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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 7:46:14 GMT -5
Obviously it's Tawnypelt since she was called the deputy in the sneak peak. Jk Who knows maybe it's Needletail It's Tigerheart. *chokes* |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 11:36:23 GMT -5
How does Violetpaw turn out?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 17:24:40 GMT -5
What exactly does Twigpaw think of Tigerheart and Dovewing formerly being in a relationship?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 17:29:48 GMT -5
Twigpaw's mentor was Ivypool. As for Leafpaw, Honeypaw and Larkpaw's mentor, I'm not sure. I think two of them were Rosepetal and Bumblestripe, but I could be wrong. It never really told us.
Violetpaw's mentor was Dawnpelt. And Grassheart's kits are named Flowerpaw, Snakepaw and Whorlpaw. I'm not sure who their mentors are. I think Lionpaw's mentor is Snowbird. Not sure about Birchpaw. Slatekit vanished altogether, so no clue what happened to him. The last time he was seen was in chapter 2.
In WindClan, we have Brindlepaw. In RiverClan we have Nightpaw, Breezepaw, Wavepaw and Cypresspaw. Though those two just came out of nowhere. They aren't Lakeheart's kits and they were stated to be new apprentices. At least the book confirmed they were littermates. Which reminds me, Lakeheart's kits should be apprentices by now as well.
Molewhisker had Honeypaw, Rosepetal had Larkpaw, and Bumblestripe had Leafpaw. Alright, thanks! I couldn't tell who they were, though it did feel like Rosepetal and Bumblestripe were two of them. I still wish Dovewing could've gotten an apprentice. Also:
Brightheart had Jaypaw. Jaypaw becomes a medicine cat apprentice and Firestar promises her another apprentice. She never gets one.
Molewhisker had Alderpaw. Alderpaw becomes a medicine cat apprentice and Bramblestar gives him another apprentice right away.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 17:38:33 GMT -5
What exactly does Twigpaw think of Tigerheart and Dovewing formerly being in a relationship? Ivypool flicked her ear. "Well, this is a secret, so you mustn't tell, but Tigerheart and Dovewing used to have feelings for each other."
"Feelings?" Twigpaw took a moment to understand. "You mean they liked each other?"
"I think it was a bit more than like." Ivypool sounded disapproving. "But they're in different Clans, so it couldn't go anywhere. It's not good for things like that to be stirred up.
Twigpaw kept walking, her mind spinning. Dovewing and Tigerheart were in different Clans...just like her and Violetpaw. Couldn't Ivypool see that it was even worse to be separated from your kin? To not even be able to worry about your littermate properly, because she never knew what was going on?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 17:39:54 GMT -5
I'm guessing you aren't happy. |
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 3, 2016 17:41:29 GMT -5
*avoids spoilers*
So, by the way, my friend got the B&N exclusive edition, and the scene is about Needlepaw.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 17:55:50 GMT -5
How does Violetpaw turn out? Well, for the longest time she believed that no one in ShC really wanted her around. To her, Needlepaw was her only friend. She was shocked when Needlepaw took her to meet the rogues. And before they got there Needlepaw caught a mouse and offered to share it with both Sleekpaw and Violetkit. Violetkit was very surprised at this as she believed that apprentices were only meant to hunt for their Clan. She didn't take a bite. Though when Needlepaw asked her to go to Rain and tell him why he can't go meet him the rogues give her some prey and she does eat it. But she was much more hungry at that time.
Before Needlepaw announced that she was leaving the Clan, she (in her mind) was willing Needlepaw to be quiet before she got into more trouble. When she found out Needlepaw was leaving, she asked her not to go. Needlepaw told Violetkit that she was coming as well and Violetkit was relived that she still got to be with Needlepaw. Fast forward. Violetpaw noticeably doesn't like being with these rogues and Needletail spends most her time with Rain now making her feel left out and missing her friend.
So she runs back to the Clan and gains Dawnpelt for a mentor. Though it takes a while for her to earn the trust of ShC because she was with the rogues. Luckily she and Dawnpelt get along pretty well. When Twigpaw is caught in ShC's camp because she decide to visit her sister, Twigpaw gets kept prisoner for a short while. Though Crowfrost eventually let her go (and nearly everyone turns against him). All Twigpaw wants is to go home while there and when she gets the chance Violetpaw is upset since Twigpaw promised her she will always be there for her.
In the end, Needletail convinces Violetpaw to join the rogues and she does. When Twigpaw goes to see her in the end and try to convince her to join TC Violetpaw's response was "Why should I? You didn't want to join ShadowClan to be with me." You could tell she was deeply hurt that Twigpaw didn't want to stay with her.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 17:56:40 GMT -5
*avoids spoilers* So, by the way, my friend got the B&N exclusive edition, and the scene is about Needlepaw. Oh, alright. Do you know when it takes place? Before TAQ? |
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 3, 2016 17:57:35 GMT -5
*avoids spoilers* So, by the way, my friend got the B&N exclusive edition, and the scene is about Needlepaw. Oh, alright. Do you know when it takes place? Before TAQ? I'm not sure. She hasn't gotten to that part yet. It's at the very end. But she is still called Needlepaw, if that's what you mean. |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 18:00:35 GMT -5
Oh, alright. Do you know when it takes place? Before TAQ? I'm not sure. She hasn't gotten to that part yet. It's at the very end. But she is still called Needlepaw, if that's what you mean. I was just wondering if it takes place before TAQ. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 18:08:46 GMT -5
Besides Needletail, what do you think of the other ShadowClan cats in this book?
Also, do Sparkpelt, Molewhisker, and Cherryfall still have roles in this book, or are they mostly in the background?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 18:22:14 GMT -5
Besides Needletail, what do you think of the other ShadowClan cats in this book? Also, do Sparkpelt, Molewhisker, and Cherryfall still have roles in this book, or are they mostly in the background? Those three were mostly in the background, which I was a little saddened by.
I thought that Crowfrost was a pretty good leader figure, though I don't think the rest of ShadowClan agrees. Someone even says right to his face that he is no leader, all just because he let Twigpaw go. I was saddened when he died.
Puddleshine was so cute and kind. I liked him immediately. And he is so devoted to helping his Clanmates. He originally wanted to become a warrior like his littermates, but I think he'll be a pretty great medicine cat. Can't wait to see more of him.
Sleekwhisker was pretty rude and arrogant. You can just tell she doesn't believe in StarClan just from the way she talks. I used to like, but not anymore now that we've seen what she's really like. Also, she's so disrespectful. She actually stated that Littlecloud is so old, he should have died long ago. This reminds me the meeting between Breezepaw and Purdy in Outcast.
I really liked Grassheart's kits, though we didn't get to see much of them.
Tawnypelt is still one of my favourite ShC cats, Dawnpelt was very likable and Tigerheart was a pretty alright character as well.
I do NOT like Spikefur. He snarled at Crowfrost for letting Twigpaw go, he was so quick to turn on Rowanstar and start following Darktail. He said ShC needed new leadership, strong leadership and told Rowanstar that he can't come back if he goes to the gathering. Scorchfur was also quick to turn on Rowanstar.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 18:27:51 GMT -5
Besides Needletail, what do you think of the other ShadowClan cats in this book? Also, do Sparkpelt, Molewhisker, and Cherryfall still have roles in this book, or are they mostly in the background? Those three were mostly in the background, which I was a little saddened by.
I thought that Crowfrost was a pretty good leader figure, though I don't think the rest of ShadowClan agrees. Someone even says right to his face that he is no leader, all just because he let Twigpaw go. I was saddened when he died.
Puddleshine was so cute and kind. I liked him immediately. And he is so devoted to helping his Clanmates. He originally wanted to become a warrior like his littermates, but I think he'll be a pretty great medicine cat. Can't wait to see more of him.
Sleekwhisker was pretty rude and arrogant. You can just tell she doesn't believe in StarClan just from the way she talks. I used to like, but not anymore now that we've seen what she's really like. Also, she's so disrespectful. She actually stated that Littlecloud is so old, he should have died long ago. This reminds me theย meeting between Breezepaw and Purdy in Outcast.
I really liked Grassheart's kits, though we didn't get to see much of them.
Tawnypelt is still one of my favourite ShC cats, Dawnpelt was very likable and Tigerheart was a pretty alright character as well.
I do NOT like Spikefur. He snarled at Crowfrost for letting Twigpaw go, he was so quick to turn on Rowanstar and start following Darktail. He said ShC needed new leadership, strong leadershipย and told Rowanstar that he can't come back if he goes to the gathering. Scorchfur was also quick to turn on Rowanstar.
Again, I actually hope that ShadowClan suffers for their actions. This is just going to bring that "ShadowClan are evil" stereotype right back up again and it's going to take a long time for them to live this one down. And now that you've mentioned Sleekwhisker, do you think you could post some of her dialogue that indicates her disbelief in StarClan? |
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Post by Ligerfrost on Sept 3, 2016 18:35:08 GMT -5
I figured I wouldn't like Sleekwhisker or Needletail.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 18:48:47 GMT -5
Those three were mostly in the background, which I was a little saddened by.
I thought that Crowfrost was a pretty good leader figure, though I don't think the rest of ShadowClan agrees. Someone even says right to his face that he is no leader, all just because he let Twigpaw go. I was saddened when he died.
Puddleshine was so cute and kind. I liked him immediately. And he is so devoted to helping his Clanmates. He originally wanted to become a warrior like his littermates, but I think he'll be a pretty great medicine cat. Can't wait to see more of him.
Sleekwhisker was pretty rude and arrogant. You can just tell she doesn't believe in StarClan just from the way she talks. I used to like, but not anymore now that we've seen what she's really like. Also, she's so disrespectful. She actually stated that Littlecloud is so old, he should have died long ago. This reminds me the meeting between Breezepaw and Purdy in Outcast.
I really liked Grassheart's kits, though we didn't get to see much of them.
Tawnypelt is still one of my favourite ShC cats, Dawnpelt was very likable and Tigerheart was a pretty alright character as well.
I do NOT like Spikefur. He snarled at Crowfrost for letting Twigpaw go, he was so quick to turn on Rowanstar and start following Darktail. He said ShC needed new leadership, strong leadership and told Rowanstar that he can't come back if he goes to the gathering. Scorchfur was also quick to turn on Rowanstar.
Again, I actually hope that ShadowClan suffers for their actions. This is just going to bring that "ShadowClan are evil" stereotype right back up again and it's going to take a long time for them to live this one down. And now that you've mentioned Sleekwhisker, do you think you could post some of her dialogue that indicates her disbelief in StarClan? According to Leafpool "Sleekpaw says dead cats are dumb. She says StarClan can't possibly understand the forest anymore. They've been living in their own hunting grounds for too long."
Speaking of which, apparently Beepaw and Yarrowpaw said that they shouldn't bother with StarClan. They even asked why they should they believe in a bunch of cats they've never seen. I wonder if that means they don't believe in StarClan.
Speaking of Yarrowpaw, guess who went through the gender bender? Yarrowpaw went from tom to she-cat.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 19:01:59 GMT -5
How are Juniperclaw and Strikestone in the book?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 19:04:50 GMT -5
No offense but Needletail sounds really Two faced my only friend or not I'd question her motives Does Violetpaw ever question her actions and motives? At all in the book? Violetpaw watched them, her thoughts jumbled. Twigpaw had left; Kinkfur had died; Needletail was no longer her friend. Did I think she would be, after I left her like that? She couldn't forget the flash of pain in Needletail's gaze as she'd spoken about waking up and finding Violetpaw gone.
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Violetpaw glanced at Needletail, who was watching Rowanstar's retreat with satisfaction. It's like I don't even know her, Violetpaw thought. But then she swallowed hard. Except I do. Hadn't Needletail always questioned all the rules of the Clan? It was what had always scared Violetpaw about her--and thrilled her.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 19:14:11 GMT -5
How are Juniperclaw and Strikestone in the book? Juniperclaw was quick to join his sister in joining the rogues. Both him and Strikestone were both shown be troublemaking apprentices who hated the rules. The wanted the elders to respect them, they spoke about how ShadowClan used to be feared among the Clans. Strikestone (as an apprentice) told Rowanstar at one point "We want to choose our own path, not follow the path of other Clans." And about the rogues he said "But we are ShadowClan. With cats like those, we could rule the whole lake!"
And another think he said (to his father that is) was "if you treated us better, we might try harder. Don't forget there are nearly as many of us as there are of you. You'd be wise to give us a little respect."
I'm honestly surprised that he didn't go with his littermates. And we never hear Strikestone talk like this again after he becomes a warrior. Though he did become a little out of focus.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 19:18:43 GMT -5
What happened to the elders? I'd assume they'd follow Rowanstar, Tawnypelt, and Tigerheart. Unless they felt like Dawnpelt.
Also, did any ShadowClan cats appear that weren't listed in the allegiances? I'm just wondering, since I'm curious if the allegiances listed in the book are the full allegiances- at least for ShadowClan.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 19:34:07 GMT -5
How are Juniperclaw and Strikestone in the book? Juniperclaw was quick to join her sister in joining the rogues. Both him and Strikestone were both shown be troublemaking apprentices who hated the rules. The wanted the elders to respect them, they spoke about how ShadowClan used to be feared among the Clans. Strikestone (as an apprentice) told Rowanstar at one point "We want to choose our own path, not follow the path of other Clans." And about the rogues he said "But we are ShadowClan. With cats like those, we could rule the whole lake!"
And another think he said (to his father that is) was "if you treated us better, we might try harder. Don't forget there are nearly as many of us as there are of you. You'd be wise to give us a little respect."
I'm honestly surprised that he didn't go with his littermates. And we never hear Strikestone talk like this again after he becomes a warrior. Though he did become a little out of focus.
Yikes! Strikestone already reminds me of Tigerstar due to the dialogue. It definitely does sound like something he would say, especially with the whole "ruling the lake" thing. Once again, I feel bad for Dawnpelt, especially if her kits are like this. |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 19:48:18 GMT -5
What happened to the elders? I'd assume they'd follow Rowanstar, Tawnypelt, and Tigerheart. Unless they felt like Dawnpelt. Also, did any ShadowClan cats appear that weren't listed in the allegiances? I'm just wondering, since I'm curious if the allegiances listed in the book are the full allegiances- at least for ShadowClan. Kinkfur dies from the sickness that went through ShC. Ratscar and Oakfur stayed behind, though Oakfur was still recovering from the sickness himself.
And nope. Just the cats that were in the allegiances appeared. The only ShC cats that didn't appear in the allegiances but were in the book were Grassheart's kits, Whorlpaw, Flowerpaw and Snakepaw. But they were born in chapter 2. And Dewkit got a mention after Kinkfur died when Crowfrost said she had a kit waiting for her in StarClan.
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Post by Woofzie on Sept 3, 2016 19:57:14 GMT -5
How does Bramblestar and the hole ThunderClan react after what happened with ShC?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 19:58:50 GMT -5
How are Tawnypelt, Dawnpelt, and Bumblestripe in the book?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 20:18:16 GMT -5
Ah man, poor Ratscar and Oakfur. They're toast.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 20:48:33 GMT -5
How does Bramblestar and the hole ThunderClan react after what happened with ShC? "We should have driven them from the edge of our territory moons ago." Rowanstar's shoulders drooped. His anger over the herb seemed to drain from him. Suddenly he looked old, his pelt dull in the moonlight, his ribs showing where the sickness had ravaged him. "They have taken over my Clan."
"What do you mean?" Bramblestar padded along the branch, thrusting his muzzle close as shocked mews rang from the crowd.
Rowanstar met the ThunderClan leader's gaze. "Before we left for the Gathering, the rogues entered our camp."
Mistystar stiffened. "Was there a battle? Are many hurt?"
"There was no battle." Shame glittered in Rowanstar's gaze. "My Clan chose them over me."
"They chose them?" Bramblestar sounded puzzled. "What do you mean?"
"They said that any ShadowClan cat who came here tonight would not be allowed to return to the Clan."
Twigpaw stared at the ShadowClan cats in confusion. But where is Violetpaw? She couldn't have decided to stay among the rogues--could she? Twigpaw felt cold as she watched Rowanstar's paws tremble beneath him. He no longer looked like a leader. He looked like a hungry, frightened loner.
Onestar curled his lips. "I always said ShadowClan was no better than rogues."
Rowanstar glared at him, energy sparking through his pelt suddenly. "That's not true! They have just made a mistake!"
Tigerheart called out from bellow. "The real ShadowClan cats will come to their senses before long and drive the invaders out!"
Tawnypelt stood beside her son, her chin high. "The sickness scared them. They are like frightened kits looking for someone strong to protect them!"
Onestar's tail flicked ominously. "And why didn't they look to Rowanstar? Isn't he strong?"
Rowanstar paws suddenly steadied on the branch. He lifted his head, his shoulders squaring. "I have been sick. Crowfrost has died. For days ShadowClan had no leadership, thanks to you. If you'd given us the herb earlier, this might never have happened."
Murmurs of agreement sounded around Twigpaw. She turned her head, seeing RiverClan and ThunderClan cats nodding. Even some of the WindClan cats were staring accusingly at their leader.
"What's done is done." Bramblestar's mew was calm. "For now Rowanstar, Tawnypelt, and Tigerheart will be welcome in ThunderClan. They can stay until their Clanmates realize their mistake."
Tawnypelt hissed miserably. "If they realize their mistake."
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Ivypool wasn't happy about this. You can guess why.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 3, 2016 20:54:06 GMT -5
How are Tawnypelt, Dawnpelt, and Bumblestripe in the book? Tawnypelt is still pretty friendly toward ThunderClan and she was pretty shocked when Needlepaw announced she was joining the rogues. Dawnpelt is a pretty good mentor toward Violetpaw. Bumblestripe doesn't really appear that much. He mentors one of Lilyheart's kits and at the end of the book he is shown in deep conversation with Dovewing. Tigerheart is not happy. Lol! |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Sept 3, 2016 20:58:29 GMT -5
How are Tawnypelt, Dawnpelt, and Bumblestripe in the book? Tawnypelt is still pretty friendly toward ThunderClan and she was pretty shocked when Needlepaw announced she was joining the rogues. Dawnpelt is a pretty good mentor toward Violetpaw. Bumblestripe doesn't really appear that much. He mentors one of Lilyheart's kits and at the end of the book he is shown in deep conversation with Dovewing. Tigerheart is not happy. Lol! Lol! Speaking of Dovewing, what about her? How is she in the book? |
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