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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 11:01:07 GMT -5
I know Nightheart is very unlikeable to the majority of the Warriors fandom right now. And those feelings and criticisms are valid, of course. But that being said, I just cannot bring myself to dislike him even though I disagree with how he treats most of the cats he interacts with at the time. He just reminds me of myself as a teenager when I pushed everyone away and lashed out at them even including those who actively wanted to help/support/encourage me. I have a feeling that Nightheart will grow out of this behaviour just like I did and he will realize his true worth and potential eventually throughout the process of this arc. Also: I'm still one of those people as well.
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Post by ᴋᴀᴛɴɪꜱꜱ on Oct 18, 2022 11:06:42 GMT -5
I know Nightheart is very unlikeable to the majority of the Warriors fandom right now. And those feelings and criticisms are valid, of course. But that being said, I just cannot bring myself to dislike him even though I disagree with how he treats most of the cats he interacts with at the time. He just reminds me of myself as a teenager when I pushed everyone away even including those who actively wanted to help/support/encourage me. I have a feeling that Nightheart will grow out of this behaviour just like I did and he will realize his true worth and potential eventually throughout the process of this arc. Also: I'm still one of those people as well. This is also me I will say though I don’t like Sparkpelt for how she acted at the very beginning of this book just because Nightheart changed his name. It just feels icky when you connect it to the real life equivalent of deadnaming. But I liked her in River.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 11:26:14 GMT -5
I know Nightheart is very unlikeable to the majority of the Warriors fandom right now. And those feelings and criticisms are valid, of course. But that being said, I just cannot bring myself to dislike him even though I disagree with how he treats most of the cats he interacts with at the time. He just reminds me of myself as a teenager when I pushed everyone away even including those who actively wanted to help/support/encourage me. I have a feeling that Nightheart will grow out of this behaviour just like I did and he will realize his true worth and potential eventually throughout the process of this arc. Also: I'm still one of those people as well. This is also me I will say though I don’t like Sparkpelt for how she acted at the very beginning of this book just because Nightheart changed his name. It just feels icky when you connect it to the real life equivalent of deadnaming. But I liked her in River. I'm glad to see someone else who can relate to Nightheart on that level. Oh yeah, I absolutely agree that Sparkpelt's behaviour felt unnecessarily harsh in the Sky excerpt/Nightheart's first chapter. Especially compared to how she seemed still upset but not fully angry or even malicious/mean about the same subject at the end of River. This change of behaviour might have had to do with both of these books having seperate authors who characterize some characters differently. Cherith wrote River while Kate did Sky and they might have seperate takes on how Sparkpelt behaves in regards to Nightheart. Because in River, she was still trying to reconnect with him and be there in a way. While the Sky excerpt makes it seem as if she has now completely stopped trying to reach out and mend things between them just because he wanted a name change. There is just something off about that, in my opinion. Also, this line from Finchlight in regards to Nightheart giving Sparkpelt indigestion, felt so out of place and left field to me. Like what the actual heck happened that she also changed her mind from standing up for her brother at the end of River to insulting him at the beginning of the next book Sky which only takes place a few days later, if I'm recalling it correctly:
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 11:35:47 GMT -5
rest of chapter 13: Mothwing tells Tigerstar to mind his business and they don't need help. Tigerstar thinks they do, and Sunbeam hears darkness edge his mew as he insists. Tigerstar says that since they share history and borders, he thinks ShadowClan should start governing RiverClan. This is met with many objections from others who claim he can't be leader of two Clans. Tigerstar ignores them, and tells Mothwing the need a leader. Tawnypelt shoves her way to the front of the crowd and asks if he's forgotten his grandfather, who pulled the same stunt years ago, and she tells him that no leader should lead more than one Clan. Sunbeam is confused, but Nightheart briefly explains the actions of Tigerstar I.
Mothwing shares Tawnypelt's sentiments, and she says that RiverClan has already suffered under a Tigerstar and they won't be doing it again. As she says this, Sunbeam sees Tigerstar look hurt, and then snarls that he's not the first Tigerstar and he's already given sanctuary to cats wrongfully exiled from their Clans. He says he's not wanting to take over, but genuinely just help since RiverClan is in shambles. Brackenpelt hisses that Tigerstar seems to be forgetting about what happened with Darktail, her eyes filled with fear. Tigerstar says he's no rogue. Brackenpelt says it certainly seems like he's trying something similar since Darktail took over ShadowClan and then RiverClan. Tawnypelt objects and says to let RiverClan govern themselves, which is supported by Crowfeather, Duskfur, Mallownose, and Mothwing. Tigerstar flattens his ears in annoyance.
Leafstar steps forward, calls for quiet, and says that Tigerstar made his proposal, and while she's sure he has the best intentions, she offers Fidgetflake to go help in RiverClan, and with a look at Mothwing, she says that she respects Mothwing but her lack of connection to StarClan is part of the problem. Mothwing says they have Frostpaw. Leafstar says she's an apprenctice. Leafstar adds that Fidgetflake will only help with the nine lives, nothing more. Mothwing begrudgingly accepts the offer, but to Tigerstar's annoyance. Tigerstar says they'll worry about the catmint issue after the succession crisis is resolved, but Leafstar and Harestar too tired to argue and move on, but offer their condolences for Tigerstar of Rowankit's death. He doesn't agree. Leafstar sighs and says they'll need to figure it out at the next full moon and tells everyone to go home, and the gathering breaks up.
Sunbeam says she hopes Fidgetflake can figure out things RiverClan. Nightheart agrees, as he's resourceful and kind. Lionblaze hollers for Nightheart to come back to ThunderClan. Sunbeam and him say their goodbyes and split off.
Sunbeam catches up to Tigerstar, Dovewing, and Berryheart. Tigerstar is grumbling that Fidgetflake won't solve anything. Dovewing says he might, as he's far more experienced than Frostpaw. Tigerstar snorts and says Leafstar's just helping RiverClan play for time. Berryheart asks why he cares. Tigerstar, surprised, says that there's a weak Clan at their border, and it's best to deal with it before it gets worse. Berryheart argues that RiverClan shares a border with WindClan too, but Harestar's not stepping up to help. Dovewing says it's best to worry about these things tomorrow, as they're all exhausted. Berryheart and Tigerstar glare, but then break apart.
Sunbeam watches them, and wonders why Berryheart seems so set on confronting Tigerstar. Sunbeam thinks Tigerstar has noble intentions, but can't help but feel if Rowankit's death is clouding his judgement. But she knows that Berryheart will make Sunbeam choose sides some day, and it will be ugly.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 11:38:59 GMT -5
Oooh, Tawnypelt is serving the TEA today, I see! And it's absolutely scalding! Also, the fact that Sunbeam didn't know who Tawnypelt was talking about just adds to my theory that ShadowClan either doesn't like talking about its horrible past at all or they glorify it, which contributed to the apprentice rebellion.
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Post by tybaxel on Oct 18, 2022 11:46:41 GMT -5
tawnypelt did NOT hold back...she's really the backbone of shadowclan for real. i can't believe tiger even suggested that bro i hope fidgetflake can help riverclan out! and i'm so for the rising tension between berryheart and tigerstar, even though i don't really like either of them
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 11:49:12 GMT -5
Even Nightheart doesn't understand why Bramblestar and Squirrelflight keep arguing lmao Nightheart had been on edge since he'd told Bramblestar that Squirrelflight had taken a patrol to WindClan to talk to Harestar about the stolen vole. He'd expected the ThunderClan leader and deputy to argue fiercely about it, but they hadn't. Not in front of the Clan anyway. He could sense the tension between them; they rarely shared tongues or prey, and when they did speak, there was a bitter edge to their mews. It seemed sad after Squirrelflight had fought so hard to save Bramblestar when Ashfur stole his body. Couldn't they happy just to be together after being separated for so long? Guilt still worried his pelt. It was kind of his fault they were angry with each other. But he hadn't meant to betray Squirrelflight, and he half wished she and Bramblestar would argue, just to clear the air.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 11:53:04 GMT -5
Tigerstar is really out here trying to be his evil grandfather and namesake without even realizing it. Somebody overthrow this fool already, for heaven's sake. Hurry up, Berryheart. Although my take on Tigerstar provoking a conflict due to his grief over Rowankit's death was correct. So, yay? Tawnypelt better scold her son further when they get home.
Good luck in RiverClan, Fidgetflake!
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 11:56:09 GMT -5
Even Nightheart doesn't understand why Bramblestar and Squirrelflight keep arguing lmao Nightheart had been on edge since he'd told Bramblestar that Squirrelflight had taken a patrol to WindClan to talk to Harestar about the stolen vole. He'd expected the ThunderClan leader and deputy to argue fiercely about it, but they hadn't. Not in front of the Clan anyway. He could sense the tension between them; they rarely shared tongues or prey, and when they did speak, there was a bitter edge to their mews. It seemed sad after Squirrelflight had fought so hard to save Bramblestar when Ashfur stole his body. Couldn't they happy just to be together after being separated for so long? Guilt still worried his pelt. It was kind of his fault they were angry with each other. But he hadn't meant to betray Squirrelflight, and he half wished she and Bramblestar would argue, just to clear the air. Here we go again.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 11:58:18 GMT -5
I'm actually kind of amazed they remembered the vole thing at all. Frankly, both sides have a point, but I just wish they'd stop arguing in general!
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Post by fuzzyclaws0w0 on Oct 18, 2022 11:58:24 GMT -5
Minnowtail should be riverclans leader ngl
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 18, 2022 11:59:02 GMT -5
Tawnypelt and Leafstar are helping knock sense into everyone today, I love them. Props to Tawnypelt for telling off her son and Leafstar helping think of sort of a compromise. This is really heating up, I'm really excited to see how the RiverClan succession crisis plays out.
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Post by carbonfoot on Oct 18, 2022 12:01:39 GMT -5
I hope Bramblestar dies and Squirrelflight can finally move on from him and just have a Better Life. Not even moving on in a "find a new guy" kind of way more like moving on in a "doesn't have to be part of the cycle of abuse anymore and just gets to be happy" kind of way. Please Erins you can stop being mean to her now I promise please just stop-
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 12:02:47 GMT -5
Chapter 14: Nightheart (this one is also pretty long so it's point form) - Nightheart is still doing apprentice duties. He thinks that the elders could maybe catch dead prey or ancient squirrels. Brightheart has nearly recovered from her greencough. He tries to work out how much longer he'll be doing apprentice duties as he wants Spotfur's kits to become apprentices. As he's finishing up, he decides to put in half the effort to fixing the nests as he assumes they won't ask him to do it again if it's terrible.
- Leafstar arrives in ThunderClan to speak with Squirrelflight and Bramblestar. Squirrelflight is friendly, while Bramblestar avoids her eyes and keeps shifting uneasily (Nightheart makes a comment that Bramblestar will forget how to hunt soon as well). Leafstar wants to talk about Tigerstar's plans with RiverClan, and she feels he's up to something. Squirrelflight agrees, but Bramblestar mews that Tigerstar has good intentions.
- Squirrelflight belittles Bramblestar a lot during the conversation for thinking positively of Tigerstar. Leafstar says ambition is in Tigerstar's blood. Bramblestar gets annoyed and says he and Tigerstar are kin. Leafstar says she means no ill will to Bramblestar at all, but she's still worried about Tigerstar's plans. She's worried that Fidgetflake may not be able to help Owlnose. Bramblestar says Tigerstar might be able to help, which Leafstar disagrees with. He points out he shut up about the topic after Leafstar asserted herself, but Leafstar grumbles she knows full well Tigerstar doesn't "shut up" about things. Bramblestar says he wants to see how it plays out before getting involved.
- Leafstar says she disagrees, but she's also not here to order Bramblestar around, and says she would like to just keep these things between the three of them, and leaves, but also says she feels Squirrelflight and Bramblestar are being naive. When Leafstar leaves, Squirrelflight starts yelling at Bramblestar for what he said and underestimating Tigerstar.
- As soon as Squirrelflight raises her voice, Bramblestar locks his eyes with hers and growls that he's the leader, and it's his call. Squirrelflight seems to contemplate actually hitting Bramblestar before walking off. Bramblestar then stops being angry and just looks defeated. Nightheart tries to creep away from eavesdropping, but Bramblestar catches him. Bramblestar doesn't seem to care (or doesn't know) that Nightheart was hearing the conversation, and invites him for a walk.
- Bramblestar asks Nightheart what he felt about the gathering last night. Nightheart says it felt odd. Bramblestar says he doesn't want to get involved in other Clans affairs. Nightheart points out it's happened before, like with BloodClan or the Kin, and reminds Bramblestar he took in several refugees from ShadowClan. Nightheart says he thinks they should help RiverClan because they can't be sure of what Tigerstar is planning. Bramblestar asks how he's sure of that. Nightheart suggests sending a spy to ShadowClan, and explains it's just to figure out what's going on in RiverClan and ShadowClan. Bramblestar leans closer to Nightheart and says that Nightheart knows a ShadowClan warrior quite well, and he's well aware that Nightheart and Sunbeam are close, having seen them together at the gathering.
- Bramblestar asks Nightheart to be the spy, but warns that he'd need to be careful and take a friend. Nightheart asks for Bayshine, and Bramblestar agrees. Nightheart sees that Bramblestar has no doubts over him, but then he whispers to Nightheart that no cat must know he's there, not even Squirrelflight.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 18, 2022 12:07:05 GMT -5
W o a h dang. This can either end terribly or wonderfully. It would be so funny seeing Tigerstar's reaction if Nightheart was ever found out.
Sheesh Bramblestar and Squirrelflight 💀 I feel like TBC might have destroyed their relationship.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 12:07:33 GMT -5
*ignoring the BrambleSquirrel mess to keep my sanity*
Wait, wasn't there a mention of Nightheart possibly spying in that article about him which came out a while ago? Or at least didn't someone suggest he would be a spy on there? I can't remember the details right now.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 12:07:55 GMT -5
Oh, this must be what the sneaking around thing was referring to!
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 18, 2022 12:08:00 GMT -5
I feel like, and no offense here, maybe spoilers shouldn't be dropped out of order because it seems to cause more confusion. I also don't see how suddenly Sun x Night is on the table, and I'm not even that opposed to the idea either. And the paraphrasing makes it a bit harder to understand the nuance of the situations. So I'm guessing people will have try and form their own opinions once they receive their orders too. This will definitely be a book I'll have to find time to read as well, because for me, some of this is quite jarring, and I don't know if it's the because of the writing or not. As for Nightheart, I do think him lashing out at Brightheart was rude, but her bringing up Firekin didn't help, not saying she deserved it, but it wasn't like he went out of his way on purpose. Or said what he said out of malicious intent. He's being defensive because of how he was treated, and in a way it is a response to past trauma, which is what we now have a confirmation for in this book. Jayfeather is well rude to everyone, but when Alderheart speaks to him, that's when Nightheart starts to realize some sort of guilt, because Alderheart is one of the few cats that are his kin and genuinely care about him for being him. Same with Bramblestar, but it's unfortunate that his mind is going, and he's suffering as well, and Nightheart is unconsciously afraid of him too from PTSD.
Nightheart has barely been a warrior, and has already gone through a lot. His clan fell apart in the previous arc, his mother and sister left him in ThunderClan and now they're isolating him because of his name change. Brashfur tortured him out of spite, and the clan constantly judged him for not living up to his bloodline. I don't think when other cats come to him they're wishing to be firekin relatives too, it's them believing they have something to prove BECAUSE they're firekin. And Sparkpelt being the spitting image of Firestar himself, doesn't help. Now he's going against traditions because of his name change, not one thinks "Nightheart" is his real name either. And he feels the needs to prove himself as Nightheart, but ends up getting reckless.
He's not being malicious or villainous. He's just being defensive and lashing out as a response to trauma. People can dislike him, that's fine, but his behavior isn't for no reason or coming out of no where. And since it's only the first book, he still has more time before he's properly development. It's only in this book does he even start to realize that some cats actually care for him, but others are still too critical on him, and even making him the butt of jokes. Good points. But if he doesn't improve over the course of the next few books... Oh no I agree, I tend to have less tolerance for character that don't show improvement over time. Or ones that have improved but then regress. As a character gets older, and having better opportunities and chances in the plot, they should mature and know better, imo. I think Nightheart will improve, but as of right now, I think his actions and feelings are understandable and people are being too quick to judge him.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 12:08:50 GMT -5
*ignoring the BrambleSquirrel mess to keep my sanity*
Wait, wasn't there a mention of Nightheart possibly spying in that article about him which came out a while ago? Or at least didn't someone suggest he would be a spy on there? I can't remember the details right now. Yeah, there was! I actually mentioned it just now, too!
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 12:09:37 GMT -5
But really though, why does the relationship drama between BrambleSquirrel always get worse when it's a Kate Cary book smh.
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Post by brightheartt on Oct 18, 2022 12:12:24 GMT -5
But really though, why does the relationship drama between BrambleSquirrel always get worse when it's a Kate Cary book smh. If this ends with Bramblestar doing something that finally makes Squirrelflight realise she is in a bad relationship and break up with him I’ll be so happy. Edit: I wrote this quickly and worded it extremely poorly and I apologise, please see my later explanation
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 12:16:49 GMT -5
But really though, why does the relationship drama between BrambleSquirrel always get worse when it's a Kate Cary book smh. If this ends with Bramblestar doing something that finally makes Squirrelflight realise she is in a bad relationship and break up with him I’ll be so happy. I don't think that will happen even though a lot of fans want it to. But considering that she fought for him in TBC and they also reconciled in her SE, there is no way the writing team will let them break up or kill off Bramblestar now.
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Post by Specklecloud on Oct 18, 2022 12:18:01 GMT -5
Oh man it's kind of looking like Bramblestar might have dementia on top of PTSD. It might be the result of his age, but I'm not surprised considering all the times Ashfur abandoned his body and left it pretty much dead to go do other things.
I'm no Bramble fan, but I'm kind of sorry for him.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 18, 2022 12:21:20 GMT -5
Rest of Chapter 13: This is one of the few times I agree with Tawnypelt to be honest. I'm glad she called Tigertwo out for his behavior again, and honestly considering his what we've seen o far, I don't think Tigertwo has the best of intentions. Even if he doesn't mean it, I feel like he'll take his anger and grief out on RiverClan after losing Rowankit. Imo that is far more dangerous than some young adult having conflicting feelings. Tigertwo is a seasoned warrior in a position of power, I don't trust him at all.
Thankfully some cats disagree with his idea. Also, can I say, I love Leafstar, man.
Also, it seems Berryheart is set on going against Tigertwo, and genuinely I don't know how I feel about that. I don't like either of them right now.
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Oct 18, 2022 12:23:43 GMT -5
More Squirrelflight and Bramblestar drama💀
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 18, 2022 12:24:21 GMT -5
But really though, why does the relationship drama between BrambleSquirrel always get worse when it's a Kate Cary book smh. If this ends with Bramblestar doing something that finally makes Squirrelflight realise she is in a bad relationship and break up with him I’ll be so happy. Why would that even be plausible? He's got PTSD and dementia? He's old. I don't think it's SquirrelBramble drama, it's just Bramblestar genuinely being unstable at this point mentally, and because they're cats he can't exactly just get medical treatment. Imo its a bit uncomfortable to word things that way, it implies that it took his mental health declining for him to "prove" his relationship with Squirrel was "bad" and she should leave him for that reason.
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 18, 2022 12:25:56 GMT -5
Bramblestar is either going to retire or be dead by the end of this series.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 18, 2022 12:30:58 GMT -5
Since it seems this needs to be said apparently: PTSD: Post-traumatic stress disorder is a mental health condition that's triggered by a terrifying event — either experiencing it or witnessing it. Symptoms may include flashbacks, nightmares, and severe anxiety, as well as uncontrollable thoughts about the event. Dementia: A chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning. Please be mindful.
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Post by brightheartt on Oct 18, 2022 12:36:20 GMT -5
If this ends with Bramblestar doing something that finally makes Squirrelflight realise she is in a bad relationship and break up with him I’ll be so happy. Why would that even be plausible? He's got PTSD and dementia? He's old. I don't think it's SquirrelBramble drama, it's just Bramblestar genuinely being unstable at this point mentally, and because they're cats he can't exactly just get medical treatment. Imo its a bit uncomfortable to word things that way, it implies that it took his mental health declining for him to "prove" his relationship with Squirrel was "bad" and she should leave him for that reason. Yeah the way I worded it wasn’t great sorry. I just really hope that how he’s treated her in the past is actually realised by her and addressed in text. Whatever happens I don’t think she’ll abandon him even if she no longer wants to be his mate. And I don’t want her to break up with him over his mental health issues I just want her to realise how badly she’s been treated in the past. Maybe it could just be during one of their arguments she just has a moment of “we always argue how is this healthy for either of us” before the extent of his issues become apparent. The continued romanticisation of their relationship just frustrates me.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 12:36:33 GMT -5
If this ends with Bramblestar doing something that finally makes Squirrelflight realise she is in a bad relationship and break up with him I’ll be so happy. Why would that even be plausible? He's got PTSD and dementia? He's old. I don't think it's SquirrelBramble drama, it's just Bramblestar genuinely being unstable at this point mentally, and because they're cats he can't exactly just get medical treatment. Imo its a bit uncomfortable to word things that way, it implies that it took his mental health declining for him to "prove" his relationship with Squirrel was "bad" and she should leave him for that reason. I mean, Squirrelflight most likely has PTSD as well considering that she was the object of Ashfur's obsession while her mate Bramblestar caught the brunt of his ire. And it does kind of still feel like their old relationship drama because they are arguing once again which is something almost everyone in the fandom is tired of at this point. But I'm in agreement with you that things have a different dynamic now since Bramblestar is no longer capable of getting held fully accountable for anything he may do or say now considering his mental health conditions regarding PTSD and possible dementia.
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