|
Post by vectoring34 on Nov 1, 2021 21:33:46 GMT -5
When a book series has dragged on now for over a decade, it's inevitable there's going to be a generational divide. What takes do you hear which make you immediately think, "Oh, this person has been in the fandom waaaaaay longer than me"?
I would say this is about asking what takes make you say "okay, boomer", but I don't think Warriors is quite old enough for that to be accurate.
|
|
|
|
Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 1, 2021 22:14:54 GMT -5
im a "genwunner" of warriors. i've got this one!
back in my day, there wasn't a focus on fatherhood and nuclear families in the seires, and queens could keep their kits fathers a secret. and it was slightly more realistic this way since female cats are capable of having multiple mates within the one litter
|
|
Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
|
Post by Cloudstorm on Nov 1, 2021 22:28:45 GMT -5
im a "genwunner" of warriors. i've got this one! back in my day, there wasn't a focus on fatherhood and nuclear families in the seires, and queens could keep their kits fathers a secret. and it was slightly more realistic this way since female cats are capable of having multiple mates within the one litter those were the days , while I do appreciate there being more focus on Fatherhood , what they've done with the family tree is pretty sacrilegious from what I've heard , and personally I've never even looked at it myself .
|
|
|
Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 1, 2021 22:58:29 GMT -5
im a "genwunner" of warriors. i've got this one! back in my day, there wasn't a focus on fatherhood and nuclear families in the seires, and queens could keep their kits fathers a secret. and it was slightly more realistic this way since female cats are capable of having multiple mates within the one litter those were the days , while I do appreciate there being more focus on Fatherhood , what they've done with the family tree is pretty sacrilegious from what I've heard , and personally I've never even looked at it myself . back in my day, the family tree headcanons were fairgame, but now the family tree is screwed up (im looking at adderfang x swiftbreeze, and all those other prequel material crap that ruins so much) im one of the very few people in here that care this much about family trees and genetics lmao
|
|
Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
|
Post by Cloudstorm on Nov 1, 2021 23:25:05 GMT -5
those were the days , while I do appreciate there being more focus on Fatherhood , what they've done with the family tree is pretty sacrilegious from what I've heard , and personally I've never even looked at it myself . back in my day, the family tree headcanons were fairgame, but now the family tree is screwed up (im looking at adderfang x swiftbreeze, and all those other prequel material crap that ruins so much) im one of the very few people in here that care this much about family trees and genetics lmao I faintly care about the genetics and family trees , but would of rather had it left a mystery and just let everybody y with it . but sadly everyone insisted on them making a family tree ,so now we are stuck with the mess they've delivered . edit: I looked at the family tree, and by golly is it an atrocity for my eyes , it's so confusing trying to decipher that mangled mess and figure out which lines are connected to whom , maybe I'll try to make sense of it later .
|
|
|
Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 1, 2021 23:55:07 GMT -5
back in my day, the family tree headcanons were fairgame, but now the family tree is screwed up (im looking at adderfang x swiftbreeze, and all those other prequel material crap that ruins so much) im one of the very few people in here that care this much about family trees and genetics lmao I faintly care about the genetics and family trees , but would of rather had it left a mystery and just let everybody y with it . but sadly everyone insisted on them making a family tree ,so now we are stuck with the mess they've delivered . edit: I looked at the family tree, and by golly is it an atrocity for my eyes , it's so confusing trying to decipher that mangled mess and figure out which lines are connected to whom , maybe I'll try to make sense of it later . the official website's tree also makes me angry lol i'll forever be pissed about certain cats being "related" from the first arc (leopardfoot, patchpelt, willowpelt, spottedleaf, and redtail is my biggest complaint. next one is brindleface and frostfur being the sisters to dustpelt and ravenpaw. dust and raven being brothers makes NO SENSE AT ALL!!)
|
|
|
Post by kells on Nov 2, 2021 2:09:26 GMT -5
don't personally have any biggest 'back in my day ' takes that i've heard from other people . but I certainly can contribute to them . So strictly for fun , does anyone remember when like 70% of the readers shipped Bramblesquirrel , And thunderclan was considered the best. ? It really is strange to see so many people hating them now, back then, people usually really hated BrambleSquirrel because it got in the way of AshSquirrel My take: remember when the moonpool was able to be visited by everyone? And when there wasn't 60+ cats in each clan?
|
|
|
Post by suicunetobigaara on Nov 2, 2021 3:57:53 GMT -5
The naming system.
I remember there is a whole bunch of rules regarding names, moreso than what is stated in the book. And specific suffixes were given to cats based on personality traits or looks, eg pelt are average warriors, or claw to good fighters, cloud to kind cats and storm to aggressive cats.
But then there were cats like Whitestorm, Windflight, Runningwind, etc.
Nowadays the names are a lot more free.
|
|
|
Post by vectoring34 on Nov 2, 2021 8:27:41 GMT -5
im a "genwunner" of warriors. i've got this one! back in my day, there wasn't a focus on fatherhood and nuclear families in the seires, and queens could keep their kits fathers a secret. and it was slightly more realistic this way since female cats are capable of having multiple mates within the one litter Genwunner, that's the word I was looking for! Anyway, yeah, monogamy seems to be one of the biggest gaps generationally.
|
|
|
Post by Skypaw13 on Nov 2, 2021 23:24:02 GMT -5
don't personally have any biggest 'back in my day ' takes that i've heard from other people . but I certainly can contribute to them . So strictly for fun , does anyone remember when like 70% of the readers shipped Bramblesquirrel , And thunderclan was considered the best. ? It really is strange to see so many people hating them now, back then, people usually really hated BrambleSquirrel because it got in the way of AshSquirrel My take: remember when the moonpool was able to be visited by everyone? And when there wasn't 60+ cats in each clan? The Moonpool wasn't ever culturally acceptable to be visited by everyone. As early as The Sight, Firestar sends Leafpool to the Moonpool instead of going himself, and it's implied later on when Jaypaw shows up that it's a medicine-cats only zone. If you mean the Moonstone though, you're right, that was absolutely a thing.
|
|
|
Post by cable on Nov 2, 2021 23:44:31 GMT -5
The naming system. I remember there is a whole bunch of rules regarding names, moreso than what is stated in the book. And specific suffixes were given to cats based on personality traits or looks, eg pelt are average warriors, or claw to good fighters, cloud to kind cats and storm to aggressive cats. But then there were cats like Whitestorm, Windflight, Runningwind, etc. Nowadays the names are a lot more free. i like the idea of prescribing meanings to names but man people were so tight about what could be used back then. i remember seeing somebody “fixing” later names and like 90% of the names just ended up becomes (blank)claw.
|
|
|
Post by suicunetobigaara on Nov 3, 2021 1:09:24 GMT -5
The naming system. I remember there is a whole bunch of rules regarding names, moreso than what is stated in the book. And specific suffixes were given to cats based on personality traits or looks, eg pelt are average warriors, or claw to good fighters, cloud to kind cats and storm to aggressive cats. But then there were cats like Whitestorm, Windflight, Runningwind, etc. Nowadays the names are a lot more free. i like the idea of prescribing meanings to names but man people were so tight about what could be used back then. i remember seeing somebody “fixing” later names and like 90% of the names just ended up becomes (blank)claw. Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. I like names that fit the personality or appearance of a cat. But they were so strict in what was allowed and not allowed as prefixes and suffixes and it was limiting. So many roleplay groups and au-rewrites I looked at did that.
|
|
|
Post by sylveon on Nov 3, 2021 2:21:37 GMT -5
i like the idea of prescribing meanings to names but man people were so tight about what could be used back then. i remember seeing somebody “fixing” later names and like 90% of the names just ended up becomes (blank)claw. Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. I like names that fit the personality or appearance of a cat. But they were so strict in what was allowed and not allowed as prefixes and suffixes and it was limiting. So many roleplay groups and au-rewrites I looked at did that. I agree! There's some that I think sound pretty but have no meaning (Bristlefrost, Plumstone for example) I know Firestar went against traditional names but the majority still made sense (Briarlight for her spirit, Lionblaze for his strength and energy) Like I don't hate the new naming style, it just seems like they're trying to make everything pretty instead of meaningful
|
|
|
Post by Saint Ambrosef on Nov 3, 2021 8:47:29 GMT -5
spotted/fire was innocuous and sweet, if tragic. then they made spottedleaf haunt firestar forever lmao.
|
|
|
Post by Aqua on Nov 3, 2021 9:53:41 GMT -5
Back in my days, everyone loved Spottedleaf. Heck, I was even one of those Spottedleaf lovers, and she used to be my favorite character. I still don't think she's as bad as people say she is, but now most people hate her because of her obsession over Firestar. Things have changed about Spottedleaf so much since. I could even consider her as one of the most hated characters lol.
|
|
|
Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
|
Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 3, 2021 12:54:38 GMT -5
I have been reading these books since 2007 but took a break from 2015 to 2020. I only heard that Ferncloud got killed off by the authors in the Great Battle because some fans thought she was boring/not contributing enough. Like what the actual heck!?
|
|
#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
|
Post by Featherstar on Nov 3, 2021 12:58:02 GMT -5
I have been reading these books since the beginning of 2020.
|
|
#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
|
Post by Featherstar on Nov 3, 2021 17:23:54 GMT -5
I have been reading these books since the beginning of 2020. Hey Featherstar, could you please stop talking about major spoilers in random threads? Even with the spoiler tag I'd rather not see it in threads that aren't about TBC. Ok. And I will delete it.
|
|
#04F9B3
StarClan leader
Name Colour
Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
|
Post by Featherstar on Nov 3, 2021 17:24:43 GMT -5
Hey Featherstar, could you please stop talking about major spoilers in random threads? Even with the spoiler tag I'd rather not see it in threads that aren't about TBC. Ok. And I will delete it. Done.
|
|
|
Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 3, 2021 17:29:36 GMT -5
Wow it's so weird how perspectives has changed on spottedleaf so drastically, I wonder who will be the next Adored to Hated character in a couple years. I only recently started talking about warrior online in 2019, so I'm still a pretty young fan and don't really have any takes yet. I'll probably have some in a couple years or so though if warrior's is still a thing.
|
|
|
Post by vectoring34 on Nov 3, 2021 17:55:26 GMT -5
Wow it's so weird how perspectives has changed on spottedleaf so drastically, I wonder who will be the next Adored to Hated character in a couple years. I only recently started talking about warrior online in 2019, so I'm still a pretty young fan and don't really have any takes yet. I'll probably have some in a couple years or so though if warrior's is still a thing. They don't have to be your takes, it can just be stuff you've heard from other people
|
|
|
|
Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 3, 2021 18:47:16 GMT -5
I agree that it's weird to see that SquirrelxBramble is so hated now, it used to be really popular. Remember when not every cat in a clan was named? The allegiances weren't clogged with background cats like it is now. And WindClan only had like three warriors at one point. A part of me misses not having every cat named--because at least there wouldn't be so many names to remember. windclan continues to be shafted though. they still have the least amount of cats, and the majority of windclan and to some extent riverclan too, their warrior counts are mostly made up of old cats by now (like cats who r still from the first and second arcs kind of old). edit: i had to go through the allegiances to fact check this lol cats from TNP and Po3 (who i consider old and have over stayed their welcome by TBC): harestar, crowfeather, kestrelflight, nightcloud, leaftail, breezepelt, heathertail, sedgewhisker cats from OotS+DwS+BrS (who i consider senior warriors by TBC and who should make up the bulk of the warrior crowd): featherpelt, crouchfoot, larkwing, slightfoot, oatclaw, hootwhisker cats from AVOS through TBC (who i consider the younger warrior/apprentice crowd): brindlewing, appleshine, woodsong, fernstripe; songpaw, flutterpaw, whistlepaw
|
|
|
Post by Skypaw13 on Nov 3, 2021 19:12:26 GMT -5
Ooh, the Allegiances. Yeah, I prefer the OS version of Allegiances where the only purpose of them was so you knew which Clan MENTIONED characters belonged to. If a cat wasn't mentioned in the story, they didn't appear in the Allegiances because you shouldn't care about them. That's my boomer take of the day. Stop caring about characters who have literally zero presence in the story.
(Been reading the series since 2005, so I think I qualify as a Warrior Cats boomer, lol)
|
|
|
Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Nov 3, 2021 19:25:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. I like names that fit the personality or appearance of a cat. But they were so strict in what was allowed and not allowed as prefixes and suffixes and it was limiting. So many roleplay groups and au-rewrites I looked at did that. I agree! There's some that I think sound pretty but have no meaning (Bristlefrost, Plumstone for example) I know Firestar went against traditional names but the majority still made sense (Briarlight for her spirit, Lionblaze for his strength and energy) Like I don't hate the new naming style, it just seems like they're trying to make everything pretty instead of meaningful I honestly like the new naming system better. I remember the days when we'd all say that they can't use Clan names, "Moon", "Sun," or "Sky" (before we knew about SkyClan) in names. But then Bluestar's Prophecy came out and we got Windflight and Moonflower. I liked when the names had more meaning to them, don't get me wrong, but I think we have a lot of cooler, prettier, and more unique names now than we did back then.
|
|
|
Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Nov 3, 2021 19:27:03 GMT -5
Ooh, the Allegiances. Yeah, I prefer the OS version of Allegiances where the only purpose of them was so you knew which Clan MENTIONED characters belonged to. If a cat wasn't mentioned in the story, they didn't appear in the Allegiances because you shouldn't care about them. That's my boomer take of the day. Stop caring about characters who have literally zero presence in the story. (Been reading the series since 2005, so I think I qualify as a Warrior Cats boomer, lol) Okay, I kind of agree with this, and I kind of don't. I really do like knowing the cats in all the Clans, even if we don't see them in the book. At the same time, it was definitely a lot easier when only the mentioned cats were in the allegiances.
|
|
|
Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Nov 3, 2021 19:29:35 GMT -5
back in my day, people (typically in rp circles) claimed that 'moon' is a sacred name, and therefore it was on the banned prefix list for a lot of warriors rps. i never really understood why one of the erins (maybe vicky?) said this in the first place. other than a full moon signifying that a gathering is to take place, the moon doesn't seem to pop up very often when characters in warriors are discussing their religion or folklore. I feel like "Moon" could've been considered "sacred" because of the Moonstone and Moonpool? That's the only other thing I can think of tbh.
|
|
Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
|
Post by Cloudstorm on Nov 3, 2021 19:55:21 GMT -5
Probably one of the bigger hot takes , there may be bigger idk . But back in my day , back in 2004 everyone ,and I mean practically everyone that was reading the series at that time , absolutely FLIPPED/lost there shit when Vicky Holmes killed off yellowfang ( since this was back when she actually had popularity and was practically everyone’s favorite medicine cat at the time ) was definitely one of the most divisive , heartbreaking moments back in my day , and i know a lot of people got pretty sassy over email about it , since this was back before the wcrpforums , blogclan or any other Fan made community revolving around this fandom , or any other media that you contact the Erins through . ( heck , internet in General still had training wheels attached to it basically lol). How the times have changed , yellowfangs popularity has quite literally had a 360 turn in popularity since then .
how you’ve fallen from grace you Flea-bitten grumpy mange-pelt .
|
|