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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 18:06:02 GMT -5
I'm glad Jayfeather is still alive.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 26, 2024 18:08:25 GMT -5
curlfeather > mapleshade
in terms of villains
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 26, 2024 18:09:54 GMT -5
Here are some more specifics of Frostpaw's visions in chapter eighteen: Frostpaw's visions include a brown scrawny tom. Cats stuck in a storm and a mention of Emberstar. They then turn into Tigerstar and Leopardstar talking about how RiverClan and Shadowclan will be one. They fade to Reedwhisker swearing allegiance to the Kin. OK WAIT
EMBERDAWN/SILVERHAWK PLOT REVISITED?? Or could be the same Emberstar from the beginning of the warrior code! Could narrow a timeline for StormClan
I been saying they should do an SE on whatever the hell was going on with Silverhawk and his son. It sounds like such a fascinating story. |
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Post by 🎄ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ🎅 on Oct 26, 2024 18:11:12 GMT -5
curlfeather > mapleshade in terms of villains AS A MAPLESHADE HATER AND CURLFEATHER LOVER THIS STATEMENT HAS MY FULL SUPPORT🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 |
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 18:12:38 GMT -5
Well, disappointed as always. Icestar means nothing to me, Frostdawn is a terrible name, we had an entire book about how Owlnose was happy about being warrior and not deputy/leader, Splashtail suddenly swaps from "all I want to do is make RiverClan stronger and I don't want nine lives to do it" to a cheap combination of Brokenstar for kidnapping kits and Tigerstar for suddenly wanting to combine both Clans and be the leader of them, Berryheart switches from "Tigerheart shouldn't be leader, Cloverfoot should be, we have to make ShadowClan so it won't fall like Darktail" to "I want to be ShadowClan's leader" with absolutely no prior warning. Nightheart means nothing, Frostpaw spends half the book unconscious and her decision for Icewing to be leader is based on "singing", and of course it ends with pregnant Sunbeam because what's a book without the female lead not being pregnant? Disappointed but not surprised. I heavily disagree with the notion that Nightheart "means nothing", but I mean I understand your annoyances with the series. |
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Post by ruthrush on Oct 26, 2024 18:13:30 GMT -5
So glad to see the trio growing from basically nobody in the first book to the most prominent figures of their generation. Frost already claimed her position, and I look forward to seeing Night/Sun rise to positions of power as well in future arcs.
Where’s Wafflepaw tho? Are they leaving him for the next arc?
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 18:22:21 GMT -5
So glad to see the trio growing from basically nobody in the first book to the most prominent figures of their generation. Frost already claimed her position, and I look forward to seeing Night/Sun rise to positions of power as well in future arcs. Where’s Wafflepaw tho? Are they leaving him for the next arc? Wafflepaw moved to Zimbabwe in the last chapter. |
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Post by Queen Tawnypelt on Oct 26, 2024 18:58:18 GMT -5
So glad to see the trio growing from basically nobody in the first book to the most prominent figures of their generation. Frost already claimed her position, and I look forward to seeing Night/Sun rise to positions of power as well in future arcs. Where’s Wafflepaw tho? Are they leaving him for the next arc? Wafflepaw moved to Zimbabwe in the last chapter. Thank you for the laugh |
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Post by flipwish on Oct 26, 2024 19:07:48 GMT -5
are there any more details on the emberstar mention?
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 19:09:52 GMT -5
Oh, just one last thing Pixie , is there any more mentions of Lightleap after she and Frostdawn tag team Splashtail? Or Blazefire? I don't recall any, but I'll flip through it again to see tomorrow. |
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Post by Pixie on Oct 26, 2024 19:11:28 GMT -5
are there any more details on the emberstar mention? The vision is a bunch of cats struggling through a storm and one of them calls out for Emberstar. It's pretty brief, but the cats are RiverClan. |
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when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on Oct 26, 2024 19:12:28 GMT -5
thanks! even if it's not much, once again, CODE OF THE CLANS SWEEP
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 26, 2024 19:22:03 GMT -5
Thank you Pixie for posting these spoilers!! Honestly I really like the ending too. It's very solid and wraps up the RiverClan problem and everyone's character arcs very nicely. Regardless of who became leader, I'm just glad this little trio are finally at peace. I was genuinely scared they were gonna kill of Frostdawn but I guess it would be too soon after Bristlefrost LOL.
As someone who has a pretty terrible mom too, I was really glad to see Frostdawn and Sunbeam's dysfunctional relationships with their moms represented. It's really uplifting to see them try and heal in their own way from what their moms have done to them. |
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2024 19:31:03 GMT -5
are there any more details on the emberstar mention? The vision is a bunch of cats struggling through a storm and one of them calls out for Emberstar. It's pretty brief, but the cats are RiverClan. Any good Jayfeather scenes? He's my comfort character at this point. |
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Post by stupidflower on Oct 26, 2024 19:32:11 GMT -5
I don’t know if anybody noticed, but our protagonist trio now have connecting names. NIGHTheart, SUNbeam, and now FrostDAWN. Dawn, the period between night and day, when the sun comes up.
I don’t know if that was intentional but it sure is adorable. |
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Post by lightfur on Oct 26, 2024 19:41:13 GMT -5
Here are some more specifics of Frostpaw's visions in chapter eighteen: Frostpaw's visions include a brown scrawny tom. Cats stuck in a storm and a mention of Emberstar. They then turn into Tigerstar and Leopardstar talking about how RiverClan and Shadowclan will be one. They fade to Reedwhisker swearing allegiance to the Kin. OK WAIT
EMBERDAWN/SILVERHAWK PLOT REVISITED?? Or could be the same Emberstar from the beginning of the warrior code! Could narrow a timeline for StormClan
If Emberdawn was Emberstar, then would that imply that Silverhawk tried to kill his own mate? |
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 26, 2024 19:48:54 GMT -5
I don’t know if anybody noticed, but our protagonist trio now have connecting names. NIGHTheart, SUNbeam, and now FrostDAWN. Dawn, the period between night and day, when the sun comes up.
I don’t know if that was intentional but it sure is adorable. OHHHHH I love that. Wait, that's fantastic! |
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Post by Birdskip on Oct 26, 2024 22:06:31 GMT -5
OK WAIT
EMBERDAWN/SILVERHAWK PLOT REVISITED?? Or could be the same Emberstar from the beginning of the warrior code! Could narrow a timeline for StormClan
If Emberdawn was Emberstar, then would that imply that Silverhawk tried to kill his own mate?
I was thinking like after the whole ordeal. silverhawk calls her by a non-leaderly name in tbc
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Post by ledgestar on Oct 27, 2024 0:16:26 GMT -5
Pixie where did you find the book
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Post by duskflower on Oct 27, 2024 2:40:33 GMT -5
Ok just read all the summaries and im shooook. I should have known a sorta AVOS mess was gonna happen but I didnt really think of that before. So glad that Icestar is confirmed- she was truly the only option tbh and the right one. |
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Oct 27, 2024 4:50:22 GMT -5
Podlight isn't exiled with Breezeheart and Fognose, seriously? He knew Splashtail killed Reedwhisker as evidenced by the part in Wind where Splashtail tells him it would be funny if he saw Reedwhisker and that he would like to kill him again. He's the one who allowed Splashtail to become leader by making it look like he saw Riverstar in a dream. And he gets away with it like that, without anyone even asking him for an explanation? That sucks.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Oct 27, 2024 5:01:58 GMT -5
Also, in River, the warrior code was changed to allow a clan to remove its leader if 75% of the members are in favor and the medic cat validates. In Splashtail's case, it was absolutely useless. I expected the rule allowing the removal of a leader to be expanded and improved after Splashtail's death...and no, NOTHING.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Oct 27, 2024 5:10:23 GMT -5
Also, during Icestar's leadership ceremony, Jayclaw could have been replaced by Petalfur. And Pricklekit and Grasspelt could have appeared with her, just like Pikepaw and Primerosepaw appeared with Perchkit when she gave Mistystar a life.
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Post by catto on Oct 27, 2024 5:13:13 GMT -5
So what was the whole point of the clouds covering the sky when Bramblestar handed over leadership to Squirrel then? They acted suspicious about it and then it's never brought up ever again?
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 27, 2024 5:13:27 GMT -5
Also, during Icestar's leadership ceremony, Jayclaw could have been replaced by Petalfur. And Pricklekit and Grasspelt could have appeared with her, just like Pikepaw and Primerosepaw appeared with Perchkit when she gave Mistystar a life. Just because it happened one way during one ceremony doesn't mean it will absolutely happen like that each and every time. |
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 27, 2024 8:23:45 GMT -5
Also, in River, the warrior code was changed to allow a clan to remove its leader if 75% of the members are in favor and the medic cat validates. In Splashtail's case, it was absolutely useless. I expected the rule allowing the removal of a leader to be expanded and improved after Splashtail's death...and no, NOTHING. Ngl I completely forgot about the code change. What was the point of introducing it this arc if they never user it? Maybe they’ll use it next arc, but in that case, it would make way more sense narratively to introduce it after Splashtail was outsed. |
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 27, 2024 8:28:12 GMT -5
Also, in River, the warrior code was changed to allow a clan to remove its leader if 75% of the members are in favor and the medic cat validates. In Splashtail's case, it was absolutely useless. I expected the rule allowing the removal of a leader to be expanded and improved after Splashtail's death...and no, NOTHING. Ngl I completely forgot about the code change. What was the point of introducing it this arc if they never user it? Maybe they’ll use it next arc, but in that case, it would make way more sense narratively to introduce it after Splashtail was outsed. By the end he really didn’t have that much support in RiverClan anyway? They almost certainly could have had him deposed. The only hiccup might be Podlight as the Medicine cat. |
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Oct 27, 2024 8:50:47 GMT -5
Splashtail had threatened to kill Floatkit, Troutkit, and Rapidkit if the RiverClan warriors did not obey. The warrior code should specify that warriors have the right to remove their leader without going through the procedural system if he commits crimes against his Clan cats, and that other Clans can intervene if a leader holds on to power against the will of his Clan members or poses a threat to them.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 27, 2024 9:27:38 GMT -5
Splashtail had threatened to kill Floatkit, Troutkit, and Rapidkit if the RiverClan warriors did not obey. The warrior code should specify that warriors have the right to remove their leader without going through the procedural system if he commits crimes against his Clan cats, and that other Clans can intervene if a leader holds on to power against the will of his Clan members or poses a threat to them. Make sure to use spoiler tags! To be fair, I'm pretty sure RiverClan was no longer following him because they still thought he the rightful leader. They were following him out of fear he'd hurt their kittens. Even with that change to the code, I doubt they would have acted any differently. |
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Post by Dɾҽαɱƈʅσυԃ on Oct 27, 2024 16:42:27 GMT -5
Two days late to the Star spoiler party but better late than never. Thank you, Pixie , for the chapter bulletpoints! Just going to write up some of my initial reaction summaries for each chapter: Chapter 4 (Nightheart) - kinda weird how Splashtail now wants to rule ShadowClan as well, guess power really does go right to the head
- Splashtail holding kits hostage and threatening to kill them is disgusting but not surprising for a villain Chapter 5 (Sunbeam) - fish-licker and webfoot are lowkey weak new cursewords though, foxdung and mousebrain are still peak cat insults
- Sunbeam wanting to save her mother is pointless but I get that she still cares about her Chapter 6 (Frostpaw) - Frostpaw utilizing her swimming abilities, love to see it
- Harestar is back on his being hesitant bs (buddy why? you were doing so good last book!) Chapter 7 (Nightheart) - Splashtail really is out here channeling his inner Brokenstar with the kit stealing tactic being back, like damn, chill out, pal
- him naming Graypaw and Mistpaw Grayslime and Mistsludge is such an immature move too, like be fr Chapter 8 (Sunbeam) - “Every scratch you inflict on my warriors will be carved into your kits”, sure hope Splashtail gets beaten to death
- was waiting for Berryheart to plan on backstabbing Splashtail, so yay there it is
- although I do wonder why she went from wanting Cloverfoot in charge to now being the one to do so
- nevermind, she dead, oh well, to the Dark Forest you go (girl bye, that sure was fast though)
- ‘‘I regret the day I turned back from the Moonpool. I should have taken responsibility. I should have agreed to be RiverClan’s leader. If I had, none of this would have happened”. nah Owlnose, if you had indeed become leader, Splashtail would've either manipulated or killed you
- feeling bad for Sunbeam here but Spireclaw is right that Berryheart did lowkey do this to herself Chapter 9 (Frostpaw) - while imagining Frostpaw side-eyeing Harestar for one entire paragraph is funny, I understand that he's worried about her and just didn't want her to collapse from exhaustion (adrenaline will only get you so far, after all)
- “I’m going to save RiverClan” yes you will <3
Chapter 10 (Nightheart) - Splashtail being haunted by Curlfeather and driven into insanity is truly some sweet karma (you go, queen, drag his disloyal ass down to hell with you!)
- “If you’re not going to kill that mangy squirrel-chaser, I’m going to kill a kit” still waiting for someone to beat Splashtail to death for threatening kits multiple times (as well as all the other shit he pulled), and squirrel-chaser is a weak-ass insult btw (like c'mon, do better) Chapter 11 (Sunbeam) - BREAKING NEWS: Podlight is still a foxheart.
- this chapter honestly already feels like it's close to the finale for some reason
Chapter 12 (Frostpaw) - and now I know why: Splashtail beats up Frostpaw, then Lightleap and then gets beaten (to death kinda, hey my wish came true) by Frostpaw
- he's so delulu thinking he'll go to StarClan and be free from Curlfeather though lmao you wish, sucker
- sorta weird to kill off both final villains mid finale though, like there's still eleven chapters left wth Chapter 13 (Nightheart) - the image of Floatkit (the kit Splashtail kidnapped while fleeing) riding on Harestar's back to camp is simply adorable
- two RiverClan cats got exiled for still being Splashtail apologists (Fognose and Breezeheart) Chapter 14 (Sunbeam) - interesting that Tigerstar II took Sparrowtail and Hollowspring back in (after some convincing from Sunbeam)
- the book has pointed out twice that Berryheart is likely in the Dark Forest (no confirmation so far though) Chapter 15 (Frostpaw) - YAAAAS I was so hoping for one final convo between Frostpaw and Curlfeather, LET'S GO!!!!
- Excited to read their talk when I get the book (even if Curlfeather apparently denies accountability) Chapter 16 (Nightheart) - timeskip of a quarter moon (it's now leaf-bare) and my girl Frostpaw is in a coma NOOOO!?
- still glad that Nightheart's arc ends with him no longer feeling offended for being compared to Firestar as well as him now having a good relationship with his mother Sparkpelt and sister Finchlight
- Gorseclaw and Lizardtail are in ThunderClan now (and Gorseclaw is using multiple pronouns so good for him/her on being genderfluid or whatever lol, still was kinda a jerk for most of this arc though) Chapter 17 (Sunbeam) - excited to read this chapter when I get the book since it's a gathering chapter and I love those
- it's now been half a moon since Splashtail died and Frostpaw is still in a coma, let's be real they are just stalling until Icewing comes back from the mission so Frostpaw can name her leader, like it's pretty obvious at this point Chapter 18 (Frostpaw)/Chapter 19 (Nightheart) - they are not going to kill of Frostpaw (I highly doubt another protag dies so soon after Bristlefrost) Chapter 20 (Sunbeam) - not surprised that Gorseclaw and Lizardtail go back to RiverClan (this was such a nothing sideplot)
- AAAAND NOW FROSTPAW IS WORSE GAHHHH STOP Chapter 21 (Frostpaw) - glad for the Jayclaw cameo (since it means Frostpaw sees both of her parents again in this book)
- her being brought back by the spiritual singing sure is something
- Oh hi Icewing, I hear you're getting a promotion! Chapter 22 (Frostpaw) - sis is fine again and gets a gorgous name too <3 (love Frostdawn, so glad it wasn't Frostshine) - WAIT, wait, Whistlebreeze for Whistlepaw? YAY, I'm pretty sure I wanted that to be her name - Stonefur cameo my beloved <3 - Congrats to Icestar! - Owlnose got a second chance at being deputy (slay, I suppose) - Graysky and Mistpool?! I called that ( proof lol) - “For the first time in a long time, she was looking forward to tomorrow” my girl sure was depressed (same though) Chapter 23 (Nightheart) - sidenote but I feel like this final book should've ended with Frostdawn's chapter ngl)
- not surprised at Sunbeam expecting Nightheart's kits
- LOVE the themed name ideas of Blaze-, Ember- and Scorch- for the kits (literal perfection)
- again, good for Nightheart on overcoming the pressure he felt about Firestar's legacy All in all, I'm personally very excited to read this book myself when it comes out. |
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