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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 16:00:36 GMT -5
Judgement time. Firestar is taking Leafpool and Squirrelflight to Tallstar, Crookedstar, Bluestar, Yellowfang, Moth Flight (who I wasn't expecting to see btw) and Littlecloud to see if they can join StC. They can. Was there really any doubt? Also, how do you decide who the judges are?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:01:42 GMT -5
Judgement time. Firestar is taking Leafpool and Squirrelflight to Tallstar, Crookedstar, Bluestar, Moth Flight (who I wasn't expecting to see btw) and Littlecloud to see if they can join StC. They can. Was there really any doubt? Also, how do you decide who the judges are? Maybe they take a vote?
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Post by Haze on Aug 30, 2019 16:07:40 GMT -5
What the heck? My poor Strikeboy.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 16:09:04 GMT -5
I wonder where Sandstorm is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:13:41 GMT -5
I wonder where Sandstorm is. She pops up in Chapter 25
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:14:29 GMT -5
I guess Mapleshade really is faded like I believed she was. Okay, no official confirmation on that, but if there is hardly any cats there, Mapleshade probably is gone. Good riddance. I don't want to see her in any more books. No more "I'm here to get revenge!" bullshit. >. <
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 16:15:20 GMT -5
Found Sandstorm. Dustpelt, Briarlight and Mosskit are here as well. Briarlight can walk again! Bluestar is now living with Oakheart. I remember when Kate said that those two were mates in StC, but they were never able to point it out in the books. I guess she was finally able to point it out. Bluestar and Mosskit are inseparable now. Also, Dandelionkit and Juniperkit spend a lot of time with Mosskit. While Leafpool is happy to stay in StarClan, Squirrelflight wants to get back to Sparkpelt.
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Post by Haze on Aug 30, 2019 16:31:48 GMT -5
Briarlight walks in starclan
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 16:33:05 GMT -5
I just realized something. All three of Sparkpelt and Larksong's kits name start with the letter "f", just like how all of Millie and Graystripe's kits names start with the letter "b". It's so cute when they all start with the same letter.
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Aug 30, 2019 16:36:44 GMT -5
thoughts about a**f*r: do u think what hollyleaf said rings true? that when in starclan, things from the living world seem less important? idk if thats true for all the starclan cats since lots of important figures like bluestar and some ancients care about whats happening in the forest and give prophecies and help out, etc.
but what if what hollyleaf said WAS true and that ashfur TRULY does view his actions as not important anymore once going to starclan? what if bc he's already there and views his life's actions as lesser, he doesnt turn evil?
idk im just trying to reason why ashfur IS NOT the cat possessing squirrelflight. just giving that idea thought with what hollyleaf said about things in the forest being less important bc starclan brings peace and unity to ALL clan cats.
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Aug 30, 2019 16:43:17 GMT -5
It's so cool to know that Briarlight's walking again.
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Post by vectoring34 on Aug 30, 2019 16:55:47 GMT -5
That the Dark Forest has crumbled could mean to me that the possessing spirit in Lost Stars might actually be a Dark Forester. The mention of them not knowing where evil cats go now after they die makes me sort of suspicious that this is the case, though I really wish it isn't. The focus on Ashfur's morality might just be a red herring...
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Post by Haze on Aug 30, 2019 17:06:14 GMT -5
That the Dark Forest has crumbled could mean to me that the possessing spirit in Lost Stars might actually be a Dark Forester. The mention of them not knowing where evil cats go now after they die makes me sort of suspicious that this is the case, though I really wish it isn't. The focus on Ashfur's morality might just be a red herring... The thing is the prologue of Lost Stars that specifically mention a warrior from Starclan talking about Shadowpaw. But in Tawnypelt clan do say that Shadowpaw powers is not limited to starclan, then it will depend if the cat from the LS prologue and the voice have relation.
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Post by vectoring34 on Aug 30, 2019 17:14:55 GMT -5
That the Dark Forest has crumbled could mean to me that the possessing spirit in Lost Stars might actually be a Dark Forester. The mention of them not knowing where evil cats go now after they die makes me sort of suspicious that this is the case, though I really wish it isn't. The focus on Ashfur's morality might just be a red herring... The thing is the prologue of Lost Stars that specifically mention a warrior from Starclan talking about Shadowpaw. But in Tawnypelt clan do say that Shadowpaw powers is not limited to starclan, then it will depend if the cat from the LS prologue and the voice have relation. If the Dark Forest has crumbled, then evil cats could be in Starclan. It seems to me that what happened was sort of like what happened in the Last Hope, where the Dark Forest was engulfing the living world and transforming the living world into the Dark Forest. In this case, however, its Starclan that has assimilated the Dark Forest. If that is indeed the case, then the former cats of the Dark Forest would thusly be Starclan cats. I don't know, all the mentions of Darktail combined with them not knowing where evil cats go anywhere is super sketchy. And of course, as you said, there's no guarantee that the voice and the prologue cat are the same cat.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 17:28:17 GMT -5
So, apparently StarClan hasn't been silent lately. The Clans just aren't listening hard enough. And Leafpool telling Squirrelflight to "take care of them". Aw! An image of Jay, Lion, Bramble, Spark and Alder came into Squirrelflight's head when Leafpool told her that.
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Aug 30, 2019 17:35:35 GMT -5
So, apparently StarClan hasn't been silent lately. The Clans just aren't listening hard enough. And Leafpool telling Squirrelflight to "take care of them". Aw! An image of Jay, Lion, Bramble, Spark and Alder came into Squirrelflight's head when Leafpool told her that. Cute!
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 17:36:17 GMT -5
Squirrelflight is back and alive. It's also time for Leafpool's vigil. :c Also, Millie is still alive. I wonder what happened to her. She's the only one of the missing four cats from TBC that's still alive at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 17:37:32 GMT -5
Squirrelflight is back and alive. It's also time for Leafpool's vigil. :c Also, Millie is still alive. I wonder what happened to her. She's the only one of the missing four cats from TBC that's still alive at this point. It said she was looking a bit frail, so maybe she died of old age or something
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 17:40:44 GMT -5
Oh. Tallstar, Crookedstar, Bluestar, Yellowfang, Littlecloud and Moth Flight were judges specifically chosen for Leafpool and Squirrelflight. That explains that.
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Aug 30, 2019 17:43:47 GMT -5
after all these years,
starclan still sucks.
thanks for coming to my TEDtalk
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 30, 2019 17:50:42 GMT -5
I think Ashfur's calm nature is just a red herring, but at this point? I really don't care who it is. But if it's not him, then it's likely going to be someone completely out of left field because that's just how this series works.
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Post by vectoring34 on Aug 30, 2019 17:54:20 GMT -5
Yeah, honestly this version of Starclan(we've had so many at this point) seems really, really creepy. Like, Stepford Wives kind of creepy. Everyone's just...air-headedly happy. They forget their living lives, just sort of become a generic mass of goodness. Hollyleaf barely reacts to the conversation about Ashfur, Ashfur doesn't bother apologizing to Squirrelflight at all, etc.
This does prove my theory that a cat in Starclan isn't the same as they were in life, but it kind of makes the universe a little depressing in that there is no "real" after life. Even if you go to Starclan, you don't stay the same and start to forget the living in favor of the dead. I'm half expecting Cthulhu to appear now.
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Post by Haze on Aug 30, 2019 17:55:35 GMT -5
I think Ashfur's calm nature is just a red herring, but at this point? I really don't care who it's. But if it's not him, then it's likely going to be someone completely out of left field because that's just how this series works. We do have the Shadowpaw vision of fire and ashes that will happen somehow because prophecies in this series will happen no matter what you do.
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Post by alphayamergo on Aug 30, 2019 18:00:31 GMT -5
I feel so betrayed that they used Hollyleaf as the "eh, he's not that bad" mouthpiece. He IS that bad and Hollyleaf knows it!
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 30, 2019 18:04:01 GMT -5
I feel so betrayed that they used Hollyleaf as the "eh, he's not that bad" mouthpiece. He IS that bad and Hollyleaf knows it! They did my girl dirty! I mean, if it were any other cat, maybe I'd let it slide. But Hollyleaf has a very personal history with him, so for her to just shrug it off? I know it's been seasons, but still...
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Aug 30, 2019 18:07:31 GMT -5
I feel so betrayed that they used Hollyleaf as the "eh, he's not that bad" mouthpiece. He IS that bad and Hollyleaf knows it! They did my girl dirty! I mean, if it were any other cat, maybe I'd let it slide. But Hollyleaf has a very personal history with him, so for her to just shrug it off? I know it's been seasons, but still... this is why it makes me torn. on one hand, she did say "things in the forest r less important once u get up here" or something along those lines.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 30, 2019 18:08:59 GMT -5
Oh god, StarClan just keeps getting worse! Who even decides these judges? I mean, I'm glad the hypocrisy is being called out (especially by Leafpool with the "I'm waiting for you to say that the father of my kits was from another Clan" thing), but come on! Although, I do wonder if Ashfur was judged so harshly, if not worse.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Aug 30, 2019 18:10:38 GMT -5
From what I'm reading Starclans starting to sound more like some creepy hivemind
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Post by morningflower on Aug 30, 2019 18:17:40 GMT -5
Bramble and Squirrel's reunion after she came back from the DEAD was so lacklustre...like he doesn't even apologise for his behaviour in the book or anything else?
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 30, 2019 18:23:45 GMT -5
Naw! I'm just really sad now. Sparkpelt is still showing grief and has no interest in the kits at the moment because of this. Stormcloud is trying to get her to eat and with encouragement from both Squirrelflight and Stormcloud, Sparkpelt is now playing with her kits.
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