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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:24:45 GMT -5
I heard that this is the book that made everyone rage against Tigerheartstar.
Right now, I like him, I'm sorry, but I don't think he's done anything super immoral yet, but who knows, maybe this book will change my opinion?
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Post by mymerlincat on Nov 28, 2019 17:26:56 GMT -5
I didn’t mind the book itself, but holy crap did everyone act like a complete idiot in it
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 17:29:09 GMT -5
I loved that book. The clans are pretty antagonistic, though. But the Sisters were no better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:29:48 GMT -5
I didn’t mind the book itself, but holy crap did everyone act like a complete idiot in it That's what I heard. The worst thing I heard, is that Harestar was portrayed badly in it, but I still don't think he'll ever be as bad as that one cat who was leader before him. Like, he'd have to do some SERIOUSLY bad crap to reach his level |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:30:39 GMT -5
I loved that book. The clans are pretty antagonistic, though. But the Sisters were no better. They remind me of the tribe, but less nice, so far. I don't like how they're holding Leafstar and Squirrelflight hostage |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 17:36:08 GMT -5
I loved that book. The clans are pretty antagonistic, though. But the Sisters were no better. They remind me of the tribe, but less nice, so far. I don't like how they're holding Leafstar and Squirrelflight hostage I didn't like that, either. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:37:44 GMT -5
They remind me of the tribe, but less nice, so far. I don't like how they're holding Leafstar and Squirrelflight hostage I didn't like that, either. I mean, I understand that they're afraid that they might summon their clans to come drive them out, but they're living beings |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 17:40:47 GMT -5
I didn't like that, either. I mean, I understand that they're afraid that they might summon their clans to come drive them out, but they're living beings True. I felt pretty bad for Squirrelflight and Leafstar. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:42:36 GMT -5
I mean, I understand that they're afraid that they might summon their clans to come drive them out, but they're living beings True. I felt pretty bad for Squirrelflight and Leafstar. Me too, I just read the part where Leafstar tries to escape, and Snow (is that her name? I forgot) attacks her I also feel really bad for the males in that group |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 17:49:05 GMT -5
True. I felt pretty bad for Squirrelflight and Leafstar. Me too, I just read the part where Leafstar tries to escape, and Snow (is that her name? I forgot) attacks her I also feel really bad for the males in that group Yes, it was Snow who attacked her. Same. It's just...sad that the males have to go after a certain amount of time. ): |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 17:53:13 GMT -5
Me too, I just read the part where Leafstar tries to escape, and Snow (is that her name? I forgot) attacks her I also feel really bad for the males in that group Yes, it was Snow who attacked her. Same. It's just...sad that the males have to go after a certain amount of time. ): I know  isn't it really young too? Like, only 6 moons old? |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 18:03:00 GMT -5
Yes, it was Snow who attacked her. Same. It's just...sad that the males have to go after a certain amount of time. ): I know isn't it really young too? Like, only 6 moons old? I think so. ): It's too young. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 18:07:26 GMT -5
I know isn't it really young too? Like, only 6 moons old? I think so. ): It's too young. I agree, I at least hope they're able to hunt and stuff by then |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 18:09:14 GMT -5
I think so. ): It's too young. I agree, I at least hope they're able to hunt and stuff by then Same. And if not, they could always find a cat to teach them, or become a kittypet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 18:15:13 GMT -5
I agree, I at least hope they're able to hunt and stuff by then Same. And if not, they could always find a cat to teach them, or become a kittypet. That's true That'd be interesting if one joined the clans, but from the way the clans treat non-clan cats, I'm not sure if that'd be the best thing for them |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 18:17:08 GMT -5
Same. And if not, they could always find a cat to teach them, or become a kittypet. That's true That'd be interesting if one joined the clans, but from the way the clans treat non-clan cats, I'm not sure if that'd be the best thing for them Yeah, the clans are mostly hostile to outsiders, so they're better off finding somewhere else to live and hunt. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 18:27:24 GMT -5
That's true That'd be interesting if one joined the clans, but from the way the clans treat non-clan cats, I'm not sure if that'd be the best thing for them Yeah, the clans are mostly hostile to outsiders, so they're better off finding somewhere else to live and hunt. That's true, I hope they stick together after being exiled |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 18:35:15 GMT -5
Yeah, the clans are mostly hostile to outsiders, so they're better off finding somewhere else to live and hunt. That's true, I hope they stick together after being exiled Yeah. It'll be better than being alone. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 18:46:48 GMT -5
That's true, I hope they stick together after being exiled Yeah. It'll be better than being alone. I was hoping that Moonlight's son would have stayed in SkyClan, but judging from The Silent Thaw and Lost Stars, it doesn't look like that happened. |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 28, 2019 18:52:15 GMT -5
Yeah. It'll be better than being alone. I was hoping that Moonlight's son would have stayed in SkyClan, but judging from The Silent Thaw and Lost Stars, it doesn't look like that happened. I guess not. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 13:12:00 GMT -5
I'm on chapter 9, and I'm reallllly starting to dislike Thornclaw and Birchfall, which is a bit sad, because in the Power of Three, Birchfall was actually in my top five list of favorite characters.
I just learned that Sparkpelt was born first in her litter, which is kind of funny, because Hollyleaf was born first, and out of Sparkpelt's kits, Finchpaw was born first.
It seems like the she-cats in Firestar's line are just eager to see the world first lol.
It makes me wonder who was born first out of Ambernoon, Snowbush, and Dewnose
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Post by *Faith* on Nov 29, 2019 15:40:58 GMT -5
I just learned that Sparkpelt was born first in her litter, which is kind of funny, because Hollyleaf was born first, and out of Sparkpelt's kits, Finchpaw was born first. Wait, Sparkpelt was born first? Cool! I always like learning this information. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 15:46:19 GMT -5
I just learned that Sparkpelt was born first in her litter, which is kind of funny, because Hollyleaf was born first, and out of Sparkpelt's kits, Finchpaw was born first. Wait, Sparkpelt was born first? Cool! I always like learning this information. Yeah  It said She purred, the memory washing away her fear. “Can you imagine his surprise when he arrived to find you already born and Alderheart on the way? Soo, I just remembered that they had two other siblings, so Alderheart is actually the second born, not the last born. I'm guessing Juniperkit was the last born, since he survived the shortest amount of time, I think. |
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Post by sylveon on Nov 29, 2019 22:01:34 GMT -5
I didn't like that, either. I mean, I understand that they're afraid that they might summon their clans to come drive them out, but they're living beings I felt sympathetic towards the Sisters honestly because that's exactly what happened when Leaf and Squirrel went home. Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if they hadn't held them captive in the first place so ThunderClan *might* be slightly friendlier towards them. I do think the sisters are an interesting group of cats but I do think some things should have been changed about them. All and all, I still feel the sisters were in the right. They were defending land they were on first and an unborn litter of kits, the clans were just bullying them and being greedy to solve their own problems. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 29, 2019 22:03:31 GMT -5
I liked the book tbh, but I feel like I'm more annoyed by the fandom's reaction to it tbh. Too much exaggeration.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:20:08 GMT -5
sylveonThat is true ❅Maplefrost❅Yeah, Bramblestar doesn't seem to be as abusive as I heard people say he is. He's right to be upset, he has a whole clan to look after, not just Squirrelflight's feelings, and he never said he never wanted to have kits, or that he'd get on or find a new mate, Squirrelflight seems to be just letting her insecurities get in the way. I'm not saying he's a saint or anything, I just don't think he's that bad. The only time he's irritated me so far in this book, is him refusing to treat Sunrise, but in his mind, he has a really good reason for doing it, he wants the clans to be united, and at least he isn't been outright hostile like Thornclaw and Blossomfall. Also, Tigerstar...Tigerstar hasn't even APPEARED yet, and he's already being painted as a villain in this book.
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Post by vectoring34 on Nov 29, 2019 22:34:27 GMT -5
sylveon That is true ❅Maplefrost❅ Yeah, Bramblestar doesn't seem to be as abusive as I heard people say he is. He's right to be upset, he has a whole clan to look after, not just Squirrelflight's feelings, and he never said he never wanted to have kits, or that he'd get on or find a new mate, Squirrelflight seems to be just letting her insecurities get in the way. I'm not saying he's a saint or anything, I just don't think he's that bad. The only time he's irritated me so far in this book, is him refusing to treat Sunrise, but in his mind, he has a really good reason for doing it, he wants the clans to be united, and at least he isn't been outright hostile like Thornclaw and Blossomfall. Also, Tigerstar...Tigerstar hasn't even APPEARED yet, and he's already being painted as a villain in this book. Bramblestar isn't morally awful, he's just weak and unable to wield the power of a leader effectively. The fact that Tigerstar is living rent-free in his mind is an indictment of him as a leader. If he could make decisions on his own instead of faffing about, wringing his paws, and generally doing nothing, I think there'd be a little more respect for him. As is though, he sits on a fence so much that he's practically skewered. Tigerstar deserves every single bit of hate he gets quite frankly in upcoming chapters. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:37:35 GMT -5
sylveon That is true ❅Maplefrost❅ Yeah, Bramblestar doesn't seem to be as abusive as I heard people say he is. He's right to be upset, he has a whole clan to look after, not just Squirrelflight's feelings, and he never said he never wanted to have kits, or that he'd get on or find a new mate, Squirrelflight seems to be just letting her insecurities get in the way. I'm not saying he's a saint or anything, I just don't think he's that bad. The only time he's irritated me so far in this book, is him refusing to treat Sunrise, but in his mind, he has a really good reason for doing it, he wants the clans to be united, and at least he isn't been outright hostile like Thornclaw and Blossomfall. Also, Tigerstar...Tigerstar hasn't even APPEARED yet, and he's already being painted as a villain in this book. Bramblestar isn't morally awful, he's just weak and unable to wield the power of a leader effectively. The fact that Tigerstar is living rent-free in his mind is an indictment of him as a leader. If he could make decisions on his own instead of faffing about, wringing his paws, and generally doing nothing, I think there'd be a little more respect for him. As is though, he sits on a fence so much that he's practically skewered. Tigerstar deserves every single bit of hate he gets quite frankly in upcoming chapters. While I don't think he should have even been deputy in the first place, he hasn't done a bad job so far, he got his clan through the darkest of times, and he's the one who made the rule, that clans should stick together in times of need. However, it is a bit sad, how he's so afraid of what his little nephew will do, that he won't help a dying cat. |
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Post by vectoring34 on Nov 29, 2019 22:49:24 GMT -5
Bramblestar isn't morally awful, he's just weak and unable to wield the power of a leader effectively. The fact that Tigerstar is living rent-free in his mind is an indictment of him as a leader. If he could make decisions on his own instead of faffing about, wringing his paws, and generally doing nothing, I think there'd be a little more respect for him. As is though, he sits on a fence so much that he's practically skewered. Tigerstar deserves every single bit of hate he gets quite frankly in upcoming chapters. While I don't think he should have even been deputy in the first place, he hasn't done a bad job so far, he got his clan through the darkest of times, and he's the one who made the rule, that clans should stick together in times of need. However, it is a bit sad, how he's so afraid of what his little nephew will do, that he won't help a dying cat. That rule has been an albatross hanging around his neck because of the way he's interpreted it. Bramblestar seems to interpret it as a clan demanding anything meaning that he must cede to them immediately. He did it with Violetkit and in this book he's constantly paralyzed by indecision because of it too. He has a whole of one good leadership moment in the entire book, the rest is classic overpromotioned intern behavior. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:55:17 GMT -5
While I don't think he should have even been deputy in the first place, he hasn't done a bad job so far, he got his clan through the darkest of times, and he's the one who made the rule, that clans should stick together in times of need. However, it is a bit sad, how he's so afraid of what his little nephew will do, that he won't help a dying cat. That rule has been an albatross hanging around his neck because of the way he's interpreted it. Bramblestar seems to interpret it as a clan demanding anything meaning that he must cede to them immediately. He did it with Violetkit and in this book he's constantly paralyzed by indecision because of it too. He has a whole of one good leadership moment in the entire book, the rest is classic overpromotioned intern behavior. Oh, I didn't think about that. I wonder if he's afraid of getting under anyone's skin, because he's afraid that they're going to say he's like his father? I mean, I doubt it, but yeah. I think he might still be trying to live up to Firestar's legacy, or maybe he just doesn't have enough experience. |
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isn't it really young too? Like, only 6 moons old?
