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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 9, 2020 22:06:08 GMT -5
My advice would be something like “make sure you give your roleplay partner something to respond to” instead of an actual limit Usually people figure out on their own that it needs to be more than “she smiled” to respond, then maybe we can adjust the rule if it needs to be adjusted later on?
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Post by Leapkit on May 9, 2020 22:06:48 GMT -5
I'm so torn on this because I don't mind one-liners, but I can see where they'd frustrate others. I guess if you don't like the way someone rps, you don't have to interact with them tbh. I'm for letting all literacy be as long as it's third person legible.
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Post by Leapkit on May 9, 2020 22:07:28 GMT -5
My advice would be something like “make sure you give your roleplay partner something to respond to” instead of an actual limit Usually people figure out on their own that it needs to be more than “she smiled” to respond, then maybe we can adjust the rule if it needs to be adjusted later on? Honestly this is perfect wording.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 9, 2020 22:08:15 GMT -5
I think we should make it clear for no one-liners. It's not hard to make a post that could be two sentences. Expecting them to reply to a paragraph won't help, either.
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Post by lazy penguin on May 9, 2020 22:10:44 GMT -5
My advice would be something like “make sure you give your roleplay partner something to respond to” instead of an actual limit Usually people figure out on their own that it needs to be more than “she smiled” to respond, then maybe we can adjust the rule if it needs to be adjusted later on? bruh u said everything i was trying to say so perfectly?? ^^ this 100%
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 9, 2020 22:14:19 GMT -5
Not to mention that being vague can open fights. If we don't set at least a minimum, people will get upset and demand more and boom fight. So at least say no one-liners and/or 3-4 sentences.
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Post by Sand on May 9, 2020 22:42:48 GMT -5
I think wording it the way Space Cookie did would be enough. I don't think people are going to fight over it (or so I hope), and if they do, obviously we've enough people to step in. They'd receive warnings for it anyways and it may put them in jeopardy for the rp depending how bad it gets. but also-- a clan owner or roleplay moderator could remind them that writing so many one-liners are frowned upon. It doesn't have to be too vague. If that upsets them (not really sure why it would), then things can be handled.
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Post by Jekyll on May 9, 2020 22:48:37 GMT -5
Having someone there to remind about the order and rules of the clan is always good. And if someone starts to put to many one liners then they should receive a reminder to lengthen their replies to make it easier on those that they are rping with
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Post by Sand on May 9, 2020 22:50:43 GMT -5
I could put an asterisk by the rule and down below add a reminder to it? We could possibly add that Clan owners & roleplay moderators have the right to send you reminders for [reason].
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Post by Jekyll on May 9, 2020 22:54:49 GMT -5
That sounds good to me
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Post by lazy penguin on May 9, 2020 22:58:17 GMT -5
Sounds good to me as well!
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 9, 2020 23:09:05 GMT -5
Sounds good! I think that’ll work really well for the reply length rule
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Post by Sand on May 9, 2020 23:15:03 GMT -5
Okay, cool! I've added it then.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 10, 2020 12:56:20 GMT -5
Post Templates, Gatherings, & Time One thing we could mention would be about headings and post templates. A lot of the templates I see are very hard to read because they're too coded with illegible fonts and colors. I think the staff for the Clans should have the power to ask them to change it. ● There should at least be a basic heading/template for responses so it's easier to reply to and see a response. Something as basic as their character's name in bold at the top and tagging the people they're responding to will be beneficial. ● They should be legible on mobile. I know that some people will respond with a few sentences, but it's still helpful if others reply a lot. I've seen some posts from members on this topic and it can be quite long, so multiply that by others that can have massive responses and replying to multiple members and one small post that doesn't tag or stand out can be lost. At Gatherings, we should make it mandatory to have the Clan they're from in addition to having the character's name in bold and a tag. ● To make Gatherings function properly, the leader should be on at least 30-15 minutes prior. It should be their responsibility to gather their members together and be at the Gathering on time. ● Members should sign on 15 minutes prior and be ready. ● Leaders should have their starting posts ready five minutes before. If Gatherings become an issue with timing, we could cut straight to news and allow cats to converse afterwards. For timing, we could go every two weeks for full Gatherings and alternate for half-moon Gatherings. If we go every week for a Gathering, cats will be aged up too often and it'll rush the role-play for time. If we wait actual months, we may drag out the role-play? Especially considering each month has an average of three full weeks, but I'm okay with mixing it up as long as it isn't too short nor too long.
Ages Are we going to include ages for the cats? I know I mentioned it with Gatherings, but keeping track can be nice and I would really prefer us requiring everyone to put moons down. It will prevent inaccuracies and prevent permanent queens with like six litters. I normally use an age chart to help out as well so people can make senior warriors and such. The average lifespan was based on the first series (and SEs based before or during) with this one. I know the apprentices part is a bit finicky and I honestly want to know how long you guys think an apprentice should train for. I don't think queens should be younger than 18 moons, especially if we up the average apprentice age. Not to mention that two queens that have been stated to be young to have kits were around 18 moons. (Snowfur and Ryestalk)
● Kits 0-6 Moons ● Apprentices - 6-9 Moons ● Senior Apprentices - 9-13 Moons ● Warriors - 13-56 Moons ● Senior Warriors - 56-96 Moons ● Elders - 96 Moons ● Medicine Cat Apprentice - 6-18 Moons ● Medicine Cat - 18-96 Moons (May go longer.) ● Queens - 18-80 Moons (The older they are, the more likely their kits will be born stillborn, with defects, or the queen's life being in danger.) ● Deputy - 36-96 Moons (May go longer; this is an estimate, as a cat must mentor a cat) ● Leaders - 36-96 Moons (May go longer.)
Warriors under eighteen moons may not receive an apprentice.* They have not fully developed and matured, despite their training. *However, if need be, a warrior between thirteen to eighteen moons may be given an apprentice in a special case. This is only in special cases and must be approved by the admin(s). Unless someone has specified otherwise, cats thirty-six moons (36) and up can claim they have mentored one apprentice.
Apprentices For apprentices overall, we should actually make them role-play sessions, as we can also keep an eye on who is good with making sure their warrior is competent enough to have another apprentice. Now, I separate the apprentices in two sections so we know where they are at in terms of skill. ● For an older apprentice, I typically require: one battle training session, one hunting session, one battle, Moonstone visit. ● For a younger apprentice, I typically require: two battle training sessions, two hunting sessions, one battle, Moonstone visit. ● For a medicine cat apprentice, I typically require: two sessions of battle training, two sessions of hunting training, one session of medical training, and one session of spiritual training, Moonstone visit. (Medicine cats train longer than a normal apprentice, so they will take longer to complete these requirements.) Of course, I'm all for early warrior ceremonies if the apprentice has impressed the leader or deputy. To prevent this happening too often, we could have it be a special plot thing or use it to speed someone up that has missed a lot.
Hiatuses I think for hiatuses, someone can ask for one and we can automatically give them two weeks, then they can ask for an extension. Of course, someone could give us an estimated amount of time, but if they don't, then we have something ahead of time.
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 10, 2020 14:07:33 GMT -5
I didn't even think about post templates; but I do agree that they should be kept simple as possible, since this going to be a forum-wide clan. I often like to lurk on mobile and half the time, I cannot read people's posts due to coding.
I like ages. They should be included, it makes easier to make families and to know if a cat is "mature". We will just have to decide when everyone should age up?
I like the idea of setting RP goals for apprentices. It would ensure things wouldn't be stagnant.
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Post by Jekyll on May 10, 2020 14:15:00 GMT -5
I also think there should be set assignments that all apprentices should have to complete before they become a warrior. That way they prove themselves to the clan.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 10, 2020 14:22:10 GMT -5
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Post by Jekyll on May 10, 2020 14:27:00 GMT -5
Kind of like assessments that need to be completed. The tests will vary depending on which clan it is of course and will test the main abilities that a warrior of that clan needs.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 10, 2020 14:42:45 GMT -5
So the assessments that are in the books, okay. If we require those, it may be too much? I can get their final assessment, but the requirements would be before their final assessment.
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Post by Sand on May 10, 2020 16:30:32 GMT -5
I agree with Blaze and Rain on the post template thing. As long as it’s legible, then it should be fine. I also like the idea of ages. This would allow us to keep track of when apprentices need to become warriors and it would free up positions. Also, the plan of two weeks for the Gatherings & Moonstone meetings sounds good to me. It’s enough time between upping ages and what may happen throughout roleplay.
Apprentice assessments — as long as the apprentice amount is low (like 5 apprentices for example like we decided), keeping track of their assessments would be easy. Since we won’t allow more than that, I think we could do that. It gives us an edge.
Hiatuses are an obvious yes. I imagine that people will need them because life happens.
Before I add any of this information to the info page, I want to make sure everyone is okay with it or if we need to make changes.
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 10, 2020 16:38:33 GMT -5
I think it’s all pretty good!
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Post by Jekyll on May 10, 2020 16:57:03 GMT -5
I'm good with it!
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Post by lazy penguin on May 10, 2020 17:43:12 GMT -5
That all seems good to me!
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Post by Leapkit on May 10, 2020 17:48:53 GMT -5
I'll re read it when im at home but i think most of that makes sense to me. I'm not against letting people use their own headers though as long as they're eligible on mobile.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 10, 2020 19:48:45 GMT -5
Yep, seems good to me as well!
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Post by Sand on May 10, 2020 20:13:45 GMT -5
okay, cool! I’ll add it to the page later.
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Post by Nutmeg the cat on May 10, 2020 20:26:47 GMT -5
ok
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Post by Blaze ♡ on May 11, 2020 13:02:16 GMT -5
I really like basic descriptions with a few personality traits, so I definitely agree with you c: It would be simple and easy to read for everyone, as well. I feel like if people really want to show off their long descriptions, they can put it in a spoiler in their joining form.
Also since we bought up forms, I know cat images are getting more popular but I feel like they shouldn't be mandatory in these clans. Cat images can be optional info that doesn't go on the front page. Or can be used in roleplaying (as long as the format is easy to read in mobile)
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Post by Leapkit on May 11, 2020 13:15:41 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of show-dont tell so short descriptors is great.
As for images. Dont we still have rp profiles to work with? If you want a faceclaim or have art it may just be best to put it as the image for that or spoiler ONE single image under their brief description.
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