Change my Mind! Maple Edition (UPDATED)

Why do you hate Reedshine? And dislike Ferncloud?

Why do you dislike Stormtail?

I don't think he was that good of a mate, let alone a father. I dislike the fact that he was so keen on chasing after Dappletail, and never officially breaking things off with Moonflower. Not to mention instead of protecting and defending his mate during the battle, or his kits, he was too busy helping out Dappletail and fighting by her side. Imo, if Stormtail had been there for Moonflower, she probably wouldn't have died, especially in front of Bluepaw.

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Why do you love Flametail?

I really enjoyed his pov, and I find him to be a complex and interesting character. I was pretty upset when he died though, he had so much potential.

I agree SOOOO much The reason my username is Dappletail is because my other username didn't fit!I despise Dappletail Because it's kinda her fault Moonflower died!

And Stormtail was the one not there to help her. Dappletail had nothing to do with it

I think I already answered that one above ^^

Why do you hate Frecklewish? Also, why do you like Heathertail and Nightcloud?

 I mostly hated her for how she treated Mapleshade. She pushed the idea that her brother was Maple's kit's father, onto her. Then when she found out they weren't she was so quick to attack her in front of her own kits. She did the cat version of "dehumanizing" by calling them "things". And kept crying out to drive Mapleshade and her kits out, wanting the kits to be just as punished as their mother, despite them being innocent. She then stood by and did nothing when the kits drowned, she could have gotten help, or even tries herself, but didn't. Then when Mapleshade confronted her again, she was the first to attack, and wished death upon her. Imo, she got what she deserved in the end. Also her name is so cringe worthy.

I like Heathertail because she has pretty good development as a character, especially after the whole Lion drama. When she let Lionblaze take the herbs, it showed who was more matured out of the two, despite how badly Lionblaze had treated her before. Personally I don't have much of a reason to dislike her, and I think she's an okay cat.

The same goes for Nightcloud, I don't have much of a reason to dislike her. I more or less feel sorry for her, and I think she deserved better than Crowfeather. I don't think she was the best parent, but definitely a better parent than him when it came to raising Breezepelt. She's not all bad, she's shown to have a genuine caring side when she's worried over Breezepelt when he was younger. And also defends him when needed, I think she's an okay character.

Ah yes, I love her when she was a live but when she died...Really, Erins, really? Yeah, she was great but StarClan and YS made her terrible/near terrible.

I didn't care for Sol much as a villain. He was manipulative, yes, but didn't seem like much of a fighter. Also Midnight telling him important information, made no sense to me. It made more trouble than it was worth, and even when he came back around the second time, I still couldn't believe cats fell for his crud. He's like a less cooler version of Hawkfrost, imo. But his design is nice, even if it's unrealistic. Also his grudge is ridiculous, "SkyClan kicked me out so I'mma wreak havoc on other clans, at least attempt too!" like??

I don't like Milie, like a lot, for one, her design is too close to Silverstream, whether the Erin's say it was a coincidence or not, I just didn't like it. I hate her name, it irks me every time an outsider cat is let into the Clan and they don't change their name, it's been an issue more than once in the clans. I hate how she and Graystripe hooked up, it was unnecessary, and only for new bloodline fodder in the Clans, so the Erins don't have them interbreed so badly. And I hate, hate how she treated her kids. She's disgustingly ableist with Briarlight, neglects both Blossomfall and Bumblestripe, and verbally abuses Blossomfall. Meanwhile, during Graystripe's whole journey he talks about how much he loves Silverstream, and when they get back he doesn't even seem to pay her much mind, let alone his kits. Did I mention Millie is disrepectful toward Graystripe's beliefs in StarClan. Or the time Graystripe called out to Silverstream in the Last Hope. making it very obvious he still wanted to be with her, like?? If Graystripe was so satisfied with his current life, then that scene wouldn't even be necessary. Millie is annoying, and so are the 3 B's.

I didn't like his backstory, for one. His siblings used to pick on him, yeah so what, it's a normal sibling thing. And then he turns them away when they're older, that's just really stupid imo. Him hijacking Tigerstar's plans, annoyed me so much. Here I am so excited for Lion vs Tiger and then bam, out of no where Scourge just kills him. And I'm like lol. Tigerstar teaming up with a kittypet in general just seemed so ooc, and then Scourge planning to take over the forest, was so dumb. Why would Tiger even think about bringing enough cats into the forest, that it takes all four clans to fight against, it's just so dumb. Scourge imo didn't seem like a final villain vibe. He just came out of no where, and then we find out he and Fire are half bros? I call bs on that. He seriously gave me lame emo cat vibes, and his reasoning for becoming evil was just dumb. Not as dumb as Sol's but still dumb. I don't think he's a well written villain, or character. Seriously, dog teeth, in the collar and claws??? Seriously?