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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 26, 2024 0:30:08 GMT -5
Maybe I'll have to read the book myself but Splashtail kinda dies...uneventfully? Interesting that he thinks he'll be going to StarClan and I presume he's talking to Curlfeather. Or a manifestation of Curlfeather of some kind.
Also this is only halfway through the book! What on earth are we going to do now? Mull around and discuss Clan politics?
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 0:31:19 GMT -5
Curious as to what they'll do with cats like Fognose who so closely supported Splashtail. They're still gonna be a problem and I doubt they're gonna just sit and be quiet... Unless the writing team makes them for plot's sake.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 26, 2024 0:32:19 GMT -5
Curious as to what they'll do with cats like Fognose who so closely supported Splashtail. They're still gonna be a problem and I doubt they're gonna just sit and be quiet... Unless the writing team makes them for plot's sake. Still got about half the book to go through so perhaps they continue to be a problem for the Clans?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 26, 2024 0:37:18 GMT -5
I can’t stand the mob mentality trope that they always have to throw into Warriors books. Drives me bananas.
That being said. Wow, that was a bit anti-climatic for Splashtail’s death, but maybe it reads more dramatic in the book. Here I was wondering if Lightleap was about to reveal she saw Splashtail kill Reedwhisker all the way back in River (I guess the writers forgot about that).
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Post by کیوان on Oct 26, 2024 0:54:22 GMT -5
How about that. It took halfway through the book to get from point A to point B. I can safely skip to the end, though, knowing they’re going to pull a High School Musical and stick to the status quo.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 0:59:43 GMT -5
Chapter thirteen is updated! Check the og post for it!
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 1:06:55 GMT -5
Fognose and Breezeheart are exiled... Guess that answers my question about them. I guess now all that's left is...a lot of waiting around? Frostpaw needs to heal and talk to StarClan, and we need Ivypool's patrol to return.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 26, 2024 1:07:26 GMT -5
The nap thing, Nightheart has never felt so relatable. And yeah, maybe this means Fognose and Breezeheart will be the final bosses? Or maybe they'll just stay away for good. Either way, it would've been nice if they had been relevant beforehand, especially since Fognose is Splashtail's sister and it's kinda weird they never seemed to call attention to that (or maybe they did and it just wasn't mentioned).
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 1:23:17 GMT -5
I really hope there's more conflict to come. In my opinion, so far, it feels like nothing bad has actually happened. Berryheart died but really, it was deserved and most people aren't gonna be that upset over it. There were plenty of threats thrown around but at the end of the day, it felt like nothing really happened. I expected far more out of this. I am disappointed thus far.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 1:40:48 GMT -5
Chapter fifteen is updated! I'm going to try to go a bit faster because I'm tired and want to go to bed, so the summaries are probably going to be a bit shorter.
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Post by kitters on Oct 26, 2024 1:58:47 GMT -5
I thought splashtail's whole thing was that he didn't like/respect/believe in? Starclan.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 2:05:50 GMT -5
Chapter sixteen has been updated!
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 2:21:14 GMT -5
Chapter seventeen has been updated.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 2:33:56 GMT -5
Feel free to take a break and get some rest if you need to! There's no pressure to get it all done right now.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 2:53:03 GMT -5
Feel free to take a break and get some rest if you need to! There's no pressure to get it all done right now. I appreciate it but I like getting things done in one fell swoop lol. I am on chapter 20/23 right now. :3
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Post by sheedystar on Oct 26, 2024 2:58:40 GMT -5
We so won with Genderfluid/transfem Gorseclaw (I know it’s probably just and error but it’s my new headcanon now lol
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 3:58:34 GMT -5
I am done!! I am excited to see the commentary you guys have.
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Post by brightheartt on Oct 26, 2024 3:59:12 GMT -5
I am done!! I am excited to see the commentary you guys have. What did you think of it?
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 26, 2024 4:45:22 GMT -5
Okay, next chapters! Again, Berryheart did not deserve Sunbeam!
Curlfeather interaction! Yes! But again, poor Frostpaw.
Interesting that Lizardtail and Gorseclaw are considering joining ThunderClan, but after everything this family has been through, don't blame them. And wow, they actually address the overpopulation!
Okay, Nightsky moved too! Interesting!
Yeah, don't blame Frostpaw for being tired at all, and I've really come to like her relationship with Nightheart!
Now I'm just imagining Lizardtail and Gorseclaw just following ThunderClan like lost puppies right after the Gathering! And oh look, Fernstripe! They finally remembered her again!
Nice to see that Frostpaw gets to have at least one conversation with her father. And the singing thing is sweet! Also, Icewing's back!
Aww, Whistlebreeze! And I still think Frostdawn is a lovely name and I'm glad she finally found her true path! And of course, all hail Icestar! I also really like Graysky and Mistypool's names!
And Sunbeam is expecting! I still think the Firestar fixation was weird and unnecessary for this arc, but good on Sunbeam for wanting to look on ahead.
Overall... feels kinda underwhelming, ngl. Like, I'll still read it, of course, but for the villains to get defeated basically halfway through and everyone more or less just waiting around until Icewing comes back towards the end is just... eh. And I'm someone who actually likes it when stories take the time to slow down and let the aftermath of defeating the Big Bad sort of breath, but the execution just feels off here. All that being said, thank you for the spoilers, Pixie, and I hope you enjoyed it!
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Post by 🎄ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ🎅 on Oct 26, 2024 5:08:10 GMT -5
Alright! I finished reading all the summaries! Frostpaw staying in basically a comma for half a month is crazy. I’m guessing she did most of the “killing” blows on Splashtail. Poor baby. The fact that she didn’t even want to come back from StarClna shows she completely had her childhood stolen by RiverClan. She deserved so much better, I’m glad she got her full name and is happy with it. I don’t care if NightSun isn’t for everyone, they are adorable! I’m so glad they are having kits. I’m a little bit sad there wasn’t a higher death count though, but honestly, I’m not disappointed in what this book turned out to be. I love how they brought kit-stealing back, that was brutal of Splashtail. It seemed like Curlfeather was making him go insane before his death, that probably contributed to why he was able to be defeated so early on. Was hoping for Jayfeather to have a fun death, sad he’s still alive I really really hope Icewing is like a mother figure to Frostdawn now. I’m kind of sad it was never revealed Mistystar was poisoned instead of just, well…collapsing at convenient time? Lmao, wanting to hear that Curlfeather poisoned her or something. Oh well… ALSO SOMEONE TOTALLY SAID GRAYPAW WAS GOING TO BE GRAYSKY, I OWE YOU A COOKIE TOO. Thank you again Pixie ! Do you have any thoughts on the book you would like to add?
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My favorite Cures: Passion, Moonlight, and Muse
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Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Oct 26, 2024 5:46:06 GMT -5
Lol at Splashtail thinking he was going to go to Starclan. Nah bro, DF for you. So Splash and Berry bite the dust and Squirrelflight coasts through the arc by doing nothing. Great leadership right there :/ Finchlight and Sparkpelt really out here suggesting Firestar-adjacent names for the kits though? Lessons were not learned apparently, unless Nightheart is okay with Firestar's legacy now. Thanks for the spoilers Pixie!
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Post by Queen Tawnypelt on Oct 26, 2024 6:09:44 GMT -5
So love the summaries but not a huge fan that Squirrelflight isn't dead or lost a single life. If anyone should have died, it should have been her losing a life in the heat of battle but I guess the writers want to appeal to fan service and keep her alive I guess.
Anyway, I do love the fact Icewing is chosen for leader (TAKE THAT PEOPLE ADVOCATING FOR MOTHWING) and that Frostpaw or rather Frostdawn remained a medicine cat and Whistlepaw is now Whistlebreeze (rip to Whistlesong). Also, I'm glad both Graypaw and Mistpaw got proper warrior names as Graysky and Mistpool.
Splashtail's death was a little anticlimactic but I'll read the book if things got lost in the bulletins. Glad to see Owlnose accepting responsibility for denying leadership that allowed Splashtail to rise and that he's now deputy (even though he had no idea what Splashtail was going to be like. Not to mention we have 3 cats going into the Dark Forest this arc: Curlfeather, Berryheart, and Splashtail.
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Post by کیوان on Oct 26, 2024 7:13:31 GMT -5
Okay, can someone explain to me what the whole deal with Gorseclaw and Lizardtail was? Because that scene felt like a big pile of nothing to me .
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 7:22:44 GMT -5
I am done!! I am excited to see the commentary you guys have. What did you think of it? I think the book started off strong, but it’s a bit annoying how only the villains died. And while I was annoyed with how safe of a choice Icewing was for RiverClan’s leader, I think they ultimately needed the stability, so I’m not too against it now. Overall, I enjoyed the book. When compared to TBC’s finale, though, I think it lacks the dramatic flair I greatly enjoyed from that one.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 26, 2024 7:24:41 GMT -5
I really do wish we got more insight into how Sparrowtail and Hollowspring felt about this whole ordeal. Sunbeam's also probably right in that Berryheart's in the Dark Forest, unless they do something like with Mudclaw and put her in StarClan for believing she was doing the right thing.
So Fognose and Breezeheart are exiled. I'm assuming they'll come back into play later on? I'm also assuming that the other RiverClan cats returned to their Clan. I'm quite content with Icewing becoming leader as well! I know she's old, but she's honestly the most qualified cat and at least Owlnose isn't too old himself. I'm glad that he's accepted responsibility and I'm very interested in the kind of deputy he'll be.
Splashtail's death still feels uneventful and the chapters following his death feel like it's only moving forward because of Frostpaw and waiting for her to get out of her coma while waiting for Icewing to return. I was expecting Splashtail's end to be something a little more grandiose, I suppose? I did enjoy him as a villain quite a lot, though I understand the criticisms of his character. I do wish we got more of Curlfeather as a villain, especially with that whole "power will keep you safe" line.
Frostdawn and Whistlebreeze are lovely names! Same with Graysky and Mistpool.
Not surprised with the NightSun kits. I would have preferred if they waited, or perhaps were just a childless couple (eg. TwigxFin). The ship has grown on me but still not their biggest fan, admittedly. But Blaze, Ember, and Scorch as names? Nightheart, now we're just repeating the naming process! Squirrelstar also feels like she did nothing?? Not sure what she's accomplishing as leader right now. I know it's probably copium but I'm still of the mind that she and Bramblestar are lying about what happened at the Moonpool. As a whole the book feels a little underwhelming but I'll wait until I have my hands on it to make a final judgement. In any case, thank you very much Pixie for the summaries and providing spoilers! Would love to know your thoughts on the book when you have the time.
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Post by Silentlight on Oct 26, 2024 7:30:07 GMT -5
what do you think is the strongest scene in the book
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Post by asrise on Oct 26, 2024 7:59:04 GMT -5
Arrrghhh.
It looks like the back half of the book is a bit of a nothing-burger. The villains are dead, and it looks like everyone is kind of sitting on their paws waiting around for Icestar to return of Frostpaw to wake up. I'm disappointed that Curlfeather wasn't able to show Frostpaw what was wrong with RiverClan before the arc, and that she seems to have no problems with Jayclaw at all.
We have the RiverClan cats taking refuge I guess. That's interesting for clan politics, I like that. But I don't think it can carry the rest of the book. Hugely disappointed that no one is really having to take accountability. Hollowspring and Sparrowtail get back to ShadowClan, all the RiverClan cats can just come back (except for fognose? What happens to them?) and no one but the villians dies. Not even Duskfur!
It looks like Icestar just appears at the end and then everything is okay, which I also don't like. Owlnose being deputy still looks ridiculous. Also, what happened to the cats of the park plot? The stuff from Ivypool's Heart? None of it figures into this! Plus, there's stuff like spaying Frostpaw? Why did they do that? I wish they actually tied up some loose ends for a change!
I'm sure it will be better when I get to actually reading it. At least, I hope so. I can't help but feel disappointed by what it looks like is being presented here. (uh oh. i may have to break out the froststar AU i have in cold storage.) Thank you very much Pixie for doing this, I appreciated the spoiler thread and the speed of updates.
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Post by Queen Tawnypelt on Oct 26, 2024 8:03:40 GMT -5
I really do wish we got more insight into how Sparrowtail and Hollowspring felt about this whole ordeal. Sunbeam's also probably right in that Berryheart's in the Dark Forest, unless they do something like with Mudclaw and put her in StarClan for believing she was doing the right thing.
So Fognose and Breezeheart are exiled. I'm assuming they'll come back into play later on? I'm also assuming that the other RiverClan cats returned to their Clan. I'm quite content with Icewing becoming leader as well! I know she's old, but she's honestly the most qualified cat and at least Owlnose isn't too old himself. I'm glad that he's accepted responsibility and I'm very interested in the kind of deputy he'll be.
Splashtail's death still feels uneventful and the chapters following his death feel like it's only moving forward because of Frostpaw and waiting for her to get out of her coma while waiting for Icewing to return. I was expecting Splashtail's end to be something a little more grandiose, I suppose? I did enjoy him as a villain quite a lot, though I understand the criticisms of his character. I do wish we got more of Curlfeather as a villain, especially with that whole "power will keep you safe" line.
Frostdawn and Whistlebreeze are lovely names! Same with Graysky and Mistpool.
Not surprised with the NightSun kits. I would have preferred if they waited, or perhaps were just a childless couple (eg. TwigxFin). The ship has grown on me but still not their biggest fan, admittedly. But Blaze, Ember, and Scorch as names? Nightheart, now we're just repeating the naming process! Squirrelstar also feels like she did nothing?? Not sure what she's accomplishing as leader right now. I know it's probably copium but I'm still of the mind that she and Bramblestar are lying about what happened at the Moonpool. As a whole the book feels a little underwhelming but I'll wait until I have my hands on it to make a final judgement. In any case, thank you very much Pixie for the summaries and providing spoilers! Would love to know your thoughts on the book when you have the time. Regarding the names: that wasn't Nightheart but a suggestion from another cat, Finchlight I think. I swear to god, I'm going to be pissed if they go they route. I would have much preferred him in Shadowclan where he doesn't have to worry about Firestar but they chickened out and was like, 'wait, you have to be okay with being related to the greatest cat who ever lived'.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Oct 26, 2024 8:20:24 GMT -5
Well I'm not overly thrilled with this book but I'm not surprised by that. I feared that would happen. The second half didn't have much going for it except Icestar's leader ceremony and a bunch of new names, and that's just about it. No Cats of the Park, no Wafflepaw (guess he's doomed to follow in Stormcloud's pawsteps), IH's connection to this makes no sense now because the battle was pretty much resolved by the time they got back... There's a lot to be desired here. Not awful but it feels very lacking to me.
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