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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Sept 5, 2021 7:00:23 GMT -5
Support them publicly, but disagree with them privately; keep my thoughts to myself.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 5, 2021 18:50:44 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by rookheart on Sept 6, 2021 0:41:53 GMT -5
Love this idea!
I wouldn't directly oppose the decision in front of a gathering, but if it was relayed to me first, I would tell the leader to seek a compromise. Maybe sharing the hunting grounds, or an agreement that they must hunt with our clan's patrols, and share part of their catch. There's strength in unity, and not losing the territory entirely is a good idea. Especially if they get comfortable on the territory after hunting on it for a season. At least with them forced to work with us, they'll remember who's territory they're on.
Being nice to another clan has its undeniable perks, and I wouldn't want to cause any drama at gatherings. All the same, I don't want other clans to see us as pushovers. I would want this generosity to be seen as a strength, that the clan is strong enough it can afford to support more cats. I'd hope that the leader says something like this, but if not, I would like to back my leader and empathize that our clan is strong enough that it can afford to be generous when the other clans aren't as strong.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 6, 2021 10:51:06 GMT -5
Next one up!
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Sept 6, 2021 15:19:33 GMT -5
I'm investigating.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 6, 2021 15:51:57 GMT -5
I'd unite, if the other leader does have ulterior motives, it'd be like 100 against one, we could defeat them.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Sept 6, 2021 16:50:45 GMT -5
Absolutely not, under any circumstances. We can all talk out here (as readers) about how much better it would be if the Clans united and how much less conflict there'd be, but this is their culture. If I'm a ShadowClan cat (for example), I've been raised from birth to believe there are four/five Clans, each with their own unique strengths and abilities which feed into our cultural identity as a Clan. I wouldn't want to share camp with other Clan cats for any longer than a few days. I wouldn't want to share hunting techniques or territory. It would feel like erasing ShadowClan's legacy and identity, and my Clan wouldn't have any unique characteristics anymore, since our traits would be shared by the mega-Clan.
To clarify, this is how I would feel as a Clan cat. I'm not saying anything about my opinions as a human reader.
However, if this was a temporary thing, say like LionClan forming to fight BloodClan, I would likely agree to that. I don't hate the other Clans and I don't mind allying or helping them, but I want my Clan's identity and legacy to live on.
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Post by rookheart on Sept 6, 2021 17:11:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't unite at all, though I'd do some investigation regardless, and say that I'll think about it so the clan leader thinks I might be on their side. As mentioned above, erasing culture (that's technically nonexistent in the books but fanon is honestly cooler, so I'm going to show bias for that) is an unquestionable consequence.
Approaching a vulnerable clan however doesn't give me good vibes though. It's a way to pressure them into a decision, intentional or not.
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 6, 2021 18:21:59 GMT -5
This depends on the level of hardship. If it's been really bad, I can at least see some support for investigating it to keep our cats alive. But if it's not a matter of life and death, then no way.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 7, 2021 15:20:05 GMT -5
Bump
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 8, 2021 10:25:12 GMT -5
Bump
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 9, 2021 8:07:17 GMT -5
Next one up!
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#F4B548
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Dark Sun
Sage of the Stars
I'm devious, I'm devilish, I'm ever so deliciously evil
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Post by Dark Sun on Sept 9, 2021 8:17:10 GMT -5
I would convince my leader that it is my StarClan given right to heal this cat. However, I would request that the rogue disclose why they were hunting on our territory. If it was out of greed or just to cause trouble, I would inform them that I would only heal them if they promised to never hunt on our territory again. (If my leader threatened to have the rogue killed if they broke that pact, then I would deduce, "so be it".) However, provided they were hunting out of desperation, if I happened to know of a prey-rich spot outside of Clan territory, I would direct them towards it, but again, if they promised that they stay clear from our territory from that point forward.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 9, 2021 8:39:18 GMT -5
Scenario 6: I would turn them down. I'd rather our clan remain independent and not be sway by some possible sleezebag that just wants control.
Scenario 7: I'd speak with my leader for a compromise, asking to heal the rogue and make them agree not to come back on our territory, if they do then it's their own fault if they get clawed. However, if my leader is still against it then I'll speak with StarClan afterward, and either heal or ignore them depending on their answer.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 9, 2021 11:05:06 GMT -5
I would convince my leader to let me heal them, and to let them join, we could always use more clanmates, and if they're going to eat our food, they might as well make themselves part of the family.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 9, 2021 11:26:15 GMT -5
Heal them then join then rouges, I don't want to be in the clan if my leader is like this.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Sept 9, 2021 17:16:39 GMT -5
Okay, "sick" and "injured" are two very different things. If this is an injured cat, I'm arguing with my leader that it's my duty to heal all cats, even if they're outside the warrior code. Assuming I have herbs to spare, I'm treating that cat. Plus, if they're injured, they're not putting up much of a fight and they'll leave as soon as they're healed anyway.
However, if they're sick... I'm hesitant to bring them into camp and risk that illness spreading to my Clanmates. I'd give the cat the herbs he needs and that I can spare, but then he's leaving camp (and the territory) immediately. I'd basically back my leader up as long as he's not being cruel.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 10, 2021 15:15:27 GMT -5
Bump
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 11, 2021 11:15:27 GMT -5
Bump
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 12, 2021 7:47:49 GMT -5
Next one up!
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Post by Chicken on Sept 12, 2021 10:54:32 GMT -5
Can my answer be I wouldn't be in a forbidden relationship in the first place? XD I'm joking, okay, real answer. If I'm in a forbidden romance, then obviously, I don't care enough about my clan, if I'm seeking out cats from other clans, I mean, can you REALLY fall for someone after just one meeting without continuing to meet in secret, and putting both clans in danger? Therefore, I'd probably have no qualms against leaving, and even if I did care about my clan, I know my clanmates would never see me the same, and I couldn't live like that, so I'd go with my mate.
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Non-binary
#F4B548
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Dark Sun
Sage of the Stars
I'm devious, I'm devilish, I'm ever so deliciously evil
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Post by Dark Sun on Sept 12, 2021 10:58:47 GMT -5
Okay so if I was in a Clan I would never want to be deputy in the first place. In all seriousness though, I know I'm being lazy, but I'll go with what Scorchfur put above.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Sept 12, 2021 17:15:31 GMT -5
I would look at my life and go "now how the hell did I get in this situation?"
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 12, 2021 17:33:30 GMT -5
Agreed, there are a series of bad decisions you have to make to end up in this one to begin with.
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Non-binary
#F4B548
Name Colour
Dark Sun
Sage of the Stars
I'm devious, I'm devilish, I'm ever so deliciously evil
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Post by Dark Sun on Sept 12, 2021 17:37:00 GMT -5
Agreed, there are a series of bad decisions you have to make to end up in this one to begin with. Yep. At this point your reputation is very much in question and your future potential as a respected leader has pretty much gone down the toilet. You'd might as well get out while the going is still good.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 13, 2021 1:07:33 GMT -5
Personally, I wouldn't be in this situation to start with...
But for the sake of the situation, I'd go with the obvious one and try to convince them to stay. If not I'll most likely formerly step down and leave to go with my mate. I'd rather them not be alone and on their own, and if I loved them enough to break the code, then I should love them enough not to give up on them.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 14, 2021 7:07:21 GMT -5
Bump
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 15, 2021 8:50:32 GMT -5
Next one up!
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