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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 27, 2021 20:34:47 GMT -5
CrystalColors and MoodleDoodle started it
I think CC is 17-18? I think Moodle is a minor, though I'm not sure of age. In other words, they're dumb, impulsive teenagers being dumb, impulsive teenagers.
You can tell this forum seems to be made up of people 20+ because the attitude is so different than the Youtube community - which is full of minors.
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 27, 2021 21:58:56 GMT -5
CrystalColors and MoodleDoodle started it I think CC is 17-18? I think Moodle is a minor, though I'm not sure of age. In other words, they're dumb, impulsive teenagers being dumb, impulsive teenagers. You can tell this forum seems to be made up of people 20+ because the attitude is so different than the Youtube community - which is full of minors. Exactly. Moodle is 15, I think? Not sure though, but they’re young. And as far as I know, neither of them are of Egyptian descent so I don’t know why they’re getting offended for Egyptian people. Their actions here can’t help but remind me of how Draikinator acted a few years ago. They would send their fans to crap on certain creators over petty things. Younger people tend to act like this probably because they’re bored and want to stir drama. Absolutely pitiful. Older fans tend to be more mature and have less time on their hands. I used to like both artists, but I recently unsubscribed to both of them. They also hated on Maltose Cat for posting NSFW on her NSFW account. Like... it’s a NSFW account for a reason? If you don’t like it or if you’re a minor, just avoid it. Simple. She was accused of being a zoophiliac for it. A lot of misinformation and fake screenshots spread. I also remember CC getting on someone’s case for hosting a Hawkfrost x Ivypool MAP that focuses on why the ship is unhealthy and why it wouldn’t work out, but she took it the wrong way. People just have way too much time on their hands.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 27, 2021 22:11:34 GMT -5
CrystalColors and MoodleDoodle started it I think CC is 17-18? I think Moodle is a minor, though I'm not sure of age. In other words, they're dumb, impulsive teenagers being dumb, impulsive teenagers. You can tell this forum seems to be made up of people 20+ because the attitude is so different than the Youtube community - which is full of minors. Exactly. Moodle is 15, I think? Not sure though, but they’re young. And as far as I know, neither of them are of Egyptian descent so I don’t know why they’re getting offended for Egyptian people. Their actions here can’t help but remind me of how Draikinator acted a few years ago. They would send their fans to crap on certain creators over petty things. Younger people tend to act like this probably because they’re bored and want to stir drama. Absolutely pitiful. Older fans tend to be more mature and have less time on their hands. I used to like both artists, but I recently unsubscribed to both of them. They also hated on Maltose Cat for posting NSFW on her NSFW account. Like... it’s a NSFW account for a reason? If you don’t like it or if you’re a minor, just avoid it. Simple. She was accused of being a zoophiliac for it. A lot of misinformation and fake screenshots spread. I also remember CC getting on someone’s case for hosting a Hawkfrost x Ivypool MAP that focuses on why the ship is unhealthy and why it wouldn’t work out, but she took it the wrong way. People just have way too much time on their hands. The IvyHawk was Northflower, another large creator. They probably don't have jobs or anything but high school to deal with so they have too much time on their hands. Hopefully they'll grow up and mature, but it's not likely for now with all the yes men around them
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 22:15:08 GMT -5
This is why I don't interact with the fandom other than one RP server and here. And even the forums can be exhausting AF lol. Why are people always starting shit, especially on YT? Just draw ya cats damn
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Post by whiteflight on Apr 27, 2021 23:24:16 GMT -5
Oh man, I hope that person is alright or hopefully is ignoring the hateful comments and death threats. This reminds me of what happened to a death battle animation. It was a Frisk vs Sakuya death battle and just because the person animating the video made Sakuya win (from accurate results) all of the people who wanted Frisk to win started attacking the guy doing the same thing. I know death battle video always gets toxic people but in a Warriors video!? Man I am shocked and I really hope everything goes well soon or that people will stop saying all of those things.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 27, 2021 23:38:15 GMT -5
Exactly. Moodle is 15, I think? Not sure though, but they’re young. And as far as I know, neither of them are of Egyptian descent so I don’t know why they’re getting offended for Egyptian people. Their actions here can’t help but remind me of how Draikinator acted a few years ago. They would send their fans to crap on certain creators over petty things. Younger people tend to act like this probably because they’re bored and want to stir drama. Absolutely pitiful. Older fans tend to be more mature and have less time on their hands. I used to like both artists, but I recently unsubscribed to both of them. They also hated on Maltose Cat for posting NSFW on her NSFW account. Like... it’s a NSFW account for a reason? If you don’t like it or if you’re a minor, just avoid it. Simple. She was accused of being a zoophiliac for it. A lot of misinformation and fake screenshots spread. I also remember CC getting on someone’s case for hosting a Hawkfrost x Ivypool MAP that focuses on why the ship is unhealthy and why it wouldn’t work out, but she took it the wrong way. People just have way too much time on their hands. The IvyHawk was Northflower, another large creator. They probably don't have jobs or anything but high school to deal with so they have too much time on their hands. Hopefully they'll grow up and mature, but it's not likely for now with all the yes men around them Even if it was to show that the ship was unhealthy, I don't think people realize you can still ship unhealthy ships and be aware they're unhealthy. Not everyone wants fluffy pairings that are absolutely predictable or boring. It annoys me that people who like unhealthy fictional ships get witch hunted for it.
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Post by finland on Apr 28, 2021 10:10:47 GMT -5
People are just blindly following creators they look up to. It’s disgusting honestly. CrystalColors and MoodleDoodle fans strike again. I will never forgive them for trying to “cancel” Crowla for that South Park MAP. It’s literally a white savior complex. I’m white so I have no say in this, but I haven’t seen a single person offended by it who is Egyptian yet. Ah, I never was big on CC's attitude, I wasn't sure why, couldn't put my finger on it, but now I guess I was kinda right. I never knew about the whole Crowla situation... CC has blacklisted the host of the Cleopatra MAP in a Tweet.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 28, 2021 10:36:33 GMT -5
screaming at people for making negligible mistakes regarding accuracy to a culture is just gonna make those people never want to talk about, express appreciation, or go near that culture ever again.
"cultural appropriation" is often just a manner of gatekeeping these days. i saw something on snap today (penned by a white person) that said its cultural appropriation and racist to use reaction gifs of black people if you aren't black yourself.
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 28, 2021 10:42:43 GMT -5
Went through CrystalCat’s twitter, and I can already tell she needs to grow the hell up and stop instigating death threats and viciousness towards a child on a subject she is clearly just as uneducated in. It’s child on child violence at this point, jfc, and yet the 14 year old is acting more mature than the 17 year old. It’s sad. If I wanted this level of a lack of cultural, historical and social education, I’d go sit in in a 2nd grade class back at my old Elementary School.
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Post by fishbreeze on Apr 28, 2021 10:45:29 GMT -5
screaming at people for making negligible mistakes regarding accuracy to a culture is just gonna make those people never want to talk about, express appreciation, or go near that culture ever again. "cultural appropriation" is often just a manner of gatekeeping these days. i saw something on snap today (penned by a white person) that said its cultural appropriation and racist to use reaction gifs of black people if you aren't black yourself. Yeah, I really don't understand this. Everyone is the same, but if you for example make crepes, you're appropriating french culture, so like if you demonize people for doing things from another culture, and if you keep them out, then how can we ever really be the same? This is all just putting more divides imho. I can understand that some peoples culture is very important to them, and a strong part of who they are, but to hate on anyone else who tries to enjoy it, while saying everyone is the same? I don't understand. Another thing I don't understand, is how they expect someone from russia of all places to have the same mindset as them. Not everyone is going to know what all is offensive and what isn't. Yes, there were some people who told her that it was, but judging from some of the comments I saw, I'm going to bet that none of them telling her that, were very nice, and who wants to listen to hostility? Perhaps she could have done more research, but she's a child who just wanted to make a warrior cats map, it's not like she set out with the intent of offending anyone. Another thing, is that a lot of egyptians don't even have a problem with this map, yet you have non-egyptian people trying to tell them why it's offensive and how they should feel about it. Okay... Another thing that annoys me is the high and mighty people, who try to preach to other people about not being offensive, yet at the same time, they send death threats to their fellow person. If you care about people, wouldn't that mean everyone? Like, you can't say you care about the wellbeing of others, and then send death threats to a child, like are you thick? I'm sorry saint ambrosef, I forgot that this was a reply to your post when I went off on a tangent. Just know that the majority of this isn't directed at you, and I agree with your post.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 28, 2021 15:38:52 GMT -5
screaming at people for making negligible mistakes regarding accuracy to a culture is just gonna make those people never want to talk about, express appreciation, or go near that culture ever again. "cultural appropriation" is often just a manner of gatekeeping these days. i saw something on snap today (penned by a white person) that said its cultural appropriation and racist to use reaction gifs of black people if you aren't black yourself. Yeah, I really don't understand this. Everyone is the same, but if you for example make crepes, you're appropriating french culture, so like if you demonize people for doing things from another culture, and if you keep them out, then how can we ever really be the same? This is all just putting more divides imho. I can understand that some peoples culture is very important to them, and a strong part of who they are, but to hate on anyone else who tries to enjoy it, while saying everyone is the same? I don't understand. Another thing I don't understand, is how they expect someone from russia of all places to have the same mindset as them. Not everyone is going to know what all is offensive and what isn't. Yes, there were some people who told her that it was, but judging from some of the comments I saw, I'm going to bet that none of them telling her that, were very nice, and who wants to listen to hostility? Perhaps she could have done more research, but she's a child who just wanted to make a warrior cats map, it's not like she set out with the intent of offending anyone. Another thing, is that a lot of egyptians don't even have a problem with this map, yet you have non-egyptian people trying to tell them why it's offensive and how they should feel about it. Okay... Another thing that annoys me is the high and mighty people, who try to preach to other people about not being offensive, yet at the same time, they send death threats to their fellow person. If you care about people, wouldn't that mean everyone? Like, you can't say you care about the wellbeing of others, and then send death threats to a child, like are you thick? I'm sorry saint ambrosef, I forgot that this was a reply to your post when I went off on a tangent. Just know that the majority of this isn't directed at you, and I agree with your post. dont worry i go on tangents all the time too lol i can definitely understanding having aspects of your culture that hold heavy meaning, either because they're tied to religion, tragic history, or a place of honor in that society. and it makes sense to say, "hey, please avoid messing with xyz because its easy for someone not in our culture to misunderstand or misrepresent it to others, and we want it treated with absolute respect". it becomes gatekeeping when someone says, "solely because this originated from my culture, no one outside it is ever allowed to participate in/talk about/use it", as if the mere act of a white person engaging in a culture outside their own is somehow degrading it (not because of what 'it' is but because of who is doing it). cultural sensitivity is just about respect.
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Post by fishbreeze on Apr 28, 2021 15:46:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I really don't understand this. Everyone is the same, but if you for example make crepes, you're appropriating french culture, so like if you demonize people for doing things from another culture, and if you keep them out, then how can we ever really be the same? This is all just putting more divides imho. I can understand that some peoples culture is very important to them, and a strong part of who they are, but to hate on anyone else who tries to enjoy it, while saying everyone is the same? I don't understand. Another thing I don't understand, is how they expect someone from russia of all places to have the same mindset as them. Not everyone is going to know what all is offensive and what isn't. Yes, there were some people who told her that it was, but judging from some of the comments I saw, I'm going to bet that none of them telling her that, were very nice, and who wants to listen to hostility? Perhaps she could have done more research, but she's a child who just wanted to make a warrior cats map, it's not like she set out with the intent of offending anyone. Another thing, is that a lot of egyptians don't even have a problem with this map, yet you have non-egyptian people trying to tell them why it's offensive and how they should feel about it. Okay... Another thing that annoys me is the high and mighty people, who try to preach to other people about not being offensive, yet at the same time, they send death threats to their fellow person. If you care about people, wouldn't that mean everyone? Like, you can't say you care about the wellbeing of others, and then send death threats to a child, like are you thick? I'm sorry saint ambrosef, I forgot that this was a reply to your post when I went off on a tangent. Just know that the majority of this isn't directed at you, and I agree with your post. dont worry i go on tangents all the time too lol i can definitely understanding having aspects of your culture that hold heavy meaning, either because they're tied to religion, tragic history, or a place of honor in that society. and it makes sense to say, "hey, please avoid messing with xyz because its easy for someone not in our culture to misunderstand or misrepresent it to others, and we want it treated with absolute respect". it becomes gatekeeping when someone says, "solely because this originated from my culture, no one outside it is ever allowed to participate in/talk about/use it", as if the mere act of a white person engaging in a culture outside their own is somehow degrading it (not because of what 'it' is but because of who is doing it). cultural sensitivity is just about respect. Yeah, I understand that, and I agree that cultures should be respected, but a lot of the times, when I see someone talking about culture appropriation, it's over someone not trying to be offensive, and I understand that some people see things as offensive that other people don't, but it seems that most of the people getting upset aren't even from that culture. I just feel that everyone should be treated the same, and there should be less divides between everyone. I'm also not trying to say that people should erase their culture, and people should forget everything they went through, I just want people to not see like cultures, traditions, etc, I just want them to see people.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 28, 2021 17:12:35 GMT -5
At some point in 2021, learning a new language is going to be "cultural appropriation..." I swear when trying to break down divides and not offend people, people going to the extreme with this will do just that.
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Post by fishbreeze on Apr 28, 2021 17:20:05 GMT -5
At some point in 2021, learning a new language is going to be "cultural appropriation..." I swear when trying to break down divides and not offend people, people going to the extreme with this will do just that. I have questions. If I already basically know english as a second language, can I still speak english, or can I only speak my native language?
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 28, 2021 17:24:02 GMT -5
At some point in 2021, learning a new language is going to be "cultural appropriation..." I swear when trying to break down divides and not offend people, people going to the extreme with this will do just that. I have questions. If I already basically know english as a second language, can I still speak english, or can I only speak my native language? Umm... I believe it only applies to native English speakers learning a language other than English. Bonus points if you're from the USA, because it's the only country where I've seen this culture war insanity coming from.
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Post by fishbreeze on Apr 28, 2021 17:39:16 GMT -5
I have questions. If I already basically know english as a second language, can I still speak english, or can I only speak my native language? Umm... I believe it only applies to native English speakers learning a language other than English. Bonus points if you're from the USA, because it's the only country where I've seen this culture war insanity coming from. Yeah, it seems that way to me as well, my friends and I all love sharing our language, food, etc, with people. It makes me feel like they care and are interested, and I don't want people's reactions to scare them away. I know I can't speak for everyone, but that's just how I feel about it.
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Post by halogen on Apr 28, 2021 22:59:19 GMT -5
Plus, if you aren't allowed to interact with or do anything related to a culture that you aren't from, but that doesn't apply to white European culture because of colonization and such meaning everyone's already involved in it, doesn't that lead to a situation where white European culture is the only "universal" culture that all of humanity can enjoy and find meaning in, and every other culture is just a niche thing only relevant to a specific subset of people? When you put it that way, it makes it sound way more racist than the actions it's trying to stop (bar the extreme cases where it is something of a religious, etc. meaning to said culture that's being treated flippantly, or outright mocking a culture)
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Post by downfalls on Apr 29, 2021 13:41:28 GMT -5
Same. And that's not cultural appropriation??? It's just an Egyptian-themed battle cat MAP. When will people calm down?
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Post by MadameDelune on Apr 29, 2021 14:12:27 GMT -5
Oop- maltose cat just thanked me on Twitter that’s nice I didn’t expect that lmao
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 29, 2021 14:30:48 GMT -5
Just took a look at both Twitter accounts of CrystalColors as well as MoodleDoodle and it seems like there are finally some people calling them out for sicking their fans on a literal child who also doesn't even ship ThistleSpotted, which apparently was something they both thought due to Kulta being a fan of Thistleclaw.
Here's a friendly reminder that liking a character doesn't mean excusing all or any problematic behaviours they might exhibit. While I personally cannot bring myself to even try liking Thistleclaw after what Spottedleaf's Heart turned him into, I will not immediately think the worst about someone for still liking him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 14:33:59 GMT -5
Who are these people lmao
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Post by Aqua on Apr 29, 2021 14:44:43 GMT -5
Who are these people lmao Is it bad that I read that with Patrick's voice from Spongebob?
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Apr 29, 2021 15:18:05 GMT -5
Wow. Just...wow.
These kids need less time on the internet. Death threats are not okay. : P
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 29, 2021 15:35:55 GMT -5
Just took a look at both Twitter accounts of CrystalColors as well as MoodleDoodle and it seems like there are finally some people calling them out for sicking their fans on a literal child who also doesn't even ship ThistleSpotted, which apparently was something they both thought due to Kulta being a fan of Thistleclaw. Here's a friendly reminder that liking a character doesn't mean excusing all or any problematic behaviours they might exhibit. While I personally cannot bring myself to even try liking Thistleclaw after what Spottedleaf's Heart turned him into, I will not immediately think the worst about someone for still liking him. Except CC on Twitter acting like she’s innocent and saying she only posted one comment when the reality is that her and Moodle called her out on both Twitter and apparently in the discord - telling people to dislike the video This is why I don’t deal with teens
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Apr 29, 2021 15:47:22 GMT -5
Just gotta say I LOVE that video, so thank you for sharing it. I showed it to my friend and they also say it's one of the best Warriors AMVs they've ever seen
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Post by Apricity on Apr 29, 2021 16:57:04 GMT -5
Just took a look at both Twitter accounts of CrystalColors as well as MoodleDoodle and it seems like there are finally some people calling them out for sicking their fans on a literal child who also doesn't even ship ThistleSpotted, which apparently was something they both thought due to Kulta being a fan of Thistleclaw. Here's a friendly reminder that liking a character doesn't mean excusing all or any problematic behaviours they might exhibit. While I personally cannot bring myself to even try liking Thistleclaw after what Spottedleaf's Heart turned him into, I will not immediately think the worst about someone for still liking him. I believe they say that cause Kulta had a Thistleclaw map with "Every Day a Little Death" and Spottedleaf sings the female part. But this was a couple years ago and I've seen people say Kulta since realized how bad it is and changed their opinion. I don't know myself, but the map is unlisted.
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Post by Aqua on Apr 29, 2021 16:57:45 GMT -5
Just took a look at both Twitter accounts of CrystalColors as well as MoodleDoodle and it seems like there are finally some people calling them out for sicking their fans on a literal child who also doesn't even ship ThistleSpotted, which apparently was something they both thought due to Kulta being a fan of Thistleclaw. Here's a friendly reminder that liking a character doesn't mean excusing all or any problematic behaviours they might exhibit. While I personally cannot bring myself to even try liking Thistleclaw after what Spottedleaf's Heart turned him into, I will not immediately think the worst about someone for still liking him. Except CC on Twitter acting like she’s innocent and saying she only posted one comment when the reality is that her and Moodle called her out on both Twitter and apparently in the discord - telling people to dislike the video This is why I don’t deal with teens I'm a little disappointed to hear about this. About half a year ago, I saw a lot of drama happening between Moodledoodle and Tangy. Apparently Moodle cheated on Tangy and kept saying nasty stuff to her and her friend, and Tangy called Moodle out with her popularity and was "warning" them about Moodle. A lot of people were sending Moodle death threats to her, making mock accounts about her, and doing all these terrible things to Moodle. You'd think Moodle learned from this and I really thought she did because she's very friendly when I talk to her, so it's disappointing to hear she's doing something similar to yet another child. I called Moodle out and told her she should remember how this situation feels since she's been through a similar case that I haven't forgotten, but she didn't reply. Kind of disappointed. Really am. I liked Moodle.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 29, 2021 18:45:04 GMT -5
Except CC on Twitter acting like she’s innocent and saying she only posted one comment when the reality is that her and Moodle called her out on both Twitter and apparently in the discord - telling people to dislike the video This is why I don’t deal with teens I'm a little disappointed to hear about this. About half a year ago, I saw a lot of drama happening between Moodledoodle and Tangy. Apparently Moodle cheated on Tangy and kept saying nasty stuff to her and her friend, and Tangy called Moodle out with her popularity and was "warning" them about Moodle. A lot of people were sending Moodle death threats to her, making mock accounts about her, and doing all these terrible things to Moodle. You'd think Moodle learned from this and I really thought she did because she's very friendly when I talk to her, so it's disappointing to hear she's doing something similar to yet another child. I called Moodle out and told her she should remember how this situation feels since she's been through a similar case that I haven't forgotten, but she didn't reply. Kind of disappointed. Really am. I liked Moodle. And CC dealt with Draikinator using their fans to attack people. They're both children and are obviously acting impulsively without deep thought. I wish actual children didn't get this big of platforms because they so often get misused. The worst thing is that they TOLD THEIR FANS TO DOWNVOTE THE VIDEO AND INFORM THEM. The creator is 14. Moodle is 16? CC is 17? It's pretty much teenage bullies bullying a younger teen. It's gross.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 29, 2021 18:46:27 GMT -5
Just took a look at both Twitter accounts of CrystalColors as well as MoodleDoodle and it seems like there are finally some people calling them out for sicking their fans on a literal child who also doesn't even ship ThistleSpotted, which apparently was something they both thought due to Kulta being a fan of Thistleclaw. Here's a friendly reminder that liking a character doesn't mean excusing all or any problematic behaviours they might exhibit. While I personally cannot bring myself to even try liking Thistleclaw after what Spottedleaf's Heart turned him into, I will not immediately think the worst about someone for still liking him. I believe they say that cause Kulta had a Thistleclaw map with "Every Day a Little Death" and Spottedleaf sings the female part. But this was a couple years ago and I've seen people say Kulta since realized how bad it is and changed their opinion. I don't know myself, but the map is unlisted. Having Spottedleaf sing the female part was definitely a bad choice, but kids don't really understand the concept of grooming very well. That said, I've seen the MAP and the Thistle part focuses on his love for Snowfur, so it's not even really shipping them
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 29, 2021 20:39:49 GMT -5
Except CC on Twitter acting like she’s innocent and saying she only posted one comment when the reality is that her and Moodle called her out on both Twitter and apparently in the discord - telling people to dislike the video This is why I don’t deal with teens I'm a little disappointed to hear about this. About half a year ago, I saw a lot of drama happening between Moodledoodle and Tangy. Apparently Moodle cheated on Tangy and kept saying nasty stuff to her and her friend, and Tangy called Moodle out with her popularity and was "warning" them about Moodle. A lot of people were sending Moodle death threats to her, making mock accounts about her, and doing all these terrible things to Moodle. You'd think Moodle learned from this and I really thought she did because she's very friendly when I talk to her, so it's disappointing to hear she's doing something similar to yet another child. I called Moodle out and told her she should remember how this situation feels since she's been through a similar case that I haven't forgotten, but she didn't reply. Kind of disappointed. Really am. I liked Moodle. Moodle’s pronouns are they/them btw!!
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