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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 16:53:59 GMT -5
Someone I know got the book. Beware of spoilers, obviously. He won't start it for another hour or two. Here is proof:
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on May 23, 2021 17:01:37 GMT -5
Is that Hardcover or Paperback? I can't tell.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 17:03:59 GMT -5
Already? Cool
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Post by Hollyfall on May 23, 2021 17:06:31 GMT -5
Can't wait for all the Mudclaw vs Onestar discourse it's going to cause
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 17:07:31 GMT -5
Is that Hardcover or Paperback? I can't tell. Hardcover.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on May 23, 2021 17:09:07 GMT -5
Is that Hardcover or Paperback? I can't tell. Hardcover. Oh, cool. I'm expecting my copy of WOC on June 1st, the day of release. *Grabs popcorn, Yo it's Spoiler time!*
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 17:28:12 GMT -5
Update: Spoilers will start in about 20 minutes' time. Use this time period wisely to grab snacks, go to the bathroom or whatever. He will start where the preview left off. Spoiler season full steam ahead!
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 23, 2021 17:45:18 GMT -5
EEEEK I CAN'T WAIT! @juniperclaw YO YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTER IS HERE
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 17:59:07 GMT -5
The story picks up with the Clans moving to their new territories. Ashfoot has already been named deputy off-screen and is giving orders
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 18:03:34 GMT -5
-Ashfoot is getting her orders mixed up like any new deputy would, Mudclaw rolling his eyes
-Cites her as being not much of a deputy
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on May 23, 2021 18:07:43 GMT -5
Is your friend going to post images for you to post on here? Jaysnow
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Post by Hollyfall on May 23, 2021 18:08:09 GMT -5
-Ashfoot is getting her orders mixed up like any new deputy would, Mudclaw rolling his eyes -Cites her as being not much of a deputy Damn, he's being really petty, isn't he? Ashfoot literally just became deputy.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 18:20:36 GMT -5
-Webfoot approaches Onewhisker and Ashfoot about where a space can be cleared for Barkface’s herbs, Onewhisker is unsure/confused and asks Ashfoot and Mudclaw for their opinion, Mudclaw ignores him and leaves the area
-Mudclaw questions going back to apprentice duties and starts helping the apprentices dislodge a tree
-Mudclaw is telling cats who ask him questions that it’s not his decision anymore as he is no longer deputy.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 18:26:33 GMT -5
He's petty as hell
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Post by Aqua on May 23, 2021 18:36:48 GMT -5
Yeahhhh, considering how he acted with Onewhisker and tried to get his supporters to turn on him, I'm not surprised Mudclaw is petty about Ashfoot. Big shock here. (Sarcasm) I never liked Mudclaw from the start.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 18:43:45 GMT -5
-Helping the apprentices makes his teeth grind but according to him he can’t let that show bcuz he is still senior warrior and his duty is to protect WC
-He and Tornear are later lying on the grass side by side watching the stars, Tornear brings up hunting but Mudclaw changes the subject to Onewhisker getting his 9 lives. Tornear sympathizes but says that if Tallstar made Onewhisker deputy that makes him leader. Mudclaw says that as littermates he is supposed to support him. Tornear says he does, but following Talkstar’s orders is what is best for all of them. Webfoot and I think Nightcloud? pass by and overhear the conversation, and Webfoot tells Tornear he is wrong. The black cat w yellow eyes next to him who I think is Nightcloud says that until StarClan chooses to give Onewhisker 9 lives he isn’t their leader
-Morningflower and another cat get bellyaches, Barkface speculates it is due to crow-food, Morningflower tells him not to be a mouse-brain as they are old enough to know better. Barkface tells Onewhisker that he’ll go to the horseplace to get Juniper berries. Mudclaw says that a med cat shouldn’t wander the new territory by himself due to foxes/badgers and orders that he will go w him before doubling back and says that he will volunteer to go, if it’s okay w Onewhisker, who says it’s an excellent idea
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on May 23, 2021 18:45:38 GMT -5
I'm not surprised, but Mudclaw being petty could be either entertaining or annoying. I liked that his relationship with Tornear is being explored a bit, though.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 18:47:26 GMT -5
(Little sidenote here, it's a really windy day where I am- yes, quite unusual for late May- and it's very fitting for the book's title.)
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 19:01:00 GMT -5
-They find berries, both agree the berries are pathetic. As they pick it up, they encounter a dog, Barkface climbs up a tree while Mudclaw easily defeats it. On the way back, Mudclaw asks Barkface if he knows for certain of StarClan came w them to the lake, as what if leaders can never get 9 lives again. Barkface tells him to have faith. Webfoot approaches them and tells Mudclaw that Leafpaw is in the camp and that is sounds like they have the same sickness in TC and that she brought herbs for the sick elders (Morningflower and Darkfoot). Mudclaw does not look pleased with this news. Tornear is telling Onewhisker that they ran into her and Thornclaw hunting on WC territory, as if it’s not bad enough she is in their camp. Onewhisker tells them they don’t need to overreact as none of the boundaries have been fully marked yet. This is what Mudclaw was afraid of as how a new leader handles conflict is a mark of his strength and Onewhisker is botching it. Onewhisker thanks Leafpaw for her help. He tells Leafpaw that TC can have the boundary in the woods Thornclaw and Tornear were having a dispute about. Mudclaw yells at him asking if he is completely mouse brained, giving away territory for couple of healing herbs. Onewhisker is like “look at everything TC has done for us..” Webfoot supports Mudclaw but Onewhisker refuses to hear more. Mudclaw calls him a traitor.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 19:03:27 GMT -5
Yikes. This is where the debating begins folks
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 19:12:00 GMT -5
-Mudclaw reflects that it is a good thing Onewhisker didn’t try to stop him when he walked away after calling him a traitor as he might have gone for his throat. Mudclaw refuses to believe that StarClan wanted WC to be rolling over for TC, showing them their bellies. Meanwhile, Onewhisker orders Crowfeather to make sure Leafpool gets back to TC safely. Mudclaw questions if Onewhisker is the leader of WC or if Firestar is Onewhisker’s leader. Mudclaw approaches Onewhisker and desperately begs him to not give away territory. Onewhisker says that setting up good relationships with the Clans is what is more important than few lengths of woodland. Mudclaw walks away and asks Tornear if he really thinks Onewhisker is meant to be leader, as only a traitor would give away their territory to another Clan.
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Post by Rainsplash on May 23, 2021 19:24:09 GMT -5
Whoa
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 23, 2021 19:33:48 GMT -5
me, a mudclaw loyalist: YEAH! tell onejerk who's right, mudclaw!
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 19:35:34 GMT -5
-At the Gathering, Mudclaw spots Onewhisker with “his best friend” Firestar. He reflects how he never trusted TC and that he never will. Mudclaw says that they need a better place to meet for Gatherings as the current place is too close to Twolegs territory. He sees the other cats mingling without a care in the world, silently calling them mouse brains. Hawkfrost greets him and tells him he has been hearing rumors about trouble in WC, that Onewhisker gave away territory to TC. Mudclaw replies by telling him he doesn’t see how that is any of RC’s business. Hawkfrost tells him how he is Tigerstar’s son and that even though he never knew him he heard how he got control over both RC and ShC before trying to rule the whole forest, and tells Mudclaw that this means that it isn’t safe for one cat to lead more than one Clan and that there has to be a balance. Mudclaw curls his lip and says that no cat from another Clan will ever lead WC. Hawkfrost says that he wouldn’t be so sure and that something might happen in the future. Hawkfrost tells Mudclaw that when he becomes WC leader he will need allies. Hawkfrost walks away before telling him to think about what he said. Mudclaw says that what Hawkfrost said is one more thing to make him feel he has a belly full of crow-food. Onewhisker jumps on the stump w the other leaders but loses his balance and falls on the ground. Blackstar tells him to stay down there as they must get on w the Gathering. Squirrelflight comments on how it looks like he isn’t a proper leader. Mudclaw doesn’t bother listening to the leaders’ news and muses over if Hawkfrost is right and if Firestar is just using Onewhisker to take control of WC. Firestar gets off the stump to let Onewhisker give his share of news. A cat asks him to speak up and Mudclaw defends him, as no matter what he thinks of Onewhisker, no cat from another Clan will disrespect WC. Onewhisker thanks TC for their help, to Mudclaw’s disgust.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 20:03:28 GMT -5
Mudclaw questions if Hawkfrost is right and if it’s all Firestar’s plan. Dustpelt spots foxes approaching them. Under Hawkfrost’s command, they round on the foxes, who flee. Mudclaw notes how Hawkfrost didn’t hesitate and seemed fearless, which he cites as being a good quality to have as long as it’s tempered w wisdom. Blackstar suggests they end the Gathering. Hawkfrost approaches Mudclaw as he is leaving and asks him if he could meet him on the island tomorrow at moonhigh as they should talk. Mudclaw agrees.
Later, Ashfoot sees Mudclaw leave camp, who says that he is just going for a walk to clear his head. Mudclaw approaches the island and mentions how he isn’t a good swimmer and never has been and that whatever Hawkfrost wants to talk about better be worth it. The trees on the island remind Mudclaw of the old forest but that doesn’t make him any less cautious of Hawkfrost. Hawkfrost says that this is as private a place as can be found around here and tells him the he has figured out what has been going on between Firestar and Onewhisker and that he bets Mudclaw has too. Hawkfrost says that Firestar is trying to get both WC and TC under his control and that once he dies, no doubt he will go after RC and ShC as well, especially after Onewhisker has his 9 lives. Mudclaw says that even though he doesn’t like the situation anymore than he does, it is hard for him to believe Onewhisker would actually lie about this. Hawkfrost tells Mudclaw not to think Onewhisker is lying to him, but that *Firestar* is lying to him. He continues by saying that it’s obvious that Firestar already has Onewhisker and Brambleclaw under his paw and asks if either of them lie unless Firestar forced them too. He tells Mudclaw that Brambleclaw would be a better leader than Firestar once he is free of Firestar’s influence. Mudclaw reflects that what Hawkfrost says makes sense but he still can’t forget that Brambleclaw is Hawkfrost’s brother either. Hawkfrost says that until the med cats can find out how to reach StarClan, he and Mudclaw still have time. Time to find allies as there are plenty of cats who won’t want Firestar to have power. Mudclaw tells Hawkfrost that he is not telling him everything and asks him what he is really planning. Hawkfrost replies by saying when Mudclaw names his future deputy in WC, he hopes he remembers who his friends really are. Mudclaw isn’t sure whether or not he means he wants to be WC deputy while also being RC leader.
Mudclaw replies by telling him he makes good points and that if action is needed to be taken, he knows to take his help.
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Post by *Faith* on May 23, 2021 20:04:48 GMT -5
-Morningflower and another cat get bellyaches, Barkface speculates it is due to crow-food, Morningflower tells him not to be a mouse-brain as they are old enough to know better. Barkface tells Onewhisker that he’ll go to the horseplace to get Juniper berries. Mudclaw says that a med cat shouldn’t wander the new territory by himself due to foxes/badgers and orders that he will go w him before doubling back and says that he will volunteer to go, if it’s okay w Onewhisker, who says it’s an excellent idea Looking on the wiki, my best guess is that the other elder is Darkfoot who also had a bellyache. He also doesn't have a description, so if this is him then we would finally know what he looks like. Like with Marshkit earlier.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 20:16:14 GMT -5
Hawkfrost’s words echo in Mudclaw’s head all night and he shares them w cats he trusts, telling them to think about who stands to gain if Onewhisker is made WC leader instead of him. They hear Onewhisker, Ashfoot and Barkface discussing whether or not to mark their borders yet. Onewhisker decides to have them marked, choosing to not mind what Firestar said. Mudclaw asks the group of cats how certain they are that Tallstar chose him and that it wasn’t just what Firestar told them. Crowfeather says he doesn’t like Mudclaw’s words or thoughts and that he wants no part of what he is planning. Webfoot tells Mudclaw to not mind him and asks Mudclaw to tell them more.
Tornear later tells Mudclaw to be careful as Clanmates turning on each other is the absolute worst thing for the Clan. Mudclaw refuses and says the absolute worst thing is to have a leader they can’t trust.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on May 23, 2021 20:49:40 GMT -5
I mean, what Onestar became was bad, but it's clear that he tried to be a good leader at first and even tried to get Mudclaw's opinion on things. Mudclaw seems like a jerk to me still
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Post by Jaysnow on May 23, 2021 20:54:09 GMT -5
Onewhisker asks Mudclaw to show Weaselpaw and Owlpaw battle moves in case the foxes return, Mudclaw asks why, as they have their own mentors. Onewhisker says that Mudclaw is the best fighter in WC. Mudclaw replies w “maybe later”. Onewhisker tells him to do it *now* and that it is an order. Mudclaw reflects how he can’t disobey a direct order in front of the whole Clan...yet. He trains the apprentices. He tells Weaselpaw to imagine him fighting a big TC tom...like *Firestar*. Onewhisker intervenes and says they aren’t practicing to fight Firestar and TC, but foxes. Mudclaw says that fighting foxes is important but it’s also important for them to be ready to fight other Clans. Onewhisker refuses and calls off the training session. Mudclaw asks Tornear if he now sees why he is worried. Tornear responds that he does.
Mudclaw goes on ShC territory and locates and approaches Cedarheart. He tells Cedarheart that after Tigerstar, he and the rest of ShC know how dangerous it is for one cat to have too much power and that there are some things he needs to know about Firestar and Onewhisker, things that Mudclaw think Cedarheart will want to hear.
Mudclaw later has pains in his belly. He spots a fox (in the camp?) and he wonders if it is possible that something that seems bad, not just bad, awful, can be done for good reasons. If it’s for the good of WC. He wonders if something awful could in truth be the right thing to do. He wonders if it would be simpler and better if the fox, now right behind Onewhisker, simply killed Onewhisker. Tornear alerts the Clan about the fox and the warriors all round on it and attack and the fox flees. Tornear asks Mudclaw why in StarClan’s name he didn’t alert them about the fox and why he didn’t attack and asks him if “he surely wasn’t thinking about....”, Mudclaw says, “I - well - everything just happened so fast”. Tornear is like, “Don’t tell me you’d let a fox kill a Clanmate” and asks him if he is jealous of Onewhisker. Mudclaw tells him that he never would’ve meant for Onewhisker to get hurt and that it’s not jealousy, it’s that Onewhisker is bad for the Clan and that Tornear must see that. Tornear says he has heard enough and that he won’t accuse him in front of the Clan but that from now on he doesn’t want to hear anything else about Onewhisker. And to leave him out of his problems.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on May 23, 2021 21:02:26 GMT -5
Mudclaw already sucked, but now he just sucks more. Good on Tornear for standing his ground!
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