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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Sept 20, 2022 10:00:53 GMT -5
warriorcats.com/content/article/exclusive-sky-excerptI'm literally so excited to read this now and then for the actual book in November! The prologue being from Mistystar's PoV was a welcoming surprise. Good to see both her and her son Reedwhisker are safe in StarClan together even though the mention of impending danger of course suggests even more trouble for RiverClan.
The first chapter featuring Sunbeam getting piled on with attention by her Clanmates, most prominently Gullswoop, is hilarious and sad for her at the same time. ShadowClan being "hungry for gossip" gives me life. But Gullswoop mentioning Blazefire's lack of Clan blood and suggesting for Sunbeam to find herself a "perfectly good ShadowClan tom" reminds me of the impending split the Clan will most likely experience as well (just like RiverClan will with their leadership problem). Poor Rowankit, I hope he (Wasn't he a she in the last book though?) recovers soon. As for Sunbeam's "fragile" friendship with Lightleap? I can't say the same.
Nightheart is still angsty. Not surprising. And he got himself hurt so early on in the book too (just like Sunbeam did during River although it wasn't her own fault there). Sparkpelt and Finchlight are still angry at him for openly rejecting Firestar's legacy (But didn't his sister initially defend him in that scene at the end of River instead?) Myrtlebloom calling Nightheart spoiled was certainly a memorable line. Good for her. I get both sides of the story.
Poor Frostpaw is still in shock and grieving. I really like her friendship and conversation with Splashtail here, he seems to be a good friend (for now). Frostpaw has so much responsibility for such a young cat. Her going to the Moonpool to speak with StarClan AGAIN to ask about a new leader for RiverClan AGAIN will most certainly end in disaster...AGAIN.
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𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Sept 20, 2022 10:01:48 GMT -5
Yessss!!!! I’m so glad it came out while I wasn’t in class! Please don’t let Rowankit die Also I have a feeling that Brightheart’s going to die in this book…
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 20, 2022 11:22:24 GMT -5
And what do you know, I'm still annoyed with Nightheart! Seriously, if this continues, I'm afraid I'm actually going to have to skip this arc, which would be a first for me. Not even Twigbranch was this annoying to me as Nightheart is being right now.
No. No they didn't. It fact, neither of them bring up Firestar even once for the entirety of the book!
You were judging your Clan for arrogance in the last book. Pot, meet kettle.
Despite the fact that Finchlight supported him in the last book. Although, if she's had to be in the middle before, then yeah, I can understand her frustration.
Not only were you not even mentioned as having been in the scene, but there's no reason you couldn't have gone with Sparkpelt like your sister had! And, y'know, it was exile!
Ouch, Finchlight!
IT WAS FOR A FEW DAYS, YOU BRAT! AND YOU WERE A NEWBORN! WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE SPARKPELT HAD NEGLECTED YOU FOR YOUR ENTIRE KITHOOD!?
Oof, bad wording there, Myrtlebloom! I also don't necessarily agree with what she's saying, but at the same time, I just appreciate someone is calling out Nightheart at all.
And yeah, everyone should be judged based on their own merit, but the way Nightheart is going about it is seriously grating and I'm still hoping it's intentional (wouldn't make it any less annoying, though)! However, this is a step up from the previous book since we're actually seeing cats judging him and not just being told about it.
Oh, yeah. Hope Rowankit is okay and I'm still more excited about the RiverClan stuff more than anything.
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Post by NightFrostSun on Sept 20, 2022 11:22:45 GMT -5
Wow, things are definitely looking dangerous. Poor Nightheart I think it is official he is definitely switching clans and getting away from his toxic relationship with his kin and clanmates. He will be much happier in any of the other four clans. I think it's safe to say Brightheart will be joining StarClan soon and Mothwing will probably die as well. I don't see Mothwing joining StarClan though as she doesn't really agree with their actions (rightly so). I see her joining Juniperclaw as a border guardian. She would be happy there and Juniperclaw will have his great aunt to keep him company. As for Rowankit I hope he recovers.
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🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
its april which means its time to bow down to the 'tism
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Sept 20, 2022 11:44:06 GMT -5
Will be posting my thoughts as I read. First up is MYRTLEPBLOOM
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Post by Hollyfall on Sept 20, 2022 11:57:48 GMT -5
Honest to god the RiverClan plotline is more interesting than any of the characters lmao
Nightheart is whiny, Sunbeam's story revolves around her romantic life, and Frostpaw is just a camera
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its april which means its time to bow down to the 'tism
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
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Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Sept 20, 2022 11:59:02 GMT -5
Ah yes, a good old greencough outbreak. It really seems as though this arc is going back to the natural world's issues like dogs and sickness, which I think is much needed.
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Post by stupidflower on Sept 20, 2022 12:14:35 GMT -5
Bruh the allegiances say Myrtlepbloom 😂
But for real, I love Myrtlebloom now. She helps Nightheart see both sides of the argument all while being kind and supportive, she’s a good friend so far imo Of course she’s wrong (real name lol) but her intentions are good
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 20, 2022 12:16:38 GMT -5
99% of the stuff in here was really boring. RiverClan mystery > everything else.
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Post by Hollyfall on Sept 20, 2022 12:27:43 GMT -5
99% of the stuff in here was really boring. RiverClan mystery > everything else. watch it be resolved by book 3 lmao
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 20, 2022 12:28:00 GMT -5
And what do you know, I'm still annoyed with Nightheart! Seriously, if this continues, I'm afraid I'm actually going to have to skip this arc, which would be a first for me. Not even Twigbranch was this annoying to me as Nightheart is being right now. No. No they didn't. It fact, neither of them bring up Firestar even once for the entirety of the book!
You were judging your Clan for arrogance in the last book. Pot, meet kettle.
Despite the fact that Finchlight supported him in the last book. Although, if she's had to be in the middle before, then yeah, I can understand her frustration.
Not only were you not even mentioned as having been in the scene, but there's no reason you couldn't have gone with Sparkpelt like your sister had! And, y'know, it was exile!
Ouch, Finchlight!
IT WAS FOR A FEW DAYS, YOU BRAT! AND YOU WERE A NEWBORN! WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE SPARKPELT HAD NEGLECTED YOU FOR YOUR ENTIRE KITHOOD!?
Oof, bad wording there, Myrtlebloom! I also don't necessarily agree with what she's saying, but at the same time, I just appreciate someone is calling out Nightheart at all.
And yeah, everyone should be judged based on their own merit, but the way Nightheart is going about it is seriously grating and I'm still hoping it's intentional (wouldn't make it any less annoying, though)! However, this is a step up from the previous book since we're actually seeing cats judging him and not just being told about it.
Oh, yeah. Hope Rowankit is okay and I'm still more excited about the RiverClan stuff more than anything. You pretty much summed it up for me. I used to love Nightheart but his whining is just getting to be too much. I don't care about any of the protagonists anymore.
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 20, 2022 12:28:25 GMT -5
99% of the stuff in here was really boring. RiverClan mystery > everything else. watch it be resolved by book 3 lmao residentsleeper what'll they fill the other 3 books with then
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Sept 20, 2022 12:29:13 GMT -5
"Was he wrong for not trying to become what his Clan expected him to be? Or was ThunderClan wrong for asking him to spend his life keeping alive a memory that it was time to let go?"
Hmm, I think that is a jab at fans, too. Granted, Bramblestar isn't that great of a leader. I can also sympathize with both sides of Nightheart's name argument. I also think he has a point that it would be more justified if he had been named after Larksong. Hell, something like Cinder or Ember would be far better than Flame.
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Post by Hollyfall on Sept 20, 2022 12:35:23 GMT -5
Anyways time for my actual opinions Sunbeam continues to be boring. I don't care for her romantic life! The only promising aspect of her story was her romance with Blazefire but now that's gone. I do hope Rowankit is okay.
God...Nightheart continues to be annoying. Why would you openly disobey an order from Lionblaze, who's your superior? And then continues lamenting about how compared he is to Firestar when he isn't at all. Sparkpelt coninues to be insufferable too. Finchlight doesn't seem all that bad though. Nightheart used to be my favourite out of the protagonists, but now I'm not sure. Right now he's the only one with a distinguished personality though.
Still don't care enough about Frostpaw and still think she's a camera, but it's interesting to see how RiverClan is trying to function. Mothwing's desperately trying to hold the Clan together and no cat wants leadership. Splashtail trying to help Frostpaw is nice though. Interesting that Mothwing essentially told Frostpaw to put her feelings aside and go figure out a new leader. She's trying to be pragmatic but at the cost of Frostpaw's innocence. Overall the only promising aspect of this entire arc so far is the RiverClan murder mystery. Otherwise, everyone else is insufferable or boring. Can't say I'm really excited for this book all too much. I'm taking it this was the quote from the website a week or so ago. Might be a hint that the next leader might not be someone experienced like Shimmerpelt, Duskfur, or Icewing.
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All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 20, 2022 12:42:14 GMT -5
And what do you know, I'm still annoyed with Nightheart! Seriously, if this continues, I'm afraid I'm actually going to have to skip this arc, which would be a first for me. Not even Twigbranch was this annoying to me as Nightheart is being right now. No. No they didn't. It fact, neither of them bring up Firestar even once for the entirety of the book!
You were judging your Clan for arrogance in the last book. Pot, meet kettle.
Despite the fact that Finchlight supported him in the last book. Although, if she's had to be in the middle before, then yeah, I can understand her frustration.
Not only were you not even mentioned as having been in the scene, but there's no reason you couldn't have gone with Sparkpelt like your sister had! And, y'know, it was exile!
Ouch, Finchlight!
IT WAS FOR A FEW DAYS, YOU BRAT! AND YOU WERE A NEWBORN! WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE SPARKPELT HAD NEGLECTED YOU FOR YOUR ENTIRE KITHOOD!?
Oof, bad wording there, Myrtlebloom! I also don't necessarily agree with what she's saying, but at the same time, I just appreciate someone is calling out Nightheart at all.
And yeah, everyone should be judged based on their own merit, but the way Nightheart is going about it is seriously grating and I'm still hoping it's intentional (wouldn't make it any less annoying, though)! However, this is a step up from the previous book since we're actually seeing cats judging him and not just being told about it.
Oh, yeah. Hope Rowankit is okay and I'm still more excited about the RiverClan stuff more than anything. You pretty much summed it up for me. I used to love Nightheart but his whining is just getting to be too much. I don't care about any of the protagonists anymore. I actually like Frostpaw and Sunbeam, but Nightheart? I've never felt this annoyed with a fictional character in my life than I am currently with him! The Erins are clearly trying way too hard with his character if we're meant to be taking him seriously. Sunbeam I can see where the critique comes from, but I don't mind it. I like that we have a little breather PoV between intriguing murder mystery and annoying angst, though I don't really care much for her love life, either. And with Frostpaw, I don't really see her as a camera. Not every protagonist has to be as active in the plot as, say, Firestar was, not to mention the circumstances.
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 20, 2022 12:45:09 GMT -5
Allegiances just a copy paste of River, minus the new warriors and RiverClan having no deputy/leader of course. I really hate that the cats aren't listed in terms of seniority. It's freaking annoying.
Prologue is from Mistystar's POV, alright. She and Reedwhisker are worried about the danger in RiverClan and Mistystar is terrified. I'm really eager to learn who is behind all of this. Mistystar once again shows poor leadership when she doesn't want to warn them and Reedwhisker does.
Sunbeam, ugh. More romance stuff I don't care. God. I hope Rowankit lives but I wouldn't be surprised if he dies.
Nightheart isn't as good as he was in the last book considering he's still complaining. I do feel bad for him in that he feels isolated from the Clan still. I feel this is building up towards him leaving TC to join SC, that might be how the book ends? Either way the arc so far is doing a horrible job of "show, not tell". They say he is being constantly compared to Firestar when he hardly ever actually is??? Tf?
Frostpaw. Finally, the stuff I care about. Not for her, the plot. Okay so Mothwing changed her mind about telling the other Clans, I suppose the blurb makes sense now then. I was wondering about that. Grief about Curlfeather, the warriors who wanted to be leader aren't stepping up. Okay, nothing too surprising or shocking here. It cuts off just as stuff is getting interesting- she's going to go to the Moonpool again to figure out what happens next.
Overall: Sunbeam is boring with her lovelife/friendship drama, Nightheart is too angsty, and Frostpaw's personality is nonexistent and just revolves around the story of RiverClan's mystery. I'm not as excited for this as I was and I'll be reading the spoiler thread. This arc is shaping up to be pretty dull.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Sept 20, 2022 12:48:08 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, I don't feel any real dislike for the main characters so far. I'll get annoyed with Lionblaze and Birchfall, but I did before, too. Then again, I get a dislike for each main character, and I feel I am less defensive of them. My only complaint is that ThunderClan feels like ShadowClan cats. Out of the five Clans, ShadowClan and WindClan have taken a nosedive, and it saddens me to see ThunderClan following the same route.
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Post by Hollyfall on Sept 20, 2022 13:42:01 GMT -5
i honestly dont feel like nighthearts being that whiny here. yes, the firestar stuff is forced for the sake of the plot but if people were treatng me like that after i changed my name and all the other legacy stuff about some ancestor you dont even know? i wouldnt be happy either. especially since its coming from his own family. yikes I feel they're both in the wrong. Nightheart has a point about not wanting to feel tied down to his ancestor who he's never met and he wasn't given a choice about it, and genuinely just wants to represent himself as a cat and not someone who's been dead for years. But, the fact that all he does is whine and angst about it doesn't really make him sympathetic especially when the book tells us he's compared to Firestar but not showing us. All Sparkpelt did was name him after Firestar as a means of legacy and honoring someone great, not as a means of "I'm naming you after Firestar so you need to be as good as he is!". At least, that's how it's come across.
Not to mention Nightheart on the hunting patrol feels the need to "prove himself" and disobeys Lionblaze's orders, even though Lionblaze's concerns were over Nightheart's inexperience as a newly made warrior and not who he was as a character.
But at the same time, Sparkpelt's argument of "family means everything to me" is worthless and her shunning him for his choice in a name isn't helping much either. Nightheart isn't obligated to care about his family and has every right to be his own cat. Yes, she can be upset that Nightheart didn't like the name, but her treatment of him is just driving a wedge between them. Nightheart doesn't share her morals or values nor does he need to.
tl;dr: everyone sucks. aside from maybe Bramblestar and Finchlight
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 20, 2022 13:59:52 GMT -5
Why are people saying Brightheart is going to die? I skimmed, so I probably didn’t see that part.
Maybe Splashtail is going to be the next RC leader? She seems to be pretty sick. I hope it's Icewing or Minnowtail, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's neither of them.
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appleteeth
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Post by appleteeth on Sept 20, 2022 14:08:46 GMT -5
i found Nightheart extremely annoying and it’s clear the authors are just ruining finchlight and sparkpelt to give their little protagonist a reason to be whiny although it’s honestly just unreasonable
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Post by ratman on Sept 20, 2022 14:12:04 GMT -5
i honestly dont feel like nighthearts being that whiny here. yes, the firestar stuff is forced for the sake of the plot but if people were treatng me like that after i changed my name and all the other legacy stuff about some ancestor you dont even know? i wouldnt be happy either. especially since its coming from his own family. yikes I feel they're both in the wrong. Nightheart has a point about not wanting to feel tied down to his ancestor who he's never met and he wasn't given a choice about it, and genuinely just wants to represent himself as a cat and not someone who's been dead for years. But, the fact that all he does is whine and angst about it doesn't really make him sympathetic especially when the book tells us he's compared to Firestar but not showing us. All Sparkpelt did was name him after Firestar as a means of legacy and honoring someone great, not as a means of "I'm naming you after Firestar so you need to be as good as he is!". At least, that's how it's come across.
Not to mention Nightheart on the hunting patrol feels the need to "prove himself" and disobeys Lionblaze's orders, even though Lionblaze's concerns were over Nightheart's inexperience as a newly made warrior and not who he was as a character.
But at the same time, Sparkpelt's argument of "family means everything to me" is worthless and her shunning him for his choice in a name isn't helping much either. Nightheart isn't obligated to care about his family and has every right to be his own cat. Yes, she can be upset that Nightheart didn't like the name, but her treatment of him is just driving a wedge between them. Nightheart doesn't share her morals or values nor does he need to.
tl;dr: everyone sucks. aside from maybe Bramblestar and Finchlight oh yeah i dont have much more to say than i did before but i heavily agree with the telling and not showing bit. i think its probably for the best he does leave the clan and gets whatever he needs on his own terms, and maybe get along better with his mother since people often find they might find being with their parents occasionally does better for their relationship than being with them all the time. probably tones down the angsting part a lot since they wouldnt give a shit about firestar as much in shadowclan either so everyone wins
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 20, 2022 14:13:00 GMT -5
i honestly dont feel like nighthearts being that whiny here. yes, the firestar stuff is forced for the sake of the plot but if people were treatng me like that after i changed my name and all the other legacy stuff about some ancestor you dont even know? i wouldnt be happy either. especially since its coming from his own family. yikes I feel they're both in the wrong. Nightheart has a point about not wanting to feel tied down to his ancestor who he's never met and he wasn't given a choice about it, and genuinely just wants to represent himself as a cat and not someone who's been dead for years. But, the fact that all he does is whine and angst about it doesn't really make him sympathetic especially when the book tells us he's compared to Firestar but not showing us. All Sparkpelt did was name him after Firestar as a means of legacy and honoring someone great, not as a means of "I'm naming you after Firestar so you need to be as good as he is!". At least, that's how it's come across.
Not to mention Nightheart on the hunting patrol feels the need to "prove himself" and disobeys Lionblaze's orders, even though Lionblaze's concerns were over Nightheart's inexperience as a newly made warrior and not who he was as a character.
But at the same time, Sparkpelt's argument of "family means everything to me" is worthless and her shunning him for his choice in a name isn't helping much either. Nightheart isn't obligated to care about his family and has every right to be his own cat. Yes, she can be upset that Nightheart didn't like the name, but her treatment of him is just driving a wedge between them. Nightheart doesn't share her morals or values nor does he need to.
tl;dr: everyone sucks. aside from maybe Bramblestar and Finchlight All of this! And I'd feel more sorry for Nightheart if this actually had been an ongoing thing, but it isn't. He's also not taking any responsibility for his own behavior, which just makes it worse. Again, I'm hoping this is intentional! And if cats are being wary around him, then it's no wonder. All he's doing is being impulsive, feeling sorry for himself, and skewing what actually happened (again, hopefully it's intentional).
With Sparkpelt, I can see both sides. She absolutely shouldn't be shunning her son over this, but in fairness, the request for a name change came as a surprise to everyone and Nightheart wasn't really being that respectful about it, either. Even someone like Crowfeather showed more tact in comparison. I think it's safe to assume almost no one in the Clan knew about his resentment towards Firestar, either, and Sparkpelt probably sees it as a betrayal to Larksong as well, assuming they'd picked out the name together like they did with Flickerkit.
So yeah, good concept, terrible execution if we're meant to be taking Nightheart's side of things seriously.
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ratman
23/12/03—19/09/21 (thank you madie)
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Post by ratman on Sept 20, 2022 14:22:14 GMT -5
All of this! And I'd feel more sorry for Nightheart if this actually had been an ongoing thing, but it isn't. He's also not taking any responsibility for his own behavior, which just makes it worse. Again, I'm hoping this is intentional! And if cats are being wary around him, then it's no wonder. All he's doing is being impulsive, feeling sorry for himself, and skewing what actually happened (again, hopefully it's intentional).
With Sparkpelt, I can see both sides. She absolutely shouldn't be shunning her son over this, but in fairness, the request for a name change came as a surprise to everyone and Nightheart wasn't really being that respectful about it, either. Even someone like Crowfeather showed more tact in comparison. I think it's safe to assume almost no one in the Clan knew about his resentment towards Firestar, either, and Sparkpelt probably sees it as a betrayal to Larksong as well, assuming they'd picked out the name together like they did with Flickerkit.
So yeah, good concept, terrible execution if we're meant to be taking Nightheart's side of things seriously. the thing is his name still does reflect his father and bramblestar even says as much in his ceremony i believe, so its not like he just dropped that either (and he seems ok with it anyway, since it isnt firestar related at least in the first half anymore.) i think half the issue is the erins just arent showing what theyre saying is happening which tbf is an ongoing problem in the series (amongst other things lmao.)
while it would suck for sparkpelt that yeah maybe they did pick it out together as i said before its not like he dropped any homage to his father enitely, and ultimately it is his name. hes the one who has to live with it, and if hes unhappy with what it represents, then he should be able to change it. everyone should be able to. i dont think he was being that disrespectful, just moreso being a rash teenager i guess which yeah hes still pretty young
idk hope it makes sense i am very tired
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 20, 2022 14:35:57 GMT -5
All of this! And I'd feel more sorry for Nightheart if this actually had been an ongoing thing, but it isn't. He's also not taking any responsibility for his own behavior, which just makes it worse. Again, I'm hoping this is intentional! And if cats are being wary around him, then it's no wonder. All he's doing is being impulsive, feeling sorry for himself, and skewing what actually happened (again, hopefully it's intentional).
With Sparkpelt, I can see both sides. She absolutely shouldn't be shunning her son over this, but in fairness, the request for a name change came as a surprise to everyone and Nightheart wasn't really being that respectful about it, either. Even someone like Crowfeather showed more tact in comparison. I think it's safe to assume almost no one in the Clan knew about his resentment towards Firestar, either, and Sparkpelt probably sees it as a betrayal to Larksong as well, assuming they'd picked out the name together like they did with Flickerkit.
So yeah, good concept, terrible execution if we're meant to be taking Nightheart's side of things seriously. the thing is his name still does reflect his father and bramblestar even says as much in his ceremony i believe, so its not like he just dropped that either (and he seems ok with it anyway, since it isnt firestar related at least in the first half anymore.) i think half the issue is the erins just arent showing what theyre saying is happening which tbf is an ongoing problem in the series (amongst other things lmao.)
while it would suck for sparkpelt that yeah maybe they did pick it out together as i said before its not like he dropped any homage to his father enitely, and ultimately it is his name. hes the one who has to live with it, and if hes unhappy with what it represents, then he should be able to change it. everyone should be able to. i dont think he was being that disrespectful, just moreso being a rash teenager i guess which yeah hes still pretty young
idk hope it makes sense i am very tired
No, I get what you're saying. I just mean it's understandable why Sparkpelt would be upset since everything about the ceremony was so sudden, regardless of the name is even more of a direct reference to his father or not. Nightheart simply said he wasn't going to be called by Flameheart and wasn't even sure what he wanted to be called instead (contrast to Crowfeather, who had a plan and everything), so from her perspective, it could be seen as him just going through a rebellious phase. The fact that he already has impulsive tendencies doesn't help, either. ShadowClan's own apprentice rebellion also happened not too long ago, so that might have something to do with the disapproval as well if that makes sense. But yeah, I get him wanting to carve out his own path, I just wish he wasn't being so angsty about it.
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Post by ratman on Sept 20, 2022 14:40:28 GMT -5
the thing is his name still does reflect his father and bramblestar even says as much in his ceremony i believe, so its not like he just dropped that either (and he seems ok with it anyway, since it isnt firestar related at least in the first half anymore.) i think half the issue is the erins just arent showing what theyre saying is happening which tbf is an ongoing problem in the series (amongst other things lmao.)
while it would suck for sparkpelt that yeah maybe they did pick it out together as i said before its not like he dropped any homage to his father enitely, and ultimately it is his name. hes the one who has to live with it, and if hes unhappy with what it represents, then he should be able to change it. everyone should be able to. i dont think he was being that disrespectful, just moreso being a rash teenager i guess which yeah hes still pretty young
idk hope it makes sense i am very tired
No, I get what you're saying. I just mean it's understandable why Sparkpelt would be upset since everything about the ceremony was so sudden, regardless of the name is even more of a direct reference to his father or not. Nightheart simply said he wasn't going to be called by Flameheart and wasn't even sure what he wanted to be called instead (contrast to Crowfeather, who had a plan and everything), so from her perspective, it could be seen as him just going through a rebellious phase. The fact that he already has impulsive tendencies doesn't help, either. ShadowClan's own apprentice rebellion also happened not too long ago, so that might have something to do with the disapproval as well if that makes sense. But yeah, I get him wanting to carve out his own path, I just wish he wasn't being so angsty about it. ah ok. i suppose ultimately he is a teenager still even with his name, considering he was pretty impulsive about the hunting thing as well. which fair enough, it takes time for a person to grow. could definitely understand sparkpelt being a bit upset at that, though we all know shes taking it way too far by shunning him. why cant these cats just talk things out
though i think maybe if they didnt have literally everyone dogpiling him about it it might be a little less annoying to read for people. but warriors is definitely not known for being subtle lmfao
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Sept 20, 2022 14:42:35 GMT -5
Honest to god the RiverClan plotline is more interesting than any of the characters lmao Nightheart is whiny, Sunbeam's story revolves around her romantic life, and Frostpaw is just a camera thats rude
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