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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:21:44 GMT -5
I really like the book...though I hate Onestar even more now. I mean...how exactly is it ShadowClan's fault Furzepelt died?!
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Aside from hating Onestar, I also feel really bad for Dawnpelt.
Cats that died: Littlecloud, Furzepelt, Kinkfur, Wasptail and Crowfrost. We also get confirmation that Dewkit, Kinkfur's daughter, is also dead. Crowfrost mentioned her after Kinkfur died from her sickness. It's also kind of Onestar's fault Kinkfur, Wasptail and Crowfrost died...the only cure was on the moor and Onestar refused to let them have any in revenge for Furzepelt's death. The two ShadowClan cats I'm not sure are dead or alive are Slatekit and Beenose.
Slatekit vanished completely after chapter 2. Who knows what happened to him. He is never mentioned again. And Beenose caught the same sickness that Kinkfur, Wasptail and Crowfrost and was never mentioned again. It's also notable to mention that she wasn't with ShC when she caught it. She was living with the rogues.
Alderpaw becomes Alderheart in the very last chapter. Sparkpaw becomes Sparkpelt in chapter 7. Though Graystripe thought Bramblestar would have named her Sparkfire to keep Firestar's memory alive. Needlepaw, Sleekpaw, Juniperpaw and Beepaw become Needletail, Sleekwhisker, Juniperclaw and Beenose. They also named themselves. Strikepaw is Strikestone, Yarrowpaw is Yarrowleaf, Shadepaw is Shadepelt and Foxpaw is Foxnose. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 1, 2016 17:24:30 GMT -5
Thanks, Faith!  Does anyone become an apprentice in this book besides Lilyheart's kits? Anymore FernxIvy moments? And Crowfrost dies, huh? Poor Dawnpelt. Does it say who the new deputy is? |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Sept 1, 2016 17:35:48 GMT -5
And Crowfrost dies, huh? Poor Dawnpelt. Does it say who the new deputy is? Obviously it's Tawnypelt since she was called the deputy in the sneak peak. Jk Who knows maybe it's Needletail |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:37:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Faith! Does anyone become an apprentice in this book? Anymore FernxIvy moments? Twigpaw and Violetpaw both become apprentices. Twigpaw's mentor is Ivypool and Violetpaw's mentor is Dawnpelt. RiverClan is shown with two new apprentices in the second to last chapter at the Gathering. No clue who the parents are, but these two are stated to be littermates. Wavepaw and Cypresspaw. RiverClan also has Nightpaw and Breezepaw. WindClan has Brindlepaw. I didn't see Smokekit. ThunderClan also has Honeypaw, Larkpaw and Leafpaw. And ShadowClan has Birchpaw, Lionpaw, Flowerpaw, Snakepaw and Whorlpaw. Like I said, Slatekit vanished from the story. And Puddlekit is Puddleshine.
Also, is it wrong that I laughed out loud at Whorlpaw and Cypresspaw's names? Lol!
At one point, Twigpaw decides to go look for her mother with Ivypool. Squirrelflight tells Fernsong to go as well. And Alderpaw also goes.
Ivypool and Fernsong do tease each other a little before they leave. Really, there were more hints of NeedlexRain then there were of IvyxFern.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:38:13 GMT -5
And Crowfrost dies, huh? Poor Dawnpelt. Does it say who the new deputy is? Obviously it's Tawnypelt since she was called the deputy in the sneak peak. Jk Who knows maybe it's Needletail It's Tigerheart. |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:39:03 GMT -5
Needletail is now a part of the rogues. And I don't think she has any intentions of leaving Rain.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 1, 2016 17:40:29 GMT -5
Thanks, Faith! Does anyone become an apprentice in this book? Anymore FernxIvy moments? Twigpaw and Violetpaw both become apprentices. Twigpaw's mentor is Ivypool and Violetpaw's mentor is Dawnpelt. RiverClan is shown with two new apprentices in the second to last chapter at the Gathering. No clue who the parents are, but these two are stated to be littermates. Wavepaw and Cypresspaw. RiverClan also has Nightpaw and Breezepaw.ย WindClan has Brindlepaw. I didn't see Smokekit. ThunderClan also has Honeypaw, Larkpaw and Leafpaw. And ShadowClan has Birchpaw, Lionpaw, Flowerpaw, Snakepaw and Whorlpaw. Like I said, Slatekit vanished from the story. And Puddlekit is Puddleshine.
Also, is it wrong that I laughed out loud at Whorlpaw and Cypresspaw's names? Lol!
At one point, Twigpaw decides to go look for her mother with Ivypool. Squirrelflight tells Fernsong to go as well. And Alderpaw also goes.
Ivypool and Fernsong do tease each other a little before they leave. Really, there were more hints of NeedlexRain then there were of IvyxFern.
Interesting. So, who becomes the mentors of Lilyheart's kits? And what sort of hints do we get for NeedlexRain? |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Sept 1, 2016 17:41:53 GMT -5
Obviously it's Tawnypelt since she was called the deputy in the sneak peak. Jk Who knows maybe it's Needletail It's Tigerheart. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! OMG YESSSSSSS! KATE I WILL. HATE YOU FOREVER IF YOU DON'T LET HIM BECOME TIGERSTAR! Well Hate is kind of strong...I'll say firmly dislike. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 1, 2016 17:43:39 GMT -5
Obviously it's Tawnypelt since she was called the deputy in the sneak peak. Jk Who knows maybe it's Needletail It's Tigerheart. Interesting. I was hoping it'd be Tawnypelt, but oh well. ^^ |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Sept 1, 2016 17:46:34 GMT -5
Needletail is now a part of the rogues. And I don't think she has any intentions of leaving Rain. How does she get involved with the rogues? What happened to Leafpool? |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:47:31 GMT -5
Twigpaw and Violetpaw both become apprentices. Twigpaw's mentor is Ivypool and Violetpaw's mentor is Dawnpelt. RiverClan is shown with two new apprentices in the second to last chapter at the Gathering. No clue who the parents are, but these two are stated to be littermates. Wavepaw and Cypresspaw. RiverClan also has Nightpaw and Breezepaw. WindClan has Brindlepaw. I didn't see Smokekit. ThunderClan also has Honeypaw, Larkpaw and Leafpaw. And ShadowClan has Birchpaw, Lionpaw, Flowerpaw, Snakepaw and Whorlpaw. Like I said, Slatekit vanished from the story. And Puddlekit is Puddleshine.
Also, is it wrong that I laughed out loud at Whorlpaw and Cypresspaw's names? Lol!
At one point, Twigpaw decides to go look for her mother with Ivypool. Squirrelflight tells Fernsong to go as well. And Alderpaw also goes.
Ivypool and Fernsong do tease each other a little before they leave. Really, there were more hints of NeedlexRain then there were of IvyxFern.
Interesting. So, who becomes the mentors of Lilyheart's kits? And what sort of hints do we get for NeedlexRain? I have no clue who the mentors are. I feel like Bumblestripe and Rosepetal are two of the mentors. But I don't think it was confirmed. I need to reread that part.
Whenever Needletail saw Rain her gaze would always light up. In chapter 4 when Alderpaw asked Needlepaw where she was after coming to visit the camp, Needlepaw stated that she was in twolegplace. Though Alderpaw could tell she was hiding something. In the very next chapter we find out that she's been meeting with Rain and the other rogues. And this time she decided to bring Sleekpaw and Violetkit with her. When she and Rain saw each other they looked very happy. The book even implied that they became mates in the end. That's what Violetpaw believed, as they were usually together. And Needletail seemed jealous when Rain was hunting with Sleekwhisker.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:48:55 GMT -5
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! OMG YESSSSSSS! KATE I WILL. HATE YOU FOREVER IF YOU DON'T LET HIM BECOME TIGERSTAR! Well Hate is kind of strong...I'll say firmly dislike. Lol! Another Tigerstar! At least this one will be good. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 17:49:36 GMT -5
Obviously it's Tawnypelt since she was called the deputy in the sneak peak. Jk Who knows maybe it's Needletail It's Tigerheart. Sorry, deleted the pic xD it was a bit silly Seriously tho, that really caught me off guard. |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:53:11 GMT -5
Interesting. I was hoping it'd be Tawnypelt, but oh well. ^^ Yeah, I wanted Tawnypelt as well. Oh, well. Speaking of which, Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart are now in ThunderClan. And for some reason, Ivypool decided to tell Twigpaw that Tigerheart and Dovewing used to have feelings for one another. (Yes, Twigpaw is a POV character)
I think Alderheart is going to catch on before long as well. This is what it stated in last chapter.
He always seemed to have one eye on the blue-eyed she-cat.
Used to have feelings? Yeah right. Though I can see why Ivypool doesn't like having him there.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 1, 2016 17:57:04 GMT -5
Interesting. I was hoping it'd be Tawnypelt, but oh well. ^^ Yeah, I wanted Tawnypelt as well. Oh, well. Speaking of which, Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart are now in ThunderClan. And for some reason, Ivypool decided to tell Twigpaw that Tigerheart and Dovewing used to have feelings for one another. (Yes, Twigpaw is a POV character)
I think Alderheart is going to catch on before long as well. This is what it stated in last chapter.
He always seemed to have one eye on the blue-eyed she-cat.
Used to have feelings? Yeah right. Though I can see why Ivypool doesn't like having him there.
Really, Ivypool! Why!? Interesting how Twigpaw gets a PoV, though. Anyone else besides her, Violetpaw, and Alderheart get a PoV? Also, anymore hints of potential ships? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 17:58:47 GMT -5
I wonder if Ivypool assumed the worst and thought that, if Tigerheart was staying in ThunderClan from now on, thought there was no reason to keep it a secret anymore :/
Still though, Dovewing has finally escaped all the drama and popularity surrounding her, she doesn't need another scandle and even more gossiping chasing her tail.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 17:59:58 GMT -5
Needletail is now a part of the rogues. And I don't think she has any intentions of leaving Rain. How does she get involved with the rogues? What happened to Leafpool? Leafpool goes back to ThunderClan after giving Puddleshine his full name.
I have no clue for how long it's been going on, but chapter 4 implied she had meeting with them for a while. This is from chapter 10:
"I'm sick of living in a Clan that only cares about peace. The rogues would have made us strong. But if you don't want them to join us, I'm going to join them!"
Sleekpaw and Juniperpaw go with her. And they take Violetkit with them. Though she runs off to join ShadowClan again. At the end of the book, she's with the rogues once more.
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Post by Ligerfrost on Sept 1, 2016 18:01:24 GMT -5
Tigerheart is deputy...well I guess I can see why Tawnypelt probably wasn't chosen... If for no other reason her age is a big one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 18:01:52 GMT -5
So in general, where are most of the ShadowClan cats? Have they joined ThunderClan with Rowanstar or are most of them loners or with Darktail's rogues?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 18:03:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I wanted Tawnypelt as well. Oh, well. Speaking of which, Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart are now in ThunderClan. And for some reason, Ivypool decided to tell Twigpaw that Tigerheart and Dovewing used to have feelings for one another. (Yes, Twigpaw is a POV character)
I think Alderheart is going to catch on before long as well. This is what it stated in last chapter.
He always seemed to have one eye on the blue-eyed she-cat.
Used to have feelings? Yeah right. Though I can see why Ivypool doesn't like having him there.
Really, Ivypool! Why!? Interesting how Twigpaw gets a PoV, though. Anyone else besides her, Violetpaw, and Alderheart get a PoV? Also, anymore hints of potential ships? Nope, just Alderheart, Violetpaw and Twigpaw. I have no clue why she got Ivypool. I wanted her to get Dovewing.
Nope. Just some IvyxFern (not a lot) and NeedlexRain. Though it's also hinted that Tigerheart still has feelings for Dovewing. He seemed jealous when Dovewing was talking to Bumblestripe.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 18:04:21 GMT -5
What happened to Spiderleg?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 1, 2016 18:06:32 GMT -5
What happened to Spiderleg? He died of greencough. |
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Post by Woofzie on Sept 1, 2016 18:07:29 GMT -5
Who gives Alderpaw's full name? Jayfeather or Leafpool? How did they cope without Leafpool?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 18:07:35 GMT -5
So in general, where are most of the ShadowClan cats? Have they joined ThunderClan with Rowanstar or are most of them loners or with Darktail's rogues? This is why I feel really bad for Dawnpelt. Her mate died and it was either join her parents and brother, or join her kits. Both Sleekwhisker and Juniperclaw managed to convince her and Strikestone to stay with them.
The rest of ShadowClan is still in their territory as well. Only Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart left. One of the ShC cats (I don't remember who at the moment) told them if they go to the gathering, they can never come back.
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Post by Ligerfrost on Sept 1, 2016 18:08:01 GMT -5
What happened to Spiderleg? He died during the To skip between Bramblestar's Storm and The Apprentice Quest. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 1, 2016 18:08:42 GMT -5
Shame Needletail ends up joining the enemy, but it does make her character more interesting. Why does she end up meeting with them, though?
Also, how does the book end?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 1, 2016 18:09:15 GMT -5
Who gives Alderpaw's full name? Jayfeather or Leafpool? How did they cope without Leafpool? Jayfeather did. And they managed just fine without Leafpool. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 18:09:39 GMT -5
What happened to Spiderleg? He died of greencough. :'( |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 18:12:41 GMT -5
So in general, where are most of the ShadowClan cats? Have they joined ThunderClan with Rowanstar or are most of them loners or with Darktail's rogues? This is why I feel really bad for Dawnpelt. Her mate died and it was either join her parents and brother, or join her kits. Both Sleekwhisker and Juniperclaw managed to convince her and Strikestone to stay with them.
The rest of ShadowClan is still in their territory as well. Only Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart left. One of the ShC cats (I don't remember who at the moment) told them if they go to the gathering, they can never come back.
Oh ok, so Dark Tail took over basically all of ShadowClan and is now ruling them in their territory? And what do they mean by the whole gathering thing? Have ShC basically disowned Rowanstar and Tigerheart and are now loyal to Darktail? And blw thank you for answering our questions C: |
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