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Post by Brownie on Mar 22, 2023 16:01:00 GMT -5
Also I feel that about making more work for yourself. I recently decided that every piece of song or poetry within my story, I will first write completely in the conlang, and then "translate" it as closely as possible into English whilst keeping the rhyme schemes. Why? Self-loathing, apparently. I did that for a project once ;-; Both to better understand my grammar and also just because I thought it would be cool. I don't regret doing it. But it was a right pain and took a solid week for like a 5 stanza poem E- Wow I actually found it I didn't think I even had it anymore. The poem (in english) isn't mine to share but I do have a little one I made as a warm up or smth. P sure I did the conlang first and then direct translated after for this one? Also it's not quite correct anymore because I made a lot of changes to articles in general since then (my first pass was just 1-1 english; to be fair, I was doing that in early high school at the time and I didn't realize there were other ways to DO prepositions or DOPs)
Forever Path
A new path everyday
But always the same
I walk for the future
Seeking of the past
No thought of now
Only forever
Sairm Vanal
Vramal o’sairmul
A’tuvtam mai
Sairtae a’lukii-no
Livae a’vukii-am
Doiiaej a’tu-am
Vanal te
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 22, 2023 16:05:37 GMT -5
Okay... this is probably going to sound stupid... but what is conlang? o.o I've heard the word, but I'm pretty sure I've never done anything with it, unless we did it in school and I just completely forgot about it XD
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Post by Brownie on Mar 22, 2023 16:14:45 GMT -5
Okay... this is probably going to sound stupid... but what is conlang? o.o I've heard the word, but I'm pretty sure I've never done anything with it, unless we did it in school and I just completely forgot about it XD "Constructed Language" aka a fake language that is created intentionally and not naturally by speakers The most famous examples are Klingon (Star Trek) or Esperanto (for use in international negotiations). Some are complete and can be used fluently for communication, others are more limited (like High Valyrian from Game of Thrones, which has a lot of grammatical depth but doesn't have dictonary-deep vocabulary). Tolkien was a nerd for linguistics and basically used lord of the rings to showcase his conlangs and worldbuild haha E- also if yall haven't looked at Ithkuil you should ( link) it's a theoretical language with some interesting goals. Isn't meant to be spoken, just theoretical, but the ideas are super cool
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 22, 2023 16:23:15 GMT -5
Oh, thanks! That makes sense!
I'm guilty of still needing to read Lord of the Rings. It's been on my shelf forever. But because they're so long and daunting, I think I always go to other books first XD
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Post by Brownie on Mar 22, 2023 16:45:01 GMT -5
I've never read any Tolkien either and I own everything :shrug:
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 22, 2023 17:10:15 GMT -5
Funny, I've actually been consuming anything Tolkien related lately since Tolkien Reading Day (aka the defeat of Sauron) is on Saturday lol! He and Jane Austen are my main inspirations for writing, and with Tolkien in particular, why I wanted to try a conlang. However, I don't know a thing about language building, so I'm just sticking to my strengths, which is worldbuilding.
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 22, 2023 17:15:11 GMT -5
Same, Brownie XD Mothflight; I would say that Cassandra Clare and Rick Riordan are two of the authors I aspire to be like!
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Post by Brownie on Mar 22, 2023 18:29:31 GMT -5
I think he reminds me too much of my own style when I try and do spec fic, and that annoys me a LOT lmao then again, the last time I tried to get thru the first LotR book was maybe eight or nine years ago now, so perhaps it's time for another try.
hmmmm I think back when I started writing, I wanted to be like Paoloni cuz I LOVED inheritance but now I respect Le Guin a lot for her style and when I'm in a rut, I can read a few of her shorts and it really helps my sentence structure and the way I think about prose. I'm also rereading Stormlight so I'm trying to really figure out why Sanderson's characters are so engaging in the first book and how he balances the infodump vs active prose and how limiting details might be more descriptive than keeping them
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 22, 2023 20:05:20 GMT -5
brownie; I’m not sure I ever read those either
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Post by Brownie on Mar 23, 2023 0:03:21 GMT -5
brownie; I’m not sure I ever read those either :o not even Eragon????? =O Stormlight Archives is so long but so worth it btw
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 23, 2023 1:35:59 GMT -5
Anyone else creating an original language? 👀 I've done that!!! I started on it back when I was like, 14? It's grown a lot since then
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 23, 2023 1:37:50 GMT -5
I’m an author who’s trying to get published. I’m writing a fictional series right now, and work in two many fan fics and AUs at a time to count. I dream to be a bestselling author one day, and I participate on the OTW thread That's awesome! What's your fictional series about?
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 23, 2023 7:02:51 GMT -5
brownie; I’m not sure I ever read those either not even Eragon????? =O Stormlight Archives is so long but so worth it btw Sadly not ): I remember wanting to read about it (and I’d still like to), but I just never got around to it and now I just keep forgetting. Next time I go to the library I’ll see if I can check it out!
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Mar 23, 2023 14:39:18 GMT -5
I’m an author who’s trying to get published. I’m writing a fictional series right now, and work in two many fan fics and AUs at a time to count. I dream to be a bestselling author one day, and I participate on the OTW thread That's awesome! What's your fictional series about? There’s five (well, technically six considering book five’s plot, but it’s kinda like saying warriors has four clans instead of five bc SkyClan came in later situation) gems that several stray dogs must guard. These gems control the earth and keep it running, and if they fall in the wrongs hands the planet is doomed. A recently abandoned housedog (pet dog), Moon, turns out to be the only dog that can save the Guard Dogs from the chaos their ancestors left for them to fix. The Guard Dogs have powers, but it is forbidden to use them against an enemy. However since the last Guard Dogs have cursed a dog with evil intentions to be immortal, the only way to kill them is using the powers. But if a dog uses their powers in this way, they will be killed, not the opponent. However, Moon is special. She can kill this dog with her powers before things get even more violent, but she doesn’t know it. She doesn’t know that she is the prophesied Guard Dog that no living being knows of. I would explain the plot further, but if I did this would be way to long. In summary, the whole prophecy is kinda similar to Firestar’s situation, but this is a whole different story. Sorry for any typos!
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 24, 2023 12:28:47 GMT -5
𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 Would you recommend indie publishing as the way to go?
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 24, 2023 17:27:37 GMT -5
That's awesome! What's your fictional series about? There’s five (well, technically six considering book five’s plot, but it’s kinda like saying warriors has four clans instead of five bc SkyClan came in later situation) gems that several stray dogs must guard. These gems control the earth and keep it running, and if they fall in the wrongs hands the planet is doomed. A recently abandoned housedog (pet dog), Moon, turns out to be the only dog that can save the Guard Dogs from the chaos their ancestors left for them to fix. The Guard Dogs have powers, but it is forbidden to use them against an enemy. However since the last Guard Dogs have cursed a dog with evil intentions to be immortal, the only way to kill them is using the powers. But if a dog uses their powers in this way, they will be killed, not the opponent. However, Moon is special. She can kill this dog with her powers before things get even more violent, but she doesn’t know it. She doesn’t know that she is the prophesied Guard Dog that no living being knows of. I would explain the plot further, but if I did this would be way to long. In summary, the whole prophecy is kinda similar to Firestar’s situation, but this is a whole different story. Sorry for any typos! Dude that sounds awesome!! I really like the concept, also I think it’s cool that it’s focused on dogs
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 24, 2023 17:28:40 GMT -5
𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 Would you recommend indie publishing as the way to go? Personally, I have enjoyed indie publishing You do have to do a lot more work, and it’s a full time, never ending job, but I find it very fulfilling and I enjoy knowing I have full ownership of my story, characters, and ideas!
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 24, 2023 17:44:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the input! I'm not close to publishing yet, but I go back and forth between indie and traditional publishing. I still haven't decided, but I also have plenty of time to decide and continue to do my research.
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Post by Brownie on Mar 25, 2023 0:57:18 GMT -5
how does one outline ;-;
Like I don't want to have NO plan. but I also have no plan.
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 25, 2023 1:55:58 GMT -5
how does one outline ;-; Like I don't want to have NO plan. but I also have no plan. obviously the solution is to start by making an outline for the outline In all seriousness, I think it depends on the kind of writer you are. George R.R. Martin says that writers are either architects or gardners. The former is the person who meticiously details everything, and the latter is someone who just has an idea of how things will go and lets the plot/characters flow naturally. Not that you need to follow this of course, but it helps to know how you write. I'm still trying to figure out how to outline myself. It's a genuine pain making a plan, or even planning in general, just stumps me.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 25, 2023 11:32:15 GMT -5
I find indie to be more preferable, if only because I've heard just how picky agents tend to be as well as how restricting the industry is. Indie has its cons too, but it certainly seems to be more freeing by comparison. And as for outlining, it's easy for me to come up with ideas and organize them, but hard for me to actually follow through. ^^"
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 25, 2023 12:33:28 GMT -5
Yeah… I’m still debating which way I’d like to publish
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 25, 2023 12:34:44 GMT -5
I’m definitely a gardener by that definition xD
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Post by Captain Americat on Mar 25, 2023 15:14:24 GMT -5
Although unrealistic at the moment, I'd like writing to be my full-time job XD
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Post by Brownie on Mar 25, 2023 16:20:52 GMT -5
how does one outline ;-; Like I don't want to have NO plan. but I also have no plan. obviously the solution is to start by making an outline for the outline In all seriousness, I think it depends on the kind of writer you are. George R.R. Martin says that writers are either architects or gardners. The former is the person who meticiously details everything, and the latter is someone who just has an idea of how things will go and lets the plot/characters flow naturally. Not that you need to follow this of course, but it helps to know how you write. I'm still trying to figure out how to outline myself. It's a genuine pain making a plan, or even planning in general, just stumps me. maybe controversial opinion but I don't think anyone is better without an outline. There's merit to doodling around with characters to see where they go, but I think that should be early in the process and not to be heavily relied upon to fill in gaps. I think it's okay to leave some middle parts blank if there's many viable paths to the goal, and the "outline" there should simply be what character struggles should be present during those times to make for a good pacing (ie. MC should be forced to come to terms with their flaw of hesitating in moments of danger; it doesn't matter HOW this happens, just that some conflict must come up that ensures that this moment DOES happen somehow).
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Post by Brownie on Mar 25, 2023 16:21:17 GMT -5
Although unrealistic at the moment, I'd like writing to be my full-time job XD MOOD. I think I could do it, but I struggle with self motivation ;-;
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Mar 25, 2023 17:06:28 GMT -5
Although unrealistic at the moment, I'd like writing to be my full-time job XD Same, but for my first book I doubt that will ever happen. But eventually, life will come together and it hopefully will be.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 25, 2023 20:16:03 GMT -5
how does one outline ;-; Like I don't want to have NO plan. but I also have no plan. do you want actual suggestions or just venting? just checking
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