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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 15, 2024 18:09:17 GMT -5
Dang, I almost got faked out when I saw Quiet Rain. I thought it was about Shadowstar's Life (Quick Water, a name I get confused on often) rather than Forest Divided. Funny how that works. It is easy to get them confused, I used to mix them up too.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 15, 2024 18:17:42 GMT -5
I love Skystar, but yeah, no, she was absolutely justified.
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Post by moongloweevee on Apr 15, 2024 18:41:33 GMT -5
Justified! She shouldn't have forgiven Clear Sky in the end but seeing her disown own him the first time on a read was sweet, sweet justice after what he had done.
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Post by lightfur on Apr 15, 2024 18:43:11 GMT -5
Justified. (she shouldn't have forgiven him honestly.)
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Post by 🎃👻 Slightdapple 👻🎃 on Apr 15, 2024 19:32:07 GMT -5
Justified.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Apr 15, 2024 19:51:58 GMT -5
Completely justified. I wish she hadn't forgive him. Clear Sky deserved absolutely nothing
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 15, 2024 20:01:02 GMT -5
Completely justified. I wish she hadn't forgive him. Clear Sky deserved absolutely nothing Yeah, I couldn't believe the way they just dismissed it all with "it was foretold," removing all accountability from Clear Sky's choices. Just to force Quiet Rain to forgive him and try to justify it to the reader.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 16, 2024 18:04:15 GMT -5
With 20 votes for Justified and 2 votes for Unjustified, Quiet Rain is Justified! First justified one in a while.
Next scenario: Swiftpaw: In A Dangerous Path, Swiftpaw grows unhappy with Bluestar’s refusal to make the apprentices warriors, despite that they’re long overdue. He decides to prove himself by finding out what the threat at Snakerocks is, and Brightpaw goes with him. The dogs find them and kill him and maul Brightpaw. Was Swiftpaw justified in searching out the threat?
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Post by moongloweevee on Apr 16, 2024 19:54:06 GMT -5
I'm going to go with unjustified in the end. This scenario is rather a tricky one to discuss because he had every right to feel angry that he didn't get his warrior name just yet due to Bluestar descending into madness. He shouldn't have taken matters into his own paws though and tried to seek what was killing the wildlife.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Apr 17, 2024 2:30:32 GMT -5
Unjustified. If anything he proved he wasn't actually ready to be a warrior in that moment.
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Post by Pixie on Apr 17, 2024 8:20:12 GMT -5
This is a hard one to answer. If anyone was unjustified in this situation, it was Bluestar. However, I'll ultimately go with unjustified for Swiftpaw. He did something reckless, ended up dying, and Brightheart lost half her face.
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Post by mintleaf2 on Apr 17, 2024 9:40:50 GMT -5
I have to agree with the above, Bluestar was in a bad state and is in the wrong for denying the ceremony, but I don’t know that I’d say Swiftpaw is justified/not justified. He was rightfully angry but it wasn’t the right response because not only did it put himself in danger, it put Brightpaw in danger too.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 17, 2024 18:05:27 GMT -5
With 0 votes for Justified and 17 votes for Unjustified, Swiftpaw is Unjustified! I know this one was a little difficult, but I try not to go for really obvious ones too often. This one was far more unanimous than I expected.
Next scenario: Stormfur: In Sunset, after Brook accidentally chases prey onto ShadowClan territory, Hawkfrost reports her to RiverClan with the intention of getting her and Stormfur exiled. He uses her violation of the warrior code, as well as Mothwing’s dream, to gain support for his claim that Brook does not belong there. He tells them to return to the Tribe. Stormfur attacks Hawkfrost in a rage, and Leopardstar exiles Stormfur and Brook as a result. Was Stormfur justified in attacking Hawkfrost?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 17, 2024 19:16:31 GMT -5
Hawkfrost was a lil b*tch and lowkey deserved it, but attacking a clanmate for saying meanie things about your mate is a bit over the top imo. Had he kept a more level head, he might have been able to talk Leopardstar out of it, but he lost his credibility and higher ground with that move.
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Post by Pixie on Apr 17, 2024 19:32:32 GMT -5
Unjustified. Stormfur let his emotions get the best of him and made the situation worse.
And Hawkfrost in the end got what was coming to him. As the wise copied words of Jojo Siwa say, “Karma’s a b*itch.”
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Post by lazzylake on Apr 17, 2024 23:44:24 GMT -5
Unjustified. Stormfur let his emotions get the best of him and made the situation worse. And Hawkfrost in the end got what was coming to him. As the wise copied words of Jojo Siwa say, “Karma’s a b*itch.” Hawkfrost should have never effed around 😭
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Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 18, 2024 11:33:01 GMT -5
Unjustified. Stormfur let his emotions get the best of him and made the situation worse. And Hawkfrost in the end got what was coming to him. As the wise copied words of Jojo Siwa say, “Karma’s a b*itch.” Can't believe this song is haunting me even on the battle cat forums lmao (help). Seriously though, sis and her little bought "bad girl" era bs song is everywhere right now, I just can't escape it. But yeah, Hawkfrost really effed around and found out in the end, didn't he lol?
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Post by moongloweevee on Apr 18, 2024 11:36:43 GMT -5
I went with justified mainly because Hawkfrost was looking for an excuse to kick them out of the clan as he was afraid Stormfur would get the deputy position if Mistyfoot died. As far as I'm aware, no single cat has ever been kicked out of a clan before just because they chased prey over borders- punished and given a stern talking to, but never banishment. Plus Brook wasn't used to clan rules at this point so Stormfur had every right to be angry
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 18, 2024 18:03:32 GMT -5
With 12 votes for Justified and 9 votes for Unjustified, Stormfur is Justified!
Next scenario: Talltail and Shrewclaw: In Tallstar’s Revenge, during a battle with ShadowClan, Talltail and Shrewclaw work together to attempt to kill Cedarstar. They believe that Cedarstar was responsible for the death of Shrewclaw’s mother, Brackenwing, in a prior battle with ShadowClan. This attempt leads to Shrewclaw’s death in turn. Were Talltail and Shrewclaw justified in trying to kill Cedarstar?
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Apr 19, 2024 6:07:50 GMT -5
I love shrewclaw and totally get why he did it, but it wasn’t justified. However, it wasn’t justified for shadowclan to kill brackenwing in the first place.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 19, 2024 8:55:39 GMT -5
Unjustified. Directly goes against the warrior code.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 19, 2024 18:46:14 GMT -5
With 1 vote for Justified and 19 votes for Unjustified, Talltail and Shrewclaw are Unjustified!
Sorry this is late it's been such a busy day
Next scenario: Flametail: In The Last Hope, Jayfeather seeks out Flametail in StarClan to get him to tell the other medicine cats that Jayfeather did not drown him. However, when he finds him, Flametail is upset with Jayfeather, and even refuses to help when he gets stuck in mud. Only when Spottedleaf tells him off does Flametail help Jayfeather and explain to the medicine cats that he is innocent. Was Flametail justified in his bitter response to Jayfeather?
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Post by moongloweevee on Apr 19, 2024 18:55:35 GMT -5
Flametail is unjustified because iirc Jayfeather wanted to save him but wss told by Rock to let go. I think we got that from his perspective as well.
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Post by lazzylake on Apr 19, 2024 20:34:58 GMT -5
As much as I love my guy Flametail he is very unjustified for this. It feels so out of character from how he’s viewed thus far that he almost feels like someone else entirely. I suppose (this is just a speculation) that he was still anxious over his encounter with the Dark Forest and fading away, so he had to project that paranoia onto someone. And also the canon reasoning that he was mad at Jayfeather for his death. It still doesn’t make his behavior anymore valid but a more reasonable explanation for his frustration would’ve been nice.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Apr 19, 2024 22:10:43 GMT -5
Unjustified. Flametail was just a jerk anyway
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Post by kitters on Apr 20, 2024 0:12:24 GMT -5
Highly justified because anyone giving jayfeather a hard time is deserved and I enjoyed seeing him be a d*ck to him. He had a moment of pettiness like it happens.
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 20, 2024 17:17:10 GMT -5
I won't be updating this tonight because I'm busy (just started editing Warriors Wiki again which is eating up time that I already barely had lol) and I need to work on my scenario list, I don't like what's left. Plus I want this to roll over until tomorrow so I can start resetting the polls at a more convenient time.
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Post by Sundance on Apr 20, 2024 18:25:48 GMT -5
Unjustified. Jayfeather tried earnestly to save Flametail, even if he failed. Flametail was being petty and callous in response. My favorite fan art of that scene by Mizu-no-Akira
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 21, 2024 12:04:38 GMT -5
With 0 votes for Justified and 18 votes for Unjustified, Flametail is Unjustified!
Current poll will reset at 3pm tomorrow.
Next scenario: Berryheart (pre-Wind): In Thunder, Berryheart challenges Tigerstar’s leadership during a Gathering. She cites his takeover of RiverClan, accusing Tigerstar of greed, which she believes will destroy ShadowClan. The fact that Tigerstar honors the new code that allows cats to switch Clans factors in as well. In the end, she leaves ShadowClan. Was Berryheart justified in attempting to depose Tigerstar?
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Post by Whispering Willow on Apr 22, 2024 14:22:57 GMT -5
With 10 votes for Justified and 7 votes for Unjustified, Berryheart is Justified!
Next scenario: Cinderpelt: In Rising Storm, ThunderClan finds two ShadowClan warriors, Littlecloud and Whitethroat, sheltering in their territory. They are both seriously ill, having caught the sickness ravaging ShadowClan. Despite Fireheart’s warnings and knowing that Bluestar would disapprove, Cinderpelt nurses the two sickly warriors back to health. Was Cinderpelt justified in helping Littlecloud and Whitethroat?
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