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Post by lazybramble on Apr 22, 2023 11:43:21 GMT -5
Finaly preview on edelweiss, can't wait of June to find out thief's identity BOOP |
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 22, 2023 11:57:18 GMT -5
Poor Brightheart for not getting an apprentice, but I love how sweet Cloudtail was being. Her judging Longtail and Bramblepaw for their connection to Tigerstar really caught me off guard, though! She's the last cat who would come to mind that would do that. Then again, she also suspected that Graystripe took another mate from outside the Clan in GV and she's pregnant, so maybe it's not that surprising after all. |
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She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Apr 22, 2023 11:58:32 GMT -5
Saw the preview yesterday on Edelwiss+.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 12:10:01 GMT -5
On page 30 and 32, is that cat on the (presumably) lost cat sign supposed to be Firestar? |
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Official Queen of Fan Clans
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Easing back in
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 22, 2023 13:07:59 GMT -5
I'm really hating this paranoia and prejudice Brightheart has. I get to a degree, but with her thinking, she would need to be wary of more than just Brambleclaw and Longtail. (She would have to be wary of Dustpelt, Ferncloud, and Goldenflower.) Hopefully, she gets rid of it real quick. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 14:01:22 GMT -5
Read through the whole thing now: I have to agree that I'm not the biggest fan of the doubt plotline either. I definitely get why she feels this way, her fears are valid. However, it feels a bit rehash-y of A Shadow in Riverclan where Feathertail didn't trust Leopardstar, and Sasha after finding out her relations with Tigerstar. |
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🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
Sorcerer Supreme
thank you kate cary
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Apr 22, 2023 14:04:37 GMT -5
Finaly preview on edelweiss, can't wait of June to find out thief's identity BOOPHello fellow bramble of the forums |
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🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
Sorcerer Supreme
thank you kate cary
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Apr 22, 2023 14:05:27 GMT -5
I really hope we get some sort of conformation that Whitewing is named after Whitestorm. It's heavily implied but nobody explicitly said anything.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
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All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 22, 2023 14:12:07 GMT -5
Read through the whole thing now: I have to agree that I'm not the biggest fan of the doubt plotline either. I definitely get why she feels this way, her fears are valid. However, it feels a bit rehash-y of A Shadow in Riverclan where Feathertail didn't trust Leopardstar, and Sasha after finding out her relations with Tigerstar. At least with Feathertail, I'd say it was far more valid, at least when it came to Leopardstar. |
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Post by finland on Apr 22, 2023 14:13:13 GMT -5
Poor Brightheart for not getting an apprentice, but I love how sweet Cloudtail was being. Her judging Longtail and Bramblepaw for their connection to Tigerstar really caught me off guard, though! She's the last cat who would come to mind that would do that. Then again, she also suspected that Graystripe took another mate from outside the Clan in GV and she's pregnant, so maybe it's not that surprising after all. The Erins forgot to give her one |
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Arcane Season 2 has got me in a chokehold once again (do not send help)
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Apr 22, 2023 14:13:14 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing this on here! Starting right off with nightmares about the dogs, Swiftpaw's death and getting her injury, poor Brightheart...
I love the BrightCloud dynamic as per usual and that they go out hunting together seemingly a lot <3
Firestar my beloved highlighter orange kitty, I'm always glad to see you <3
Her not getting an apprentice here is to be expected since we already knew that from the main series but still unfortunate for her. She really deserved another chance at mentorship after losing Jaypaw as her apprentice!
Brightheart not fully trusting Longtail as well as Bramblepaw is certainly an interesting story concept here even though it seems obvious that neither of these two are sus (for now in Bramble's case considering his storyline in the second half of TNP which he did overcome)...
Ashfur (99% sure that's him now after spotting him in one of those preview pages by James L. Barry previously) and Thornclaw arguing like that was fun(ny) to see. Especially considering that these two were shown to be (good) friends in TNP.
Sister moment between Brightheart and Cinderpelt my beloved <3 Congrats on becoming parents, BrightCloud!
Sibling moment between Bramblepaw and Tawnypaw (once again my beloved). Longtail and Oakfur are kinda babysitting them here lmao.
Firestar was acting lowkey sussy after he immediately went out to "take care of something/patrol". Although it's most likely just the SkyClan stuff considering that quest happened after he made Brambleclaw a warrior.
Lol to Brightheart basically stating what has been said quite a bit in parts of the fandom over the years. Firestar naming Brambleclaw after his murderous father Tigerclaw (to reclaim the suffix kinda) was certainly...an idea.
Wait, Ashfur is kinda smiling at Brambleclaw in that one frame where the Clan cheers for him rofl. He's totally never going to hate you in a few years (if even less), Brambles...
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 22, 2023 14:16:32 GMT -5
One thing I will say in favor of the doubt plotline is that Brightheart is at least a victim of Tigerstar's actions, so I appreciate they chose her and ran with a plot hat would make sense. However, I wouldn't say I like how she is so quick to doubt others when she is doubted for her injuries. (For different reasons, of course.) If they wanted a doubt plotline, I feel like they should have done it without giving the feeling that Brightheart's character is about to take a massive hit for the sake of MONEY. This period has just a little bit established, so take more risks than: "this cat is the son of a tyrant, and that cat was an old friend to the tyrant and publicly went against him." |
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Post by stupidflower on Apr 22, 2023 14:18:16 GMT -5
I’m mostly excited about Sootpaw and Rainpaw having designs lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 14:20:37 GMT -5
Read through the whole thing now: I have to agree that I'm not the biggest fan of the doubt plotline either. I definitely get why she feels this way, her fears are valid. However, it feels a bit rehash-y of A Shadow in Riverclan where Feathertail didn't trust Leopardstar, and Sasha after finding out her relations with Tigerstar. At least with Feathertail, I'd say it was far more valid, at least when it came to Leopardstar. I can agree with that. The conflict in ASiR makes more sense too because Leopardstar is even still Feathertail's leader after the whole thing. So of course there'd be distrust. I think Brightheart's trauma is definitely understandable and her feelings are valid, but from a story perspective we just witnessed this in Feathertail's story, and we also even saw this in Firestar's story. He didn't totally trust Longtail or Brambleclaw right away either.
It's a little disappointing if I'm being honest. But I also don't want to jump to conclusions too quickly considering this is only a preview. |
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Post by valleylight on Apr 22, 2023 15:34:41 GMT -5
In the first panel on page 22, is the first/topmost speech bubble meant to be spoken by Cloudtail instead of Brightheart? I was genuinely really confused, thought I’d missed a panel or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 15:41:27 GMT -5
In the first panel on page 22, is the first/topmost speech bubble meant to be spoken by Cloudtail instead of Brightheart? I was genuinely really confused, thought I’d missed a panel or something. I noticed that as well. I assume that it's meant to be spoken by Cloudtail. |
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Apr 22, 2023 15:57:13 GMT -5
I screamed when they said "there is a thief among us" Poor Brightheart for not getting an apprentice, but I love how sweet Cloudtail was being. Her judging Longtail and Bramblepaw for their connection to Tigerstar really caught me off guard, though! She's the last cat who would come to mind that would do that. Then again, she also suspected that Graystripe took another mate from outside the Clan in GV and she's pregnant, so maybe it's not that surprising after all. Trauma can make even the kindest people behave wildly different. Remember, Tigerstar's plot with the dogs ended with one of her closest friends getting mauled to death and she herself was scarred for life, with even her personality transforming for a long while. We know that Longtail stopped being an asshole and that Brambleclaw is innocent of his father's crimes, but all you need is an association for your mind to start making connections and casting judgement. And it's not always rational. Brambleclaw makes sense, he's the spitting image of the guy. Longtail... less so, considering she doesn't seem to mind Dustpelt, but she's also much closer in age to him and might consider him a peer she trusts. |
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Warrior Fanatic
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 22, 2023 15:59:01 GMT -5
I screamed when they said "there is a thief among us" Poor Brightheart for not getting an apprentice, but I love how sweet Cloudtail was being. Her judging Longtail and Bramblepaw for their connection to Tigerstar really caught me off guard, though! She's the last cat who would come to mind that would do that. Then again, she also suspected that Graystripe took another mate from outside the Clan in GV and she's pregnant, so maybe it's not that surprising after all. Trauma can make even the kindest people behave wildly different. Remember, Tigerstar's plot with the dogs ended with one of her closest friends getting mauled to death and she herself was scarred for life, with even her personality transforming for a long while. We know that Longtail stopped being an asshole and that Brambleclaw is innocent of his father's crimes, but all you need is an association for your mind to start making connections and casting judgement. No, I understand that. That doesn't mean I have to like it. I also don't get why you're singling me out when I wasn't even the only one who commented against Brightheart's behavior anyway. |
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 22, 2023 19:14:48 GMT -5
Yay! Thanks for sharing. c: I'm so happy to be seeing more content of Brightheart and Cloudtail. I've always like them. That dream at the beginning was sad, though. Lol at Cloudtail's reaction over Brightheart thanking StarClan after catching some prey.
I'm so happy that we get to see the apprentice ceremonies of Sorrel, Rain and Soot. Interesting that it has only been two moons since the BloodClan battle. Especially given that Ferncloud was still an apprentice there and is already a queen here. She and Dustpelt certainly worked fast...
Also, Willowpelt looks kind of old in my opinion. I liked that they remembered that Longtail was Sootpaw's first mentor. They also remembered that Whitestorm mentored both Sandstorm and Brightheart. Poor Brightheart not getting an apprentice. She really wanted one and we all know that never happens considering Jaypaw switched to being a medicine cat. And yay on Brightheart saving Sootpaw from a Thunderpath.
And the prey has started to go missing already. Also, pregnant Brightheart! We also have Frostfur making an appearance, just like I wanted her to.
A moon has passed and Bramblepaw and Tawnypaw are talking on the border about becoming warriors soon. Also, Longtail and Oakfur. Needless to say, we are already on Firestar's Quest. Firestar acting odd here is because he's seeing the SkC cats. And we get to see Brambleclaw's warrior ceremony again... as well as a horrified Brightheart reacting to the suffix. Another thing to note, is that Rainpaw looks absolutely adorable playing with that butterfly. Unfortunately, it's not long before Willowpelt's death. |
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🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
Sorcerer Supreme
thank you kate cary
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Apr 22, 2023 20:07:45 GMT -5
Sootpaw being existent here reminds me... isn't is sad he suffered the same fate as his mother? Poor cat probably had a fear/trauma with badgers, and when his Clan needs him, he faces it all to fight... only to meet the same fate, but arguably worse.
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Apr 22, 2023 20:53:29 GMT -5
My thoughts: -Why does Greystripe always look so tired in the graphic novels lmao
-Firestar is acting kinda sus
-Poor Brightheart
-I knew Longtail was a brown tabby, I knew it!
-Why did they give us so many pages for free they gave us like half the book |
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Apr 22, 2023 21:29:24 GMT -5
I screamed when they said "there is a thief among us" Trauma can make even the kindest people behave wildly different. Remember, Tigerstar's plot with the dogs ended with one of her closest friends getting mauled to death and she herself was scarred for life, with even her personality transforming for a long while. We know that Longtail stopped being an asshole and that Brambleclaw is innocent of his father's crimes, but all you need is an association for your mind to start making connections and casting judgement. No, I understand that. That doesn't mean I have to like it. I also don't get why you're singling me out when I wasn't even the only one who commented against Brightheart's behavior anyway. You were "singled out" because I couldn't be assed to hit quote for every single person making the same general point while on mobile, I suppose. Congratulations, you're our lucky winner! |
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Post by Munasiga on Apr 22, 2023 21:30:22 GMT -5
Well someone finally noticed that Firestar gave Bramblepaw his father's name, huh. and the scene Brightheart wants her apprentice eagerly is little sad. Where has her warrior apprentice gone dammit
(+) Brightheart singing her song in page 50 is so adorable! |
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Apr 23, 2023 18:50:36 GMT -5
@mudgoose I was wondering the same thing about that sign too! It would be a cute easter egg if it was Firestar. There's a pretty good chance it's not a coincidence, considering what the cat looks like lol.
Is Brightheart singing a little song? That's so cute, it makes me wish there were more scenes like that in the books <33 |
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Apr 23, 2023 19:09:19 GMT -5
It’s pretty sad reading about Brightheart wanting an apprentice when I know she never got one  . At least she gets to help Cloudtail out with Rainpaw. |
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 24, 2023 9:28:49 GMT -5
It's a pretty funny visual bit of foreshadowing that Ashfur is fighting over a squirrel that isn't his here.
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Post by Flamefrost on Apr 24, 2023 10:07:28 GMT -5
I think Brightheart's fear makes sense to be fair. Longtail was attached to the hip to Darkstripe and Tigerstar, and there was never any proof that he wasn't a part of the initial coup against Bluestar other than his word. After that he stayed close friends with Darkstripe whilst the latter conspired with Tigerstar, and again only separated himself when Darkstripe was on trial for poisoning Sorrelkit. It's not unreasonable to suspect he was more involved than he let on. Longtail also used to be extremely xenophobic to Cloudtail and kept commenting on how he should/would die. I love Longtail but he was a serious asshole in the first few books.
She's not only a direct victim of Tigerstar, but he caused the death of Swiftpaw and Whitestorm, and caused Cinderpelt (her sister) to be crippled.
And pretty much every cat in the Clans at this point has voiced some level of fear that Bramblestar would turn out like his father, most so Firestar himself. So she's not unique or any more prejudiced than anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 10:39:33 GMT -5
I think Brightheart's fear makes sense to be fair. Longtail was attached to the hip to Darkstripe and Tigerstar, and there was never any proof that he wasn't a part of the initial coup against Bluestar other than his word. After that he stayed close friends with Darkstripe whilst the latter conspired with Tigerstar, and again only separated himself when Darkstripe was on trial for poisoning Sorrelkit. It's not unreasonable to suspect he was more involved than he let on. Longtail also used to be extremely xenophobic to Cloudtail and kept commenting on how he should/would die. I love Longtail but he was a serious asshole in the first few books. She's not only a direct victim of Tigerstar, but he caused the death of Swiftpaw and Whitestorm, and caused Cinderpelt (her sister) to be crippled. And pretty much every cat in the Clans at this point has voiced some level of fear that Bramblestar would turn out like his father, most so Firestar himself. So she's not unique or any more prejudiced than anyone else. It makes sense, like I said her feelings are definitely valid considering how she was impacted. I just wish we weren't getting another distrust story when we just got Feathertail's from her own manga. Brightheart's trauma is valid and makes sense for what she, and the rest of the clan, went through, but it just feels to me that when we got a plot similar to this only three mangas ago it feels a bit repetitive. I hope my post doesn't sound confrontational btw. I know I was one of the people saying I don't care for the plot so I just wanted to explain. |
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Post by Quill on Apr 24, 2023 10:42:59 GMT -5
Does anyone else find the frequent bolding of words to be rather annoying? I noticed this in Winds of Change, too. If it's supposed to denote emphasis, it's way overdone.
I agree that the plot seems to be a bit repetitive of the plot of A Shadow in RiverClan. And I'm annoyed that they keep retconning Ashfur to be ~obviously~ sketchy pre-POS.
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 24, 2023 13:02:43 GMT -5
Does anyone else find the frequent bolding of words to be rather annoying? I noticed this in Winds of Change, too. If it's supposed to denote emphasis, it's way overdone. I agree that the plot seems to be a bit repetitive of the plot of A Shadow in RiverClan. And I'm annoyed that they keep retconning Ashfur to be ~obviously~ sketchy pre-POS. Is he sketchy here? All he's doing is brawling Thornclaw over a squirrel. Which makes him look petty, yes, but no more than Thornclaw is for engaging him in the exact same thing. Both of them are being equally aggressive about it. |
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. At least she gets to help Cloudtail out with Rainpaw.
