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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 13:36:54 GMT -5
Short descriptions with icons are not the best idea. People never crop them right. I don't think we should do long at all, because spoiler tags mess up the coding. I'm not sure on personality traits being required in the forms if they're short? The form could get blocky but we'll see?
Edit: Thinking about it, it could work if it's all centered.
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 11, 2020 13:41:48 GMT -5
Yeah I think basic book like descriptions are the best option here, especially since it’ll be easier to maintain on a big thread and stuff like that
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 11, 2020 15:32:40 GMT -5
Agreed, short descriptions are better. I don’t think there are many times when a super-long description is really necessary, and it just takes up too much space.
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 16:00:54 GMT -5
I agree that we should do short descriptions like Snooze suggested. I think people can include personality traits if they’d like to? Maybe that could be an optional thing. I like the idea of having them. As for images, people can use them in their roleplay profiles and posts. Adding them to BBCode is a pain in the ass.
Since everyone seems to agree on the description thing, we could come up with a form idea?
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 16:08:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind the personality traits being optional. I know some folks don't like them.
like the format? One question: joining, is there going to be one huge joining page for all five clans? I cant remember if that has been mentioned or not.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 16:35:09 GMT -5
name | age [ negative & neutral & positive ] short description tag How I was thinking the form would look when I read it, I didn't think personality traits would work. I also wasn't awake very long to really think on it. I vote for them, as it may give us a heads up on who may try to make a mary-sue even if we ask them to correct it.
One page would prevent clutter and we could ask them to tag the staff for the Clan(s) they're joining once they complete their forms.
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 16:54:28 GMT -5
yes, I meant the word format! I don’t think we talked about a joining page so you’re good, Blaze I think one joining page for the entire rp is a good idea. It’d be easier to keep track of, plus the way people will be accepted is being added into a group. It will make the application process easier.
I like that format as an option, Rain. I’m down with traits as long as everyone else thinks it’s a good idea.
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 16:57:21 GMT -5
ooo, i feel like that would be a good format for characters! either that(tagging) or we could put clan in the form?
like this? including the usual info /
clan: rank: relationship: (mate, crush, or family) other:
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 17:04:31 GMT -5
name | age [ negative & neutral & positive ] short description tag clan: rank: sexuality: (optional) relationships: (mate, crush, or family) other:
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Post by Jekyll on May 11, 2020 17:06:23 GMT -5
That looks good to me!
Are you wanting to keep the normal names from the books or are you wanting to expand it to include more things to choose from?
(Like new prefixes and suffixes and such)
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 17:10:13 GMT -5
I think we may have discussed or touched base on like prefixes and suffixes, but I think expanding would be a good idea. As long as the prefixes & suffixes make sense, then they should be allowed. Something like Hammerclaw doesn't make sense (in my opinion) but something like Dolphinsplash is okay? What do you guys think?
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Post by Jekyll on May 11, 2020 17:10:55 GMT -5
Awesome!
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 17:11:04 GMT -5
I wasn't sure what you wanted to include, so I did what would show up on the pages themselves. ;3; Should we have sexuality or let people put them in other?
As long as it fits into an actual "normal" Clan and would make sense for the territory, I'm good. (I know they're based in the UK, but since it isn't actually specified in the books, North American animals or animals that would live in a forest like this would be okay.)
About forbidden romances.. Should we limit those a little bit? In the books, they were only showcased every generation and I think that's something we could consider. While I know there was another one between CrowxLeaf and a blossoming LionxHeather, it does not look good for all the warriors to have a forbidden romance with someone. Logically, it'll cause a lot of issues.
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 17:24:02 GMT -5
I think it'd be fine if we make a separate line for sexuality. It could be optional for people to fill out if their character isn't old enough to know or if they aren't sure.
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 17:24:11 GMT -5
I guess Dolphinsplash could work? I feel it should just be appropriate to what clan they are joining. Like Dolphinsplash would be a riverclan cat. But I am usually chill with anything, even with species names and whatever. One time someone told me that Serin wasn't a realistic prefix but I could use Bronze xD Still a little salty about that.
I like sexualities but it can be optional like Sand suggested. maybe its place could be right beside age?
I thinking limiting forbidden romances is smart. They were rare in the books. maybe if someone wants to do one, we could throw it in a coin flip generator. heads for yes and tails for no lol
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 17:27:09 GMT -5
I don't think we need to have it by age, I normally check the actual form if I want to ask someone about making cats related or suggesting a romance. Not to mention, a lot of people also include romantic interest, so someone could join with a cat that is bisexual and biromantic and another with asexual heteromantic. That's a lot to include when it's supposed to be condensed.
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 17:27:36 GMT -5
Maybe I need to find better examples for prefixes and suffixes? I had to google Serin, but it's a bird... and Bronze is an alloy or color -- how is a bird not realistic? xD
I'm good with limiting forbidden romances. Too many of them could cause issues logically & within the clans, plus it's not realistic.
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 17:28:27 GMT -5
true. it's not the most important part of a character. i am cool with just leaving sexuality in the other section on the forms.
exactly. why i am still salty. i even told them it was bird. xD
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 17:29:50 GMT -5
I also think as long as the name isn't a handful and there's a simpler option, they should pick the simpler option. I don't want to have to type a super long name if they can condense it.
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Post by Jekyll on May 11, 2020 17:30:02 GMT -5
We can just do it that if we use prefixes or suffixes we're unsure of then we just ask if they're okay to use))
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 17:32:20 GMT -5
hmm. i kinda forgot there is some lengthy names out there. i guess it just depends on the name? i hate to limit people's creative freedom lol we can put in the rules ; "you may be asked to changed your name if there is an issue" or something similar.
is each clan going to have the warrior code on their front page? or that something we will add with herb list, battle moves, and ceremonies.
and i finally found my guides. I need to remember what I was supposed to be looking for.
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 17:35:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree-- we could do it case by case if necessary but if we, at the least, have a rule that says "make sure your character's name makes sense" then it would be okay? I'm not sure how else to word it, though normally I don't see many outrageous character names.
I'm thinking page wise we'd put things like that on its own thread. The Warrior Code, herb list, battle moves, ceremonies, etc. would have its own thread so everyone can access it. I think that the clan threads should be as neat and clean as possible.
edit - I think it had to do with SkyClan? I can't remember right now
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 11, 2020 17:36:24 GMT -5
This all looks pretty good to me, but can I suggest instead of “positive, neutral, and negative” personality traits, we just put “trait” since tbh, I feel like any trait can be good and bad?
Positivity can be a good trait but overly optimistic can be considered a bad trait as well Ambition can easily be both Like, a lot of traits could be both good or bad, depending on the situation, plus I feel like it could confuse some people to try and find “neutral” traits?
Idk, that’s just my two cents on the personality trait thing
As for everything else, the form looks really good and I agree that with prefixes and suffixes, maybe just have it as a guideline to ask if more out there ones are okay if you aren’t sure when making them?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 17:38:55 GMT -5
Long names can be handled individually, as Cardinalfeather is also a long name and could be condensed to Cardinalwing or Cardinalflight. I also mean with prefixes and suffixes that you do have to google but it's a type of robin but Robin- isn't being used, so why not use Robin-?
I think it can be included in the herb list, battle moves, and ceremonies. We should create a page just for that if we haven't agreed on that. (I may be super stupid, so ignore me if we mentioned it.) I'm also up for adding some non-canon illnesses to make things interesting. OwO
I know we're talking about a lot of things, but I saw you mention the guide and I want to suggest us making up some leaders for the history/legacy. It doesn't have to have every leader that was before, perhaps the founder, then we say we have skipped to like four generations of leaders priors. I used to have super long descriptions, but we can limit them down to how they were in the books. It would give some more lore and things we can reference not to mention when we role-play elders, they can reference back to that if they happened to be alive.
I disagree with just putting traits. While some can do both, if we leave it as traits, people will only put positive or negative. We should have them do well-rounded characters that have proper flaws. I have a list of traits they can use as a reference.
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 17:42:55 GMT -5
that would be nice c: oh! and season and weather; i feel like that should just be one thing. the five clans all shouldn't have different seasons or weather going on. like rainy in river but sunny in shadow.
would a tentative clan page format be like something like this? - welcome/intro - maybe rules? * unless that is on the joining pages since everyone will have the same - about - territory/camp - member track - relationships - mentors/apprentices - allegiances
i think we were looking for territory descriptions?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 17:48:33 GMT -5
For a tentative, yes that works. We can condense some things to a single post to save room.
I can check my guide, but I think it's the same as on the wiki? Okay, the wiki lacks character. I can type up what the guide has for territory if Blaze doesn't want to?
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 11, 2020 17:52:19 GMT -5
I think we should allow non-canon/more creative names, but not outrageous names. I don’t have a problem with Serin- as a prefix, nor Cardinalfeather as a name. Sure Cardinalfeather is a little long, but it’s only a few letters longer than Cardinalflight. I just don’t think we should be too picky or restrictive on names, as long as there’s nothing like Hammerclaw.
I also prefer just “traits” (for the aforementioned reason of one trait can easily be good and bad), but maybe say somewhere that you have to make your character well-rounded and actually have flaws.
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 17:57:24 GMT -5
I am getting behind on stuff xD
I think the idea of legacies for the clans would be really neat, Rain! I am personally not too picky on traits. as long as your character seems well-rounded, it is all good ~
I was looking for in-depth descriptions but it looks like we might have to type those up our own? One of the guides has a nice "about" sections about each of the clan besides Skyclan (since it didn't exist before publication)
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Post by Sand on May 11, 2020 17:59:35 GMT -5
Okay, so warrior code, ceremonies, herb list, etc. will get its own thread.
Character name wise -- case by case but we'll have a guideline for it that's easy for people to understand. I agree with Ivybreeze.
As for the trait thing, I'm honestly fine with whatever, but I think as long as people include 1 flaw, 1 well rounded trait, and 1 whatever... it works?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 11, 2020 18:02:09 GMT -5
Thing is, being vague will be confusing. We're essentially saying to require a neutral, positive, and negative, but we're not including it in the form. That doesn't make sense. Context with the other traits can also help with traits that can be all three. I really don't want to have to spend a lot of time trying to help someone correct a form because we didn't put a preventative beforehand.
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