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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 17:09:12 GMT -5
IDK It would be profitable. Chances are that over half of the fandom would pay for a remade version of just Into the Wild. Although HC would definitely notย agree to this. It would generally be a controversial thing to do. Btw, which books are you remaking? It doesn't matter if the fandom would pay to read it or not, it'd still be illegal anyway. And it says right in the title as well as in the first post that I plan on remaking the entire series. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 17:11:08 GMT -5
I would like Thistleclaw to still be alive, maybe he, like, edges Brokenstar to attack them, and killed during the battle by him? IdkThistleclaw will probably be dead by the start of ItW just like in canon, but nothing is set in stone yet, so I might have him live at least until Firepaw meets him. |
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Aug 14, 2017 17:19:05 GMT -5
How do you plan on handling the three, their powers and Hollyleaf? Personally, I think Hollyleaf would make a great clan leader with the journey she's had with the canon story line.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 17:32:09 GMT -5
How do you plan on handling the three, their powers and Hollyleaf? Personally, I think Hollyleaf would make a great clan leader with the journey she's had with the canon story line. Well, Dovewing won't be one of the Three, I can tell you that much. In fact, neither will Ivypool. Whether they'll still have important roles in the story is what I'm still trying to figure out. Two of the Three's powers will definitely still be the same as it was in canon, but I'm not sure if the super senses should still be a thing or if I should go with what I had headcanoned for Hollyleaf's power had she been one of the Three. Jayfeather will still be one of the Three, but I'm still not entirely sure on the other two. As for Hollyleaf, given what I have planned for Leafpool, her story arc probably be pretty different than it was in canon and might even be given to a different character entirely. |
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Aug 14, 2017 18:49:20 GMT -5
Well, when you put Leafpool and Hollyleaf in the same sentence, I can only assume that trouble will ensue lol. But I actually had a love hate relationship with Dovewing's power, so if you have something better in mind I would go with it.
If you plan on keeping Lionblaze and his power, I would suggest giving it clear limits. Sometimes it was that he couldn't be injured, other times it was that he couldn't be beaten in battle, but in both scenarios the Erin's realized in hindsight how crippling to a story it is to have a cat who was unbeatable- kind of calls into question the validity of any battle he's in.
Personally I think only Jayfeather's power was completely fleshed out, even though it did border the line of mind reading.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 18:58:23 GMT -5
Well, when you put Leafpool and Hollyleaf in the same sentence, I can only assume that trouble will ensue lol. But I actually had a love hate relationship with Dovewing's power, so if you have something better in mind I would go with it. If you plan on keeping Lionblaze and his power, I would suggest giving it clear limits. Sometimes it was that he couldn't be injured, other times it was that he couldn't be beaten in battle, but in both scenarios the Erin's realized in hindsight how crippling to a story it is to have a cat who was unbeatable- kind of calls into question the validity of any battle he's in. Personally I think only Jayfeather's power was completely fleshed out, even though it did border the line of mind reading. Well, you're kind of right. XD I do mention some of the changes to Leafpool's arc. For one, I'm changing who her love interest is, and this is coming from someone who didn't even mind CrowxLeaf. And I agree. Lionblaze's power was kind of confusing in the books. I'll still keep it (as well as make it clearer than the books did), I'm just not sure if it'll be Lionblaze who'll have that power. Jayfeather will still be the same. |
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Aug 14, 2017 19:07:51 GMT -5
 hmm a different love interest for Leafpool? Sounds fun. And speaking of confusing things in the books, what are your feelings on the Dark Forest? Keep them as a main antagonist or scrap it? What about Heathertail and Lionblaze? I know it was minor, but I actually enjoyed it. I wouldn't say that I want to see a whole relationship, but I think it'd be interesting to see an actual friendship across borders- a genuine friendship that everyone questions.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 19:12:18 GMT -5
hmm a different love interest for Leafpool? Sounds fun. And speaking of confusing things in the books, what are your feelings on the Dark Forest? Keep them as a main antagonist or scrap it? What about Heathertail and Lionblaze? I know it was minor, but I actually enjoyed it. I wouldn't say that I want to see a whole relationship, but I think it'd be interesting to see an actual friendship across borders- a genuine friendship that everyone questions. I'll still be keeping the Dark Forest. As for Lionblaze and Heathertail, I'm still not sure, but if I do keep it, then it'll just be friendship between them. I never saw them as anything but, even after it was confirmed they apparently loved each other (and when they were just apprentices, at that). |
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Aug 14, 2017 19:44:14 GMT -5
It was? I didn't see love between them; it was cute, maybe a crush, but for me at least not love. Just kids hanging out and more or less enjoying the fact that they were sneaking around.
Now about Stonefur...is he still going to die? You see I'm torn, because the main reason he's such a strong character is because he dies, but that also makes me want him to live.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 19:51:58 GMT -5
It was? I didn't see love between them; it was cute, maybe a crush, but for me at least not love. Just kids hanging out and more or less enjoying the fact that they were sneaking around. Now about Stonefur...is he still going to die? You see I'm torn, because the main reason he's such a strong character is because he dies, but that also makes me want him to live. Yeah, it was even stated within the books that they loved each other and I think one or more of the Erins confirmed it as well. I mean, I could buy that they had crushes on each other, but love? I don't see it. And yes, Stonefur will probably still die. Either way, I want to flesh out his character a bit more first. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 14, 2017 20:14:19 GMT -5
I have a suggestion!! I'd love to see Leopardstar being the mother of Hawkfrost and Mothwing... And hear me out... Leopardstar somewhat had feelings for Tigerstar, thus leading to him convincing her to be an ally of TigerClan in a time of insecurity of her leadership... During that time he uses her as a way to carry on his bloodline and have kits, then he gets killed by Scourge blah blah blah. She has to live with the fact she was completely used rather than the whole Sasha ordeal. It would make more sense that Hawk and Moth are in RiverClan and would have more Leopardstar's character imo... Plus, the genetics would be more realistic... Another suggestion is just for Sasha to never exist... She's so insecure and boring to me and her character design pisses me off. If you go a few pages back, I already planned on having Leopardstar be the mother of Hawkfrost and Mothwing anyway. |
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Post by Noface on Aug 15, 2017 6:04:49 GMT -5
Make Brokenstar live longer.
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Post by Tas on Aug 15, 2017 9:42:22 GMT -5
I have to ask - what was Hollyleaf's head-canoned power that you came up with?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 10:03:47 GMT -5
Make Brokenstar live longer. I'm still not entirely sure what to do with Brokenstar, but it's unlikely he'll live very long. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 10:08:08 GMT -5
I have to ask - what was Hollyleaf's head-canoned power that you came up with? Granted, I'm not the only one to have come up with this, but you know how Jayfeather's power has more to do with the mind and Lionblaze's with brawn? Well, Hollyleaf's would've had more to do with the heart, specifically knowing a cat's true desires and possibly even being able to manipulate those desires. Kind of like a living lie detector of sorts. |
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Post by โ
Maplefrostโ
on Aug 15, 2017 12:54:52 GMT -5
I actually still think the one of the three that should die at the end of the DF battle should be Lion not Holly. It would have more of an impact imo.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 13:03:38 GMT -5
I actually still think the one of the three that should die at the end of the DF battle should be Lion not Holly. It would have more of an impact imo. Well, I do want more cats do die during the Great Battle, especially from ThunderClan. |
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Post by โ
Maplefrostโ
on Aug 15, 2017 13:05:48 GMT -5
I actually still think the one of the three that should die at the end of the DF battle should be Lion not Holly. It would have more of an impact imo. Well, I do want more cats do die during the Great Battle, especially from ThunderClan. Would be interesting. The cat that many were intimated by, the one that supposedly could never lose in battle. The one covered in the blood of his enemies. The one that made Tigerstar's eyes widen with fear for even a moment. The one that almost goes crazy with his powers, and even battle hungry. The one that's supposed to be TC newest strongest warrior, at the time. Him dying in battle, would definitely be more of an impact. I can see other clan cats getting cheeky about it, like how they did when Firestar died. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 13:31:30 GMT -5
Well, I do want more cats do die during the Great Battle, especially from ThunderClan. Would be interesting. The cat that many were intimated by, the one that supposedly could never lose in battle. The one covered in the blood of his enemies. The one that made Tigerstar's eyes widen with fear for even a moment. The one that almost goes crazy with his powers, and even battle hungry. The one that's supposed to be TC newest strongest warrior, at the time. Him dying in battle, would definitely be more of an impact. I can see other clan cats getting cheeky about it, like how they did when Firestar died. Yeah, I was thinking of doing something like that. ThunderClan's strongest warrior dying in battle while protecting his Clan seems fitting. |
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Post by โญ แแแIแแ แแฉOแช โญ on Aug 15, 2017 16:56:52 GMT -5
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN |
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Post by โญ แแแIแแ แแฉOแช โญ on Aug 15, 2017 16:59:27 GMT -5
So what kind of changes do you think you'll do rather than making cats live longer (I'm so happy I'll see more of Redtail), Changing family tree, relationships, characters, etc? Anything specific?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 17:18:31 GMT -5
So what kind of changes do you think you'll do rather than making cats live longer (I'm so happy I'll see more of Redtail), Changing family tree, relationships, characters, etc? Anything specific? Well, some specific examples is that Whitestorm will be the father of all three of Willowpelt's litters (so yes, he'll also be Darkstripe's father, but Graystripe's as well). Another change I had in mind is making Redtail and Spottedleaf (and maybe Willowpelt as well) Sunstar and Dappletail's kits instead of Adderfang and Swiftbreeze's in order to explain why they're tortoiseshell and also why Sandstorm is ginger even though neither of her parents are, as well as to reduce the amount of cats directly related to Adderfang and Swiftbreeze. I'll also be changing some mentor-apprentice relationships, as well as cats having different ranks than they did in canon. |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Aug 15, 2017 17:30:09 GMT -5
I was thinking you could give Jayfeather Dovewing's super senses give that he is blind and him having superior hearing would make sense. As for sight he could temporarily be able to see similar to how he could see in his visions.
Also have you considered giving Lionblaze the ability to predict his opponents moves and/or make it so that every time he is defeated he gets stronger?
As for Hollyleaf the power you planned to give her before seems fine.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 17:48:07 GMT -5
I was thinking you could give Jayfeather Dovewing's super senses give that he is blind and him having superior hearing would make sense. As for sight he could temporarily be able to see similar to how he could see in his visions. Also have you considered giving Lionblaze the ability to predict his opponents moves and/or make it so that every time he is defeated he gets stronger? As for Hollyleaf the power you planned to give her before seems fine. I mean, I still want to keep the mind (Jayfeather), body (Lionblaze), and soul (Hollyleaf/whoever the Third will be) theme going on with the Three, so it's likely I won't be using Dovewing's powers at all in this AU. If there is a Fourth cat, I'll likely give them a power that represents spirit to keep up with the theme. And yeah, I've considered doing that, but I'm worried he'll be overpowered if I do that, so I'm still considering how to limit Lionblaze's power (if it should have limits at all) other than just not focusing in a fight in order to get beaten. And thanks. |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Aug 15, 2017 18:02:55 GMT -5
I was thinking you could give Jayfeather Dovewing's super senses give that he is blind and him having superior hearing would make sense. As for sight he could temporarily be able to see similar to how he could see in his visions. Also have you considered giving Lionblaze the ability to predict his opponents moves and/or make it so that every time he is defeated he gets stronger? As for Hollyleaf the power you planned to give her before seems fine. I mean, I still want to keep the mind (Jayfeather), body (Lionblaze), and soul (Hollyleaf/whoever the Third will be) theme going on with the Three, so it's likely I won't be using Dovewing's powers at all in this AU. If there is a Fourth cat, I'll likely give them a power that represents spirit to keep up with the theme. And yeah, I've considered doing that, but I'm worried he'll be overpowered if I do that, so I'm still considering how to limit Lionblaze's power (if it should have limits at all) other than just not focusing in a fight in order to get beaten. And thanks. Well I was mostly focusing on the hearing aspect of it since Jayfeather has been shown with good hearing since he was able to track where cats were throughout ThjunderClan's territory. Well if you pick to do one of them they each haves their faults. For instance if Lionblaze can track his enemies movements it doesn't mean he'll have the skill to counter those movements. The same is kinda true if he gets stronger after every fight. Strength doesn't equal skill. So while he'll get stronger it wouldn't mean he'd have technique to take out his more cunning, strategic foes. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 18:06:05 GMT -5
I mean, I still want to keep the mind (Jayfeather), body (Lionblaze), and soul (Hollyleaf/whoever the Third will be) theme going on with the Three, so it's likely I won't be using Dovewing's powers at all in this AU. If there is a Fourth cat, I'll likely give them a power that represents spirit to keep up with the theme. And yeah, I've considered doing that, but I'm worried he'll be overpowered if I do that, so I'm still considering how to limit Lionblaze's power (if it should have limits at all) other than just not focusing in a fight in order to get beaten. And thanks. Well I was mostly focusing on the hearing aspect of it since Jayfeather has been shown with good hearing since he was able to track where cats were throughout ThjunderClan's territory. Well if you pick to do one of them they each haves their faults. For instance if Lionblaze can track his enemies movements it doesn't mean he'll have the skill to counter those movements. The same is kinda true if he gets stronger after every fight. Strength doesn't equal skill. So while he'll get stronger it wouldn't mean he'd have technique to take out his more cunning, strategic foes. Yeah, something like that could work for Lionblaze as well. |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Aug 15, 2017 18:07:15 GMT -5
Well if Lionblaze is gonna die then why don't you make it that once the battle is over he receives all the wounds he has achieved since birth and any wound he has already doesn't heal?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Aug 15, 2017 18:16:17 GMT -5
Well if Lionblaze is gonna die then why don't you make it that once the battle is over he receives all the wounds he has achieved since birth and any wound he has already doesn't heal? Dark, but I like it! XD Really though, I'm still trying to think of which cats will die throughout the series in general, but Lionblaze will probably be one of them. Actually, I'm still not even sure if he'll even be one of the Three at all, but it's still a possibility for whoever gets his power. |
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Post by โญ แแแIแแ แแฉOแช โญ on Aug 15, 2017 18:50:28 GMT -5
So what kind of changes do you think you'll do rather than making cats live longer (I'm so happy I'll see more of Redtail), Changing family tree, relationships, characters, etc? Anything specific? Well, some specific examples is that Whitestorm will be the father of all three of Willowpelt's litters (so yes, he'll also be Darkstripe's father, but Graystripe's as well). Another change I had in mind is making Redtail and Spottedleaf (and maybe Willowpelt as well) Sunstar and Dappletail's kits instead of Adderfang and Swiftbreeze's in order to explain why they're tortoiseshell and also why Sandstorm is ginger even though neither of her parents are, as well as to reduce the amount of cats directly related to Adderfang and Swiftbreeze. I'll also be changing some mentor-apprentice relationships, as well as cats having different ranks than they did in canon. Sounds neat |
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hmm a different love interest for Leafpool? Sounds fun. 
