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Post by แฆฯ๊ ธแฅด๊ซแ ป๊ช๊ชแง on Dec 20, 2023 17:19:35 GMT -5
And how many more lives would she have taken before she let go? Or if she let go at all? She was old, and she shouldn't have been fighting in that battle, according to pretty much everyone apart from Shadowclan. There's certainly ways to prevent a fight without killing one of them. He killed her by accident though and felt extremely guilty after. All Lionblaze meant to do was pull her off Firestar.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 20, 2023 21:56:16 GMT -5
There's certainly ways to prevent a fight without killing one of them. He killed her by accident though and felt extremely guilty after. All Lionblaze meant to do was pull her off Firestar. I think itโs inferred that Lionblaze trying to pull her off Firestar wouldnโt have killed her if she wasnโt so old and frail (iirc?), which means he wasnโt using typically deadly force.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 20, 2023 21:56:58 GMT -5
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Post by {Azure} on Dec 20, 2023 22:03:57 GMT -5
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Non-binary
flipwish
when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on Dec 23, 2023 10:17:20 GMT -5
My hot take which isn't as hot as in the paat but I'm guessing is still at least a little hot on wcrpforums given the previous page's conversation is that gray wing is legitimately just terrible. like fanon and canon gray wing are two different characters at this point and canon gray wing sucks. he's just a miserable guy and every time I reread a DotC book there's something new about him that annoys me. or even whenever a new dotc book releases- he's as insufferable as always in riverstar's home.
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Post by rabbit on Dec 23, 2023 11:32:20 GMT -5
My hot take which isn't as hot as in the paat but I'm guessing is still at least a little hot on wcrpforums given the previous page's conversation is that gray wing is legitimately just terrible. like fanon and canon gray wing are two different characters at this point and canon gray wing sucks. he's just a miserable guy and every time I reread a DotC book there's something new about him that annoys me. or even whenever a new dotc book releases- he's as insufferable as always in riverstar's home. I agree with this one. I canโt stand the lengths he goes through to still have a good relationship with his piece of sh*t brother.
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Post by valleylight on Dec 25, 2023 17:36:32 GMT -5
Velvet (AVoS) isnโt a bad character. Sheโs kind, capable, and helpful, and her bringing along a comfort toy was a sweet and realistic detail for a house cat. Sheโs pretty narratively irrelevant, and I can totally understand readers being annoyed by yet another love interest subplot, and disliking her for that. But her characterization isnโt poor. It was nice to see a kittypet character care for the Clans, while ultimately returning to the house folk and way of life she loved. She reminds me of Cody from TNP.
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Post by thewinterblaze on Jan 1, 2024 14:50:16 GMT -5
Yeah, im talking about tumblr. Some ass said that bramblestar Stans should end game themselves. This fandom need stop being so goddamn toxic over kittycat Tumblr is a hot ****ing mess. I wouldn't touch that shithole with a 100 mile long pole. There was a post on there the other day saying all Bramblestar fans were child abusers or some bullshit like that.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 2, 2024 15:36:34 GMT -5
I'm on Warriors Tumblr and it's genuinely not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Sure, people on there can be rude, but just as much as they can be here. I've had great experiences there and I've only seen great interactions there, and I see a lot of blogs, so I'm not just in one little corner.
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Post by Chicken on Jan 3, 2024 14:12:31 GMT -5
Threads like this are made for me, I have some spicy hot takes that a lot of you won't be able to handle, but that's okay, because it's good we're all able to form our own opinions about things, now onto the hot takes...
1. I like Stick the cat and could understand his POV. 2. Mudclaw was wronged and he obviously wasn't thinking clearly when he reacted after what seemed to be the most impotant thing in his life was taken from him. 3. Tallstar x Jake doesn't seem like that solid of a pairing, when I read Tallstar's Revenge, it seemed completely one-sided on Tallstar's end. 4. SkyClan's Destiny is the best SE I've read. 5. TBC was lame and overrated. 6. Ravenwing did nothing wrong. 7. Forbidden relationships should have remained a thing. It completely undoes the structure of the clans to allow them. BTW my opinions on this series don't reflect my opinions pertaining to things in real life. 8. Only WindClan cats should be able to catch rabbits, that's what made them special in the first place but with forbidden relationships, I guess it makes sense why none of the clans are really unique anymore. 9. Foxheart isn't that bad, what did she do other than be mean to Yellowfang? It wasn't like they were ever friends in the first place. 10. Pebbleshine is a lame character and her novella was even more lame. 11. I don't care that everyone in ThunderClan power is related to Firestar, I think there has been more Tiger-kin in power, and shouldn't that be more of an issue? To give the villain a bit of what he wanted? 12. I have always and will always like Tigerheart. 13. I don't really care much for the magical powers aspect of the series. 14. Power of Three was my least favorite arc, and the only thing that stopped me from quitting it was Lionblaze's POV. 15. Thrushpelt and Bumblestripe kind of parallel each other in a way. Both are cats who are in love with a cat from their own clan, but that cat is in love with a cat from another clan, and neither of them really take it to extreme measures with getting rejected. I wonder if Bumblestripe would have said Dovewing's kits were his if he was in that position? I put that as a hot take, because everyone seems to love Thrushpelt for some reason, but they dislike Bumblestripe, and I don't really see much difference between the two except Bumblestripe seems a little more interesting.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 3, 2024 16:40:23 GMT -5
8. Only WindClan cats should be able to catch rabbits, that's what made them special in the first place but with forbidden relationships, I guess it makes sense why none of the clans are really unique anymore. I kinda want to touch on this one, because I've seen it mentioned before. It's not merely catching rabbits that made WindClan special. I recently re-read TPB and non-WindClan cats catching rabbits happens several times, including Firestar (IIRC that's what he catches Yellowfang when they first meet in ITW when he's only an apprentice). There's a whole thing where the ThunderClan mentors teach the apprentices the "rabbit hears you, mouse feels you" thing. What makes WindClan unique is that they're able to catch rabbits out in the open. Most clan cats have to rely on undergrowth to get very close to rabbits wherein it's often too late for them to run away. WindClan doesn't have that, and so they had to perfect the art of stalking closely without much cover and having to cover much more ground in a burst of speed in order to catch them. Its the circumstances under which they hunt rabbits that matters.
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Post by Chicken on Jan 3, 2024 17:29:07 GMT -5
8. Only WindClan cats should be able to catch rabbits, that's what made them special in the first place but with forbidden relationships, I guess it makes sense why none of the clans are really unique anymore. I kinda want to touch on this one, because I've seen it mentioned before. It's not merely catching rabbits that made WindClan special. I recently re-read TPB and non-WindClan cats catching rabbits happens several times, including Firestar (IIRC that's what he catches Yellowfang when they first meet in ITW when he's only an apprentice). There's a whole thing where the ThunderClan mentors teach the apprentices the "rabbit hears you, mouse feels you" thing. What makes WindClan unique is that they're able to catch rabbits out in the open. Most clan cats have to rely on undergrowth to get very close to rabbits wherein it's often too late for them to run away. WindClan doesn't have that, and so they had to perfect the art of stalking closely without much cover and having to cover much more ground in a burst of speed in order to catch them. Its the circumstances under which they hunt rabbits that matters. That actually makes a lot of sense, I didn't think about that. Thanks for giving me this perspective of this topic
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Post by โฒฯฮนะบฮฑฦฯ
ััโฒ on Jan 3, 2024 18:06:26 GMT -5
Bluestar was a good leader until Tigerclaw's betrayal.
She was also very good representation of mental illness. People hate on her for that, and it baffles me
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Post by rabbit on Jan 5, 2024 9:43:59 GMT -5
Give me a sec to get ready to fight the mob of angry people but- Bright x Cloud is overrated. Yeah, I guess itโs kind of cute, but people give it a lot of attention and act like itโs the greatest thing ever. You see them together a bit in the background in TPB and TNP but after that, I donโt really remember much about them, and they faded into the background. Also, I just donโt really like Brightheart in general. Now if you excuse me I will hid in my bunker so the angry mobs wonโt get me Oh boy another Brightheart disliker. To add to this, it really irritated me how she wouldnโt communicate how she was feeling to her own mate about how uncomfortable she was with Daisy. Literally, all the other characters who notice she is upset try communicate to Cloudtail for her, she doesnโt say a thing besides be all passive-aggressive.
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Bisexual
Capybaracoat
Itโs time to blast Mariah Carry every where.
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Post by Capybaracoat on Jan 5, 2024 9:59:14 GMT -5
Give me a sec to get ready to fight the mob of angry people but- Bright x Cloud is overrated. Yeah, I guess itโs kind of cute, but people give it a lot of attention and act like itโs the greatest thing ever. You see them together a bit in the background in TPB and TNP but after that, I donโt really remember much about them, and they faded into the background. Also, I just donโt really like Brightheart in general. Now if you excuse me I will hid in my bunker so the angry mobs wonโt get me Oh boy another Brightheart disliker. To add to this, it really irritated me how she wouldnโt communicate how she was feeling to her own mate about how uncomfortable she was with Daisy. Literally, all the other characters who notice she is upset try communicate to Cloudtail for her, she doesnโt say a thing besides be all passive-aggressive. Thatโs another thing made me dislike her, paired with the fact that Cloudtail mostly communicates for her. Itโs like Brightheart doesnโt understand you need to have communication in a relationship.
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Agender
Gambler
Sunningrocks is RiverClan territory. So sue me.
Pronouns: She/her, They/them.
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Post by Gambler on Jan 5, 2024 16:31:53 GMT -5
Out of the topic, but if ya'll are gonna spoil please for the love of god use spoiler tags or I'll basically just have no reason to finish any super editions!!!
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Agender
Gambler
Sunningrocks is RiverClan territory. So sue me.
Pronouns: She/her, They/them.
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Post by Gambler on Jan 5, 2024 16:35:50 GMT -5
Oh, I think a few people might hate on this, but I really think Mudclaw deserved to be in Starclan. His role was literally just taken from him without warning, and it was announced by FIRESTAR that Onewhisker would become leader. I remember very vividly about this that I was pure LIVID that it was allowed that Mudclaw would just be taken of his leadership, and I know this wasn't meant to be insulting, when Onestar offered Mudclaw to continue being deputy it just felt like he meant it in such a SMUG WAY. Me personally, although Mudclaw is super feisty, he would have made a WAYYY better leader than Onestar if it weren't for the reason I can't remember him being chosen as leader for. Now if you'll excuse me I have opinions I need to bug people with.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jan 5, 2024 16:37:12 GMT -5
Out of the topic, but if ya'll are gonna spoil please for the love of god use spoiler tags or I'll basically just have no reason to finish any super editions!!! Spoiler tags are usually only used for books which are less than a month old. The last one came out back in September of last year.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jan 5, 2024 16:50:15 GMT -5
Oh boy another Brightheart disliker. To add to this, it really irritated me how she wouldnโt communicate how she was feeling to her own mate about how uncomfortable she was with Daisy. Literally, all the other characters who notice she is upset try communicate to Cloudtail for her, she doesnโt say a thing besides be all passive-aggressive. Thatโs another thing made me dislike her, paired with the fact that Cloudtail mostly communicates for her. Itโs like Brightheart doesnโt understand you need to have communication in a relationship. Honestly, I agree with the Brightheart thing. I actually love her relationship with Cloudtail, but wow did the drama between them annoy me in TNP, especially when it could've been solved with one conversation (actually, this goes for many other things in this series)! I get being insecure, I really do, but at some point, she should've taken the initiative, especially given how confused Cloudtail was. What's worse though is that this subplot was really only to fuel Leafpool's story, just so she'd have yet another reason to run away with Crowfeather when she did.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 5, 2024 16:53:42 GMT -5
Thatโs another thing made me dislike her, paired with the fact that Cloudtail mostly communicates for her. Itโs like Brightheart doesnโt understand you need to have communication in a relationship. Honestly, I agree with the Brightheart thing. I actually love her relationship with Cloudtail, but wow did the drama between them annoy me in TNP, especially when it could've been solved with one conversation (actually, this goes for many other things in this series)! I get being insecure, I really do, but at some point, she should've taken the initiative, especially given how confused Cloudtail was. What's worse though is that this subplot was really only to fuel Leafpool's story, just so she'd have yet another reason to run away with Crowfeather when she did. honestly, considering how normalized communication issues and non-confrontational passive aggressiveness are in relationships, its unfortunately not that surprising to see them pop up so often in these books. there's a lot of people who just assume that's a normal thing for couples to do and would find it relatable. meanwhile the other half of society reads it and thinks it's the dumbest waste of time subplot.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jan 5, 2024 17:05:16 GMT -5
Honestly, I agree with the Brightheart thing. I actually love her relationship with Cloudtail, but wow did the drama between them annoy me in TNP, especially when it could've been solved with one conversation (actually, this goes for many other things in this series)! I get being insecure, I really do, but at some point, she should've taken the initiative, especially given how confused Cloudtail was. What's worse though is that this subplot was really only to fuel Leafpool's story, just so she'd have yet another reason to run away with Crowfeather when she did. honestly, considering how normalized communication issues and non-confrontational passive aggressiveness are in relationships, its unfortunately not that surprising to see them pop up so often in these books. there's a lot of people who just assume that's a normal thing for couples to do and would find it relatable. meanwhile the other half of society reads it and thinks it's the dumbest waste of time subplot. Which is why it's among my least favorite tropes. I get miscommunication can drive a plot, but especially in this case, it just felt really unnecessary.
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Agender
Gambler
Sunningrocks is RiverClan territory. So sue me.
Pronouns: She/her, They/them.
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Post by Gambler on Jan 5, 2024 17:12:05 GMT -5
Out of the topic, but if ya'll are gonna spoil please for the love of god use spoiler tags or I'll basically just have no reason to finish any super editions!!! Spoiler tags are usually only used for books which are less than a month old. The last one came out back in September of last year. But it would still seem fair to those who haven't finished all the series, but if that's true then okay.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jan 5, 2024 17:20:19 GMT -5
Spoiler tags are usually only used for books which are less than a month old. The last one came out back in September of last year. But it would still seem fair to those who haven't finished all the series, but if that's true then okay. Maybe, but most people here are already all caught up on the books in one way or another (be it through reading the books themselves or via spoiler threads). It just seems unrealistic to expect people to still put spoiler tags for books that have already been out for awhile now. Exactly how far along are you?
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Agender
Gambler
Sunningrocks is RiverClan territory. So sue me.
Pronouns: She/her, They/them.
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Post by Gambler on Jan 5, 2024 17:22:37 GMT -5
But it would still seem fair to those who haven't finished all the series, but if that's true then okay. Maybe, but most people here are already all caught up on the books in one way or another (be it through reading the books themselves or via spoiler threads). It just seems unrealistic to expect people to still put spoiler tags for books that have already been out for awhile now. Exactly how far along are you? I wasn't suggesting that this was for me, because I am finished the series.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jan 5, 2024 17:45:34 GMT -5
Maybe, but most people here are already all caught up on the books in one way or another (be it through reading the books themselves or via spoiler threads). It just seems unrealistic to expect people to still put spoiler tags for books that have already been out for awhile now. Exactly how far along are you? I wasn't suggesting that this was for me, because I am finished the series.ย Ah, okay. You said, So I was under the impression you still had some books to catch up on, even if just SEs. It's nice you're trying to look out for other people, but yeah, unless the rule gets an extension, spoiler tags are only for a new book and really only last for a month. It's also kinda rare for someone to join without them at least being a good ways into the series first (at least the first four arcs).
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Post by lightfur on Jan 7, 2024 11:01:16 GMT -5
Excluding Mapleshade, nobody in MV should be in the Dark Forest except for maybe Oakstar.
Frecklewish is not a innocent baby. She shouldn't be in the dark forest, but she didn't do nothing wrong. She called the kits "half-clan creatures". (I feel like her being put in the dark forest contributed to people seeing her as that.)
There are good reasons not to like Millie as a character, but some people hate her for really silly ones. (Being a replacement for Silverstream and not wanting to change her name. I would see people disliking her over them all the time back in the day, especially for the first reason.)
Oakfur should have died a long time ago. On one hand, I want him to become the new Mistystar because I think it would be funny, but on the other hand he's litterly been through the yellowcough outbreak in the greencough outbreak in Sky. (And also was a part of The Kin.) The writers have had multiple opportunities to kill him off at his point.
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Post by Wolfyy- on Jan 8, 2024 22:51:17 GMT -5
You know, I'd actually be down for Breezestar after Harestar. Breezepelt had his share of crap in his life. Personally, I enjoyed his redemption in CT. It would be nice to see him become a leader after everything he's been through. He wasn't a good cat for a long time. But I really love flawed characters.
I also really like Clear Sky.
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Post by {Azure} on Jan 9, 2024 19:18:08 GMT -5
Velvet (AVoS) isnโt a bad character. Sheโs kind, capable, and helpful, and her bringing along a comfort toy was a sweet and realistic detail for a house cat. Sheโs pretty narratively irrelevant, and I can totally understand readers being annoyed by yet another love interest subplot, and disliking her for that. But her characterization isnโt poor. It was nice to see a kittypet character care for the Clans, while ultimately returning to the house folk and way of life she loved. She reminds me of Cody from TNP. i for one don't dislike velvet but i do think her introduction was a tiny bit pointless
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Post by valleylight on Jan 9, 2024 19:36:52 GMT -5
i for one don't dislike velvet but i do think her introduction was a tiny bit pointless Agreed. She doesnโt have much reason to exist, but Iโm glad she does!
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