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Post by morningflower on Aug 31, 2019 0:29:36 GMT -5
It's also nice to see Tigerstar acting like Tigerstar. Funny how Mistystar helps out Tigerstar, guess her memory's starting to fail too. I think after AVoS Mistystar is prioritising RiverClan over literally anything else, lol.
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Post by kinkajou on Aug 31, 2019 7:12:35 GMT -5
Really sounds like I'm going to end up hating this book
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Aug 31, 2019 11:10:40 GMT -5
I think my favorite things about this book have to be the focus on Squirrel and Leaf (my favorite sibling pair), Leafpool's portrayal (she's so calm and selfless and skdgjsgks my bae), and the fact Starclan!Yellowfang is back to having a brain
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Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 31, 2019 12:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by sylveon on Aug 31, 2019 13:40:32 GMT -5
Bramblestar is so unreasonable and such a bully. Just because that's what he did with Firestar doesn't mean that's how all deputies should act. They're there to help lead and make decisions, if the leader is being an idiot then they are right to call them out. Does he not remember that's what made Firestar a great deputy, all the times he disobeyed Bluestar? This book is making me really hate Bramblestar and respect Squirrelflight more. She's reminding me of her father.
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Post by sylveon on Aug 31, 2019 13:46:26 GMT -5
I really enjoy Moonlight and I'm sorry she died. The Sisters seem like such an interesting group, and I'm curious to read more about them. It's the same way I felt in TS, where I wanted to know more about the Guardian Cats then the Clans.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Aug 31, 2019 17:29:32 GMT -5
Tigerstar reminds me of Leopardstar at this point, well loved and protective of his Clan, but hostile toward everything else... considering what he’s been through, it makes a little bit of sense, but it’s a bit odd when the authors are trying hard to make him likable.
As for Bramblestar being a jerk, it makes me wonder if he’s already being manipulated by a possessor at this point, and his death allowed the possessor to take full control. I guess we will have to wait for the other books to find out.
The judgment is weird, but more so because it seems to come out of nowhere. It makes sense that something exists there, but I feel like they should’ve been something seen before or context in previous books. Or perhaps this is something they have adopted after the Great Battle. I am hoping the next books will answer more questions.
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Post by alphayamergo on Aug 31, 2019 20:50:28 GMT -5
I just wanted some nice fluffy moments
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 31, 2019 23:49:15 GMT -5
I think Bramblestar warning Squirrel that he'll demote her is understandable.
Yes they're mates, but from a leadership point of view he should have put his paw down sooner...
She undersided his argument during the meeting, snuck behind his back to go to SkyClan, then was put in danger and held captive along side with SkyClan's leader for almost 3 days. Whereas SkyClan at least knew where Leafstar was going, ThunderClan didn't with Squirrelflight. The only ones that knew were Sparkpelt and Larksong and that was by sheer coincidence before she begged them not to say anything. It's utterly embarrassing...to find out your deputy snuck out of camp, went behind your back, and got captured on top of that.
I know Squirrelflight is doing this because she believes it's right, but she really isn't going about it the right way. On top of that I feel like people are getting on Bramble too much for not wanting more kits. Wanting more children should be a mutual thing. Bramblestar isn't ready for more kits, even if Squirrelflight wants more kits, and yes you can sympathize and feel bad for Squirrelflight but don't blame Bramblestar for her having doubts about their relationship and her thinking he'd just move on and forget her.
Listen I really don't like Bramblestar, and sometimes I think he can be unreasonable, and I love Squirrelflight, she's one of my fav characters. But I think some fans are getting a bit too heated with Bramble over this book. When a lot of things could have been avoided if not for Squirrel ignoring the rules despite being in a deputy position. I don't think she should get a free pass just because she's Bramble's mate, and I don't think Bramble should get so much smack vice versa for the same reason...Also it's not like he completely dismisses her reasonings, he's literally listening to her constantly in BrS, and relies on her keen input all the time, he respects her as his mate, warrior and deputy. But when it's not the other way around, whether intentional or not, it makes sense for him to be upset. It also makes sense for him to be protective of SkyClan after everything they've went through. From his and Leafstar's point of view, it feels like the lake cats are treating them like utter crap. To the point they don't think they even belong there anymore like StarClan willed. He's the only cat in the meeting that stood up for them, and that's pretty sad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 10:59:15 GMT -5
I think Bramblestar warning Squirrel that he'll demote her is understandable. Yes they're mates, but from a leadership point of view he should have put his paw down sooner... She undersided his argument during the meeting, snuck behind his back to go to SkyClan, then was put in danger and held captive along side with SkyClan's leader for almost 3 days. Whereas SkyClan at least knew where Leafstar was going, ThunderClan didn't with Squirrelflight. The only ones that knew were Sparkpelt and Larksong and that was by sheer coincidence before she begged them not to say anything. It's utterly embarrassing...to find out your deputy snuck out of camp, went behind your back, and got captured on top of that. I know Squirrelflight is doing this because she believes it's right, but she really isn't going about it the right way. On top of that I feel like people are getting on Bramble too much for not wanting more kits. Wanting more children should be a mutual thing. Bramblestar isn't ready for more kits, even if Squirrelflight wants more kits, and yes you can sympathize and feel bad for Squirrelflight but don't blame Bramblestar for her having doubts about their relationship and her thinking he'd just move on and forget her. Listen I really don't like Bramblestar, and sometimes I think he can be unreasonable, and I love Squirrelflight, she's one of my fav characters. But I think some fans are getting a bit too heated with Bramble over this book. When a lot of things could have been avoided if not for Squirrel ignoring the rules despite being in a deputy position. I don't think she should get a free pass just because she's Bramble's mate, and I don't think Bramble should get so much smack vice versa for the same reason...Also it's not like he completely dismisses her reasonings, he's literally listening to her constantly in BrS, and relies on her keen input all the time, he respects her as his mate, warrior and deputy. But when it's not the other way around, whether intentional or not, it makes sense for him to be upset. It also makes sense for him to be protective of SkyClan after everything they've went through. From his and Leafstar's point of view, it feels like the lake cats are treating them like utter crap. To the point they don't think they even belong there anymore like StarClan willed. He's the only cat in the meeting that stood up for them, and that's pretty sad. I admit I didn't read a lot of the pages but I always felt that Bramblestar was at least a reasonable leader. He's a lot like Firestar, putting his Clan first. I wasn't sure if the fans were overreacting or not but it makes sense that Squirrelflight shouldn't do shit behind his back as deputy. He's supposed to trust her, they are supppsed to work together and support each other. Otherwise without each other the clan will collapse. Look at Rowanstar and Tigerheart. Both constantly fought a lot, and Tigerheart left for Dovewing partly because he was fed up with the stress (I think this was implied at the beginning of the book that he was worried/stressed out a lot?) Both cats need each other's support and Squirrelflight wasn't helping. I'm glad they made up later and I think she's still a fantastic deputy but Bramble needs to trust her to support him. Squirrelflight reminds me a lpt like young Fireheart, when he went behind Bluestar's back, while Bramblestar reminds me of a mix between Firestar and Bluestar, tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 13:21:07 GMT -5
"Larksong had come to Squirrelflight, asking to be assigned to the same patrols as Spakpelt. Squirrelflight was touched by their protective love for each other, but it made her feel the loss of Bramblestar's affection even more." YIKES. Anyway, I'm glad Sparkpelt is actually getting some attention.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Sept 1, 2019 14:28:32 GMT -5
I didn't like Sparkpelt in AVoS, but this book is making me change my mind about her. They screwed her over so bad in this book...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 14:37:09 GMT -5
I have a question.. Since SkyClan decided to move to the new territory, does that mean ShadowClan and Thunderclan once again share a border? What are the borders even now?
Are they the same as before, and SkyClan is just all by themselves?
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Post by Cheetahstar on Sept 1, 2019 16:49:30 GMT -5
Squirrelstar should become a thing so she can say f*** starclan, bunch of losers and actually have the will to go through with warrior code reforms.
If any cat can do it she can
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Sept 1, 2019 18:04:57 GMT -5
Squirrelstar should become a thing so she can say f*** starclan, bunch of losers and actually have the will to go through with warrior code reforms. If any cat can do it she can I feel like they might be setting it up? I kind of hope so. I feel like Firestar, Sandstorm, and Leafpool would all be sosososo proud of her. You can tell Firestar believes in her (probably because they both share similar habits of sneaking off to do what they believe is right)
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Post by sylveon on Sept 1, 2019 20:42:00 GMT -5
I have a question.. Since SkyClan decided to move to the new territory, does that mean ShadowClan and Thunderclan once again share a border? What are the borders even now?
Are they the same as before, and SkyClan is just all by themselves?
Honestly I didn't even realize anything changed territory wise in the lost stars. that shows how much I pay attention lmao
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 22:15:51 GMT -5
I have a question.. Since SkyClan decided to move to the new territory, does that mean ShadowClan and Thunderclan once again share a border? What are the borders even now?
Are they the same as before, and SkyClan is just all by themselves?
Honestly I didn't even realize anything changed territory wise in the lost stars. that shows how much I pay attention lmao Neither did I lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 10:55:53 GMT -5
Okay, I found out what happened. Poor Strikestone. :c Can someone tell me what happened to Strikestone...?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 10:58:54 GMT -5
Okay, I found out what happened. Poor Strikestone. :c Can someone tell me what happened to Strikestone...? He got deafened for life in one ear. It got shredded really badly, and infected, and they couldn't treat the infection in time, which caused him to become deaf, in one ear.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Sept 3, 2019 10:22:41 GMT -5
This book is except example of why the code,”A leader word is law” is in appropriate. Like yikes. Also all respect that I had for Harestar is officially gone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 10:43:55 GMT -5
This book is except example of why the code,”A leader word is law” is in appropriate. Like yikes. Also all respect that I had for Harestar is officially gone. I think it was made inappropriate when Brokenstar was leader. What did Harestar do?
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Sept 3, 2019 11:10:04 GMT -5
This book is except example of why the code,”A leader word is law” is in appropriate. Like yikes. Also all respect that I had for Harestar is officially gone. I think it was made inappropriate when Brokenstar was leader. What did Harestar do? He’s being an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 11:14:46 GMT -5
I think it was made inappropriate when Brokenstar was leader. What did Harestar do? He’s being an asshole. Noo! I hope he doesn't stay that way, or WindClan might have to do a blood sacrifice and bring Deadfoot back from the dead, so he can be leader.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 11:20:43 GMT -5
I'm reading more of the blog and it said.. Tree - small, muscular, thickly pelted
AWW Tree is small! I always imagined him being a large cat.
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Post by Haze on Sept 3, 2019 15:25:24 GMT -5
I managed to get the books as well and reading it personally. Leafstar is a zero chill cat.
Squirrelflight have Stockholm Syndrome.
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Post by Haze on Sept 3, 2019 15:43:15 GMT -5
The sisters ancestors were a single kittypet family and because they are bigger than Bramblestar and any cat that Squirrelflight ever knew my guess is that the sisters are descended from Maine Coons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 15:47:44 GMT -5
The sisters ancestors were a single kittypet family and because they are bigger than Bramblestar and any cat that Squirrelflight ever knew my guess is that the sisters are descended from Maine Coons. Imagine if they were descended from Ragdolls, they're large, and super chill lol
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 3, 2019 15:59:07 GMT -5
How did you guys read it? didn't it only come out today? It did, but someone on Tumblr got it early.
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