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Post by کیوان on May 30, 2024 19:33:12 GMT -5
Interesting how they’ve managed to say so much about CS and Moonpaw without spoiling ASC. I just hope Star ends well at this point, because I’m admittedly a little nervous. Curious about how Moonpaw will differentiate from other young protagonists, appearance aside.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 30, 2024 19:41:27 GMT -5
IVYPOOL IS A GRANDMOTHER! WOOO!
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Post by wygolvillage on May 30, 2024 19:45:59 GMT -5
WHAT? A chimera? That's so cool. I was so worried we'd be dealing with another gray she-cat... Curse broken... I always love a calico design. I like how having her face split down the middle sort of represents the split paths they were alluding to.
Disappointed but not surprised she's ThunderClan, intrigued to see where they go with her regardless. The secret rank is intriguing but I suspect medicine cat, we've had a medicine cat POV pretty consistently for YEARS.
In terms of temporary POVs I suspect the older characters will be the ones getting switched around.
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Post by Slightdapple on May 30, 2024 20:18:20 GMT -5
Ooh, chimera, tortie, and heterochromia? Not what I was expecting, but cool. She's not a WC cat unfortunately, but hey, at least she's not a NightSun kit.
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Post by 🎄ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ🎅 on May 30, 2024 21:31:20 GMT -5
NAH ERINS GOT CREATIVE IN CHARACTER DESIGN???? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE??????? |
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Post by kitters on May 30, 2024 21:41:58 GMT -5
So the dark voice inside her head is definitely the sibling she ate in the womb right?
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Post by wygolvillage on May 30, 2024 23:24:53 GMT -5
Based on the official design and the twin theory I've drawn up my own little headcanon design (hopefully it's alright to share art? lmk if this belongs somewhere else KDJHDFKJH) Despite appearances, the orange one is the "evil twin" ;)  |
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Dɾҽαɱƈʅσυԃ
Villain Enjoyer
Excited to read Star! (very late to the party, I know)
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Post by Dɾҽαɱƈʅσυԃ on May 31, 2024 6:11:36 GMT -5
Love her design but her parentage is not it for me. Still not a fan of NightSun as a ship but their names would been so fitting with Moonpaw as their daughter.
So glad she's a tortie and not yet another grey cat though (was kinda worried about that due to the name and the series' tendency to have quite a few gray protagonists).
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Post by Frostdawn on May 31, 2024 8:57:09 GMT -5
Moonpaw’s design is really cool. Best part is that it’s pretty much confirmed that there are going to be changing pov’s this arc probably like Brambleclaw, Stormfur, Feathertail, and Squirrelflight were with TNP.
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Post by Mintystem on May 31, 2024 10:12:03 GMT -5
I just hope Star ends well at this point, because I’m admittedly a little nervous. I believe Kate said Frostpaw is her favorite character after writing Star, that brings my hopes up |
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Post by lazzylake on May 31, 2024 11:22:05 GMT -5
wygolvillage YEAAHH THAT'S SO COOL!! Love your art so much! I forgot to share my Moonpaw concept designs here (this was before her official release) Concept #1 (I really wanted her to be albino) Concept #2 (For the possibility of Moonpaw was a NightSun kit, oh how wrong we were)
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Post by wygolvillage on May 31, 2024 11:36:02 GMT -5
wygolvillage YEAAHH THAT'S SO COOL!! Love your art so much! I forgot to share my Moonpaw concept designs here (this was before her official release) Concept #1 (I really wanted her to be albino) Concept #2 (For the possibility of Moonpaw was a NightSun kit, oh how wrong we were) I really like the crescent shapes you used :0 These are very cute designs. Albino would have been pretty cool! |
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 31, 2024 11:45:56 GMT -5
I do think it's funny that the narrative will admit that "Moon" as a suffix gives specialest snowflake vibes and that's exactly what her parents intended.
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on May 31, 2024 20:00:47 GMT -5
Interesting how they’ve managed to say so much about CS and Moonpaw without spoiling ASC. Especially in contrast to the Thunder, Wind, and Star blurbs! |
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 1, 2024 15:57:36 GMT -5
Not gonna like, kinda hoping that she goes slowburn antagonist route by the end of the arc, and we get a POV that becomes evil by the end of it, that would be fun. Make Moonpaw even more dramatic than she already is with her very dramatic design.
Which, I can’t shade, I mean, I’ve got a hundred fanclan oc’s in the Five Clan rp I’m in, I’m sure mine are just as dramatic lmao
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 1, 2024 15:59:47 GMT -5
Also, somebody mark this now, but if Moonpaw somehow becomes Moonblaze, I’ll go wild and probably do a kickflip or something, I better get monetary reward if I get a canon Moonblaze in this timeline XD
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Jun 1, 2024 17:16:05 GMT -5
Interesting description, if it out there… I was reminded of an old fanfiction I read where someone had a cat with a similar description to her, but instead of being treated as someone special she was treated a curse, abused, and eventually went into self exile. She later get adopted by another Clan, and becomes the leader, but only after the old leader dies unexpectedly in a battle that shouldn’t have happened. It also ends up with a battle between someone that used to be her best friend, and she manages to win, but the cost of his life. It didn’t much further into what effect that had on her, but it was stolen interesting story. So it’s interesting to see someone do the opposite with it.
I hope they won’t do another repeat of Nightheart and shaking off legacy, but I’m wondering what they will do instead. I don’t think we’ve had a protagonist to act like a spoiled brat and then eventually had to be taught some manners, but it would be interesting if we did, especially since this arc shows how important legacy is. It would be interesting if that finally got to someone, but overembracing it instead of running away.
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Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jun 1, 2024 19:41:03 GMT -5
She's so adorable!  I'm not too thrilled with her father being Bayshine. He and Thriftear are too closely related. |
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Post by stormshade1 on Jun 2, 2024 10:14:39 GMT -5
Did you know that Moonpaw is not, in fact, the first cat in the series to have heterochromia. The first one was a BloodClan cat from Rise fo Scourge that appeared to have siamese markings, and was one of the cats who Tiny told about the 'dog' that he had defeated. After they had watched Tiny drive away the big dog, they joined BloodClan. This cat's left eye was yellow and their right was blue.
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Post by warriorcatfan22 on Jun 12, 2024 11:28:40 GMT -5
This pairing doesn't make any sense what so ever bayshine amd thriftear have never interacted in page before they had the perfect opportunity to make Sunbeam and nightheart moonpaws parents but they didn't it doesn't help that bayshine and thriftear are first cousins either bayshine and thriftear are also background characters that have no relevance to the story the writers probably pulled two random names out of a hat and made the two characters mates basically
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Asexual
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The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jun 12, 2024 22:37:46 GMT -5
OMG SHE'S SUCH A CUTIE!!! I can't believe the Erins got creative with character design for onceeee I'm so happy there's not a gray protag anymore <33 |
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Post by Katanaheart on Jun 13, 2024 16:01:48 GMT -5
This pairing doesn't make any sense what so ever bayshine amd thriftear have never interacted in page before they had the perfect opportunity to make Sunbeam and nightheart moonpaws parents but they didn't it doesn't help that bayshine and thriftear are first cousins either bayshine and thriftear are also background characters that have no relevance to the story the writers probably pulled two random names out of a hat and made the two characters mates basically Thriftear at least has personality. She should have been paired with another tom that’s not related to her though. *Chucks Stormcloud.* I’m also happy it’s not SunXNight considering what a train wreck the latter is. I already have to deal with Squirrelstar, so let’s not continue the “Firestar’s my relative plot line,” despite the fact most cats are related to him at this rate. Moonpaw and both of her parents included. Although ASC has been eager to ignore the fact that Bayshine and Nightheart were both related to Firestar. |
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Jun 14, 2024 7:00:14 GMT -5
Interesting description, if it out there… I was reminded of an old fanfiction I read where someone had a cat with a similar description to her, but instead of being treated as someone special she was treated a curse, abused, and eventually went into self exile. She later get adopted by another Clan, and becomes the leader, but only after the old leader dies unexpectedly in a battle that shouldn’t have happened. It also ends up with a battle between someone that used to be her best friend, and she manages to win, but the cost of his life. It didn’t much further into what effect that had on her, but it was stolen interesting story. So it’s interesting to see someone do the opposite with it. I hope they won’t do another repeat of Nightheart and shaking off legacy, but I’m wondering what they will do instead. I don’t think we’ve had a protagonist to act like a spoiled brat and then eventually had to be taught some manners, but it would be interesting if we did, especially since this arc shows how important legacy is. It would be interesting if that finally got to someone, but overembracing it instead of running away. the fact i know the exact fanfic you're talking about- |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2024 12:07:51 GMT -5
This pairing doesn't make any sense what so ever bayshine amd thriftear have never interacted in page before they had the perfect opportunity to make Sunbeam and nightheart moonpaws parents but they didn't it doesn't help that bayshine and thriftear are first cousins either bayshine and thriftear are also background characters that have no relevance to the story the writers probably pulled two random names out of a hat and made the two characters mates basically Thriftear at least has personality. She should have been paired with another tom that’s not related to her though. *Chucks Stormcloud.* I’m also happy it’s not SunXNight considering what a train wreck the latter is. I already have to deal with Squirrelstar, so let’s not continue the “Firestar’s my relative plot line,” despite the fact most cats are related to him at this rate. Moonpaw and both of her parents included. Although ASC has been eager to ignore the fact that Bayshine and Nightheart were both related to Firestar. As happy as I am about Ivypool being a grandmother... If Moonpaw was a NightSun kit, we would have avoided all of this in the first place. Like you said, at least they put Thriftear with a cat that at least has a personality, ya know over some random background cat that hasn't had lines for arcs. But like I don't think it's really worth it. Moonpaw is basically incest central, and Bay x Thrift is probably one of the most complicating incestual pairings we've had in a long time. I've even seen people count that Moonpaw is related to Firestar like 4 times alone; Twice because she's Lionblaze's great-grandaughter on BOTH her parents' side, and BOTH her parents are descended from Cloudtail too (Thriftear through Ivypool and Bayshine through Dewnose). Not to mention, Thriftear and Bayshine are first cousins... Her design is cool and all, but she's basically a jumbled mess... And at least NightSun would have given us new blood in the clan, although I'm pretty sure they might have kits regardless anyways. I'm still baffled as to why Stormcloud was just practically forgotten by the writers, but I guess he's an ace king, good for him. |
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Post by kitters on Jun 14, 2024 15:08:44 GMT -5
Thriftear at least has personality. She should have been paired with another tom that’s not related to her though. *Chucks Stormcloud.* I’m also happy it’s not SunXNight considering what a train wreck the latter is. I already have to deal with Squirrelstar, so let’s not continue the “Firestar’s my relative plot line,” despite the fact most cats are related to him at this rate. Moonpaw and both of her parents included. Although ASC has been eager to ignore the fact that Bayshine and Nightheart were both related to Firestar. As happy as I am about Ivypool being a grandmother... If Moonpaw was a NightSun kit, we would have avoided all of this in the first place. Like you said, at least they put Thriftear with a cat that at least has a personality, ya know over some random background cat that hasn't had lines for arcs. But like I don't think it's really worth it. Moonpaw is basically incest central, and Bay x Thrift is probably one of the most complicating incestual pairings we've had in a long time. I've even seen people count that Moonpaw is related to Firestar like 4 times alone; Twice because she's Lionblaze's great-grandaughter on BOTH her parents' side, and BOTH her parents are descended from Cloudtail too (Thriftear through Ivypool and Bayshine through Dewnose). Not to mention, Thriftear and Bayshine are first cousins... Her design is cool and all, but she's basically a jumbled mess... And at least NightSun would have given us new blood in the clan, although I'm pretty sure they might have kits regardless anyways. I'm still baffled as to why Stormcloud was just practically forgotten by the writers, but I guess he's an ace king, good for him. I would be OK with the incest thing if they were going to try and use it to fix the problem but there's no way they're addressing incest in the books and it's so glaringly obvious it's getting weird. Especially since the cats themselves will acknowledge each other as cousins. |
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Post by Woofzie on Jun 15, 2024 0:05:53 GMT -5
Sorry but, I reaally hate the "the voice she hears is the sibling she absorbed/ate in the womb" theory.
Like... we are talking about a mass of cells, not even a formed, complete fetus. The whole process happens very early in pregnancy, there's no way I can believe a zygote reached a whole level of consciousness/personality before being "absorbed".
Other than that, I don't mind her design and it's an absolute breath of fresh air that there's no plain gray protagonist.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jun 15, 2024 15:44:27 GMT -5
Sorry but, I reaally hate the "the voice she hears is the sibling she absorbed/ate in the womb" theory. Like... we are talking about a mass of cells, not even a formed, complete fetus. The whole process happens very early in pregnancy, there's no way I can believe a zygote reached a whole level of consciousness/personality before being "absorbed". Other than that, I don't mind her design and it's an absolute breath of fresh air that there's no plain gray protagonist. I think by the logic the others are going with Moonpaw’s sibling is essentially a still-born spirit. So she’s the equivalent to one of Squirrelflight’s kits or Leopardfur’s siblings. (I never remember if it was Dandelion or Juniper that was still born.) They died with no experience or air to breathe but still have spirits. Except of not being born, the spirit of Moonpaw’s sibling simply stuck around similar to Cinderheart/Cinderpelt. I don’t agree or disagree with the Moonpaw sibling theory wholly but I do want something that isn’t Dark Forest or StarClan related, in which the Moonpaw sibling theory offers an alternative to the two options that are more likely. |
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jun 16, 2024 17:15:48 GMT -5
i have an alterate Moonpaw theory, someone remind me to type it up later when I have computer access
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jun 17, 2024 9:52:34 GMT -5
thank u to those who liked my post to remind me
So my theory: instead of having dual consciousness in some weird DID imitation, what if Moonpaw did absorb a littermate in the womb, but in doing so also "absorbed" the littermate's destiny as her own?
I'm calling way back to Code of the Clans, and the story of Smallstar, Wolfheart, and Runningstorm, the three WindClan kits who drowned in the gorge due to RiverClan's refusal to rescue them. The story reveals that cats can have destinies that are never realized; in this case, three kits who were destined to be warriors (and a leader) but never became so due to their untimely death. As Smallstar (as a spirit) says, "We are the cats that would have been." (I am aware that COTC's canon is considered dubious now, but bear with me).
Moonpaw, if she is a chimera, could have at some point absorbed a littermate in the womb. What if that littermate was meant to be born and have a destiny, but perished before it could be realized, just like Smallstar and his siblings? What if Moonpaw, as a chimeric combination of two cats, has two different destinies that she is pulled toward fulfilling, but cannot fulfill both of them because they are at odds? E.g., feeling called to be both a warrior and a medicine cat. Or feeling called to be both villain and hero.
I'm skeptical that the editors would think of something like this, but it would be such a cool use of her chimeric appearance and mystery surrounding her destiny.
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