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May 19, 2018 10:40:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 10:40:49 GMT -5
giving me real ren and stimpy vibes.
THATS IT. THATS YOUR STYLE. REN AND STIMPY MEETS GARFIELD. Ive solved the case.
Also i love the stylized cats. A lot. They have so much more personality and defining traits instead of kinda looking all like a copy paste of one another with different colors and accessories. I can actually tell that they are supposed to be different distinguished breeds. Why dont you start doing that for the comic? Or is it just because its easier to draw?
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May 19, 2018 10:48:13 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 10:48:13 GMT -5
giving me real ren and stimpy vibes. THATS IT. THATS YOUR STYLE. REN AND STIMPY MEETS GARFIELD. Ive solved the case. Also i love the stylized cats. A lot. They have so much more personality and defining traits instead of kinda looking all like a copy paste of one another with different colors and accessories. I can actually tell that they are supposed to be different distinguished breeds. Why dont you start doing that for the comic? Or is it just because its easier to draw? mainly because the one thing that's hard about the more stylized cats is that they are pretty hard to draw from multiple angles, where my regular way of drawing cats is much easier to draw over and over and over again from different angles. tbh I also like the stylized cats more than the style I use for the comic, it's more of the issue that I'm intending on keeping the style at least somewhat consistent and only gradually changing (as with the muzzle evolution thing) over the course of the comic for Consistency(TM) so nobody gets completely alienated when comparing things. (this is also why all the designs for the characters remain the exact same throughout the whole thing, even though I've grown to wish I had changed some things on Papageno's design) if not for that tho I'd totally just use the more stylized drawings instead
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May 19, 2018 11:34:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 11:34:30 GMT -5
You should draw them more often then. Art improvement and all that. Also seeing their legs actually connected to the sides of their body instead of under them like an actual cat is much nicer imo.
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May 19, 2018 12:20:57 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 12:20:57 GMT -5
that makes sense I'm still not really enjoying the queen's stylized design, although mainly because it's her. she goes between like at least five different personalities at different times because of her... interesting character development before and during the events of the comic. trying to fit in the overly-idealistic proposer of a whole new society along with the current somber figure seen now to her future and past development that shall remain unspoken of all in the same design... is a pretty hard task
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May 19, 2018 17:19:53 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 17:19:53 GMT -5
now that I'm thinking about the queen: tbh out of all the characters I think the queen of the night is the one with the most drastic yet gradual character development, taking her whole story into account. I can't say much (obviously) but comparing her younger self to her older self is like night and day (pun not intended) I mean it makes sense? but it's so strange out of context.
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May 19, 2018 18:50:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 18:50:01 GMT -5
Real talk i think if you could script this whole thing into an actual opera/musical/play/?? for actual people to perform I think it'd be a smashing hit and I'd pay good money to see it even though I HATE that kind of theatre stuff normally so that's saying something.
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May 19, 2018 20:19:21 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 20:19:21 GMT -5
Real talk i think if you could script this whole thing into an actual opera/musical/play/?? for actual people to perform I think it'd be a smashing hit and I'd pay good money to see it even though I HATE that kind of theatre stuff normally so that's saying something. Having Ensemble: The Theatrical Production would be fun. I would have to pull off a Wagner (read: make it like 5-6 hours long) in order to be able to do it because it's really long and can't be cut down without removing important parts of the story, and tone down a lot of changes I've made that make Ensemble less stage-friendly than its opera counterparts, but hell it would be a lot of fun. (And it would piss off all the old stuffy opera people, which would be terrifying and entertaining at the same time! You should see them clutch their pearls any time an opera implies anything other than heterosexuality it is the FUNNIEST thing)
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May 19, 2018 20:32:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 20:32:50 GMT -5
honestly though if I could make any ensemble-related play that would kind of just be add-ons to the story more than anything (like the After Sunset plays that the Erins used to write for Warriors) I'd probably make it about leporello or something. that guy is just so endlessly fascinating
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May 19, 2018 20:40:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 20:40:46 GMT -5
I would 100% just read that.
Also like. I want to write bad parody fanfiction about ensemble but i dont feel like we're quite far enough in for me to know the characters well enough to even make a fanfic.
Imagine. a bad figaro/leporello fic. with undertones of monostatos/rope otp of course.
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May 19, 2018 20:43:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 20:43:50 GMT -5
I would 100% just read that. Also like. I want to write bad parody fanfiction about ensemble but i dont feel like we're quite far enough in for me to know the characters well enough to even make a fanfic. Imagine. a bad figaro/leporello fic. with undertones of monostatos/rope otp of course. leporello's great honestly. like all these people out here like "the don is the most interesting character in this opera" haha NO leporello is where it's at I think after the next couple of scenes it should be clear who most of the main cast is, I think. bad parody fan fiction would be best then (you'll know when that point is after the train station. train station? what train station??? you'll see.) but I would 100% read a bad figaro/leporello fic
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May 20, 2018 12:36:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 12:36:01 GMT -5
but if you want a very cryptic description of ensemble events you can just pick any five posts from tumblr blog operasuggestion and you'll probably be pretty close to the real thing
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May 20, 2018 20:12:04 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 20:12:04 GMT -5
aaaand updated again, with the return of tamino's strange dreams!
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May 20, 2018 20:13:21 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 20:13:21 GMT -5
YEET
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May 20, 2018 20:16:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 20:16:11 GMT -5
Cue getting scolded by ghosts for unleashing the Cat Womanizer.
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May 20, 2018 20:18:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 20:18:58 GMT -5
Cue getting scolded by ghosts for unleashing the Cat Womanizer. yeah the whole "literally everything is telling me so far that this guy is a serial assaulter but you know what? he might be fine!" is... not good planning there. tamino has a horrible judge of character to say the least
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May 20, 2018 20:47:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 20:47:39 GMT -5
Like I guess I gotta give him brownie points for trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt! Maybe they were wrong! I do that too which makes it Relateable! But you. should maybe. also. listen to other peoples firsthand opinions about maiming and torture/
Then again I dated my ex when everyone told me he was Bad News Bears and I gave him a chance and things turned out bad just like everyone told me. So. I guess I would have done the same thing and can't criticize.
Great now Tamino is my spirit animal
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May 20, 2018 20:59:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 20:59:16 GMT -5
Like I guess I gotta give him brownie points for trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt! Maybe they were wrong! I do that too which makes it Relateable! But you. should maybe. also. listen to other peoples firsthand opinions about maiming and torture/ Then again I dated my ex when everyone told me he was Bad News Bears and I gave him a chance and things turned out bad just like everyone told me. So. I guess I would have done the same thing and can't criticize. Great now Tamino is my spirit animal tamino is... naive to say the least. after all, he's been raised in a house with no cares in the world, so this whole city adjustment is still new to him. he tends to assume people are decent (when they aren't idiots like a certain bird-catcher). he's quick to temper but he generally is kind of a sheep in that he blindly does what anyone will tell him to, which is both a good and a bad thing. and then there's don giovanni, who practically thrives at being able to make people think he's a good guy. manipulation is his native tongue. if you go find the original opera- which mind you is very dark, given who the don is- you can see that his whole singing style changes based on who he's with, and it;s a very alarming effect when compared to everyone else who has a very distinct style. for example; leporello is quiet and trembling and tends to just bounce off his master when he isn't getting his own chance to shine, elvira is fiery and headstrong but has a insecure underbelly, and so on. but then there's the don, who is unnerving in how much he can change. even in the libretto alone, he has this very unworldly off feeling, and especially when you apply fridge logic the entire idea of the don alone is downright horrifying. naturally, this combination doesn't bode well...
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May 20, 2018 21:05:29 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 21:05:29 GMT -5
And the fact that you've stated before that people like Don and think he's a hero when he's a big ol sociopath probably says something unfortunate about society's standards.
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May 20, 2018 21:16:32 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 21:16:32 GMT -5
And the fact that you've stated before that people like Don and think he's a hero when he's a big ol sociopath probably says something unfortunate about society's standards. it really does, especially when you see the people who think that are overwhelmingly cis straight males. i think the treatment of donna anna over the years is a pretty good example of this. can't put full details here but her whole gist is basically that the don assaults her, kills her dad when he tries to protect her after she fights the Don off long enough and runs to get the police, and then leaves. anna's immediate response to this? basically track down that piece of crap and get the justice everyone deserves. sounds good, right? but no. it's really common to see productions where anna's whole thing is "he didn't like me enough to stay >:(" which is pretty clearly problematic when throughout the plot she shows signs of trauma AND it's made clear that that sort of thing would be completely in the Don's character! so tldr my girl donna anna doesn't get any of the credit she deserves and I hate it. there's a lot of other ways people warp around with it so the don is Good Guy(TM) (such as making Elvira look like a crazy ex or having Leporello be a complete buffoon) and none of them are good. if your local theater portrays him as the hero you have full right to turn and leave the real mvps stage it so donna anna is a lesbian and she and donna elvira fall in love. that's the tea fellas!
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May 21, 2018 4:43:49 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 4:43:49 GMT -5
i know it's five am or something rn but i have an addition to the stylized ensemble cats donna elvira or (as i referred to her while making this) the incredible n e e d l e f a c e she absolutely towers over the don and would beat him in in five seconds flat if they got in a fight. meanwhile compared to her leporello is small enough that she could step on him by accident. thanks for coming to my ted talk
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May 21, 2018 9:47:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 9:47:39 GMT -5
i know it's five am or something rn but i have an addition to the stylized ensemble cats donna elvira or (as i referred to her while making this) the incredible n e e d l e f a c e she absolutely towers over the don and would beat him in in five seconds flat if they got in a fight. meanwhile compared to her leporello is small enough that she could step on him by accident. thanks for coming to my ted talk
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May 21, 2018 9:54:05 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 9:54:05 GMT -5
i know it's five am or something rn but i have an addition to the stylized ensemble cats donna elvira or (as i referred to her while making this) the incredible n e e d l e f a c e she absolutely towers over the don and would beat him in in five seconds flat if they got in a fight. meanwhile compared to her leporello is small enough that she could step on him by accident. thanks for coming to my ted talk Elvira is the best honestly. like the guy that just mocks her when she tries to get him to redeem himself after he practically ruined her original happy life still won't listen even though she's one of only two cats that genuinely cares about him? she just sits and watches him as he burns to death in front of her and is dragged off to cathell. then she starts using the flames around her to light her cigarettes before completely losing any affection she had for him. iconic like leporello's traumatized by the whole ordeal and elvira's just "yeah that bastard deserved it". there are two kinds of cats, it seems
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May 22, 2018 11:33:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 11:33:12 GMT -5
also funnily enough apparently tiger is the most popular name in illinois (where chicago is)... hmmm
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May 22, 2018 12:23:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 12:23:07 GMT -5
why havent you made an ask the ensemble cast yet???????
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May 22, 2018 12:35:32 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 12:35:32 GMT -5
why havent you made an ask the ensemble cast yet??????? I've done a few, but it's been a while since them (iirc the last one was in March)
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May 22, 2018 12:36:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 12:36:27 GMT -5
why havent you made an ask the ensemble cast yet??????? I've done a few, but it's been a while since them (iirc the last one was in March) Why have i never seen them? Are you sure? Maybe im going crazy.
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May 22, 2018 12:52:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 12:52:14 GMT -5
I've done a few, but it's been a while since them (iirc the last one was in March) Why have i never seen them? Are you sure? Maybe im going crazy. here's one of them from December. might remake it, idk
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May 23, 2018 18:58:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 18:58:27 GMT -5
me when I'm talking about don giovanni
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May 24, 2018 12:37:46 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 12:37:46 GMT -5
this twitter post screams an intense amount of susanna to me I haven't even introduced susanna in the comic proper but for future reference when she does show up in the next scene after this one: this is her.
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May 24, 2018 12:41:26 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 12:41:26 GMT -5
That tweet speaks to me on a spiritual level.
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