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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:00:23 GMT -5
can we please stop associating christianity with homophobia? a lot of homophobes are christians, but not all christians are homophobes. thanks (: I've said I didn't like three hundred times. Can you read my posts, or? i wasn't talking to you specifically. can you read my post, or?
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Post by Sanders on Oct 19, 2016 20:00:27 GMT -5
im sorry but you wrote Jesus Christmas and i can't stop laughing. im so sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:01:23 GMT -5
I've said I didn't like three hundred times. Can you read my posts, or? i wasn't talking to you specifically. can you read my post, or? I mean, you were kind of generalizing, but okay, fine.
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Post by greene on Oct 19, 2016 20:01:42 GMT -5
if it's taking that much of a toll on your mental health that it's causing you physical and emotional anguish, this is probably the best decision to make. i'm sorry people are like this. i'm sorry that people still think in the year 2016 that it's okay to say some of the things which have been said here. you deserve so much better, and i sincerely hope you find it. i'm about to yeet this place myself honestly. i think i've outgrown it aside from a couple good friends i'll stay beside, but otherwise it just causes me all kinds of frustration which it really really shouldn't lmao props to speaking out, and best of luck. hi pls dont leave me greenie beanie i would never leave u bb
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:01:53 GMT -5
one time someone called jesus gay and i cried for MONTHS never forget the G.B.F. qoute "and then he'll realize that the only person he should be gay for is jesus"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:02:19 GMT -5
Also, like, I'm not going to chill and be besties with a bunch of homophobes who drive my friends off this site. Like, sure, I'm cool. You know what's not cool? The way you treat people like me. Thanks for the offer, but I'm gonna decline.
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rood yelling meanie
be cunning and full of tricks
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Post by sɪʟᴠᴇʀᴏᴡʟ ☾ on Oct 19, 2016 20:02:36 GMT -5
OK, so I didn't even know this conversation was even still going on, but since I was mentioned I'll post. I never want to hurt anyone. I'm sorry if I somehow did I know my thoughts and opinions aren't popular, but I definitely NEVER advocate hating anyone based on their sexuality. I only try and stand up for my friends when I feel like they're being attacked. I don't want any of you guys to feel horrible, which is why I stopped even mentioning lgbt unless my friends are getting heat. I don't want to have all of this tension and I try to keep it from happening, but like I said, I'm trying to stand up for my friends when I feel like they're getting attacked. I never hate anyone and I don't want to give you guys the impression of that. I just don't agree with a specific aspect of your life. And let me be clear, disagreeing is not hating. I wouldn't ever vote against gay marriage or anything like that. It's not my business and if that makes you happy, then fine. You do you. To put this in perspective, think about personalities. I don't like people who are extroverted, but I have many friends who are and I don't try to change who they are. I still love them and them being extroverted is part of who they are. The same goes with sexuality. My religion states that homosexuality is a sin. It doesn't say we should hate gay people. It says we should love them. Love your neighbor as yourself. So while I don't agree with homosexuality, I will still love, respect, and treat people like people. I don't see how this is wrong. If I've don't anything that is actually mean and rude, I apologize, but I don't see how my thoughts are wrong. In the end, my faith is my life and I will follow Jesus Christmas no matter what. That is the ultimate goal in my life and it will always be, no matter how many people hate me for it. I really hope we can get past this, because a lot of you guys are really cool people and I don't want there to be hostility between us. •♕• there's going to be hostility between everyone if you guys continue to "disagree" with us ok no matter what your religion says, no matter if you "love" us anyway, you STILL are a part of the problem. you arent absolved of sin (using this term in the literary sense not the religious sense) because you "love us too guys ))) im not homophobic because i treat people like humans even though i dont agree with lgbtq )))))" •♔•
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 19, 2016 20:02:42 GMT -5
Obviously the problem here is a disconnect between what's considered discrimination and hate speech. On one hand, we have the religious side who do not see disagreement as hate. On the other, we have the LBGT side that believes not supporting is the same as abandoning them. And that's where the conflict lies. One sees it as discrimination, one does not. I think it's important that both sides recognize the other's perspective on the matter. The LGBT+ must realize that the religious group doesn't associate the problem with hating and therefore discrimination, which is why they are upset that it is being considered so. At the same time, the religious group needs to realize that the LBGT+ view such stances as discrimination, and that they feel unprotected in this environment.
It's a hard situation to fix, since there's such a wide rift in the definition of a word. •♕• literally not supporting = abandoning can you not •♔• I didn't mean abandoning in the literal sense. It was my attempt to surmise the LGBT's belief on how not supporting them is the same as hate, because lack of support is the same as lack of love or care for them.
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:02:59 GMT -5
hi pls dont leave me greenie beanie i would never leave u bb <3 <3 <3 <33333
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:03:14 GMT -5
anyway im gonna watch the debate bc this thread aint gonna go no where
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Post by Sanders on Oct 19, 2016 20:03:33 GMT -5
anyway im gonna watch the debate bc this thread aint gonna go no where idk what you're looking for there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:04:01 GMT -5
im scared to tell people of my religion because im scared that i will be viewed as a homophobe because of you bigoted, closed-minded asswipes. im scared to say i think girls are cute, because im scared i'll get attacked. THIS IS NOT THE BEST WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN BE. IT'S TIME TO GROW UP. What a shame. You shouldn't feel scared. Be proud of who you are, my dear friend. I say things myself and I am not afraid, even if people attack me. Heck I will say right now that I am an atheist. But I respect people who believe in God.
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Post by mickle on Oct 19, 2016 20:04:25 GMT -5
OK, so I didn't even know this conversation was even still going on, but since I was mentioned I'll post. I never want to hurt anyone. I'm sorry if I somehow did I know my thoughts and opinions aren't popular, but I definitely NEVER advocate hating anyone based on their sexuality. I only try and stand up for my friends when I feel like they're being attacked. I don't want any of you guys to feel horrible, which is why I stopped even mentioning lgbt unless my friends are getting heat. I don't want to have all of this tension and I try to keep it from happening, but like I said, I'm trying to stand up for my friends when I feel like they're getting attacked. I never hate anyone and I don't want to give you guys the impression of that. I just don't agree with a specific aspect of your life. And let me be clear, disagreeing is not hating. I wouldn't ever vote against gay marriage or anything like that. It's not my business and if that makes you happy, then fine. You do you. To put this in perspective, think about personalities. I don't like people who are extroverted, but I have many friends who are and I don't try to change who they are. I still love them and them being extroverted is part of who they are. The same goes with sexuality. My religion states that homosexuality is a sin. It doesn't say we should hate gay people. It says we should love them. Love your neighbor as yourself. So while I don't agree with homosexuality, I will still love, respect, and treat people like people. I don't see how this is wrong. If I've don't anything that is actually mean and rude, I apologize, but I don't see how my thoughts are wrong. In the end, my faith is my life and I will follow Jesus Christ no matter what. That is the ultimate goal in my life and it will always be, no matter how many people hate me for it. I really hope we can get past this, because a lot of you guys are really cool people and I don't want there to be hostility between us. That analogy doesn't work because extroverts aren't discriminated against, nor is homosexuality a personality trait.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:04:46 GMT -5
anyway im gonna watch the debate bc this thread aint gonna go no where idk what you're looking for there. quality entertainment while i cry about the future of this nation clearly
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:05:02 GMT -5
anyway im gonna watch the debate bc this thread aint gonna go no where and you think the debate will??? lmaooo
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Post by Noctis on Oct 19, 2016 20:05:19 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other.
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Post by greene on Oct 19, 2016 20:05:22 GMT -5
there is no such thing as "Christian rights". you are not being discriminated against. you have never been discriminated against. not here, not last year, not in the last 200 years. your rights are the default, and in the United States, they always have been. no, not all Christians are bad. that applies to literally no group whatsoever. but this mentality is poisonous. that's what people are criticizing, and they have every right to be critical. please stop saying "your." i do not wish to be included in this group at the moment. and while in reality, Christians are not discriminated against, we are talking about what is happening on the forums, not in the real world. and the creation of a rule could POTENTIALLY infringe upon discrimination. I'm not saying it will. i'm not saying the idea is bad. all i'm saying is that this situation needs to be approached carefully. then in that case i'd like to redirect you to December's wonderful point about not wanting to abolish Christianity, but homophobia. if you can't talk about your religion without being potentially discriminatory in the process, that's a problem. religious discussions should be able to go perfectly smoothly without the discussion of "i disagree with this entire group of human beings".
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Post by ❴ ғα∂ιηg ✦ яεαℓιтү ❵ on Oct 19, 2016 20:06:56 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. i rather not lol and if you feel like this leave bc this forium literally has gay mods ))))
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:07:22 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. yaaaaass gurllll segregation i looooovooeoeooe it ****
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Post by shortstop on Oct 19, 2016 20:07:38 GMT -5
i was trying to assure verbatim that not all christians are terrible people. and you know what, i'll make a comparison to muslims and ISIS right now. because i bet that you would say not accepting muslims would not be okay, right? because not all of them are terrible people like the ones behind ISIS. is that not a legitimate argument? what makes the Christian argument any different? it is a valid point to bring up in a conversation that could easily result in the loss of christian rights on this forum. if we're assuming that all christians are terrible people, then it's an easy move to remove their rights to free speech as well. I am not defending people who are incapable of supporting others. All I am saying is that we should be CAREFUL as to how we approach this situation. yes and i know that not all christians are terrible people. that's why bringing it up here literally doesn't matter. i am sure as hell that verbatim knows that not all christians are bad people. just as all LGBT people know that. also i don't really equate muslims to terrorist hate groups that use religion as a foundation of hate. just as i wouldn't say all christians are like their terrorist hate groups that use the religion as a foundation of hate. like the west borrow baptist church or other worse groups that use christianity as a hate thing. because those people take things much to far and usually to an extreme and really aren't representing the religion. however, if a christian isn't able to bring up the fact that they hate LGBT people in their every day forum conversation i don't see how that's a bad thing Oh wow you don't get to mention one thing about your religion and my entire existence doesn't get called into question every single day. idk that seems like a gr8 trade off to me??? my original post was not directed towards you, it was directed towards verbatim, who i don't think got to read it. the wording of their post made me shudder, as it sounded like they believed that every christian has the same outlook, and it sounded like it included every christian user under the same group. this is exactly my point. hate does not represent the belief of the whole. the problem is what this rule could entail. what language could be used to report someone? what else would be called into question? i am not against the existence of the rule, all i am saying is that it should be created carefully, with precise language so that everyone is happy. Please stop calling me a christian. It's bad enough i have to pretend to be around people who have known me since i was a fetus, even lead them in worship to a god I don't believe in. Also i never questioned your existence? since you exist enough to talk to me i am unsure to how it can be questioned.
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Post by "not" june on Oct 19, 2016 20:08:01 GMT -5
idk what you're looking for there. quality entertainment while i cry about the future of this nation clearly me
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Post by Sanders on Oct 19, 2016 20:08:04 GMT -5
Gay Mods would make a gr8 tv show
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:08:09 GMT -5
I totally know I'm not sinless. I never said I'm "holier than thou". Sorry if you got that impression.
And yeah sexuality is not a personality trait, but you can't change either so that's what I was trying to use as an analogy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:08:27 GMT -5
Gay Mods would make a gr8 tv show I would watch it.
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Post by Noctis on Oct 19, 2016 20:08:33 GMT -5
The moral of this story is that Christians and gays should stay far away from each other. i rather not lol and if you feel like this leave bc this forium literally has gay mods )))) It's a solution for you, not me.
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Post by mickle on Oct 19, 2016 20:09:35 GMT -5
I totally know I'm not sinless. I never said I'm "holier than thou". Sorry if you got that impression. And yeah sexuality is not a personality trait, but you can't change either so that's what I was trying to use as an analogy. But it makes no sense for you to seemingly partake in pro-lgbt acts and then turn around and say something as anti-lgtb as "I dont support it."
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sɪʟᴠᴇʀᴏᴡʟ ☾
rood yelling meanie
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Post by sɪʟᴠᴇʀᴏᴡʟ ☾ on Oct 19, 2016 20:10:46 GMT -5
•♕• literally not supporting = abandoning can you not •♔• I didn't mean abandoning in the literal sense. It was my attempt to surmise the LGBT's belief on how not supporting them is the same as hate, because lack of support is the same as lack of love or care for them. •♕• you. literally just described it perfectly. thats exactly what it is •♔•
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 20:11:02 GMT -5
Also, I'm quitting tonight, so this is our last discourse together! How exciting. Here's you guys' last chance to say what you need to say to me, I guess.
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Post by halo on Oct 19, 2016 20:11:05 GMT -5
i rather not lol and if you feel like this leave bc this forium literally has gay mods )))) It's a solution for you, not me. noah fence but no one asked for your ~solutions~
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Post by Noctis on Oct 19, 2016 20:11:25 GMT -5
I'm surprised Roswell hasn't shut this down yet.
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