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Cloud
resident Tribe of Rushing Water enthusiast
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Post by Cloud on Aug 25, 2023 21:04:59 GMT -5
This book sounds like it was written by A.I. I hate the fact that you're probably right. That's horrifying and hilarious at the same time.
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Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 25, 2023 21:05:23 GMT -5
Yes. The only thing I can give her is that Slash was holding her father, Owl, and was about to kill her, but she stepped in at the exact moment and saved him. But other than that, she's... basically cardboard and I assume she's just room to squeeze in the "Frostpaw is Riverstar's descendant". I did forget to mention that she had a mate and a litter prior to Riverstar, but I believe her mate died and her kits live with Twolegs. That lowkey sounds like Night, not gonna lie. What is going on anymore? That's exactly what I was thinking! What was stopping the team from just pairing off Riverstar with Night if they were just going to reuse her story anyway? At least we've known her longer! Seriously, not only is this giving me Night vibes, but Violet Dawn vibes as well. And I like Violet Dawn!
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Post by stupidflower on Aug 25, 2023 21:06:29 GMT -5
Alright, more questions:
How would you rate this book? Do you think this book is worth buying as a hardcover?
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Post by کیوان on Aug 25, 2023 21:06:35 GMT -5
@mudgoose
What did you expect? More and more androids are showing signs of deviancy. But for real, if their idea was to make River Ripple's life as chaotic as possible, they went and did that.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:07:18 GMT -5
So how many new characters do we have and do you think we'll see any of them again? There are a lot of new characters, actually. Kite Wing and her three kits, Snow Tail, Willow Stream, Trout Fur. Slash is still hanging out with Bee, Ember, Snake, Beetle, Snail, Swallow, and Splinter. In the Park there's Finch, Stoat, Squirrel, Dart, Magda, Hopper, Scooby, Owl, Rust, Midge, Sparrow, Grub. I've mentioned Riverstar and Finch's kits. There's also Hawk, he doesn't appear again after the preview. There's Cleo and Casper. Cleo brought her kits to River Ripple's camp after she was chased away by Clear Sky, and Casper came to get them back. Their kits are Hunter and Scout. Riverstar has a lot more campmates than what we saw in DOTC. Their names are Whistle, Hollow, Silver, Sage, Croak, and Woodlouse.
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Post by stupidflower on Aug 25, 2023 21:08:44 GMT -5
SCOOBY AND GRUB 😭
Also damn, RiverClan is PACKED!
kinda sad that Shadowstar not only was the only leader without descendants, but also the one with the smallest Clan while she was alive
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Post by Cloud on Aug 25, 2023 21:10:42 GMT -5
So how many new characters do we have and do you think we'll see any of them again? There are a lot of new characters, actually. Kite Wing and her three kits, Snow Tail, Willow Stream, Trout Fur. Slash is still hanging out with Bee, Ember, Snake, Beetle, Snail, Swallow, and Splinter. In the Park there's Finch, Stoat, Squirrel, Dart, Magda, Hopper, Scooby, Owl, Rust, Midge, Sparrow, Grub. I've mentioned Riverstar and Finch's kits. There's also Hawk, he doesn't appear again after the preview. There's Cleo and Casper. Cleo brought her kits to River Ripple's camp after she was chased away by Clear Sky, and Casper came to get them back. Their kits are Hunter and Scout. Riverstar has a lot more campmates than what we saw in DOTC. Their names are Whistle, Hollow, Silver, Sage, Croak, and Woodlouse.
Finch, Scout, and Snow Tail are my favorite names out of this list. I love that they aren't just....reusing character names from other books, I will give them that.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:10:49 GMT -5
Alright, more questions: How would you rate this book? Do you think this book is worth buying as a hardcover? I'm going to put my reply in spoilers just in case. I'd rate this book a solid 5/10. It was better than Onestar's Confession and Leopardstar's Honor because Riverstar is a more likeable character than those two, and he keeps to his "roots" for lack of a better word. He still meditates, he's still a peaceful loving guy, he still relies on the river for everything and it's a trope that's used in the book - the river thanks him, the river gave it to him, etc. However, half of it is a DOTC rehash, and everything that happens after MFV is Riverstar going to the Park, and then Skystar attacking him right after. Riverstar's love story with Finch was contrived and cheap. Alongside that, there's no comic. I wouldn't recommend this as a hardcover. There's a lot better SEs out there. I'd only get this if you really like Riverstar.
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Post by کیوان on Aug 25, 2023 21:10:49 GMT -5
So how many new characters do we have and do you think we'll see any of them again? There are a lot of new characters, actually. Kite Wing and her three kits, Snow Tail, Willow Stream, Trout Fur. Slash is still hanging out with Bee, Ember, Snake, Beetle, Snail, Swallow, and Splinter. In the Park there's Finch, Stoat, Squirrel, Dart, Magda, Hopper, Scooby, Owl, Rust, Midge, Sparrow, Grub. I've mentioned Riverstar and Finch's kits. There's also Hawk, he doesn't appear again after the preview. There's Cleo and Casper. Cleo brought her kits to River Ripple's camp after she was chased away by Clear Sky, and Casper came to get them back. Their kits are Hunter and Scout. Riverstar has a lot more campmates than what we saw in DOTC. Their names are Whistle, Hollow, Silver, Sage, Croak, and Woodlouse. Oh, come on. We could've had Bark's Face and instead we got Grub Hub. Way to go, Erins.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:19:18 GMT -5
There are a lot of new characters, actually. Kite Wing and her three kits, Snow Tail, Willow Stream, Trout Fur. Slash is still hanging out with Bee, Ember, Snake, Beetle, Snail, Swallow, and Splinter. In the Park there's Finch, Stoat, Squirrel, Dart, Magda, Hopper, Scooby, Owl, Rust, Midge, Sparrow, Grub. I've mentioned Riverstar and Finch's kits. There's also Hawk, he doesn't appear again after the preview. There's Cleo and Casper. Cleo brought her kits to River Ripple's camp after she was chased away by Clear Sky, and Casper came to get them back. Their kits are Hunter and Scout. Riverstar has a lot more campmates than what we saw in DOTC. Their names are Whistle, Hollow, Silver, Sage, Croak, and Woodlouse.
Finch, Scout, and Snow Tail are my favorite names out of this list. I love that they aren't just....reusing character names from other books, I will give them that. I also cannot answer if we will see them again. Riverstar's kits seem important enough, I think that his line will tie into A Starless Clan, but if DOTC does get any new material (not looking likely), I doubt that anyone in this book will make a reappearance.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:21:20 GMT -5
This book sounds like it was written by A.I. Some lines genuinely seem like they came from ChatGPT.
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Post by stupidflower on Aug 25, 2023 21:22:16 GMT -5
I can't believe we didn't see Ravenstar
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Post by stupidflower on Aug 25, 2023 21:22:42 GMT -5
Yikes. Any particularly bad ones?
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Post by کیوان on Aug 25, 2023 21:24:29 GMT -5
This book sounds like it was written by A.I. Some lines genuinely seem like they came from ChatGPT. Here's an earnest question from yours truly: are they any baller quotes on the level of "tell the stars that you've won"?
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:24:31 GMT -5
Does Fern Leaf appear at all? Also, what are your thoughts on Riverstar as a character ignoring the fact his SE was basically a rehash? No, I don't think she appeared.
I like him. There were some things that put me off a bit - the fight with One Eye is reenacted, and River Ripple feels glad that he killed a cat, which threw me off a bit. I feel he was a bit OOC in some parts, especially when he dallied at the Park as long as he did (Drizzle got so fed up that she tried to go home without him, and Riverstar had told Night that if he didn't come back by two moons, then she had to go to the Moonstone and get her nine lives. He was still waiting for Finch to decide to come with him even as that date grew close). But I like that he still stays relatively close to what we know him as - a cat who likes peace, meditating, but not afraid to fight when he has to. I also really enjoy that he went with Arc rather than staying behind. I felt that Kate was able to stay true to his character, save for a few instances like One Eye's death.
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Post by کیوان on Aug 25, 2023 21:26:14 GMT -5
Does Fern Leaf appear at all? Also, what are your thoughts on Riverstar as a character ignoring the fact his SE was basically a rehash? No, I don't think she appeared.
I like him. There were some things that put me off a bit - the fight with One Eye is reenacted, and River Ripple feels glad that he killed a cat, which threw me off a bit. I feel he was a bit OOC in some parts, especially when he dallied at the Park as long as he did (Drizzle got so fed up that she tried to go home without him, and Riverstar had told Night that if he didn't come back by two moons, then she had to go to the Moonstone and get her nine lives. He was still waiting for Finch to decide to come with him even as that date grew close). But I like that he still stays relatively close to what we know him as - a cat who likes peace, meditating, but not afraid to fight when he has to. I also really enjoy that he went with Arc rather than staying behind. I felt that Kate was able to stay true to his character, save for a few instances like One Eye's death. You can tell that One Eye was the first DF cat when even River Ripple hates his guts.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:26:28 GMT -5
Some lines genuinely seem like they came from ChatGPT. Here's an earnest question from yours truly: are they any baller quotes on the level of "tell the stars that you've won"? Hm... unfortunately not. My favorite quote from the book, though, is: "We are one Clan once more. I will never leave you again, and I hope that from now on, you have enough faith in me and in RiverClan to stay and uphold the values we've come to believe in. Loyalty, honor, courage, and faith in StarClan. These are the values of a warrior. Peace, community, and kinship. These are the values of RiverClan."
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 25, 2023 21:29:51 GMT -5
Why does Drizzle go with Riverstar to the park?
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 25, 2023 21:31:10 GMT -5
"Peace, community, and kinship. These are the values of RiverClan." I like that a lot. Hopefully that ties into the new arc. We already saw how close Frostpaw was to her mom and sisters. Hope this remains a theme in upcoming books. Frostpaw only has one sister: Mistpaw. Graypaw is her brother.
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Post by کیوان on Aug 25, 2023 21:31:17 GMT -5
Here's an earnest question from yours truly: are they any baller quotes on the level of "tell the stars that you've won"? Hm... unfortunately not. My favorite quote from the book, though, is: "We are one Clan once more. I will never leave you again, and I hope that from now on, you have enough faith in me and in RiverClan to stay and uphold the values we've come to believe in. Loyalty, honor, courage, and faith in StarClan. These are the values of a warrior. Peace, community, and kinship. These are the values of RiverClan." Pretty bread and butter. I'll take it.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:32:22 GMT -5
Why does Drizzle go with Riverstar to the park? She followed him. Riverstar went with Arc alone (did I forget to mention that Arc was nearly killed by Skystar? He came to RiverClan injured and was out for two days, before telling Riverstar that Skystar did this) when they heard a cat mewling for help. Drizzle is in the water and she can't swim, and Riverstar rescues her, but unfortunately he loses a life in the process. Her reasoning, basically was, "I want to help. [...] I want to do more meditating, with Arc. It's so cool, and Arc does it so well. I want to be like him."
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 25, 2023 21:39:21 GMT -5
Why does Drizzle go with Riverstar to the park? She followed him. Riverstar went with Arc alone (did I forget to mention that Arc was nearly killed by Skystar? He came to RiverClan injured and was out for two days, before telling Riverstar that Skystar did this) when they heard a cat mewling for help. Drizzle is in the water and she can't swim, and Riverstar rescues her, but unfortunately he loses a life in the process. Her reasoning, basically was, "I want to help. [...] I want to do more meditating, with Arc. It's so cool, and Arc does it so well. I want to be like him." Gosh darn it, Skystar. Drizzle can't swim? How long after the nine lives ceremony was this? I thought she would've learned by now. Unless it takes place before TE. And, aw! Drizzle really looks up to Arc. That's so sweet.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:41:35 GMT -5
She followed him. Riverstar went with Arc alone (did I forget to mention that Arc was nearly killed by Skystar? He came to RiverClan injured and was out for two days, before telling Riverstar that Skystar did this) when they heard a cat mewling for help. Drizzle is in the water and she can't swim, and Riverstar rescues her, but unfortunately he loses a life in the process. Her reasoning, basically was, "I want to help. [...] I want to do more meditating, with Arc. It's so cool, and Arc does it so well. I want to be like him." Gosh darn it, Skystar. Drizzle can't swim? How long after the nine lives ceremony was this? I thought she would've learned by now. Unless it takes place before TE. And, aw! Drizzle really looks up to Arc. That's so sweet. I think it takes place before Thunderstar's Echo, since Lightning Tail is still alive. It's about late greenleaf when they go on the journey. I'm not sure what season his nine lives ceremony takes place in.
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Post by stupidflower on Aug 25, 2023 21:43:35 GMT -5
Do you know of the quotes on the website? If you do, do you know who says them, and to who?
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:45:15 GMT -5
Also, Skystar gives off massive Ashfur in Bramblestar's body vibes. I mentioned that a tree fell in RiverClan's territory while Riverstar was away - Skystar says that's StarClan's sign that he's allowed to hunt in their land, and he mentions that "SkyClan will always follow StarClan." Basically, he uses StarClan to justify his reasons for invadign RiverClan territory.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 25, 2023 21:47:04 GMT -5
Gosh darn it, Skystar. Drizzle can't swim? How long after the nine lives ceremony was this? I thought she would've learned by now. Unless it takes place before TE. And, aw! Drizzle really looks up to Arc. That's so sweet. I think it takes place before Thunderstar's Echo, since Lightning Tail is still alive. It's about late greenleaf when they go on the journey. I'm not sure what season his nine lives ceremony takes place in. He gets them in greenleaf. Moth Flight also gives her kits up in greenleaf.
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Post by *Faith* on Aug 25, 2023 21:48:03 GMT -5
I'm glad that Drizzle gets more screentime. I always did like her.
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Post by iceheart on Aug 25, 2023 21:48:55 GMT -5
"The group is big enough. Things are going well. Why spoil it?” --Night “I wish you’d choose me.” --Riverstar “I must be the one to give you your last life and with it, you will change the lives of so many others.” --Flutter “You must do whatever it takes. [Or] you will lose everything you’ve fought so hard to gain.” --Petal. She appears as a spirit to River Ripple.
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