t mean cool idk why i typed that. -.- i mean it would avoid casting night as “evil” while simultaneously giving the impression of a darkness in the cat
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 16, 2020 20:56:01 GMT -5
Okay okay okay I was talking to drea and she brought up an interesting point.
Keeping with what we had established with the northern lights we know that warm colors (red, pink, and yellow) are seen as a bad omen while cool colors (blue, green, and purple) were seen as good. Maybe the 'evil' ancestors were symbolized by shadow or dark, but by these harsher colors. Eternal Lights still works for "StarClan" but for the "Dark Forest" we could do something like Erring Lights?
That could tie into the whole sunset/sunrise aspect as that tends to be when these colors are more prevalent. It is also when the most fog is present. Maybe the clans see these times as day as extremely dangerous, and see the fog/mist as a gift from the ancestors to obscure and hide them from evil? That could also explain why there is a celebration focused around the last sunsets/sunrises before long periods of darkness or light?
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Mar 16, 2020 20:58:37 GMT -5
erring lights sounds amazing!!!
and that all sounds like a great idea!
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 16, 2020 21:24:57 GMT -5
Thank you khale
It would be interesting if clan cats every stumbled across a city then- since most artificial light has a yellow hue.
I think we've pretty thoroughly covered traditions then, did you guys want to move on to something else? I have general ideas for history and plot if we wanted to develop those? Or we could work out territory details?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 21:27:31 GMT -5
Working on territory sounds fun
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 16, 2020 22:37:00 GMT -5
Alrighty territory it is. So I know I have a couple locations planned for the upper clan including like so steep cliffs that are good for hunting birds/bird eggs and hatchlings but only warriors can go there because they crumble so much, and old forest that was burnt up during a wildfire like 4 years ago so we have some new growth among the ash, and a giant waterfall- maybe it could function as like a border between the upper and lower clans? Like the top belongs to the upper clan and the pool at the bottom to the lower? I wasn't working on territory detail for the other clans but I figured most if the lower clan would be more meadowy that forested? Up to u tho.
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 17, 2020 10:26:06 GMT -5
I suppose only warriors are allowed to got anywhere near the waterfall? And apprentices can only go there if they're accompanied by their mentors? So for each clan we need some good places for hunting and some training grounds. The latter would be easy to figure out for the lower clan, but where do the apprentices of the upper clan practice their battle moves? Maybe in the burnt forest?
Do you already know how many characters everyone gets to play? Or is there no real limit to it except the usual 'as long as you can play them all equally'?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 11:21:32 GMT -5
Is the middle clan at the base of the mountain or on the mountain?
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 17, 2020 11:25:35 GMT -5
@stitchlover20 the third clan lives in the tunnels and caves of the mountain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 11:26:35 GMT -5
I meant the lower clan
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 17, 2020 11:31:04 GMT -5
Right, you said middle clan so I thought you didn't mean the lower one ^^ According to the starting post the lower clan lives in the valleys near the base of the mountain. I guess we'll have to wait until lazy penguin is online again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 11:36:30 GMT -5
Well that answers it XD I would read the first post than forget some details about it ^-^"
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 17, 2020 12:05:40 GMT -5
sorry i've been swamped with online classes this morning- but i only have 2 more to get through.
the way i imagined it was that the upper clan lived in the middle & lower parts of the mountain, the lower clan lived in the valleys and meadows below with maybe some territory along the base/lower mountain, and the tunnel clan lived inside the mountain- but closer to the base than the summit. the summit itself is pretty rocky, icy, and cold, so most cats tend to avoid it as it isn't the best place for hunting. because of that the summit/peak is used pretty much solely for religious journeys to the haze, or as a desperate place for the upper clan to hunt if they're like starving to death.
but i'm up for different ideas if anyone has any!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 12:10:19 GMT -5
Will there be any twoleg interactions such as camp grounds, cabins, lodges, etc?
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 17, 2020 13:15:39 GMT -5
there wouldn't be many two-leg/human interactions here based on the location, as well as the fact that i feel like two-legs are hardly ever used for plots and if they are it just takes the conflict away from character vs character and makes things more boring rather than interesting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 17, 2020 13:17:18 GMT -5
also i'm done with all my classes except for art today, so hopefully i'll be more active now!
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 17, 2020 13:23:56 GMT -5
What's the clan's stance on loners and rogues? If there are any. There's enough conflict between the clancats already so maybe that's not even relevant. Do they follow the warrior code as we know it or do they have their own set of laws and rules?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 13:37:42 GMT -5
Alright XD That is true twolegs don't hold an importance now that I think about it. It's only used for kittypets xD
I didn't even think about the Warrior Code and how it applies to our clans xO Is there stance about medicine cats not having kits still there?
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 17, 2020 14:08:16 GMT -5
I don't think they'd see a ton of loners and rogues, so they're either very trusting and open to them as they haven't had bad experiences with loners in the past or very hostile and isolationist. Idk which one makes the most sense tho, maybe it varies between the clans?
I think the warrior/medicine cat code would be the same just cause it makes things easier tbh. Unless there was a specific rule u think should/would be changed?
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 17, 2020 14:18:52 GMT -5
It would make sense if it's different for each clan. Maybe the lower clan is more open to strangers while the other two are more hostile or distrusting? Actually, I can imagine the upper clan to be the most isolationist for some reason.
I can't think of any rule that needs to be changed. Especially the one about how the leader's word is law seems to be important, considering you want the leaders to be somewhat bad at what they do. But maybe the leaders would try to change the rule about deputies becoming the new leaders? The vain and selfish one would probably want a cat that's related to them as their successor. But then again all that leader would have to do is choosing that relative as their deputy. So maybe changing that rule isn't necessary after all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 14:20:37 GMT -5
I can see both happening as well and it probably does depend on the clan they meet.
I think the rules fit well enough for the clans
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 14:25:55 GMT -5
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Post by lazy penguin on Mar 17, 2020 15:08:33 GMT -5
i think they could work for sure! did you want the lowerclan to be more forested or meadowy? just so i have an idea for what the upper clan would look like. I especially love the waterfall one because it looks really close to what I was imagining for the on on the border it would just need to be closer to the mountain face.
i could post my idea for the clans' history if you think it would help us develop ideas (especially when it comes to cultural ideals like isolationism and such)?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 15:29:06 GMT -5
Here are these too if they work better I like the idea of the lower camp being in foresty area with a meadow Seeing the history would be great! Can see how this all happened and what they were like before xD
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