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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 19, 2016 20:11:28 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. I like cheese
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:12:06 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. im gay 4 u
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:12:28 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. I like cheese I actually dont. You probably think I'm being an a-hole, but nah, I just find it weird and gross.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 19, 2016 20:12:43 GMT -5
I have a legitimate question for the LGBT+ community on here. And please don't mock me, because I am honestly just trying to figure out in a clear sense what should be done. And I am trying really hard to word this so it doesn't come off as patronizing, or offensive, in any way, so I hope it won't be interpreted in that way.
What, specifically, should we Christians do? Most of us do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle, as I'm sure you're sick of hearing. However, there seems to be no way for us to express this without is being understood as hateful thinking. So I must ask, what would you like us to do on the matter?
I've personally taken to just not discussing my stances on the LGBT issue, unless directly asked. Is this what you would like?
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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 19, 2016 20:12:51 GMT -5
I actually dont. You probably think I'm being an a-hole, but nah, I just find it weird and gross. Tis fine, cheese ain't for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:12:51 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. im gay 4 u I'm gonna miss you and your posts so much tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:13:01 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. love u
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Post by tiger beetle on Oct 19, 2016 20:13:09 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. I'm sorry I didn't say more to help and I will miss you but I know it's better for you if you leave so I won't try to stop you because getting away from here is a good thing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:13:25 GMT -5
I have a legitimate question for the LGBT+ community on here. And please don't mock me, because I am honestly just trying to figure out in a clear sense what should be done. And I am trying really hard to word this so it doesn't come off as patronizing, or offensive, in any way, so I hope it won't be interpreted in that way.
What, specifically, should we Christians do? Most of us do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle, as I'm sure you're sick of hearing. However, there seems to be no way for us to express this without is being understood as hateful thinking. So I must ask, what would you like us to do on the matter?
I've personally taken to just not discussing my stances on the LGBT issue, unless directly asked. Is this what you would like? don't express it
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 19, 2016 20:13:28 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. what about gay christians do they split in half
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:13:36 GMT -5
i rather not lol and if you feel like this leave bc this forium literally has gay mods )))) It's a solution for you, not me. listen pal, idgaf if you think i shouldnt be around christians lol, im still gonna talk to my favorite person, im still gonna go to his church when he invites me bc its important to him and im exploring my faith and want to see what all this stuff he talks about is like, im still going to love him with every fiber of my being just like how he loves God and if you got a problem with it you can shove your foot in your mouth for all i care also my gay ass is still going to date girls and boys, my gay ass is still gonna be nonbinary, nothing you can say is gonna change that and anyways even if gay WAS HYPOTHETICALLY a sin jesus died for our sins so jesus died for me to be gay :///
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Post by Sanders on Oct 19, 2016 20:14:18 GMT -5
yes and i know that not all christians are terrible people. that's why bringing it up here literally doesn't matter. i am sure as hell that verbatim knows that not all christians are bad people. just as all LGBT people know that. also i don't really equate muslims to terrorist hate groups that use religion as a foundation of hate. just as i wouldn't say all christians are like their terrorist hate groups that use the religion as a foundation of hate. like the west borrow baptist church or other worse groups that use christianity as a hate thing. because those people take things much to far and usually to an extreme and really aren't representing the religion. however, if a christian isn't able to bring up the fact that they hate LGBT people in their every day forum conversation i don't see how that's a bad thing Oh wow you don't get to mention one thing about your religion and my entire existence doesn't get called into question every single day. idk that seems like a gr8 trade off to me??? my original post was not directed towards you, it was directed towards verbatim, who i don't think got to read it. the wording of their post made me shudder, as it sounded like they believed that every christian has the same outlook, and it sounded like it included every christian user under the same group. this is exactly my point. hate does not represent the belief of the whole. the problem is what this rule could entail. what language could be used to report someone? what else would be called into question? i am not against the existence of the rule, all i am saying is that it should be created carefully, with precise language so that everyone is happy. Please stop calling me a christian. It's bad enough i have to pretend to be around people who have known me since i was a fetus, even lead them in worship to a god I don't believe in. Also i never questioned your existence? since you exist enough to talk to me i am unsure to how it can be questioned. well it might have been directed at most christian users here aha im not saying it wasn't. and a lot of LGBT people use a general group because that's the group oppressing us even if not every single individual person is not. yes i know that. but idk how it relates to this conversation anymore. i assume that the language would be any aggression or negativity towards the LGBT community and quite frankly i don't care because i am sick and tired of it on this site and it's rampant. also i meant more of the general you and not you specifically. as in "you" the christian community so im sorry i wasn't more specific. also my entire existence is that im a boy but i was designated female at birth (dfab) so basically im trans and a lot of people don't agree that you can change your gender identity and that you should be able to be whoever you want. (: so like yeah.
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Post by tiger beetle on Oct 19, 2016 20:14:37 GMT -5
I have a legitimate question for the LGBT+ community on here. And please don't mock me, because I am honestly just trying to figure out in a clear sense what should be done. And I am trying really hard to word this so it doesn't come off as patronizing, or offensive, in any way, so I hope it won't be interpreted in that way.
What, specifically, should we Christians do? Most of us do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle, as I'm sure you're sick of hearing. However, there seems to be no way for us to express this without is being understood as hateful thinking. So I must ask, what would you like us to do on the matter?
I've personally taken to just not discussing my stances on the LGBT issue, unless directly asked. Is this what you would like? realize that we are people--regular people--who are in danger and need things to be better; we need to be accepted, and not just in the "well, I side with the people who want to kill you, but it's okay because I wouldn't kill you" sense realize that not agreeing with our existence is hateful, dangerous, and honestly ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:14:54 GMT -5
I'm gonna miss you and your posts so much tbh. im sad these ugly ppl ruined this place for u and honestly ur one of my favorite ppl here !!! im gonna be sad ur gone but im not gonna try to convince u to stay cuz lol this place sucks
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:14:59 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. darn. not going to ask you to stay because it's probably not the best thing but i really liked you so i'll miss you
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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 19, 2016 20:15:02 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. what about gay christians do they split in half
One side turns super stereotypical gay the other never leaves church
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:15:02 GMT -5
I have a legitimate question for the LGBT+ community on here. And please don't mock me, because I am honestly just trying to figure out in a clear sense what should be done. And I am trying really hard to word this so it doesn't come off as patronizing, or offensive, in any way, so I hope it won't be interpreted in that way.
What, specifically, should we Christians do? Most of us do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle, as I'm sure you're sick of hearing. However, there seems to be no way for us to express this without is being understood as hateful thinking. So I must ask, what would you like us to do on the matter?
I've personally taken to just not discussing my stances on the LGBT issue, unless directly asked. Is this what you would like? 1.) Ideally, change your mind. There are plenty of LGBT and pro-LGBT Christians who have successfully reconciled their faith and their ability to support LGBT people. You could become one of them. Door's always open. 2.) Don't talk about it. Don't talk to us, either. We deserve better.
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Post by shortstop on Oct 19, 2016 20:15:18 GMT -5
please stop saying "your." i do not wish to be included in this group at the moment. and while in reality, Christians are not discriminated against, we are talking about what is happening on the forums, not in the real world. and the creation of a rule could POTENTIALLY infringe upon discrimination. I'm not saying it will. i'm not saying the idea is bad. all i'm saying is that this situation needs to be approached carefully. then in that case i'd like to redirect you to December's wonderful point about not wanting to abolish Christianity, but homophobia. if you can't talk about your religion without being potentially discriminatory in the process, that's a problem. religious discussions should be able to go perfectly smoothly without the discussion of "i disagree with this entire group of human beings". please stop saying "your." i do not want to be included in this group at the moment.but the creation of this rule and this discussion has gone in the direction of christianity. the op even said something about how people are homophobic questions, that's just the way this discussion has gone. so any potential rule would eradicate homophobia, yeah. but it would be made because of this conversation, because of christianity being apart of it. so this goes back to how i said we should be careful in the creation of this rule, because it should eradicate homophobia without targeting a religion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:15:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised Roswell hasn't shut this down yet. i'm surprised u think they're that petty
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Post by Noctis on Oct 19, 2016 20:15:50 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. what about gay christians do they split in half
That would be an entirely different debate on its own @fading - tldr. Stick to the short snarky comments
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:16:05 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. what about gay christians do they split in half
maybe thats why i have a split personality
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:16:44 GMT -5
I totally know I'm not sinless. I never said I'm "holier than thou". Sorry if you got that impression. And yeah sexuality is not a personality trait, but you can't change either so that's what I was trying to use as an analogy. But it makes no sense for you to seemingly partake in pro-lgbt acts and then turn around and say something as anti-lgtb as "I dont support it." I don't partake in pro-lgbt acts. I partake in pro-human activities.
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Post by greene on Oct 19, 2016 20:16:55 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess. you've been super helpful & i appreciate that immensely and i'm sorry the Discourse drove you out. you deserve better and i hope you find it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:17:05 GMT -5
lesbian Papillon @anyone else I'm missing I'm gonna miss you guys too tbh? People like you honestly made staying this long worth it for me, but being here is starting to damage my mental health and my ability to focus on things like my friends, my education, and my hobbies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:17:16 GMT -5
what about gay christians do they split in half
That would be an entirely different debate on its own @fading - tldr. Stick to the short snarky comments You should stick to not posting at all because literally no one cares
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Post by Yoshimi on Oct 19, 2016 20:17:25 GMT -5
This thread is still going on? I just got back from doing my homework suprised it's not closed.
But yeah,Everyone's worthy of respect regardless of creed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:17:39 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 19, 2016 20:18:50 GMT -5
I have a legitimate question for the LGBT+ community on here. And please don't mock me, because I am honestly just trying to figure out in a clear sense what should be done. And I am trying really hard to word this so it doesn't come off as patronizing, or offensive, in any way, so I hope it won't be interpreted in that way.
What, specifically, should we Christians do? Most of us do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle, as I'm sure you're sick of hearing. However, there seems to be no way for us to express this without is being understood as hateful thinking. So I must ask, what would you like us to do on the matter?
I've personally taken to just not discussing my stances on the LGBT issue, unless directly asked. Is this what you would like? realize that we are people--regular people--who are in danger and need things to be better; we need to be accepted, and not just in the "well, I side with the people who want to kill you, but it's okay because I wouldn't kill you" sense realize that not agreeing with our existence is hateful, dangerous, and honestly ridiculous I'm not going to go into the whole disagreement = hate debate, because that's been exhausted and I doubt anyone's mind will change on the matter. My question was more on the grounds of, "What should people who have such a belief do considering this forum?" Like I've said, I don't think anyone's minds on the matter will alter, so I ask what should be done if said people continue in their current belief. Does that make sense? I'm sorry if any of what I'm saying is frustrating. I'm just trying to operate on the assumption that beliefs probably aren't going to change here, so how do we work with what we've got.
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Post by Noctis on Oct 19, 2016 20:18:59 GMT -5
I'm surprised Roswell hasn't shut this down yet. i'm surprised u think they're that petty I thought they would because of the arguments, as they have closed threads similar to these before. Then again, I guess it hasn't gotten too hostile to warrant that.
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:19:09 GMT -5
what about gay christians do they split in half
That would be an entirely different debate on its own @fading - tldr. Stick to the short snarky comments nah fam i do what i want when i want, and that includes people of any gender
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