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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 22:45:31 GMT -5
Does Dovewing ever tell anyone about her dream when she gets back? Yep. Daisy told her that she wishes Dovewing let her know so she could have comforted her and told her that all she-cats have weird dreams before giving birth to their kits. Dovewing states that she did what she thought was best. Alderheart isn't sure it is just a dream of a queen expecting kits, since the nursery had gotten damaged in the storm. I'm just really happy no one was too hard on her. That makes me glad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 22:52:47 GMT -5
Does Dovewing ever tell anyone about her dream when she gets back? Yep. Daisy told her that she wishes Dovewing let her know so she could have comforted her and told her that all she-cats have weird dreams before giving birth to their kits. Dovewing states that she did what she thought was best. Alderheart isn't sure it is just a dream of a queen expecting kits, since the nursery had gotten damaged in the storm. Seeing how most everyone in ThunderClan is happy to see Dovewing safe and sound, I gotta say...suddenly, I'm not too mad at Dovewing anymore. I still don't really like what happened in Tigerheart's Shadow, but it's good that there are cats like Daisy who care for her.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 4, 2018 23:31:12 GMT -5
Lets see, I read every page:
I'm happy Violet and Tree are getting more moments together, they're a sweet couple. I also like the new position given to Tree and I'm glad he's staying, he's enjoyable to read about.
Twig's warrior name is as horrible as ever, and she still continues to be irresponsible. I hope she matures soon, cause at this point she's grinding my gears. I also don't care for her and Fin being a thing and honestly hope they just stay friends. Twig's petty jealousy now and then toward him and her overstepping too many boundaries is just a turn-off.
I'm very pleased to see that Sleekwhisker returned after all and is still trash, haha. I'm glad Spikefur is dead, he deserved it. But I'm also glad Sleekwhisker is still alive, I hope she comes back and shakes things up again. She's turning out to be a good antagonist like I had hoped she'd be. I wonder where she and the others will go from here.
Well, at least Rowan died honorably if only he was like this while he was still leader. Honestly, if he had just stayed a normal warrior I probably would have liked him way more, and he wouldn't be in such a terrible position. I guess I will admit he deserved better, but only because of how badly the Erins downplayed him in favor of Tigerheart's character.
I don't mind Ivy's kit's names, I'm actually happy they're doing more non-traditional names and not cringey ones you'd see on mary sues either, ugh. I hope Berry gets to apprentice one of them. I'm happy Ivy and Lily got to see Twig's assessment too.
I'm low key annoyed that Dovewing for the most part still got a sob party with sympathizers. But it's not in Ivy's current character to have a vendetta against her sister, she is the more mature of the two after all at this point, and cares for her. But props to Sparkpelt for calling Dovewing out like that, Sparkpelt is officially one of my fav cats in this series again. Doens't matter how you try to sugarcoat it, Dovewing did betray her family and clan and thus gets no sympathy from me.
I also don't care for the Millie/Briar scene. Millie wasn't that great of a mother anyway, so hearing her mourning over just Briarlight, I don't know I'm pretty indifferent about that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ On the other hand I do feel bad for Briarlight, I didn't hate her as a character or anything, I thought she was pretty cool. But unrealistically survived too long, I hope she finds peace in StarClan.
Fin is turning out to be pretty cool, I hope to see more of his character outside of Twig(ugh), I also love his warrior name, finally some quality names. But I do feel bad for his family and his original clan, to up and leave them like that, for a girl...is just...*sigh*
Berrynose still not getting an apprentice is just crazy, wow. Rosepetal is becoming the new Cloudtail, 4 apprentices already, I wonder if this was the editors choice, maybe they just hate Berrynose, lol. Also, Rosepelal and Bumblestripe will be mentors together, maybe they're possibly setting them up? (Also did Bumble react to Dove leaving?)
I'm super amused that once again the Erins have to confirm that Cinderpelt had feelings for Firestar, ya know for the people still in denial and whatnot. There's really no way around that. But I like that she pretty much confirms you can be an awesome medicine cat and still have feelings for another cat. You don't have to let your romantic feelings for someone else come between you and your work, go off Cinder.
I like the sound of Velvet so far, but I was hoping to see Minty again, I'm disappointed. I hope Velvet and Alder don't become a thing, but admittedly this pairing is already way better than Alder x Twig/Needle, ugh.
I was hoping Mistystar would bite the dust in this book, but I guess she'll continue to last until the next book, or maybe die between this series and the next one. I hope Reedwhisker dies before her though, we need a younger cat in the works as the next leader. But I'm happy RiverClan is getting more attention. (Bummed out the river didn't catch fire.)
Breezepelt and Bramblestar being hypocrites make me wheeze, I'm sorry ahaha. Also, how would Alder even know about Breeze anyways, he wasn't even born yet? Like if you're gonna make a cat judge him, use a more viable one, like Leaf or Squirrel. Anyways, is there anything on Breeze and his kits? I kinda wanna see, cause the bar is literally so low in being a good father thanks to Crowfeather.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 4, 2018 23:52:40 GMT -5
Well, it appears that a devastating storm every leaf fall is going to become a trend. That could be a consequence of living so close to the ocean. Plus England is known for its storms.
I feel a lot better about Thriftkit's name now that I know it's a type of flower. (Google it. It's really pretty.) I predict her and Shadowkit being the POVs for arc seven.
The rest of the names are a mixed bag for me. While most are okay, I do not like Hopkit and Flipkit. And Bristle- has limited options for warrior names, which I'm not a fan of. Eh, they could be a lot worse though.
Do we see anything of Mintfur's kits?
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 4, 2018 23:54:13 GMT -5
You mentioned something happening if Dovewing had stayed in the nursery. What do you mean? What happened to it? It was a dream Dovewing had in TS. The nursery was damaged in the storm, though Cinderheart and Blossomfall's kits had been safely bedded down with the elders. But, as Alderheart put it, who knows what would've happened to Dovewing's. What do you mean by damaged? Like a massive branch falling on it or something?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 5, 2018 0:01:35 GMT -5
❅Maplefrost❅, I assume Alderheart was just told about Breezepelt's crimes, but I do agree that having a cat who was actually there to witness Breezepelt's crimes would've been better. But honestly, I'm just glad it's getting acknowledged in this book. It also seems like Alderheart just thinks it rather than outright saying it anyway.
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Post by mimikyutie on Apr 5, 2018 0:21:32 GMT -5
I highkey want Mintfur to be the next RiverClan leader
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 5, 2018 0:46:25 GMT -5
I highkey want Mintfur to be the next RiverClan leader I've always liked him.
And although this isn't canon anymore, Su put him as Reedwhisker's son when she was still doing the Missing Kits.
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Post by mimikyutie on Apr 5, 2018 0:50:39 GMT -5
I highkey want Mintfur to be the next RiverClan leader I've always liked him.
And although this isn't canon anymore, Su put him as Reedwhisker's son when she was still doing the Missing Kits.
He seems like a pretty brave cat, and Mintstar sounds hella nice.
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Post by lesbiansandstorm™ on Apr 5, 2018 0:55:41 GMT -5
well, sounds like it was an interesting read. was there anything on lionblaze and cinderheart? i'm sure they were expecting another lotter at some point. i'm hoping for a lil sandkit of course.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 1:01:59 GMT -5
Yep. Daisy told her that she wishes Dovewing let her know so she could have comforted her and told her that all she-cats have weird dreams before giving birth to their kits. Dovewing states that she did what she thought was best. Alderheart isn't sure it is just a dream of a queen expecting kits, since the nursery had gotten damaged in the storm. Seeing how most everyone in ThunderClan is happy to see Dovewing safe and sound, I gotta say...suddenly, I'm not too mad at Dovewing anymore. I still don't really like what happened in Tigerheart's Shadow, but it's good that there are cats like Daisy who care for her. I like to think that they're gentle because Dovewing is easily sensitive. Queens like Daisy understands her and she's always kind hearted. I was worried Ivypool was going to disown her, and I'm honestly glad that didn't happen. Dove is really sensitive but she deserves to be happy, even if I don't agree with what she's done. I don't mind that they're disappointed in her though since that's perfectly natural, but I'm glad no one was disgusted with her or anything like how cats treated Leafpool or Mapleshade back then. But I will admit that this is biased though. She broke the code, and many cats were punished while she wasn't. But still, part of me is glad that they weren't hard on her because she's worked so hard for her clan because of the prophecy to keep her clan safe. It's about time she should make herself happy.
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All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 5, 2018 1:11:36 GMT -5
@scarletshade, no other cat involved in a forbidden relationship has ever been punished except for Mapleshade. Dovewing's case isn't anything special, and who is even going to punish her anyway? Unless you mean indirectly, but that's entirely different, as it's outside anyone's control.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 1:13:04 GMT -5
well, sounds like it was an interesting read. was there anything on lionblaze and cinderheart? i'm sure they were expecting another lotter at some point. i'm hoping for a lil sandkit of course. Their kits are named Snapkit, Spotkit, and Flykit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 5:46:17 GMT -5
wasn’t the epa founded because there were rivers on fire? the epa must ban this book
also snapkit??? what hell kind of name is that??? is the seventh arc Warrior Cats: West Side Story?
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Easing back in
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 5, 2018 7:30:10 GMT -5
Dovewing should have gotten bad reactions. The fact she gets off scott free makes me mad. I get she's an author favorite, but really?!
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Post by Mayflower on Apr 5, 2018 8:13:03 GMT -5
I just realized it sounds like there were quite a few natural disasters in this book! Sickness, a storm, and a fire. But it's kind of annoying, because besides Briarlight's death, this could've been used to kill off and/or retire a lot of the older ThC cats. Even if it happened like it did in Hawkwing's Journey, where cats were leaving/dying/getting kidnapped left and right, I wouldn't have minded.
And something else occurred to me, but why the hell do the editors keep making all of ThC have these huge litters? Or the cats in the Clans with huge litters in general now? ShC doesn't really need this many cats, now that Tigerheart brought back a bunch with him. All these she-cats had way too many kits:
x2 YarrowNettle (? I think that's her mate, right? And that Faith said she had 2 kits?) PebbleHawk
x3: DoveTiger IvyFern BlossomThorn CinderLion (two litters of three!) LilySnow GrassStone TinySparrow
x4 BlossomThorn SquirrelBramble (only two surviving) SnowScorch (actually more than just 4, but just for this series so far) BerrySparrow
x5 PineSpike
Those are just the ones I remember (with a little help from wikia to see exact number, though I probably messed up a few). It's weird. Is 3+ a magic number now, or...? I want smaller litters again. ThC wouldn't be so overloaded if they didn't keep doing this! Or at least kill off some kits in some of these litters in ThC. Like jesus christ...
One last thing: I wonder if the next series will have brother-sister POVs or brother-brother? We haven't had a brother-brother POV, excluding LionJay, but their series was shared with Holly, Ivy, and Dove, and there's been no brother-sister except them and Holly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 10:46:44 GMT -5
Anyways I really cannot wait for this book to come out though.. I'm mostly looking forward to Sparkpelt giving Twigpaw some tough love, because honestly it's about time, I'm tired of her behavior and Sparkpelt is just about the right cat to do that. At least Sparkpelt wasn't tossed under the bus like most characters were. Since Twigpaw has a PoV probably, then we're bound to see Sparkpelt a few times.
I will be salty if Sparkpelt is tossed aside after this for the rest of the arc though. :/ I'm growing to like her.
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Post by jayfeather1234 on Apr 5, 2018 11:02:34 GMT -5
I think the Erin's forgot that Rippletail was part of Tigerheart's patrol. Because he's all of a sudden a kittypet named Buster. And he has been for a while. In his place on the patrol is now Slatefur. Wouldn't be a Warriors book without an inconsistency like that! Maybe the Erin’s will fix it and make Slatefur the Kittypet. Like they fixed the error in Bramblestar’s storm.
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Post by jayfeather1234 on Apr 5, 2018 11:24:15 GMT -5
I'm honestly kind of salty the Erins keep making my son Alderheart fall for cats. Can't a ThunderClan medicine cat not do that for once? Everyone has, even Jayfeather, fallen for someone. What did Alderheart see in Needletail? What's the purpose of falling for a kittypet? None!They better not develop Alderheart on romance like they did with Dovewing or I'll be salty about it. Jayfeather’s love for Half Moon was one sided as Half Moon was in love with Jayfeathers ancestor Jay’s Wing and was died long before Jayfeather was even born and Rick stated that Half Moon had to become the first stoneteller of the tribe of rushing water.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 5, 2018 11:47:34 GMT -5
I'm honestly kind of salty the Erins keep making my son Alderheart fall for cats. Can't a ThunderClan medicine cat not do that for once? Everyone has, even Jayfeather, fallen for someone. What did Alderheart see in Needletail? What's the purpose of falling for a kittypet? None!They better not develop Alderheart on romance like they did with Dovewing or I'll be salty about it. Jayfeather’s love for Half Moon was one sided as Half Moon was in love with Jayfeathers ancestor Jay’s Wing and was died long before Jayfeather was even born and Rick stated that Half Moon had to become the first stoneteller of the tribe of rushing water. It wasn't one-sided. Jayfeather actually did develop feelings for her to the point of wanting to stay in her time period in Sign of the Moon. Also, Jay's Wing wasn't Jayfeather's ancestor; the two are the same cat because Jayfeather is Jay's Wing's reincarnation.
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Post by Pixie on Apr 5, 2018 16:05:36 GMT -5
Sorry for being a bit excessive with these Twigpaw questions, but I have yet another one.
How is Twigpaw as a cat? Not a character, but as a cat? Is she morally in tune? How would you define her besides her need for all five Clans?
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 5, 2018 16:14:16 GMT -5
Do we know if Cinnamon, Ant, and Blaze have gotten clan names? Not yet.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 5, 2018 16:44:44 GMT -5
I still can't get over Rippletail becoming a kittypet. I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does. I really hope it was actually meant to be Slatefur. How did Cherith even get those two cats mixed up? This is Graystripe forgetting his kits all over again, and it also makes me a little concerned for Cherith. I don't like it either. I mean, I'm alright with Slatefur joining ShC again since he's Puddleshine's brother. It's great for him to have his only surviving main family member back. (It's possible that he's related to Grassheart if she is indeed Spikefur's sister)
But it's supposed to be Rippletail. If Slatefur was the kittypet, then I would feel better about this.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 5, 2018 16:48:37 GMT -5
Yep. Daisy told her that she wishes Dovewing let her know so she could have comforted her and told her that all she-cats have weird dreams before giving birth to their kits. Dovewing states that she did what she thought was best. Alderheart isn't sure it is just a dream of a queen expecting kits, since the nursery had gotten damaged in the storm. Well, at least she lets them know why she left. And Daisy is so sweet. How does Bumblestripe react to her taking Tigerheart for a mate and joining ShadowClan, if we see his reaction at all? Bumblestripe went up to Dovewing and dipped his head stiffly to her, telling Dovewing that he's glad she's alright. Alderheart could tell that he meant it, but Alderheart also recognized the hurt in his voice. Alderheart knows that these two used to be mates, briefly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 16:51:34 GMT -5
Well, at least she lets them know why she left. And Daisy is so sweet. How does Bumblestripe react to her taking Tigerheart for a mate and joining ShadowClan, if we see his reaction at all? Bumblestripe went up to Dovewing and dipped his head stiffly to her, telling Dovewing that he's glad she's alright. Alderheart could tell that he meant it, but Alderheart also recognized the hurt in his voice. Alderheart knows that these two used to be mates, briefly. Bumblestripe is back on neutral. I'm happy he respects her and didn't turn into Ashfur 2.0.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 5, 2018 16:53:11 GMT -5
Well, at least she lets them know why she left. And Daisy is so sweet. How does Bumblestripe react to her taking Tigerheart for a mate and joining ShadowClan, if we see his reaction at all? Bumblestripe went up to Dovewing and dipped his head stiffly to her, telling Dovewing that he's glad she's alright. Alderheart could tell that he meant it, but Alderheart also recognized the hurt in his voice. Alderheart knows that these two used to be mates, briefly. Well, I'm glad he respects her decision.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 5, 2018 16:59:50 GMT -5
Lets see, I read every page: Berrynose still not getting an apprentice is just crazy, wow. Rosepetal is becoming the new Cloudtail, 4 apprentices already, I wonder if this was the editors choice, maybe they just hate Berrynose, lol. Also, Rosepelal and Bumblestripe will be mentors together, maybe they're possibly setting them up? (Also did Bumble react to Dove leaving?) Breezepelt and Bramblestar being hypocrites make me wheeze, I'm sorry ahaha. Also, how would Alder even know about Breeze anyways, he wasn't even born yet? Like if you're gonna make a cat judge him, use a more viable one, like Leaf or Squirrel. Anyways, is there anything on Breeze and his kits? I kinda wanna see, cause the bar is literally so low in being a good father thanks to Crowfeather. Nothing on Breezepelt and his kits. Like I said in an earlier post, his kits are now warriors. But aside from that, nothing. In case you missed it, those two are Brindlewing and Smokehaze.
Aside from Cloudtail, Brackenfur, Tornear, Oakfur and Thornclaw also had four apprentices. The only thing is, Rosepetal received two apprentices in the same series. She also mentored Larksong.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 5, 2018 17:02:44 GMT -5
Do we see anything of Mintfur's kits? Nope. Literally. We see all the other apprentices, but not these four. Or if we did, it was a blink and you'll miss it moment. Because I do not remember them or their parents being in this book at all. I don't even remember Cherrytail or Cloudmist being in this book.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 5, 2018 17:09:01 GMT -5
It was a dream Dovewing had in TS. The nursery was damaged in the storm, though Cinderheart and Blossomfall's kits had been safely bedded down with the elders. But, as Alderheart put it, who knows what would've happened to Dovewing's. What do you mean by damaged? Like a massive branch falling on it or something? To tell you the truth, I don't remember. Alderheart thought about it in the last chapter. So I either somehow skimmed through that scene or it was off-screen.
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