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Post by Aqua on Sept 21, 2021 10:37:02 GMT -5
What's your opinion on him? To me, he's just a huge asshole, lol. I know he's a good cat, but he's a big bully. Not a huge fan.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 21, 2021 11:13:29 GMT -5
Dislike. But I've seen worse than Scorchfur so I'm still able to enjoy his douchiness.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 21, 2021 11:18:09 GMT -5
Dislike! I really don't care how much he loves his family or how good his intentions were. It'd be one thing if he learned something after turning on Rowanclaw in favor of Darktail, but he never does and only complains.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 21, 2021 11:37:18 GMT -5
I like him, he amuses me without annoying me like other jerkwad characters. I could write more about why I like him, but I don't feel like it right now, maybe later though. I will say one thing though, I respect how he's not afraid to speak his mind, no matter who he's talking to.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 21, 2021 11:42:30 GMT -5
I had to look him up, honestly can't remember much on him but his daughter is cloverfoot so thats cool. I'll have to go with neutral
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Sept 21, 2021 14:01:22 GMT -5
Hate. He's a bit of a jerk and really annoying. I like that he's a good and caring mate to Snowbird, but he's an insufferable guy towards other cats.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 21, 2021 14:02:46 GMT -5
i like him.
he's WAY too overhated...like dude, do people forget tawnypelt struck first? he was acting in self defense...because you know what? scorchfur is a family man and he lost a lot. he cares about his family first. how is he a bad guy just because of that?
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Post by Chicken on Sept 21, 2021 14:12:03 GMT -5
i like him. he's WAY too overhated...like dude, do people forget tawnypelt struck first? he was acting in self defense...because you know what? scorchfur is a family man and he lost a lot. he cares about his family first. how is he a bad guy just because of that? He was also one of the main cats against Rowanstar, I don't blame him for being upset, I just wish he had handled it a different way, but he doesn't really seem like the type to think things through.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 21, 2021 14:12:14 GMT -5
i like him. he's WAY too overhated...like dude, do people forget tawnypelt struck first? he was acting in self defense...because you know what? scorchfur is a family man and he lost a lot. he cares about his family first. how is he a bad guy just because of that? Maybe because it doesn't matter that Tawnypelt struck first? Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, Scorchfur lost alot. So did Tawnypelt. So what? So what if Scorchfur's a family cat? None of it excuses what the other did, but the problem with Scorchfur is that he never learns. Even his own Clanmate called him out on his complaining after Rowanclaw dissolved ShadowClan.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 21, 2021 14:18:38 GMT -5
i like him. he's WAY too overhated...like dude, do people forget tawnypelt struck first? he was acting in self defense...because you know what? scorchfur is a family man and he lost a lot. he cares about his family first. how is he a bad guy just because of that? Maybe because it doesn't matter that Tawnypelt struck first? Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, Scorchfur lost alot. So did Tawnypelt. So what? So what if Scorchfur's a family cat? None of it excuses what the other did, but the problem with Scorchfur is that he never learns. Even his own Clanmate called him out on his complaining after Rowanclaw dissolved ShadowClan. nah im not gonna debate. i just dont like tawnypelt or rowanstar, and think they were awful in AVOS.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 21, 2021 17:22:56 GMT -5
Dislike. I find Scorchfur to be an annoying jerk.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 17:31:55 GMT -5
Hate. Worst kind of personality. I don’t care how much he lost, other cats lost just as much if not more, and he provides 0 help in anything. He whines like a child and says nasty and cruel things. Speaking your mind isn’t an excuse to be a complete ass. He’s trash.
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All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 21, 2021 17:47:27 GMT -5
So, out of boredom, I decided to compile Scorchfur's more standout moments from AVoS onwards. I don't know why I keep doing this to myself, but make of this what you will. So, context: ShadowClan was suffering from a plague that only WindClan had the cure to. Onestar refused to give it to them, so Scorchfur later suggests that they keep Twigpaw hostage after she sneaks onto their territory to speak to Violetpaw.
Crowfrost later lets her go, angering ShadowClan.
The first time we actually see Scorchfur question Rowanstar is after his daughter Yarrowleaf gets sick.
Most of ShadowClan later rallies behind Darktail is favor of Rowanstar after refusing to go to the Gathering.
During Darktail's reign, Scorchfur is shown to disapprove of it.
After the Kin are defeated, Scorchfur apologizes to Rowanstar.
Later, Rowanstar gives some land to SkyClan.
He later gets into an argument with Rowanstar, which soon escalates into a fight with Tawnypelt.
Just as a side note here, but it was actually implied previously that fighting in ShadowClan seemed to be a regular thing. It seems like attacking the eye is what's seen as dishonorable.
Moving on, after the fight, Scorchfur and Juniperclaw try to go join SkyClan.
Even later, after Rowanclaw dissolves ShadowClan, Scorchfur is one of the cats to disapprove.
When Sleekwhisker and Yarrowleaf return, he's one of the cats to get upset when Leafstar tries sending them away.
After ShadowClan is restored and is in conflict with SkyClan, he's one of the cats to help destroy SkyClan's dens.
Much later, ShadowClan has fallen into misfortune yet again after Ashfur takes control of Bramblestar. He's adamant that Dovewing has to atone to the point of telling "Bramblestar" that Tigerstar brought Dovewing home early.
Personally, I still don't like him.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 21, 2021 18:09:26 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 These quotes only make me agree for his side even more, not the opposite. He just seems like he's scared of losing not only his mate and daughter, but of what will happen to all of his clanmates, and that fear is causing him to lash out in anger. so it's ok if someone like squirrelflight or tawnypelt express their concern for THEIR losses, but if scorchfur does it, he's the devil and shouldn't speak his mind at all? how hypocritical of this fandom to treat scorchfur. plus, the quote with juniperclaw saying scorchfur wasn't alone in wanting a stronger leader just strengthens my opinion of scorchfur too lol
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Post by Chicken on Sept 21, 2021 18:13:21 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵Thanks for posting these quotes, but I agree with Briar that it makes me like him more, Juniperclaw too. Honestly, I just think he was afraid, and that fear was coming out in anger, I think outside of high stress situations, he'd be a much more likable cat. Honestly, he reminds me a bit of a less ambitious version of Mudclaw, with wanting to do what he can to protect the clan, but he doesn't go about it the right way, but considering the high stress situation, it is a bit hard to think clearly, I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying I understand.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 18:37:29 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 These quotes only make me agree for his side even more, not the opposite. He just seems like he's scared of losing not only his mate and daughter, but of what will happen to all of his clanmates, and that fear is causing him to lash out in anger. so it's ok if someone like squirrelflight or tawnypelt express their concern for THEIR losses, but if scorchfur does it, he's the devil and shouldn't speak his mind at all? how hypocritical of this fandom to treat scorchfur. plus, the quote with juniperclaw saying scorchfur wasn't alone in wanting a stronger leader just strengthens my opinion of scorchfur too lol My issue is that complain as he may, he not once has ever offered an actual solution to a problem beyond blaming everyone else. He’s so quick to shoulder off all his own blame and is not capable of any kind of compromise. Maybe the fandom’s annoyed that his criticisms aren’t even helpful. They’re cruel and disgusting and aiming to hurt, not to help. If he truly cared about his clan, he wouldn’t be making everything into a problem and refusing to find a solution. He expects one cat to solve every single issue. And I’m sorry, but even leaders literally cannot solve any problems if every single offered solution is shot down and treated like the worst option in the world. He’s a bully. Not even an interesting one either. He has 0 justification for treating everyone like crap for something he willingly chose to support. He chose it. He has nobody to blame but himself if his time with Darktail sucked.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 21, 2021 18:41:40 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 These quotes only make me agree for his side even more, not the opposite. He just seems like he's scared of losing not only his mate and daughter, but of what will happen to all of his clanmates, and that fear is causing him to lash out in anger. so it's ok if someone like squirrelflight or tawnypelt express their concern for THEIR losses, but if scorchfur does it, he's the devil and shouldn't speak his mind at all? how hypocritical of this fandom to treat scorchfur. plus, the quote with juniperclaw saying scorchfur wasn't alone in wanting a stronger leader just strengthens my opinion of scorchfur too lol My issue is that complain as he may, he not once has ever offered an actual solution to a problem beyond blaming everyone else. He’s so quick to shoulder off all his own blame and is not capable of any kind of compromise. Maybe the fandom’s annoyed that his criticisms aren’t even helpful. They’re cruel and disgusting and aiming to hurt, not to help. If he truly cared about his clan, he wouldn’t be making everything into a problem and refusing to find a solution. He expects one cat to solve every single issue. And I’m sorry, but even leaders literally cannot solve any problems if every single offered solution is shot down and treated like the worst option in the world. He’s a bully. Not even an interesting one either. He has 0 justification for treating everyone like crap for something he willingly chose to support. He chose it. He has nobody to blame but himself if his time with Darktail sucked. Scorchfur is obviously in emotional distress and not thinking clearly. And he's not the only one in that time, so why don't cats like Spikefur get any hate? Or Juniperclaw? why is tawnypelt the only one who gets to express emotional distress and not get the same level of hate? the point is, scorchfur isn't being seen from his perspective. he's as much as distressed as tawnypelt, so just because he's on the other side of her perspective, doesn't mean he's a villain like people think he is.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 21, 2021 19:10:07 GMT -5
I forgot, I left out his scenes from TC.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 19:22:08 GMT -5
My issue is that complain as he may, he not once has ever offered an actual solution to a problem beyond blaming everyone else. He’s so quick to shoulder off all his own blame and is not capable of any kind of compromise. Maybe the fandom’s annoyed that his criticisms aren’t even helpful. They’re cruel and disgusting and aiming to hurt, not to help. If he truly cared about his clan, he wouldn’t be making everything into a problem and refusing to find a solution. He expects one cat to solve every single issue. And I’m sorry, but even leaders literally cannot solve any problems if every single offered solution is shot down and treated like the worst option in the world. He’s a bully. Not even an interesting one either. He has 0 justification for treating everyone like crap for something he willingly chose to support. He chose it. He has nobody to blame but himself if his time with Darktail sucked. Scorchfur is obviously in emotional distress and not thinking clearly. And he's not the only one in that time, so why don't cats like Spikefur get any hate? Or Juniperclaw? why is tawnypelt the only one who gets to express emotional distress and not get the same level of hate? the point is, scorchfur isn't being seen from his perspective. he's as much as distressed as tawnypelt, so just because he's on the other side of her perspective, doesn't mean he's a villain like people think he is. Oh, I dislike Spikefur and Juniperclaw as well in these scenes, as they provide just as much complaint with 0 solutions, so don’t worry about me only disliking Scorchfur. Those two get my disdain too. Not to mention nobody’s excusing Tawnypelt either. I certainly don’t, but honestly I can see why she would be pissed off at the same cat who basically told her to her face that the cat who drowned and murdered her daughter was some great leader. Yetttt he also is a cowardly idiot in front of Darktail and believes he’s an awful leader so why would he say that if not to simply just hurt Rowanstar, who was actually trying to find solutions but never got a single lick of genuine support or advice that wasn’t outright violence or codebreaking. I’m not saying Scorchfur is some monster. But I am saying that he and his posse are cowards who blame every cat but themselves for their own choices. The entire clan is in distress. Scorchfur doesn’t get a free pass to be a disgusting and unhelpful ass.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 21, 2021 19:24:03 GMT -5
Scorchfur is obviously in emotional distress and not thinking clearly. And he's not the only one in that time, so why don't cats like Spikefur get any hate? Or Juniperclaw? why is tawnypelt the only one who gets to express emotional distress and not get the same level of hate? the point is, scorchfur isn't being seen from his perspective. he's as much as distressed as tawnypelt, so just because he's on the other side of her perspective, doesn't mean he's a villain like people think he is. Oh, I dislike Spikefur and Juniperclaw as well in these scenes, as they provide just as much complaint with 0 solutions, so don’t worry about me only disliking Scorchfur. Those two get my disdain too. Not to mention nobody’s excusing Tawnypelt either. I certainly don’t, but honestly I can see why she would be pissed off at the same cat who basically told her to her face that the cat who drowned and murdered her daughter was some great leader. Yetttt he also is a cowardly idiot in front of Darktail and believes he’s an awful leader so why would he say that if not to simply just hurt Rowanstar, who was actually trying to find solutions but never got a single lick of genuine support or advice that wasn’t outright violence or codebreaking. I’m not saying Scorchfur is some monster. But I am saying that he and his posse are cowards who blame every cat but themselves for their own choices. The entire clan is in distress. Scorchfur doesn’t get a free pass to be a disgusting and unhelpful ass. nah, i'll agree to disagree. i don't like rowanstar and i hate tawnypelt. i view scorchfur and the others who agreed with him as the better side in comparison, and i dont wanna debate back and forth on it.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 19:25:17 GMT -5
Oh, I dislike Spikefur and Juniperclaw as well in these scenes, as they provide just as much complaint with 0 solutions, so don’t worry about me only disliking Scorchfur. Those two get my disdain too. Not to mention nobody’s excusing Tawnypelt either. I certainly don’t, but honestly I can see why she would be pissed off at the same cat who basically told her to her face that the cat who drowned and murdered her daughter was some great leader. Yetttt he also is a cowardly idiot in front of Darktail and believes he’s an awful leader so why would he say that if not to simply just hurt Rowanstar, who was actually trying to find solutions but never got a single lick of genuine support or advice that wasn’t outright violence or codebreaking. I’m not saying Scorchfur is some monster. But I am saying that he and his posse are cowards who blame every cat but themselves for their own choices. The entire clan is in distress. Scorchfur doesn’t get a free pass to be a disgusting and unhelpful ass. nah, i'll agree to disagree. i don't like rowanstar and i hate tawnypelt. i view scorchfur and the others who agreed with him as the better side in comparison, and i dont wanna debate back and forth on it. Bigggg agree to disagree, I hate Scorchfur and see Tawny and Rowan as the better side so yeah. Don’t plan on debating uselessly lmao
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 19:28:40 GMT -5
But yeah anyways Scorchfur is garbage and I honestly hope he dies soon. I don’t really care to read about cats who blame everyone else for their own idiotic decisions. His daughter is way better anyway, and Shadowclan would be miles better without a cat like him. Literally not that great a background cat either. One note jerk who isn’t an awful father but is certainly an awful cat in general.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 19:30:22 GMT -5
I forget, I left out his scenes from TC.
Ahh scenes like this make me fully understand why Tawnypelt didn’t want anything to do with Shadowclan in that novella. I wouldn’t either, with awful clanmates like that. Of course here we see the Tigerstar worship, hoorayyyy
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Post by Chicken on Sept 21, 2021 19:32:47 GMT -5
I feel like no one in this situation should get blame, Scorchfur, Rowanstar, Tawnypelt, none of them. They were all obviously not thinking clearly because of the heightened emotions, and they all thought they were on the right side from their perspective. When it comes to who is morally in the right, I agree that it's Rowanstar and Tawnypelt (minus the slapping situation, she's not morally right there, neither of them are), I'm not trying to absolve anyone by saying that no one should get any blame, I just think it's not that simple.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 21, 2021 19:35:13 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 These quotes only make me agree for his side even more, not the opposite. He just seems like he's scared of losing not only his mate and daughter, but of what will happen to all of his clanmates, and that fear is causing him to lash out in anger. so it's ok if someone like squirrelflight or tawnypelt express their concern for THEIR losses, but if scorchfur does it, he's the devil and shouldn't speak his mind at all? how hypocritical of this fandom to treat scorchfur. plus, the quote with juniperclaw saying scorchfur wasn't alone in wanting a stronger leader just strengthens my opinion of scorchfur too lol My issue is that complain as he may, he not once has ever offered an actual solution to a problem beyond blaming everyone else. He’s so quick to shoulder off all his own blame and is not capable of any kind of compromise. Maybe the fandom’s annoyed that his criticisms aren’t even helpful. They’re cruel and disgusting and aiming to hurt, not to help. If he truly cared about his clan, he wouldn’t be making everything into a problem and refusing to find a solution. He expects one cat to solve every single issue. And I’m sorry, but even leaders literally cannot solve any problems if every single offered solution is shot down and treated like the worst option in the world. He’s a bully. Not even an interesting one either. He has 0 justification for treating everyone like crap for something he willingly chose to support. He chose it. He has nobody to blame but himself if his time with Darktail sucked. Exactly! Say what you will about Tawnypelt and Squirrelflight or any other cat (even though this isn't about them; just speaking generally here, but talking about someone completely different won't strengthen your argument and there's a reason why whataboutism is considered a logical fallacy), but Scorchfur has never—and I mean never—done anything except complain, unless you count when he suggested taking Twigpaw hostage, a plan Crowfrost shouldn't have even agreed with! He's all talk, no action, and time only time I felt bad for him was when it came to Yarrowleaf. Emotional distress shouldn't give someone the right to act so horribly, especially if this behavior is on a consistent basis. Scorchfur has been called out quite a few times now and hasn't changed a bit. It'd be one thing if he was at least trying to contribute to the conversation without hurting other cats, but this isn't the case. It's incredibly obvious his words mean to hurt, not help. Not all criticism has to be spoken so harshly and Scorchfur—a cat who has already seen his fair share of misery in ShadowClan, including the rise of Sol—should know better by now.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 19:40:07 GMT -5
I feel like no one in this situation should get blame, Scorchfur, Rowanstar, Tawnypelt, none of them. They were all obviously not thinking clearly because of the heightened emotions, and they all thought they were on the right side from their perspective. When it comes to who is morally in the right, I agree that it's Rowanstar and Tawnypelt (minus the slapping situation, she's not morally right there, neither of them are), I'm not trying to absolve anyone by saying that no one should get any blame, I just think it's not that simple. I do agree with this. This is what I’m saying in general. The blame game is annoying in that even if everyone was wrong or right, nobody needed to say such blatantly nasty and unhelpful things in the situation. That’s why, even if I understand Scorchfur’s emotions, he shouldn’t have started conflict when it was obviously just to kick a dead horse. That’s why I hate him, not because he had criticisms, but because he clearly just wants to hurt an already immensely beat down cat.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 21, 2021 19:41:13 GMT -5
My issue is that complain as he may, he not once has ever offered an actual solution to a problem beyond blaming everyone else. He’s so quick to shoulder off all his own blame and is not capable of any kind of compromise. Maybe the fandom’s annoyed that his criticisms aren’t even helpful. They’re cruel and disgusting and aiming to hurt, not to help. If he truly cared about his clan, he wouldn’t be making everything into a problem and refusing to find a solution. He expects one cat to solve every single issue. And I’m sorry, but even leaders literally cannot solve any problems if every single offered solution is shot down and treated like the worst option in the world. He’s a bully. Not even an interesting one either. He has 0 justification for treating everyone like crap for something he willingly chose to support. He chose it. He has nobody to blame but himself if his time with Darktail sucked. Exactly! Say what you will about Tawnypelt and Squirrelflight or any other cat (even though this isn't about them; just speaking generally here, but talking about someone completely different won't strengthen your argument and there's a reason why whataboutism is considered a logical fallacy), but Scorchfur has never—and I mean never—done anything except complain, unless you count when he suggested taking Twigpaw hostage, a plan Crowfrost shouldn't have even agreed with! He's all talk, no action, and time only time I felt bad for him was when it came to Yarrowleaf. Emotional distress shouldn't give someone the right to act so horribly, especially if this behavior is on a consistent basis. Scorchfur has been called out quite a few times now and hasn't changed a bit. It'd be one thing if he was at least trying to contribute to the conversation without hurting other cats, but this isn't the case. It's incredibly obvious his words mean to hurt, not help. Not all criticism has to be spoken so harshly and Scorchfur—a cat who has already seen his fair share of misery in ShadowClan, including the rise of Sol—should know better by now. Yep. Honestly, the whataboutisms annoy me sometimes. Tawnypelt has nothing to do with my feelings on Scorchfur. His own words and actions speak for themselves in why I can’t stand him in the series.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Sept 21, 2021 20:24:51 GMT -5
i like him. he's WAY too overhated...like dude, do people forget tawnypelt struck first? he was acting in self defense...because you know what? scorchfur is a family man and he lost a lot. he cares about his family first. how is he a bad guy just because of that? Maybe because it doesn't matter that Tawnypelt struck first? Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, Scorchfur lost alot. So did Tawnypelt. So what? So what if Scorchfur's a family cat? None of it excuses what the other did, but the problem with Scorchfur is that he never learns. Even his own Clanmate called him out on his complaining after Rowanclaw dissolved ShadowClan. Right there on the money! He’s just an argumentative ,complaining A-hole that seems to stir up trouble for absolutely no reason at all sometimes
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 21, 2021 21:02:49 GMT -5
He's so annoying, insufferable and it's like he disagrees for the sake of disagreeing.
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Post by Aqua on Sept 21, 2021 21:30:20 GMT -5
Exactly! Say what you will about Tawnypelt and Squirrelflight or any other cat (even though this isn't about them; just speaking generally here, but talking about someone completely different won't strengthen your argument and there's a reason why whataboutism is considered a logical fallacy), but Scorchfur has never—and I mean never—done anything except complain, unless you count when he suggested taking Twigpaw hostage, a plan Crowfrost shouldn't have even agreed with! He's all talk, no action, and time only time I felt bad for him was when it came to Yarrowleaf. Emotional distress shouldn't give someone the right to act so horribly, especially if this behavior is on a consistent basis. Scorchfur has been called out quite a few times now and hasn't changed a bit. It'd be one thing if he was at least trying to contribute to the conversation without hurting other cats, but this isn't the case. It's incredibly obvious his words mean to hurt, not help. Not all criticism has to be spoken so harshly and Scorchfur—a cat who has already seen his fair share of misery in ShadowClan, including the rise of Sol—should know better by now. Yep. Honestly, the whataboutisms annoy me sometimes. Tawnypelt has nothing to do with my feelings on Scorchfur. His own words and actions speak for themselves in why I can’t stand him in the series. His entire life Scorchfur has been an absolute asshole. There's no excuse for his behavior. Honestly, Snowbird deserves better. He's trash.
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