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Warrior Fanatic
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Nov 29, 2019 23:43:37 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings on this SE, though it could certainly be worse. As for Bramblestar's behavior, I absolutely hated it and his treatment towards Squirrelflight was simply horrid. Even Sparkpelt points out how badly he's been acting at one point (even if she was upset at the time). To me, he came off as harsher than what was necessary, and I don't blame anyone for thinking he was abusive.
Point is, this book made me absolutely hate BramblexSquirrel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 0:04:01 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings on this SE, though it could certainly be worse. As for Bramblestar's behavior, I absolutely hated it and his treatment towards Squirrelflight was simply horrid. Even Sparkpelt points out how badly he's been acting at one point (even if she was upset at the time). To me, he came off as harsher than what was necessary, and I don't blame anyone for thinking he was abusive. Point is, this book made me absolutely hate BramblexSquirrel. Yeah, I don't like that pairing much either, then again, I never really did. They always seem to be fighting about something in every single series, and it always almost destroys their relationship, and then they get back together, and love each other for like two weeks, until they start fighting again. Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit, but they fight way more than any couple I've seen in the series, only to get back together again. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 30, 2019 1:45:30 GMT -5
I think this is probably why he relies so heavily on Squirrelflight as his deputy because it's been pointed out in BrS as well. It feels like Bramble lost most of his confidence once he finally took the reins and became a leader. But with Squirrelfight's advise, and she gives good advice most of the time, he's able to pretty much go about things in a more morally effective manner. However, then you have scenarios where Squirrelflight does her own thing, and then this causes conflict between them, and then Bramble becomes pretty much...incompetent I want to say? I don't think he's the worst leader, in fact, he's probably done better than most, but I think his choice of deputy was a bad choice. Not saying Sqirrelflight is a bad deputy, just that the conflict between their relationships really don't do well politically. Squirrelflight's behavior in SH is so off the wall it's kinda baffling for me to read about, but it feels like the fandom paints Bramble as the bad guy. Even though Squirrel has good ideas it doesn't change that she undermined Bramble several times when he was the only leader standing up for SkyClan (sadly). Then her woes about dying and Bramble discarding her and moving on are all assumptions. And it doesn't help that Bramble isn't ready for kits again and then he caves to the idea during their argument, but at least she sees that it's not fair to him. I think the worst thing she did was sneak out of camp, like an apprentice, went behind his back to SkyClan, traveled to unknown dangerous land, got captured and Leafstar got injured, and then a whole fight happened with the Sisters later on too. I feel that a lot of things could have been avoided if Squirrel was more patient and if the other clans didn't act like such...imbeciles. Also, is anyone really surprised by them not healing Sunrise immediately? They had issues with rogues, who also feigned innocence and then betrayed cats further. Darktail's actions affected all the clans, and cats aren't going to be so quick to forget that. On top of that Sunrise was from a group of cats who held their deputy prisoner for several days and also injured another clan's leader. I feel like that's a justifiable reason to be cautious. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 7:11:43 GMT -5
I think this is probably why he relies so heavily on Squirrelflight as his deputy because it's been pointed out in BrS as well. It feels like Bramble lost most of his confidence once he finally took the reins and became a leader. But with Squirrelfight's advise, and she gives good advice most of the time, he's able to pretty much go about things in a more morally effective manner. However, then you have scenarios where Squirrelflight does her own thing, and then this causes conflict between them, and then Bramble becomes pretty much...incompetent I want to say? I don't think he's the worst leader, in fact, he's probably done better than most, but I think his choice of deputy was a bad choice. Not saying Sqirrelflight is a bad deputy, just that the conflict between their relationships really don't do well politically. Squirrelflight's behavior in SH is so off the wall it's kinda baffling for me to read about, but it feels like the fandom paints Bramble as the bad guy. Even though Squirrel has good ideas it doesn't change that she undermined Bramble several times when he was the only leader standing up for SkyClan (sadly). Then her woes about dying and Bramble discarding her and moving on are all assumptions. And it doesn't help that Bramble isn't ready for kits again and then he caves to the idea during their argument, but at least she sees that it's not fair to him. I think the worst thing she did was sneak out of camp, like an apprentice, went behind his back to SkyClan, traveled to unknown dangerous land, got captured and Leafstar got injured, and then a whole fight happened with the Sisters later on too. I feel that a lot of things could have been avoided if Squirrel was more patient and if the other clans didn't act like such...imbeciles. Also, is anyone really surprised by them not healing Sunrise immediately? They had issues with rogues, who also feigned innocence and then betrayed cats further. Darktail's actions affected all the clans, and cats aren't going to be so quick to forget that. On top of that Sunrise was from a group of cats who held their deputy prisoner for several days and also injured another clan's leader. I feel like that's a justifiable reason to be cautious. I really liked Bramblestar in the scene where he stood up for SkyClan. He honestly doesn't seem like he has a bad heart or anything. I think that the issue with him, and Squirrelflight is their priorities, she seems to prioritize their relationship over the clan, and he seems to prioritize the clan over their relationship. Neither of which are bad, but they have like fifty other cats to think about, not just themselves. Their relationship would probably be a lot stronger if one of them wasn't leader, or one of them wasn't deputy, or if neither of them were in a position of power. A lot of people will probably disagree with me, but I think they're both a little too immature to lead ThunderClan, especially when it comes to their relationship spats. About Sunrise... I never really thought about that, I was just more focused on the fact that Sunrise is a living, breathing, cat. It seems to be easy for me to feel sympathy for some of the characters in the series, who I honestly shouldn't feel sympathy for. I felt bad for Sol when everyone was accusing him of killing Ashfur, and holding him prisoner, even though he didn't do it. Though, I could understand why they thought he did. I also felt bad for Blackstar, when after everyone came back from the beaver trip, they refused to come in and share prey with him. I'm also shocked that it's ThunderClan, they're the nice guys who try to help out everyone, even if they don't appreciate it. I would expect this kind of thing from WindClan, but not ThunderClan. Though, I suppose everyone has a breaking point. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 21:14:22 GMT -5
I wanted to slap every cat in that. There were simple solutions, but no. They had to make it complicated. That was one of my least favorite warrior books.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 22:25:03 GMT -5
I wanted to slap every cat in that. There were simple solutions, but no. They had to make it complicated. That was one of my least favorite warrior books. I'm on the part where Tigerheartstar, Harestar, and Mistystar are wanting to drive them out. Which I understand completely. At this point, they don't know one of them is expecting kits, all they know, is that they caused permanent damage to one of their own. To make it seem even worse, it happened to Tigerstar's nephew, and their family has been shown to be extremely close, so I understand 100% why he's angry. |
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Dec 3, 2019 9:32:09 GMT -5
This whole book was a mess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:43:27 GMT -5
This whole book was a mess. Yes, that is a shorter way to put it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 18:34:33 GMT -5
I'm getting a little annoyed at all the kits this, kits that.
Like EVERY single scene, Squirrelflight thinks about kits, it's almost as frustrating as Hollyleaf and the Warrior Code.
I understand that she's an old cat, and what more kits, but does it really have to be mentioned every single scene?
I know a lot of people hate Bramblestar in this book, but so far, I really like him, other than the part with Sunrise, he seems to be one of the nicest most reasonable cats in the book so far.
A lot of things he says make sense.
He's right to put cats he's known his whole life ahead of cats he doesn't even know, cats who held his deputy mate, and the leader of SkyClan hostage, especially after what happened with Darktail.
Right now, I'm on the part where they think ShadowClan poisoned the fresh-kill pile...it was the ghost of Juniperclaw...just kidding.
I'm sad to say, that I'm not as much into this SE as I wish I was.
Though, I do love seeing more of Harestar.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 18:54:41 GMT -5
I'm getting a little annoyed at all the kits this, kits that.
Like EVERY single scene, Squirrelflight thinks about kits, it's almost as frustrating as Hollyleaf and the Warrior Code.
I understand that she's an old cat, and what more kits, but does it really have to be mentioned every single scene?
I know a lot of people hate Bramblestar in this book, but so far, I really like him, other than the part with Sunrise, he seems to be one of the nicest most reasonable cats in the book so far.
A lot of things he says make sense.
He's right to put cats he's known his whole life ahead of cats he doesn't even know, cats who held his deputy mate, and the leader of SkyClan hostage, especially after what happened with Darktail.
Right now, I'm on the part where they think ShadowClan poisoned the fresh-kill pile...it was the ghost of Juniperclaw...just kidding.
I'm sad to say, that I'm not as much into this SE as I wish I was.
Though, I do love seeing more of Harestar.
Yes, as much as Squirrelflight thought about kits, there were worse parts.... I did like Bramblestar in that book tho. He was the only one who had a brain... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 18:56:38 GMT -5
I'm getting a little annoyed at all the kits this, kits that.
Like EVERY single scene, Squirrelflight thinks about kits, it's almost as frustrating as Hollyleaf and the Warrior Code.
I understand that she's an old cat, and what more kits, but does it really have to be mentioned every single scene?
I know a lot of people hate Bramblestar in this book, but so far, I really like him, other than the part with Sunrise, he seems to be one of the nicest most reasonable cats in the book so far.
A lot of things he says make sense.
He's right to put cats he's known his whole life ahead of cats he doesn't even know, cats who held his deputy mate, and the leader of SkyClan hostage, especially after what happened with Darktail.
Right now, I'm on the part where they think ShadowClan poisoned the fresh-kill pile...it was the ghost of Juniperclaw...just kidding.
I'm sad to say, that I'm not as much into this SE as I wish I was.
Though, I do love seeing more of Harestar.
Yes, as much as Squirrelflight thought about kits, there were worse parts.... I did like Bramblestar in that book tho. He was the only one who had a brain... I really like Harestar so far, he reminds me of what Tornear probably would have been, if he was leader. Like, he's not all super buddy buddy with the other clans, but he also doesn't needlessly attack them for no reason. He fiercely looks out for his own, and I respect that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 18:58:46 GMT -5
Yes, as much as Squirrelflight thought about kits, there were worse parts.... I did like Bramblestar in that book tho. He was the only one who had a brain... I really like Harestar so far, he reminds me of what Tornear probably would have been, if he was leader. Like, he's not all super buddy buddy with the other clans, but he also doesn't needlessly attack them for no reason. He fiercely looks out for his own, and I respect that. Yes, but even Harestar could be a bit flakey here and there |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 19:01:28 GMT -5
I really like Harestar so far, he reminds me of what Tornear probably would have been, if he was leader. Like, he's not all super buddy buddy with the other clans, but he also doesn't needlessly attack them for no reason. He fiercely looks out for his own, and I respect that. Yes, but even Harestar could be a bit flakey here and there True, but who isn't? This SE even made Mistystar look antagonistic, and other than the time she stupidly almost let her own son die, because she disapproved of Mothwing's disbelief in StarClan, which makes sense, considering their society, but still.
Other than that, she's been a really kind and understanding warrior, and a great leader. |
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 4, 2019 19:53:43 GMT -5
Here's the thing, though: Bramblestar was being harsher than what was necessary. Yes, he and that Clans have every right not to trust the Sisters, but threatening to demote Squirrelflight and not letting Leafpool heal Sunset unless StarClan sent a sign? Seriously? He was horrible in this book.
As for Squirrelflight, she clearly only wanted more kits to feel young again and so she can have a purpose other than being deputy. This book is basically her experiencing one big midlife crisis.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 20:02:06 GMT -5
Here's the thing, though: Bramblestar was being harsher than what was necessary. Yes, he and that Clans have every right not to trust the Sisters, but threatening to demote Squirrelflight and not letting Leafpool heal Sunset unless StarClan sent a sign? Seriously? He was horrible in this book. As for Squirrelflight, she clearly only wanted more kits to feel young again and so she can have a purpose other than being deputy. This book is basically her experiencing one big midlife crisis. That's a good way to look at it As for Bramblestar, it seems like everyone is all for Squirrelflight without even trying to see his side of things They were both wrong and both right in their own ways |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 20:30:58 GMT -5
They all had their ups and downs in that book
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 4, 2019 22:24:30 GMT -5
Here's the thing, though: Bramblestar was being harsher than what was necessary. Yes, he and that Clans have every right not to trust the Sisters, but threatening to demote Squirrelflight and not letting Leafpool heal Sunset unless StarClan sent a sign? Seriously? He was horrible in this book. As for Squirrelflight, she clearly only wanted more kits to feel young again and so she can have a purpose other than being deputy. This book is basically her experiencing one big midlife crisis. That's a good way to look at it As for Bramblestar, it seems like everyone is all for Squirrelflight without even trying to see his side of things They were both wrong and both right in their own ways But Squirrelflight is not leader. Bramblestar is. His mistakes are so much worse because he's pitching a tantrum like randomly asking Squirrelflight to change up her patrol choosing methods purely because he's upset with her when he should be held to a far better standard. His leadership is also abysmal, as it consists of being Tigerstar's puppet. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 22:26:59 GMT -5
That's a good way to look at it As for Bramblestar, it seems like everyone is all for Squirrelflight without even trying to see his side of things They were both wrong and both right in their own ways But Squirrelflight is not leader. Bramblestar is. His mistakes are so much worse because he's pitching a tantrum like randomly asking Squirrelflight to change up her patrol choosing methods purely because he's upset with her when he should be held to a far better standard. His leadership is also abysmal, as it consists of being Tigerstar's puppet. I'm also talking about their relationship with each other. Everyone is team Squirrelflight, when she hasn't been perfect relationship wise either |
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 4, 2019 22:33:53 GMT -5
But Squirrelflight is not leader. Bramblestar is. His mistakes are so much worse because he's pitching a tantrum like randomly asking Squirrelflight to change up her patrol choosing methods purely because he's upset with her when he should be held to a far better standard. His leadership is also abysmal, as it consists of being Tigerstar's puppet. I'm also talking about their relationship with each other. Everyone is team Squirrelflight, when she hasn't been perfect relationship wise either Except no one is saying Squirrelflight is necessarily right, just that Bramblestar's own actions were worse, especially since he's a leader and is therefore in a higher position than her. There's a difference. Just because Squirrelflight has her own problems to sort out doesn't make Bramblestar any better. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 22:38:04 GMT -5
I'm also talking about their relationship with each other. Everyone is team Squirrelflight, when she hasn't been perfect relationship wise either Except no one is saying Squirrelflight is necessarily right, just that Bramblestar's own actions were worse, especially since he's a leader and is therefore in a higher position than her. There's a difference. Just because Squirrelflight has her own problems to sort out doesn't make Bramblestar any better. Well, I think that people are giving him way too much hate, he's just trying to do what's best for the clans, he doesn't want to cause any rifts with the other clans, and he doesn't want SkyClan to have to move again either. He's right not to trust a group of strange cats he doesn't even know, over cats he's known basically their whole lives. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 22:46:03 GMT -5
I feel bad for Daisy in the scene where Sparkpelt, Squirrelflight, and Bramblestar were arguing.
She must have felt sooo awkward just standing there during all of that.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 4, 2019 23:23:17 GMT -5
Imo, I'm glad Bramble put his foot(paw?) down against Squirrelflight. Her insubordination should NOT get a pass just because they're mates and closer than the average Leader/Deputy should be. She undermined his choices, went behind his back, and got another leader wounded while being held, hostage. Her behavior, sneaking out and breaking the rules, were akin to that of an apprentice. She's lucky she got off so easy in the first place. And this is coming from someone that absolutely loves Squirrelflight, but if anyone was throwing a tantrum in this book, it was her. Between the kit woes and constant talking of them, and defying her own leader and getting into trouble, it was almost unbearable to read about from her perspective. Her behavior came off as utterly embarrassing at some points, and only made the relationship between her and Bramble worse. She expects to be given this and that, or expects everything to go hunky dory, when not everything is that easy. Bramble is right to prioritize the clan an be cautious. Squirrel needs to stop letting her own personal morals and beliefs get in the way of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 23:56:17 GMT -5
Imo, I'm glad Bramble put his foot(paw?) down against Squirrelflight. Her insubordination should NOT get a pass just because they're mates and closer than the average Leader/Deputy should be. She undermined his choices, went behind his back, and got another leader wounded while being held, hostage. Her behavior, sneaking out and breaking the rules, were akin to that of an apprentice. She's lucky she got off so easy in the first place. And this is coming from someone that absolutely loves Squirrelflight, but if anyone was throwing a tantrum in this book, it was her. Between the kit woes and constant talking of them, and defying her own leader and getting into trouble, it was almost unbearable to read about from her perspective. Her behavior came off as utterly embarrassing at some points, and only made the relationship between her and Bramble worse. She expects to be given this and that, or expects everything to go hunky dory, when not everything is that easy. Bramble is right to prioritize the clan an be cautious. Squirrel needs to stop letting her own personal morals and beliefs get in the way of that. My thoughts exactly! I'm only on chapter 15, and Idk if I can go on reading, because the POV character is annoying me more than anything else that has happened in this book pretty much. It took me over a month to read The Power of Three, because I could not get into Jayfeather and Hollyleaf's chapters |
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 5, 2019 0:25:02 GMT -5
Imo, I'm glad Bramble put his foot(paw?) down against Squirrelflight. Her insubordination should NOT get a pass just because they're mates and closer than the average Leader/Deputy should be. She undermined his choices, went behind his back, and got another leader wounded while being held, hostage. Her behavior, sneaking out and breaking the rules, were akin to that of an apprentice. She's lucky she got off so easy in the first place. And this is coming from someone that absolutely loves Squirrelflight, but if anyone was throwing a tantrum in this book, it was her. Between the kit woes and constant talking of them, and defying her own leader and getting into trouble, it was almost unbearable to read about from her perspective. Her behavior came off as utterly embarrassing at some points, and only made the relationship between her and Bramble worse. She expects to be given this and that, or expects everything to go hunky dory, when not everything is that easy. Bramble is right to prioritize the clan an be cautious. Squirrel needs to stop letting her own personal morals and beliefs get in the way of that. If he wants to punish her, then punish her. That'd be fine and no one would get upset at him for that. However, he doesn't do that. Instead he takes petty snipes at her like randomly deciding he's not okay with her patrol arrangements despite him being fine with them before, purely as a power move. That's not punishment, it's immaturity. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 5, 2019 2:52:50 GMT -5
Imo, I'm glad Bramble put his foot(paw?) down against Squirrelflight. Her insubordination should NOT get a pass just because they're mates and closer than the average Leader/Deputy should be. She undermined his choices, went behind his back, and got another leader wounded while being held, hostage. Her behavior, sneaking out and breaking the rules, were akin to that of an apprentice. She's lucky she got off so easy in the first place. And this is coming from someone that absolutely loves Squirrelflight, but if anyone was throwing a tantrum in this book, it was her. Between the kit woes and constant talking of them, and defying her own leader and getting into trouble, it was almost unbearable to read about from her perspective. Her behavior came off as utterly embarrassing at some points, and only made the relationship between her and Bramble worse. She expects to be given this and that, or expects everything to go hunky dory, when not everything is that easy. Bramble is right to prioritize the clan an be cautious. Squirrel needs to stop letting her own personal morals and beliefs get in the way of that. If he wants to punish her, then punish her. That'd be fine and no one would get upset at him for that. However, he doesn't do that. Instead he takes petty snipes at her like randomly deciding he's not okay with her patrol arrangements despite him being fine with them before, purely as a power move. That's not punishment, it's immaturity. At the same time that could also be percieved as him throwing into question her decisions after the matter of fact. I think its perfectly logical for him to question her abilities after all the foolishness prior. It just means he relied too much on her and put her on a pedestal, overestimating her abilities to handle the responsibilities given to her. Too much trust in her because of the relationship that have on a personal level probably made him think he was cutting her too much slack in the first place. And honestly, I think he is. It still baffles me that he didn't punish her before but at the same time he was probably annoyed with her and relieved she was alive period. Neither of them did well in the communication department but it honestly feels like the "lying about the kits" situation all over again, just not as bad. I'm not at all surprised by how Bramble is reacting to Squirrel's disobedience, he's probably used to it by now. Imo this is exactly why leader/deputy mates really don't mix. Also people will get upset about Bramble punishing her. If people are this angry just at them arguing to the point they call him horribly abusive I can't imagine the over exaggeration if he actually punished her for her behavior. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 5, 2019 3:25:23 GMT -5
The biggest irony to all of this is that the whole reason Bramble chose her as deputy was to show that he trusted her again. She does something that's untrustworthy and people don't expect him to be annoyed with her? Or question her capabilities? I'm surprised this is only becoming a problem now.
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 5, 2019 10:16:23 GMT -5
If he wants to punish her, then punish her. That'd be fine and no one would get upset at him for that. However, he doesn't do that. Instead he takes petty snipes at her like randomly deciding he's not okay with her patrol arrangements despite him being fine with them before, purely as a power move. That's not punishment, it's immaturity. At the same time that could also be percieved as him throwing into question her decisions after the matter of fact. I think its perfectly logical for him to question her abilities after all the foolishness prior. It just means he relied too much on her and put her on a pedestal, overestimating her abilities to handle the responsibilities given to her. Too much trust in her because of the relationship that have on a personal level probably made him think he was cutting her too much slack in the first place. And honestly, I think he is. It still baffles me that he didn't punish her before but at the same time he was probably annoyed with her and relieved she was alive period. Neither of them did well in the communication department but it honestly feels like the "lying about the kits" situation all over again, just not as bad. I'm not at all surprised by how Bramble is reacting to Squirrel's disobedience, he's probably used to it by now. Imo this is exactly why leader/deputy mates really don't mix. Also people will get upset about Bramble punishing her. If people are this angry just at them arguing to the point they call him horribly abusive I can't imagine the over exaggeration if he actually punished her for her behavior. Him being overtly paranoid and mistrusting everything she does does not paint him in a good light either if it wasn't just a petty power move. It makes him come off like an insecure leader who can't make up his mind. This continues to be a problem as he asks her to not question him, even if she has legitimately better ideas or a conflict of opinion. Punishment would have come off better because he would have presumably done it professionally and in a detached fashion rather than throwing out snipes like it's a highschool clique. |
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Post by Flamefrost on Dec 5, 2019 12:39:20 GMT -5
I think BramblexSquirrel only ever worked when they were equals. They've almost always had an imbalanced power dynamic - Warrior/Apprentice Leader/Member of the TNP group, and now Leader/Deputy. The time they worked best together was when she was a respected senior warrior, and he was a new deputy.
Their power dynamic creates conflict because Squirrel is far more of a Type A than Bramble ever was, but is always subservient to him. It makes her look hotheaded and him indecisive.
It also creates conflict because despite being equals in their relationship, they fundamentally aren't in their duties. I mean, dating your boss/employee is seen as a universally bad idea for a reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 12:48:10 GMT -5
I think BramblexSquirrel only ever worked when they were equals. They've almost always had an imbalanced power dynamic - Warrior/Apprentice Leader/Member of the TNP group, and now Leader/Deputy. The time they worked best together was when she was a respected senior warrior, and he was a new deputy. Their power dynamic creates conflict because Squirrel is far more of a Type A than Bramble ever was, but is always subservient to him. It makes her look hotheaded and him indecisive. It also creates conflict because despite being equals in their relationship, they fundamentally aren't in their duties. I mean, dating your boss/employee is seen as a universally bad idea for a reason. This is 1000% spot on |
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*Ravenpaw*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 5, 2019 15:43:05 GMT -5
Here's the thing, though: Bramblestar was being harsher than what was necessary. Yes, he and that Clans have every right not to trust the Sisters, but threatening to demote Squirrelflight and not letting Leafpool heal Sunset unless StarClan sent a sign? Seriously? He was horrible in this book. As for Squirrelflight, she clearly only wanted more kits to feel young again and so she can have a purpose other than being deputy. This book is basically her experiencing one big midlife crisis. That's a good way to look at it As for Bramblestar, it seems like everyone is all for Squirrelflight without even trying to see his side of things They were both wrong and both right in their own ways This was how I felt, too, when Squirrelflight's Hope came out. Sure, Bramblestar has done wrong, but Squirrelflight isn't perfect, either. He gets too much hate from the fandom. |
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