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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 13:19:01 GMT -5
So Duskfur retired and is now leader because Tigerstar likes her? No because she's qualified or something? Can't say I'm surprised. Though, this means that Frostpaw's mother (Curlfeather), uncle (Owlnose), great-grandmother (Icewing), and now her other grandmother (Duskfur) have been leaders of RiverClan now! At this rate, Podlight is going to end up replacing Mothwing as the medicine cat or become leader himself. Or Brackenfur. Though given Wind's blurb, Duskfur is going to be a very short lived leader.
Also, good for Sunbeam! I always found her kind of bland, but I'm liking her much more now. I'm glad she's finding her place in ThunderClan. duskfur and squilf are two cats who should have a short lived leaderships and are struck down for a dictatorship/tyrannical style of leadership.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 27, 2023 13:21:07 GMT -5
I haven’t read super editions in a hot minute, but I wonder if reading Riverstar’s Home will enhance the reading experience of Thunder.
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Post by Spinestar on Oct 27, 2023 13:23:06 GMT -5
I haven’t read super editions in a hot minute, but I wonder if reading Riverstar’s Home will enhance the reading experience of Thunder.It Absolutely Will - Exponentiates The Enjoyment of Reading Thunder
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Post by Hazelstrike on Oct 27, 2023 13:23:20 GMT -5
YES YESS CALLING OUT THE CLANS NONSENSE!! But poor Frostpaw, this is devastating for her trust, her own mother using her and being behind it all. The dogs death really was fitting way to go for what she done.
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Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Oct 27, 2023 13:24:25 GMT -5
Guess she really is in the DF huh?
Scary part is that she almost got what she wanted. But Splashtail is still alive and this just confirms that Duskfur is on his radar now.
And FINALLY Starclan gives answers instead of being vague about it. Thank you Riverstar for being that much more helpful than literally anyone else so far.
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Post by Hazelstrike on Oct 27, 2023 13:26:31 GMT -5
I do wonder about Riverstar method of clan life will go over well with the current clans who already are much better at dealing with conflict compare to constantly going to war.
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Post by Poppysong on Oct 27, 2023 13:32:52 GMT -5
Wow this is all crazy! It makes me wonder if Curlfeather had something to do with Jayclaw's death.
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Post by 「Wιитεяичgнт」 on Oct 27, 2023 13:39:04 GMT -5
oh man... I didn't want to be right... Poor Frostpaw.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 27, 2023 13:39:05 GMT -5
I know the dogs who killed Curlfeather were likely a coincidence. Unless Splashtail can somehow "speak dog", which I doubt though. But like, him really turning on Curlfeather and somehow causing her death could still be possible (probably not, but he was likey not sad to be rid of her due to his own ambitions).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 13:40:34 GMT -5
oh my god poor poor frostpaw, this broke my heart beyond belief. she’s so young and dealing with so much.
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Post by jennie on Oct 27, 2023 13:40:57 GMT -5
im so curious what curlfeather's motive was, did she.. just want power?? i can't think of any other reason she wouldn't want reedwhisker to lead, aside from maybe not liking that mistystar's own son was deputy..
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Post by کیوان on Oct 27, 2023 13:41:18 GMT -5
I know the dogs were likely a coincidence. Unless Splashtail can somehow "speak dog", which I doubt though. But like, him really turning on Curlfeather and somehow causing her death could still be possible. I mean, Quiet Rain found a way to get dogs to attack Shadowstar and Sun Shadow, so it’s very much possible.
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Post by Hazelstrike on Oct 27, 2023 13:43:09 GMT -5
im so curious what curlfeather's motive was, did she.. just want power?? i can't think of any other reason she wouldn't want reedwhisker to lead, aside from maybe not liking that mistystar's own son was deputy.. My thing is, she would have to go to the moonpool and starclan wasn't going to give her a pass but then remember Tigerstar 1 and Brokenstar still got 9 lives even after killing
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 27, 2023 13:43:29 GMT -5
I know the dogs were likely a coincidence. Unless Splashtail can somehow "speak dog", which I doubt though. But like, him really turning on Curlfeather and somehow causing her death could still be possible. I mean, Quiet Rain found a way to get dogs to attack Shadowstar and Sun Shadow, so it’s very much possible. Tigerstar I and Ashfur also pulled similar stunts with dogs. Difficult, but definitely not unheard of.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 13:43:53 GMT -5
I know the dogs were likely a coincidence. Unless Splashtail can somehow "speak dog", which I doubt though. But like, him really turning on Curlfeather and somehow causing her death could still be possible. I mean, Quiet Rain found a way to get dogs to attack Shadowstar and Sun Shadow, so it’s very much possible. same with tigerstar, it could be through blood trails or something to lead the dogs to kill curlfeather - we’ve seen this many times.
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Post by stupidflower on Oct 27, 2023 13:47:07 GMT -5
I really hope my theory still stands. That Reedwhisker was Duskfur's mate and Curlfeather's father. It establishes a connection and possible resentment.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 27, 2023 13:47:21 GMT -5
کیوان , Hollyfall and @silverpaws You're all completely correct. Looks like my brain decided not to work properly today lol. So yeah, Splashtail most likely turned on Curlfeather and got rid of her via the dogs, is what I'm thinking now.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 27, 2023 13:49:38 GMT -5
Well, looks like someone is about to take the worst parent of the year award lmfao.
I mean we all kinda knew, but it is very unfortunate, I feel really bad for Frostpaw. But at the same time this is very interesting, her story is kinda a parallel to Nightheart's. Where as Nightheart's path in life was cats comparing him too much to his previous kin and him struggling to figure himself out. Frostpaw finds out her path was manipulated the whole time by people she's loved and trusted, it's actually quite devastating.
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Post by flipwish on Oct 27, 2023 13:50:14 GMT -5
so now my question is: did curlfeather have a hand in jayclaw's death too? I hope she did because it would add points to her silly girlboss score
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Post by Hazelstrike on Oct 27, 2023 13:55:28 GMT -5
it's nightheart isn't it for RC leader. Someone like the park cats and someone who she trust completely. There not a single RC I can think of who fits this yet. I doubt she would be like it's me 😭
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Post by stupidflower on Oct 27, 2023 14:01:51 GMT -5
It's surreal to see this confirmed after over a year. I was always an avid believer in evil Curlfeather, and given that this is the first arc I've been with since the beginning and awaiting in real time, it's nice to see my first real guess was right. My Frecklewish-Leopardstar theory and Mapleshade involvement theory seems less likely the closer we get to the end, but now that we know Curlfeather is in the Dark Forrst I hope we see her interact with Mapleshade, especially if my theory on Curlfeather being the daughter of Reedwhisker and a descendant of Appledusk is correct. I want to know if Duskfur was ever actually involved. It seems likely now that she may not have been. I wonder if it was as big a conspiracy as we thought or just Curl and Splash acting alone. It's also interesting that Curlfeather clearly manipulated Splashtail. This was mostly her idea, not his. I guess she has a track record of manipulating kids. I feel horrible for Frostpaw. I've been holding out hope that Curlfeather wasn't intentionally manipulating her, but from the way she talks about her daughter, that hope is gone. It seems she cared more about herself than Frostpaw. Now that I think about it, we rarely saw Curlfeather with Mistpaw and Graypaw. It may be fair to say that Curlfeather never really cared much for any of her kits. I think Frostpaw can be undoubtedly crowned as most suffering protagonist. At least Shadowsight had parents who love him. Curlfeather may be rivaling Rainflower for worst mother honestly. Now I really want Jayclaw to show up. I'm not surprised he didn't see Frostpaw, given that Riverstar likely restricted who could see her, but I really want to know what he thinks and I want him to be there for her. What his mate did and what happened to his kits is probably horrible for him, too. Berryheart is pretty bad too. If Spinestar doesn't post the spoilers too soon I might make a list of cats I think will be her target in Sunbeam's last chapter. This book is wild. Unless they completely fumble the last two books, this will definitely be my favorite arc.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 27, 2023 14:07:32 GMT -5
My Frecklewish-Leopardstar theory and Mapleshade involvement theory seems less likely the closer we get to the end, but now that we know Curlfeather is in the Dark Forrst I hope we see her interact with Mapleshade, especially if my theory on Curlfeather being the daughter of Reedwhisker and a descendant of Appledusk is correct.
I believe Kate first mentioned having them related on her allegiance list that she gets from the editors, but it was never put into the books. But if that's true, then jeez, Curlfeather was willing to kill her own father for the sake of ambition. Not to mention if she had a hand in killing Jayclaw...
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Post by yuki on Oct 27, 2023 14:11:59 GMT -5
poor frostpaw bro
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Post by Robinblaze on Oct 27, 2023 14:29:34 GMT -5
So glad frostpaw finally realized how bad the clans are, poor baby needs a hug. frostpaw is officially my favorite protagonist this arc
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 27, 2023 14:36:06 GMT -5
Chapter 18: You go, Sunbeam! Passing her final trial and standing up to not only Cherryfall, but also Berryheart. She even reported Berryheart to Squirrelstar. I'm still worried about Berryheart`s plan, though. We know she does something to get exiled. Also, Duskfur is an elder now? Since when? She was still a warrior last book. Did she retire during this book? She must have! Chapter 19: I was hoping that the Curlfeather is evil theory wasn't true. Poor Frostpaw. :c So Curlfeather is in the DF? So the dream of seeing her with stars in the fur was just that? A dream? I'm assuming. Unless DF cats now have stars in their fur.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 27, 2023 16:16:21 GMT -5
Just caught up with the spoilers y'all, happy to be here! I feel like the editors sending Nightheart with Frostpaw was also a plot to get Sunbeam more familiarized in ThunderClan without relying on Nightheart the whole time. Whatever their intentions were, it was brilliant and I love how Sunbeam built relationships and trust with her new clanmates and developed on her own. It's vastly different from Nightheart in ShadowClan, where his goal was closer to leaving ThunderClan than actually wanting to join ShC, and I really enjoyed it.
The Curlfeather plot twist was amazing. I hope the next two books will be part of Frostpaw rebuilding her relationships and finding out who she really is. I can't wait for more development for my babygirl.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 27, 2023 16:18:10 GMT -5
The development this book for all three protags was incredible. I'm hoping that the next two books will involve shenanigans with the whole trio working together to prevent war and bring stability to RiverClan, as well as finishing development for themselves.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 27, 2023 16:25:45 GMT -5
Holy cow
I don’t think any of us anticipated Curlfeather masterminding the entire thing and being the one to employ Splashtail. That twist about the meaning of her words is just so good, we all just assumed she was trying to be good, not that she was trying to manipulate her daughter.
Wow. This is fantastic
Actually, Curlfeather being involved had been theorized even back when River was still new. Still doesn't make this any less heartbreaking, though, but I agree, great twist all around.
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Post by brightheartt on Oct 27, 2023 16:27:44 GMT -5
Holy cow
I don’t think any of us anticipated Curlfeather masterminding the entire thing and being the one to employ Splashtail. That twist about the meaning of her words is just so good, we all just assumed she was trying to be good, not that she was trying to manipulate her daughter.
Wow. This is fantastic
Actually, Curlfeather being involved had been theorized even back when River was still new. Still doesn't make this any less heartbreaking, though. oh yeah I definitely thought she was involved the moment she tried to cover up Reedwhisker’s scratches in River, but I just mean I didn’t assume she would be the mastermind. I just thought she was answering to someone else and perhaps had a change of heart at moment of death (Eg the “warning” she gave her daughter)
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