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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 4:50:55 GMT -5
For me it’s the claim that Nightheart’s writing makes him a misogynist. Every time I see that I have to clamp a pillow till I calm down Even worse as soon as I pointed out it’s mistake, I got hated on… What claims make you want to quit the fandom?
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 1, 2023 5:16:32 GMT -5
The opinion that Nightheart's writing making him a misogynist isn't that he as a character, as a cat is misogynist, but rather the writing is misogynistic. I mean, every female character around him gets vilified except for the cat he loves, who he crosses the boundaries of but that's never brought up ever again. Seems misogynistic, no?
I just don't like Dovewing haters.
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Post by tollfarok on Dec 1, 2023 5:33:28 GMT -5
Dovewing is a Mary sue Bramblestar is abusive (I am so so so tired of arguing about this) Nightheart is whiny/ungrateful/etc Tawnypelt was selfish for leaving tc/she's a bad sister
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 1, 2023 6:35:53 GMT -5
The Sisters are not sexist
I see this take float around sometimes and just cannot believe my eyes.
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Post by Slightdapple on Dec 1, 2023 8:07:23 GMT -5
I have seen people say that Mapleshade did nothing wrong and didn't deserve the Dark Forest.
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Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Dec 1, 2023 8:33:19 GMT -5
Bramblestar being abusive, Squirrelflight deserves better, Squirrelflight did nothing wrong/is just sassy//is just doing what her heart tells her to do, Bramblestar deserves the Dark Forest (for what??? Because Squirrelflight got upset one time???)
All in all, opinions where Squirrelflight is an absolute angel who deserves the world and where Bramblestar is the devil incarnate who will get thrown into the DF by Firestar himself pisses me off.
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Post by Wolfdawn 𖦹 on Dec 1, 2023 9:36:30 GMT -5
for me, its not really an opinion but the whole Jayfetaher x stick thing ive hated for so long the joke was funny at first but now its just ugh
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Non-binary
flipwish
when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on Dec 1, 2023 10:05:47 GMT -5
i always get a little annoyed with any take that basically argued that a character's morals = whether or not they've broken the incredibly flawed kittycat laws
Also there's enough bad Squirrelflight takes to fill a whole new book I think. I remember when that one spoiler thread mentioned Squilf looking like she wanted to swat Bramblestar or whatever and thinking "Oh, god, this is gonna be misinterpreted forever" and I was right! I didn't want to be right but I was!!!
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Post by iceheart on Dec 1, 2023 10:12:22 GMT -5
That Bumblestripe is a selfish, jealous incel.
He's the farthest from. He's a great character who's been stepped on way too many times by Dovewing and led on by her, and he stopped taking that from her. He's only written badly in Shattered Sky so Tigerheart could swoop in and save the day by saying... you know, the same exact thing Bumblestripe said.
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Post by rabbit on Dec 1, 2023 11:01:09 GMT -5
I can’t really think of any opinion that angers me. Maybe other people making bad assumptions about another person’s life/character for their takes on whatever fictional crap they are into. Or worse, they thing they deserve to be doxed and harmed over it. But that is a more in general thing and not just a Warriors thing.
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Post by کیوان on Dec 1, 2023 11:01:36 GMT -5
I have seen someone unironically call Squirrelflight an angel. Y’all aren’t even exaggerating.
It also ticks me off when people from fandoms of other fantasy genres take shots at our series. Like, 1) that’s OUR job, thank you very much, and 2) your own series has room for improvement; find your own sheep to shear!
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Heterosexual
Spinestar
Got The Ashfur Tattoo!
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Post by Spinestar on Dec 1, 2023 11:37:08 GMT -5
Firestar sucks because he’s a gary stue or whatever it’s called and he has no flaws (which he clearly does) ^
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Asexual
#A3E4D7
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🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
rdj as doctor doom was not on my bingo card
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Dec 1, 2023 12:06:34 GMT -5
Bramblestar was always abusive even in TNP (no, he wasn't, his character was assassinated and recency bias is a thing)
Firestar/Dovewing are Mary Sues. (I once used that argument in grade 7 to get into an amino group despite me not really believing it)
Ferncloud and Snowbird are "baby machines". (If anyone is a baby machine its Clear Sky because any she-cat he touches has his babies/ns)
Mapleshade did nothing wrong and deserved StarClan.
Appledusk deserves the Dark Forest.
Squirrelflight never does wrong. (I understand this take, though, but one of the points as a character that I love about her is that although she has the right intentions, her hot-headedness and strong opinions make her sometimes go about them the wrong way, which is 100% realistic)
When someone says they want female villains but immediately turn any female villain into a hero, or deny any theories that further cement the character as a villain, (Examples: people loved Curlfeather being bad, but as soon as the theory of Curlfeather being somewhat responsible for Jayclaw's death to use Frostpaw came to be, they said that is is misogynistic despite it being in character. Mapleshade as above. I've seen people complain about Fury despite her being a FEMALE BLOODCLAN LEADEER WHICH IS AWESOME.)
Not a take per se, but when people use headcanon pronouns/genders when talking about the source material, especially to those who are unaware of that headcanon. There's nothing wrong with these headcanons, I personally have quite a bit and love them. But when people are talking about characters in the context of canon text, they use their headcanons without any context (For example, when discussing their opinions on an unrelated topic such as who Crowfeather's mate should be, they may use they/them or she/her pronouns for Crowfeather despite this being seperate from their hcs.) Idk how to explain it well but it breaks my brain, even if I do share the headcanon. It just confuses me a lot since most people I talk to keep canon discussions and headcanons seperate.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Dec 1, 2023 13:24:49 GMT -5
Luckily these ones aren’t as common and/or just make me chuckle at how obsurd they are 1. Rainflower was justified in her treatment of Crookedkit because it’s animal nature(?) 2. Rootspring should go to the dark forest for allowing cross clan relationships 3. Fringewhisker is actually just using Spireclaw 4. Queens are useless
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Asexual
#A3E4D7
Name Colour
🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
rdj as doctor doom was not on my bingo card
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Dec 1, 2023 18:12:18 GMT -5
Luckily these ones aren’t as common and/or just make me chuckle at how obsurd they are 1. Rainflower was justified in her treatment of Crookedkit because it’s animal nature(?) 2. Rootspring should go to the dark forest for allowing cross clan relationships 3. Fringewhisker is actually just using Spireclaw 4. Queens are useless ive never seen the root or fringe one and now i need a minute
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Dec 1, 2023 18:15:57 GMT -5
I hate the take that Brambleclaw is an irredeemable abusive monster. Its fine for people to not like him, but people acting like he has no positive traits whatsoever annoys me
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Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Dec 1, 2023 18:26:36 GMT -5
I hate the take that Brambleclaw is an irredeemable abusive monster. Its fine for people to not like him, but people acting like he has no positive traits whatsoever annoys me The amount of people I’ve seen say Bramblestar is such a horrible monster and then immediately pair Squirrelflight up with Ashfur is mind boggling. Ashfur can be redeemed but Bramblestar can’t apparently??? Like it’s fanfiction; you believe Ashfur can be good but Bramblestar can’t? It your fanfic bro, try to make him good then?
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Transgender
arkkflip
I LUV SHADOWSIGHT SO SMCUH !!!! YAYSHDIKENF HEZ MY SON !!!!!!! YEYYY !!!!!!!!!!A
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Post by arkkflip on Dec 1, 2023 19:42:28 GMT -5
Hmmm.... I guess it's that Stormtail wasn't a bad father/mate. I saw this once and it just made me feel a little angry (no hate to the person who wrote that opinion)
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 1, 2023 21:10:37 GMT -5
"Reedshine deserves the Dark Forest" is one I HATE. She barely even did anything in the book.
Also, I just hate when people misunderstand characters. Yes, a lot of male characters are misperceived by the fandom and some of them I really like, but I feel like it's mainly female characters that are misperceived. Tons of the fandom are always raving about wanting female villains then very poorly misunderstand them. Y'all clearly aren't ready for a well-written female villain if you couldn't handle Curlfeather.
One thing that I'm not necessarily angry about but confused about is that pretty much everyone hates Thistleclaw and Rainflower - YES they were bad people. You don't have to force yourself to not like their characters? There's no way these cats have that little amount of fans, SOME of y'all gotta be saying this 'cause you think it's morally bad to like them. Coming from someone who doesn't even like those characters that much.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Dec 1, 2023 23:15:47 GMT -5
One thing that I'm not necessarily angry about but confused about is that pretty much everyone hates Thistleclaw and Rainflower - YES they were bad people. You don't have to force yourself to not like their characters? There's no way these cats have that little amount of fans, SOME of y'all gotta be saying this 'cause you think it's morally bad to like them. Coming from someone who doesn't even like those characters that much. Personally, I like Rainflower ONLY because she's a well written narcissistic abuser. She's a horrible cat (person?) but is done so well and makes you hate her because of it. That's good writing imho.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 0:58:26 GMT -5
The opinion that Nightheart's writing making him a misogynist isn't that he as a character, as a cat is misogynist, but rather the writing is misogynistic. I mean, every female character around him gets vilified except for the cat he loves, who he crosses the boundaries of but that's never brought up ever again. Seems misogynistic, no? I just don't like Dovewing haters. Agree, the writing in general is borderline dodgy sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2023 1:01:02 GMT -5
I hate the take that Brambleclaw is an irredeemable abusive monster. Its fine for people to not like him, but people acting like he has no positive traits whatsoever annoys me THIS, I have seen this take so many times, it’s really tiring. I honestly get really riled up when I see this.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 2, 2023 4:08:09 GMT -5
One thing that I'm not necessarily angry about but confused about is that pretty much everyone hates Thistleclaw and Rainflower - YES they were bad people. You don't have to force yourself to not like their characters? There's no way these cats have that little amount of fans, SOME of y'all gotta be saying this 'cause you think it's morally bad to like them. Coming from someone who doesn't even like those characters that much. Personally, I like Rainflower ONLY because she's a well written narcissistic abuser. She's a horrible cat (person?) but is done so well and makes you hate her because of it. That's good writing imho. Exactly my point! It's not bad to like those characters.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 2, 2023 10:33:42 GMT -5
Probably the claim that female leaders can’t have kits, as if it’s an in-universe rule. It’s straight up not true. Idk why it makes me so mad but it does.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 2, 2023 10:36:57 GMT -5
wait okay also when there’s a scene that can be interpreted in several different ways, but someone decides their interpretation is the only correct one and threaten to stop reading the series if their headcanon is proven incorrect later
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Transgender
arkkflip
I LUV SHADOWSIGHT SO SMCUH !!!! YAYSHDIKENF HEZ MY SON !!!!!!! YEYYY !!!!!!!!!!A
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Post by arkkflip on Dec 2, 2023 11:25:46 GMT -5
That Twigbranch should have kits with Finleap. Which is just... ugh...
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Dec 2, 2023 11:50:45 GMT -5
That Twigbranch should have kits with Finleap. Which is just... ugh... That reminds me of the opinion that “she owes him kits because he switched clans for her” or that she was “leading him on” which always just
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