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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 8:23:47 GMT -5
Well I'm not overly thrilled with this book but I'm not surprised by that. I feared that would happen. The second half didn't have much going for it except Icestar's leader ceremony and a bunch of new names, and that's just about it. No Cats of the Park, no Wafflepaw (guess he's doomed to follow in Stormcloud's pawsteps), IH's connection to this makes no sense now because the battle was pretty much resolved by the time they got back... There's a lot to be desired here. Not awful but it feels very lacking to me. i guess the only connection was icewing
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 8:29:41 GMT -5
Well I'm not overly thrilled with this book but I'm not surprised by that. I feared that would happen. The second half didn't have much going for it except Icestar's leader ceremony and a bunch of new names, and that's just about it. No Cats of the Park, no Wafflepaw (guess he's doomed to follow in Stormcloud's pawsteps), IH's connection to this makes no sense now because the battle was pretty much resolved by the time they got back... There's a lot to be desired here. Not awful but it feels very lacking to me. Wafflepaw does appear in Nightheart’s penultimate chapter lol. I didn’t mention every time a character makes an appearance because I was zooming through these chapters and summaries.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 8:31:27 GMT -5
I’m going to write out a bigger post detailing my thoughts on the entire book in a bit.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 8:31:32 GMT -5
Well I'm not overly thrilled with this book but I'm not surprised by that. I feared that would happen. The second half didn't have much going for it except Icestar's leader ceremony and a bunch of new names, and that's just about it. No Cats of the Park, no Wafflepaw (guess he's doomed to follow in Stormcloud's pawsteps), IH's connection to this makes no sense now because the battle was pretty much resolved by the time they got back... There's a lot to be desired here. Not awful but it feels very lacking to me. Wafflepaw does appear in Nightheart’s penultimate chapter lol. I didn’t mention every time a character makes an appearance because I was zooming through these chapters and summaries. At least he appears, I guess, but I had hoped he'd have more of a role in the plot. Was probably hoping for too much though.
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 8:43:02 GMT -5
I really do wish we got more insight into how Sparrowtail and Hollowspring felt about this whole ordeal. Sunbeam's also probably right in that Berryheart's in the Dark Forest, unless they do something like with Mudclaw and put her in StarClan for believing she was doing the right thing.
So Fognose and Breezeheart are exiled. I'm assuming they'll come back into play later on? I'm also assuming that the other RiverClan cats returned to their Clan. I'm quite content with Icewing becoming leader as well! I know she's old, but she's honestly the most qualified cat and at least Owlnose isn't too old himself. I'm glad that he's accepted responsibility and I'm very interested in the kind of deputy he'll be.
Splashtail's death still feels uneventful and the chapters following his death feel like it's only moving forward because of Frostpaw and waiting for her to get out of her coma while waiting for Icewing to return. I was expecting Splashtail's end to be something a little more grandiose, I suppose? I did enjoy him as a villain quite a lot, though I understand the criticisms of his character. I do wish we got more of Curlfeather as a villain, especially with that whole "power will keep you safe" line.
Frostdawn and Whistlebreeze are lovely names! Same with Graysky and Mistpool.
Not surprised with the NightSun kits. I would have preferred if they waited, or perhaps were just a childless couple (eg. TwigxFin). The ship has grown on me but still not their biggest fan, admittedly. But Blaze, Ember, and Scorch as names? Nightheart, now we're just repeating the naming process! Squirrelstar also feels like she did nothing?? Not sure what she's accomplishing as leader right now. I know it's probably copium but I'm still of the mind that she and Bramblestar are lying about what happened at the Moonpool. As a whole the book feels a little underwhelming but I'll wait until I have my hands on it to make a final judgement. In any case, thank you very much Pixie for the summaries and providing spoilers! Would love to know your thoughts on the book when you have the time. Agreed, it *does* seem a bit underwhelming.
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Post by کیوان on Oct 26, 2024 8:46:29 GMT -5
All the same, I am grateful to Pixie for doing this. Disappointed as I am, I’d sooner hear about it earlier to have more time to process my emotions. It wouldn’t be fair of me to shoot the messenger.
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Oct 26, 2024 8:47:23 GMT -5
Do we get a reveal on *how* jayclaw died?
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 8:47:52 GMT -5
All the same, I am grateful to Pixie for doing this. Disappointed as I am, I’d sooner hear about it earlier to have more time to process my emotions. It wouldn’t be fair of me to shoot the messenger. Oh I'm grateful to Pixie too don't get me wrong. And Icestar is still pretty based- I've liked Icewing a long time, loving the attention she's gotten recently.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 26, 2024 8:50:38 GMT -5
Honestly not too bad. Since these are just summarized points I'm guessing it reads better instead. Also I rather they take out the villains half way through instead of last second and leave a bunch of stuff untied. The second half chapters obviously have to do more with character conclusions and seems to be very important for Frostdawn. On the other hand, happy for NightSun. I'm guessing they'll do another round of novella books, like after OotS to fill in any holes, so the usual. Hoping for an Icestar or Owlnose one to help give more insight. Thank you for the spoilers, looking forward to reading it myself!
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 8:56:18 GMT -5
Honestly not too bad. Since these are just summarized points I'm guessing it reads better instead. Also I rather they take out the villains half way through instead of last second and leave a bunch of stuff untied. The second half chapters obviously have to do more with character conclusions and seems to be very important for Frostdawn. On the other hand, happy for NightSun. I'm guessing they'll do another round of novella books, like after OotS to fill in any holes, so the usual. Hoping for an Icestar or Owlnose one to help give more insight. Thank you for the spoilers, looking forward to reading it myself! Aren't novellas pretty much discontinued for the time being? They said as much a little while ago.
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 8:57:11 GMT -5
Honestly not too bad. Since these are just summarized points I'm guessing it reads better instead. Also I rather they take out the villains half way through instead of last second and leave a bunch of stuff untied. The second half chapters obviously have to do more with character conclusions and seems to be very important for Frostdawn. On the other hand, happy for NightSun. I'm guessing they'll do another round of novella books, like after OotS to fill in any holes, so the usual. Hoping for an Icestar or Owlnose one to help give more insight. Thank you for the spoilers, looking forward to reading it myself! Aren't novellas pretty much discontinued for the time being? They said as much a little while ago. Super Editions and the (new) Graphic Novels are what we're getting for extra books outside the main series.
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 8:57:29 GMT -5
what happens to podlight by the end?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 26, 2024 8:58:09 GMT -5
At the end of the Wind spoiler thread, I had pointed out the following questions regarding plot points that had yet to be resolved: -What did Lightleap see in River that spooked her? -What exactly happened to Jayclaw? -How did Frostpaw see Curlfeather after her death if (1) her visions at that point weren't real, and/or (2) Curlfeather was in the Dark Forest? -Will Bee's vision amount to anything? -Why was Frostpaw spayed - is that going to have any effect on her story? (Doesn't seem to make any difference so far...) And it seems like none of them ended up being resolved after all. I guess we could chalk up Frostpaw's vision of Curlfeather as a regular dream, but even now that scene at the end of Star suggests it was more real than that.
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 9:00:41 GMT -5
All the same, I am grateful to Pixie for doing this. Disappointed as I am, I’d sooner hear about it earlier to have more time to process my emotions. It wouldn’t be fair of me to shoot the messenger. Oh I'm grateful to Pixie too don't get me wrong. And Icestar is still pretty based- I've liked Icewing a long time, loving the attention she's gotten recently. i still cant help but feel that author were not intending icestar at all until IPH, her writing before doesnt make sense it really seems like it was going to be mothwing
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 26, 2024 9:02:21 GMT -5
Honestly not too bad. Since these are just summarized points I'm guessing it reads better instead. Also I rather they take out the villains half way through instead of last second and leave a bunch of stuff untied. The second half chapters obviously have to do more with character conclusions and seems to be very important for Frostdawn. On the other hand, happy for NightSun. I'm guessing they'll do another round of novella books, like after OotS to fill in any holes, so the usual. Hoping for an Icestar or Owlnose one to help give more insight. Thank you for the spoilers, looking forward to reading it myself! Aren't novellas pretty much discontinued for the time being? They said as much a little while ago. Srs? Is it permanently disconnected? If so that'd be such a waste. And if that's the case I suppose I'll just have to hope for an Icewing SE instead, which I don't mind either.
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 9:04:11 GMT -5
At the end of the Wind spoiler thread, I had pointed out the following questions regarding plot points that had yet to be resolved: -What did Lightleap see in River that spooked her? -What exactly happened to Jayclaw? -How did Frostpaw see Curlfeather after her death if (1) her visions at that point weren't real, and/or (2) Curlfeather was in the Dark Forest? -Will Bee's vision amount to anything? -Why was Frostpaw spayed - is that going to have any effect on her story? (Doesn't seem to make any difference so far...) And it seems like none of them ended up being resolved after all. I guess we could chalk up Frostpaw's vision of Curlfeather as a regular dream, but even now that scene at the end of Star suggests it was more real than that. pretty sure that it’s never said that Df cats couldn’t interact with the dead or living like Stc, so it does make sense that curlfeather was interacting but it is left vaugue by the summary and probably will be cleared up by the full book
further more her fake vision probably didn’t amount to anything as who was chosen (icestar) is a obvious choice by frostpaw, plus it doesn’t make sense as curl wouldn’t be vouching for the cat that killed her it doesnt make sense
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 9:04:56 GMT -5
Aren't novellas pretty much discontinued for the time being? They said as much a little while ago. Srs? Is it permanently disconnected? If so that'd be such a waste. And if that's the case I suppose I'll just have to hope for an Icewing SE instead, which I don't mind either. i think a curlfeather sc would work wayyyyy better
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 9:10:26 GMT -5
Aren't novellas pretty much discontinued for the time being? They said as much a little while ago. Srs? Is it permanently disconnected? If so that'd be such a waste. And if that's the case I suppose I'll just have to hope for an Icewing SE instead, which I don't mind either. I don't think "permanently", but they've said their creative energies are spent on the SEs and Graphic Novels now. They said never say never though, I think. And I think a StormClan SE is all but confirmed for SE 18. Probably Galestar.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 26, 2024 9:13:29 GMT -5
The other things I am thinking about:
- My impression from the last book is that most RiverClan cats were following Splashtail because they thought he was anointed by StarClan and had nine lives. That reasoning seems kind of forgotten about this book. Pixie, was anyone calling him Splashstar?
- I would still like to know Splashtail's motivation and descent into madness at the end. Fleshing that out a bit more would have made him a much cooler villain. Like, imagine if he had been "seeing" visions since he was young, feeding him grandiose ideas of power that inflated his ego, and he was good at hiding it in his youth, but they slowly got darker and encouraged him to do worse things; then maybe as his power struggle started going wrong, those "visions" turned ugly and slowly drove him to paranoia and insanity. That would have been really cool.
- A little weird they waited until the last book to start developing some of these characters.
- I actually like the conclusion of Nightheart's arc. Him being okay with Firestar's legacy because he's sufficiently carved out his own niche feels like a realistic reflection of maturation. I'm pretty sure the thing about his family suggesting the kits be named Ember, Scorch, and Blaze is supposed to be a joke referencing how uncreative his family is with legacy names.
- I like all the med/warrior names given in this book! They all roll off the tongue nicely and conjur lovely mental images.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 26, 2024 9:19:17 GMT -5
At the end of the Wind spoiler thread, I had pointed out the following questions regarding plot points that had yet to be resolved: -What did Lightleap see in River that spooked her? -What exactly happened to Jayclaw? -How did Frostpaw see Curlfeather after her death if (1) her visions at that point weren't real, and/or (2) Curlfeather was in the Dark Forest? -Will Bee's vision amount to anything? -Why was Frostpaw spayed - is that going to have any effect on her story? (Doesn't seem to make any difference so far...) And it seems like none of them ended up being resolved after all. I guess we could chalk up Frostpaw's vision of Curlfeather as a regular dream, but even now that scene at the end of Star suggests it was more real than that. pretty sure that it’s never said that Df cats couldn’t interact with the dead or living like Stc, so it does make sense that curlfeather was interacting but it is left vaugue by the summary and probably will be cleared up by the full book
further more her fake vision probably didn’t amount to anything as who was chosen (icestar) is a obvious choice by frostpaw, plus it doesn’t make sense as curl wouldn’t be vouching for the cat that killed her it doesnt make sense They absolutely can, but that first dream is still pretty unclear given that she was at the moonpool, saw stars in Curlfeather's fur, and Curlfeather told Frostpaw she needed to pick a new leader for RC. After the reveal of Curl's plot (and that she was prob in the DF), we all generally assumed that must have just been a regular dream and not a real vision, but then a similar thing happens in this book where Curlfeather reveals additional information about herself that Frostpaw wouldn't have known. I guess Frostpaw could have just been making it up in her head, but then was the dream with Jayclaw also not really StarClan? Idk, still unclear on that first dream's legitimacy as a "vision" or not.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 9:23:00 GMT -5
Okay, here’s my overall opinions on everything since a couple people asked now! Anyways, to get straight into it, all of the protagonists were utilized well in this book! Usually, in these protagonist trios, one of the characters end up not doing a bunch, but I think all of them carried their weight. Nightheart spent a decent portion of time being a prisoner in the RiverClan camp; Sunbeam was a glimpse into ShadowClan; Frostpaw stays carrying the plot forward. She’s the one to kill Splashtail, is RiverClan’s connection to StarClan, and puts a new leader into place.
Honestly, I can’t choose between Sunbeam’s and Frostpaw’s chapters. Sunbeam offers a unique perspective (thinking that one can find peace in the Dark Forest by coming to terms with what they are) and holds heavy value to love. When she was grieving for Berryheart, you could really feel it and even though Berryheart was clearly in the wrong, she was willing to fight for her. Her relationship with Nightheart and his family is really sweet and you can really tell she has a heart for helping others.
Frostpaw, of course, is always the one stepping up to the plate. She swims from the gathering island to WindClan’s shore. She’s the one who has the final showdown with Splashtail and ends up almost dying because of it. A heavy burden lay on her shoulders, and even though she started to entertain the idea of staying dead, she came back because her Clan needed her. She had the world on her shoulders and even though she messed up a bit when she was younger, she matured, and is going to stay true to RiverClan.
My biggest issue with the book is that the characters most likely to die are the only ones who die. The death count is two: Splashtail and Berryheart. I guess they wanted to tone down this arc’s ending because The Broken Code’s ending did not hold back. This is definitely a more grounded arc, though I still wonder how Frostdawn managed to beat Splashtail when she’s quite a bit more inexperienced than him when it comes to fighting.
The best thing about the book in my opinion besides Sunbeam and Frostdawn is the side cast. I said in an earlier post that this story has nuance to it and that comes from the characters. We have many standouts in this book: Lightleap, Owlnose, Gorseclaw, and those are just a select few. SO MANY of the characters get fleshed out. Splashtail was absolutely terrifying in this book and it’s sad that he didn't cause any real damage when he was such an intimidating villain.
It was also cool seeing old RiverClan favorites: Crookedstar and Stonefur particularly.
Anyways, I suggest that you all read the book for yourself so that you can form your own opinions! I’m sure some information probably got missed in my summaries.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 9:24:36 GMT -5
The other things I am thinking about:
- My impression from the last book is that most RiverClan cats were following Splashtail because they thought he was anointed by StarClan and had nine lives. That reasoning seems kind of forgotten about this book. Pixie, was anyone calling him Splashstar?
- I would still like to know Splashtail's motivation and descent into madness at the end. Fleshing that out a bit more would have made him a much cooler villain. Like, imagine if he had been "seeing" visions since he was young, feeding him grandiose ideas of power that inflated his ego, and he was good at hiding it in his youth, but they slowly got darker and encouraged him to do worse things; then maybe as his power struggle started going wrong, those "visions" turned ugly and slowly drove him to paranoia and insanity. That would have been really cool.
- A little weird they waited until the last book to start developing some of these characters.
- I actually like the conclusion of Nightheart's arc. Him being okay with Firestar's legacy because he's sufficiently carved out his own niche feels like a realistic reflection of maturation. I'm pretty sure the thing about his family suggesting the kits be named Ember, Scorch, and Blaze is supposed to be a joke referencing how uncreative his family is with legacy names.
- I like all the med/warrior names given in this book! They all roll off the tongue nicely and conjur lovely mental images. Majority of the RiverClan cats refer to him as Splashstar.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 9:29:47 GMT -5
what happens to podlight by the end? I may have missed something because idk. I'm going to headcanon he went with the exiles.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 9:30:29 GMT -5
Okay, here’s my overall opinions on everything since a couple people asked now! Anyways, to get straight into it, all of the protagonists were utilized well in this book! Usually, in these protagonist trios, one of the characters end up not doing a bunch, but I think all of them carried their weight. Nightheart spent a decent portion of time being a prisoner in the RiverClan camp; Sunbeam was a glimpse into ShadowClan; Frostpaw stays carrying the plot forward. She’s the one to kill Splashtail, is RiverClan’s connection to StarClan, and puts a new leader into place.
Honestly, I can’t choose between Sunbeam’s and Frostpaw’s chapters. Sunbeam offers a unique perspective (thinking that one can find peace in the Dark Forest by coming to terms with what they are) and holds heavy value to love. When she was grieving for Berryheart, you could really feel it and even though Berryheart was clearly in the wrong, she was willing to fight for her. Her relationship with Nightheart and his family is really sweet and you can really tell she has a heart for helping others.
Frostpaw, of course, is always the one stepping up to the plate. She swims from the gathering island to WindClan’s shore. She’s the one who has the final showdown with Splashtail and ends up almost dying because of it. A heavy burden lay on her shoulders, and even though she started to entertain the idea of staying dead, she came back because her Clan needed her. She had the world on her shoulders and even though she messed up a bit when she was younger, she matured, and is going to stay true to RiverClan.
My biggest issue with the book is that the characters most likely to die are the only ones who die. The death count is two: Splashtail and Berryheart. I guess they wanted to tone down this arc’s ending because The Broken Code’s ending did not hold back. This is definitely a more grounded arc, though I still wonder how Frostdawn managed to beat Splashtail when she’s quite a bit more inexperienced than him when it comes to fighting.
The best thing about the book in my opinion besides Sunbeam and Frostdawn is the side cast. I said in an earlier post that this story has nuance to it and that comes from the characters. We have many standouts in this book: Lightleap, Owlnose, Gorseclaw, and those are just a select few. SO MANY of the characters get fleshed out. Splashtail was absolutely terrifying in this book and it’s sad that he didn't cause any real damage when he was such an intimidating villain.
It was also cool seeing old RiverClan favorites: Crookedstar and Stonefur particularly.
Anyways, I suggest that you all read the book for yourself so that you can form your own opinions! I’m sure some information probably got missed in my summaries. I like to think that Frostdawn found strength in her rage. She's been withholding so much anger since she found out Splashtail was behind everything, including her own attempted murder, and I'd like to believe that that rage gave her the strength she needed to take him out. Aided a little by Lightleap (glad she got some spotlight again, even though her arc feels unfinished with her seeing something earlier. Don't know why they did nothing with that).
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Post by 🎄ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ🎅 on Oct 26, 2024 9:51:11 GMT -5
Okay, here’s my overall opinions on everything since a couple people asked now! Anyways, to get straight into it, all of the protagonists were utilized well in this book! Usually, in these protagonist trios, one of the characters end up not doing a bunch, but I think all of them carried their weight. Nightheart spent a decent portion of time being a prisoner in the RiverClan camp; Sunbeam was a glimpse into ShadowClan; Frostpaw stays carrying the plot forward. She’s the one to kill Splashtail, is RiverClan’s connection to StarClan, and puts a new leader into place.
Honestly, I can’t choose between Sunbeam’s and Frostpaw’s chapters. Sunbeam offers a unique perspective (thinking that one can find peace in the Dark Forest by coming to terms with what they are) and holds heavy value to love. When she was grieving for Berryheart, you could really feel it and even though Berryheart was clearly in the wrong, she was willing to fight for her. Her relationship with Nightheart and his family is really sweet and you can really tell she has a heart for helping others.
Frostpaw, of course, is always the one stepping up to the plate. She swims from the gathering island to WindClan’s shore. She’s the one who has the final showdown with Splashtail and ends up almost dying because of it. A heavy burden lay on her shoulders, and even though she started to entertain the idea of staying dead, she came back because her Clan needed her. She had the world on her shoulders and even though she messed up a bit when she was younger, she matured, and is going to stay true to RiverClan.
My biggest issue with the book is that the characters most likely to die are the only ones who die. The death count is two: Splashtail and Berryheart. I guess they wanted to tone down this arc’s ending because The Broken Code’s ending did not hold back. This is definitely a more grounded arc, though I still wonder how Frostdawn managed to beat Splashtail when she’s quite a bit more inexperienced than him when it comes to fighting.
The best thing about the book in my opinion besides Sunbeam and Frostdawn is the side cast. I said in an earlier post that this story has nuance to it and that comes from the characters. We have many standouts in this book: Lightleap, Owlnose, Gorseclaw, and those are just a select few. SO MANY of the characters get fleshed out. Splashtail was absolutely terrifying in this book and it’s sad that he didn't cause any real damage when he was such an intimidating villain.
It was also cool seeing old RiverClan favorites: Crookedstar and Stonefur particularly.
Anyways, I suggest that you all read the book for yourself so that you can form your own opinions! I’m sure some information probably got missed in my summaries. I like to think that Frostdawn found strength in her rage. She's been withholding so much anger since she found out Splashtail was behind everything, including her own attempted murder, and I'd like to believe that that rage gave her the strength she needed to take him out. Aided a little by Lightleap (glad she got some spotlight again, even though her arc feels unfinished with her seeing something earlier. Don't know why they did nothing with that). I also think that Splashtail was also so frightened by Curlfeather that he wasn’t at his fullest capabilities when fighting. Add that to Frostdawn’s furry he definitely was far from impossible to defeat.
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 10:10:31 GMT -5
I like to think that Frostdawn found strength in her rage. She's been withholding so much anger since she found out Splashtail was behind everything, including her own attempted murder, and I'd like to believe that that rage gave her the strength she needed to take him out. Aided a little by Lightleap (glad she got some spotlight again, even though her arc feels unfinished with her seeing something earlier. Don't know why they did nothing with that). I also think that Splashtail was also so frightened by Curlfeather that he wasn’t at his fullest capabilities when fighting. Add that to Frostdawn’s furry he definitely was far from impossible to defeat. wasn’t lightleap there? i thought she helped frost kill him?
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 10:12:48 GMT -5
Pixie, can you delve a little deeper intio the chapter with Curl and frost? does curl admit remorse or guilt how did they decide to frame her? did she give a monologue?
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 10:17:59 GMT -5
pretty sure that it’s never said that Df cats couldn’t interact with the dead or living like Stc, so it does make sense that curlfeather was interacting but it is left vaugue by the summary and probably will be cleared up by the full book
further more her fake vision probably didn’t amount to anything as who was chosen (icestar) is a obvious choice by frostpaw, plus it doesn’t make sense as curl wouldn’t be vouching for the cat that killed her it doesnt make sense They absolutely can, but that first dream is still pretty unclear given that she was at the moonpool, saw stars in Curlfeather's fur, and Curlfeather told Frostpaw she needed to pick a new leader for RC. After the reveal of Curl's plot (and that she was prob in the DF), we all generally assumed that must have just been a regular dream and not a real vision, but then a similar thing happens in this book where Curlfeather reveals additional information about herself that Frostpaw wouldn't have known. I guess Frostpaw could have just been making it up in her head, but then was the dream with Jayclaw also not really StarClan? Idk, still unclear on that first dream's legitimacy as a "vision" or not.
i think that’s always going to be up to interpretation but i view it as frostdawn never had a real starclan connection until Riverstar intervened (i think this can be supported by the prologue to thunder, “she was never supposed to be a medicine cat”) but seemingly Riverstar picked her himself . i believe it makes most narrative sense that everthing that curl tells frost all the from a kit as proof of her being a med cat are just coincidence or dreams that she had.
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Oct 26, 2024 10:36:56 GMT -5
It was a good enough arc I guess. Tho it still left me with more questions than answers. (I'm typing from phone, sorry if I didn't use the spoiler tag)
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Post by valleylight on Oct 26, 2024 10:41:55 GMT -5
Think I’m going to wait until I’ve read the book to form any concrete opinions on the latter half. The first half sounds absolutely wild, and I’m really excited to read it all! Thanks so much for sharing these spoilers with us Pixie!
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