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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 9:40:12 GMT -5
Also ❅Maplefrost❅ I think I may have Rowanstar, Scorchfur and Violetshine end up basically finding Tigerstar and Dovewing in that Twolegplace just to give that closure of “I left to take care of my mate and kits, I couldn’t tell you, but I have to stay” and Rowanstar finally accepting that. That way Shadowclan can still get the missing Warriors and bring back some of the Twolegplace cats while TigerDove stays in the Twolegplace to raise their kits. Maybe Shadowsight returns to the clans during TBC when he’s given a dream by Starclan? Or heck, we could even replace Shadowsight with a different cat too. I don’t know, but a plot point of this SE would be them finding Tigerheart but him not returning with them, but some of the twolegplace cats do come to join Shadowclan after Tigerheart and Dovewing tell them about clan life. That actually would be very sweet and give really good closure for Rowan and his family tbh. I like the idea of them going on this journey, gives their characters a good chance of bonding, and has purpose for the plot. It's a great idea. As for Shadowsight, I personally think it would better just to have him be a normal kit, and stay with his family, away from the clans. I'm sure there's much more interesting cats that could replace him without the crutch of super powers. Very true! If anything, one of the cats could even be a NeedleTreeRain kit who’s POV is that of a cat outside the clans who wants to help or feels compelled to join the clans and joins Skyclan with Tree’s weird powers. The VioletStrike kit could be the Shadowclan cat who wants to be more than just the deputy’s son/daughter, or who just wants to be the best Medicine Cat they can be. Bristle remains as she is, but is given more plot besides watching Squirrelflight and having to be her narrator all the time. Hmm. I’ll think of TBC POV options as I outline all this 🤔
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Post by Cloudy Sky on Jun 14, 2021 9:45:31 GMT -5
That actually would be very sweet and give really good closure for Rowan and his family tbh. I like the idea of them going on this journey, gives their characters a good chance of bonding, and has purpose for the plot. It's a great idea. As for Shadowsight, I personally think it would better just to have him be a normal kit, and stay with his family, away from the clans. I'm sure there's much more interesting cats that could replace him without the crutch of super powers. Very true! If anything, one of the cats could even be a NeedleTreeRain kit who’s POV is that of a cat outside the clans who wants to help or feels compelled to join the clans and joins Skyclan with Tree’s weird powers. The VioletStrike kit could be the Shadowclan cat who wants to be more than just the deputy’s son/daughter, or who just wants to be the best Medicine Cat they can be. Bristle remains as she is, but is given more plot besides watching Squirrelflight and having to be her narrator all the time. Hmm. I’ll think of TBC POV options as I outline all this 🤔 So Rain is going to live?
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 9:52:52 GMT -5
Very true! If anything, one of the cats could even be a NeedleTreeRain kit who’s POV is that of a cat outside the clans who wants to help or feels compelled to join the clans and joins Skyclan with Tree’s weird powers. The VioletStrike kit could be the Shadowclan cat who wants to be more than just the deputy’s son/daughter, or who just wants to be the best Medicine Cat they can be. Bristle remains as she is, but is given more plot besides watching Squirrelflight and having to be her narrator all the time. Hmm. I’ll think of TBC POV options as I outline all this 🤔 So Rain is going to live? Yup! Needletail and Rain both live and basically run away together as loners after Darktail’s reign is over. Needletail realizes her mistakes without Rain having to die, and still helps the Riverclan cats. Rowanstar and Violetshine will be taken prisoner for a bit with the Riverclan cats since in this AU Violetshine stays with Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart when they’re driven out of camp. I think I’ll have Dawnpelt and Strikestone join them too. Violetshine will persuade Needletail to have a change of heart, and Rowanstar risking his lives to take punishments meant for his former clanmates under Darktail’s reign will restore some faith in him from Shadowclan, who will begin to reject Darktail and weaken the Kin enough for Darktail to then be killed by Onestar, like in canon. At least, that’s the rough idea so far lol
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 11:23:44 GMT -5
So Rain is going to live? Yup! Needletail and Rain both live and basically run away together as loners after Darktail’s reign is over. Needletail realizes her mistakes without Rain having to die, and still helps the Riverclan cats. Rowanstar and Violetshine will be taken prisoner for a bit with the Riverclan cats since in this AU Violetshine stays with Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart when they’re driven out of camp. I think I’ll have Dawnpelt and Strikestone join them too. Violetshine will persuade Needletail to have a change of heart, and Rowanstar risking his lives to take punishments meant for his former clanmates under Darktail’s reign will restore some faith in him from Shadowclan, who will begin to reject Darktail and weaken the Kin enough for Darktail to then be killed by Onestar, like in canon. At least, that’s the rough idea so far lol Hmm honestly I think it would be better for Rowan to kill off Darktail, like a round two type of situation. Because I don't think it was very deserving for Onestar to be the one to canonly ice his son. Especially after he abandoned him in the first place, it always rubbed me the wrong way that he taunted his roots before they started fighting in canon, like...what was the point of that?? I think either Rowanstar or Hawkwing, who have much more personal grudges against Darktail on screen than Onestar, would make more sense. If Rowanstar did it, his clan would definitely support him more, and they'd still keep their independence as ShadowClan over relying on Wind or ThunderClan. But if Hawkwing did it, he can do it to avenge his clanmates that fell to Darktail's treachery, and it can tie in more with Violetshine's character too.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 11:33:42 GMT -5
Yup! Needletail and Rain both live and basically run away together as loners after Darktail’s reign is over. Needletail realizes her mistakes without Rain having to die, and still helps the Riverclan cats. Rowanstar and Violetshine will be taken prisoner for a bit with the Riverclan cats since in this AU Violetshine stays with Rowanstar, Tawnypelt and Tigerheart when they’re driven out of camp. I think I’ll have Dawnpelt and Strikestone join them too. Violetshine will persuade Needletail to have a change of heart, and Rowanstar risking his lives to take punishments meant for his former clanmates under Darktail’s reign will restore some faith in him from Shadowclan, who will begin to reject Darktail and weaken the Kin enough for Darktail to then be killed by Onestar, like in canon. At least, that’s the rough idea so far lol Hmm honestly I think it would be better for Rowan to kill off Darktail, like a round two type of situation. Because I don't think it was very deserving for Onestar to be the one to canonly ice his son. Especially after he abandoned him in the first place, it always rubbed me the wrong way that he taunted his roots before they started fighting in canon, like...what was the point of that?? I think either Rowanstar or Hawkwing, who have much more personal grudges against Darktail on screen than Onestar, would make more sense. If Rowanstar did it, his clan would definitely support him more, and they'd still keep their independence as ShadowClan over relying on Wind or ThunderClan. But if Hawkwing did it, he can do it to avenge his clanmates that fell to Darktail's treachery, and it can tie in more with Violetshine's character too. That is very true! Hmmm. Honestly, I'm considering not even having Onestar be Darktail's father at this point. I honestly would like it way more if Darktail was actually Blackstar's son and did so much damage to Shadowclan as a way to spite and ruin Blackstar's work, seeing as he couldn't kill him himself. Hence leading Rowanstar to be able to land the final blow and be able to swim up from the water even if he loses a life from the fight. Him resurfacing from the water as a symbol that Darktail is dead and that he's still alive would be cool too. Heck, even more symbolic if it's Flametail that helps guide Rowanstar back up to the surface after he and Darktail drown. Oh. I like that. Onestar will still be his awful self about the herbs though, as we do need that conflict for the story, but I'm honestly going to have Darktail be Blackstar's son from a triste when Blackstar was a rouge/loner after Brokenstar's reign.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 11:41:18 GMT -5
Hmm honestly I think it would be better for Rowan to kill off Darktail, like a round two type of situation. Because I don't think it was very deserving for Onestar to be the one to canonly ice his son. Especially after he abandoned him in the first place, it always rubbed me the wrong way that he taunted his roots before they started fighting in canon, like...what was the point of that?? I think either Rowanstar or Hawkwing, who have much more personal grudges against Darktail on screen than Onestar, would make more sense. If Rowanstar did it, his clan would definitely support him more, and they'd still keep their independence as ShadowClan over relying on Wind or ThunderClan. But if Hawkwing did it, he can do it to avenge his clanmates that fell to Darktail's treachery, and it can tie in more with Violetshine's character too. That is very true! Hmmm. Honestly, I'm considering not even having Onestar be Darktail's father at this point. I honestly would like it way more if Darktail was actually Blackstar's son and did so much damage to Shadowclan as a way to spite and ruin Blackstar's work, seeing as he couldn't kill him himself. Hence leading Rowanstar to be able to land the final blow and be able to swim up from the water even if he loses a life from the fight. Him resurfacing from the water as a symbol that Darktail is dead and that he's still alive would be cool too. Heck, even more symbolic if it's Flametail that helps guide Rowanstar back up to the surface after he and Darktail drown. Oh. I like that. Onestar will still be his awful self about the herbs though, as we do need that conflict for the story, but I'm honestly going to have Darktail be Blackstar's son from a triste when Blackstar was a rouge/loner after Brokenstar's reign. Hmm, but I can't really see Blackstar of all people abandoning his son because of kittypet blood, especially because of how much he respected cats like Boulder and Russetfur. Maybe it can be like, Blackstar promising to come back for them, but because the forest is destroyed, he doesn't. So after waiting so long, Smoke thinks that he abandoned them, and raises her kit with hatred, so later Darktail goes on a journey to find his father, wanting revenge, and to ruin his legacy, like you said. Would also make Darktail a little less old, because they can meet while he's a rogue, and then she's pregnant in between TPB and TNP. So he could roughly be slightly younger than Squirrel and Leaf maybe? Also I loveeee the idea of Flametail's spirit helping his father and leading him back to the surface, that would be amazing! As for Onestar, yeah the herb thing is still a good conflicting scenario, and definitely gives Harestar some good screentime for sure. I just hope your Harestar chooses a better deputy ahaha! I wonder how Onestar should be iced instead? Maybe he dies in a battle against Darktail and his group half way through the series, that way it builds up to the final battle later on in AVoS, so it's less boring. I always did find it weird that Darktail died so soon. Like there was no reason for the Erins not to be able to intricate both the return of SkyClan and Darktail's reign at the same time into the series. It made the later half fall flat too hard, ya know?
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 12:00:55 GMT -5
That is very true! Hmmm. Honestly, I'm considering not even having Onestar be Darktail's father at this point. I honestly would like it way more if Darktail was actually Blackstar's son and did so much damage to Shadowclan as a way to spite and ruin Blackstar's work, seeing as he couldn't kill him himself. Hence leading Rowanstar to be able to land the final blow and be able to swim up from the water even if he loses a life from the fight. Him resurfacing from the water as a symbol that Darktail is dead and that he's still alive would be cool too. Heck, even more symbolic if it's Flametail that helps guide Rowanstar back up to the surface after he and Darktail drown. Oh. I like that. Onestar will still be his awful self about the herbs though, as we do need that conflict for the story, but I'm honestly going to have Darktail be Blackstar's son from a triste when Blackstar was a rouge/loner after Brokenstar's reign. Hmm, but I can't really see Blackstar of all people abandoning his son because of kittypet blood, especially because of how much he respected cats like Boulder and Russetfur. Maybe it can be like, Blackstar promising to come back for them, but because the forest is destroyed, he doesn't. So after waiting so long, Smoke thinks that he abandoned them, and raises her kit with hatred, so later Darktail goes on a journey to find his father, wanting revenge, and to ruin his legacy, like you said. Also I loveeee the idea of Flametail's spirit helping his father and leading him back to the surface, that would be amazing! As for Onestar, yeah the herb thing is still a good conflicting scenario, and definitely gives Harestar some good screentime for sure. I just hope your Harestar chooses a better deputy ahaha! I wonder how Onestar should be iced instead? Maybe he dies in a battle against Darktail and his group half way through the series, that way it builds up to the final battle later on in AVoS, so it's less boring. I always did find it weird that Darktail died so soon. Like there was no reason for the Erins not to be able to intricate both the return of SkyClan and Darktail's reign at the same time into the series. It made the later half fall flat too hard, ya know? I was probably going to have it be that Blackstar didn't know that the mate he took in twolegplace for a more one night stand kind of deal was expecting kits. That would be a good idea too, that before Smoke could tell Blackstar that she had kits, the forest is destroyed and Blackstar had to choose leading Shadowclan on the Great Journey over trying to go back and find Smoke or whatever random rouge he hooked up with. This leads to her thinking he abandoned them, as you say, and it fuels her hatred for the clans. Darktail growing absolutely violent and hateful with rage realizing his time preparing for the moment where he finds Blackstar was wasted since he's already dead. All he can do now is try and destroy the clan he left him and Smoke for. Harestar's picking either Sedgewhisker or Emberfoot, I still stand by the fact that Crowfeather doesn't really deserve deputyship even when he's repaired his relationships and is a good Warrior in his SE. He can be a great Warrior without swiping up the deputy spot in another show of character bias and favoritism *CoughCoughTigerheartCoughCough* I know I want Sleekwhisker to be more of a threat the last 3 books if Darktail dies too early. If not, I could also always have it so Darktail and his rouges are chased out of Shadowclan with Skyclan's help, and Darktail just comes back later and stronger to land a final battle with the clans with alot more support, Bloodclan style. That's when he can be drowned in the lake. Or, alternatively, if Darktail does die half-way through, make Sleekwhisker the villain, have her build the Kin back up, and maybe actually even have the Antagonist!Sparkpelt route alot of us wanted by having her team up with Sleekwhisker and other cats who did not support Skyclan to drive them out of the lake. There are so many things they could have done for the last half of AVOS, I wanna think about different options if you have any ideas! I can easily write content for any of these options, this is fun! And yes, I'd be weak af for Flametail guiding Rowanstar back up from the water and giving him motivation to keep fighting and to keep leading Shadowclan. That he'll see him again one day.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 12:10:53 GMT -5
Hmm, but I can't really see Blackstar of all people abandoning his son because of kittypet blood, especially because of how much he respected cats like Boulder and Russetfur. Maybe it can be like, Blackstar promising to come back for them, but because the forest is destroyed, he doesn't. So after waiting so long, Smoke thinks that he abandoned them, and raises her kit with hatred, so later Darktail goes on a journey to find his father, wanting revenge, and to ruin his legacy, like you said.
Also I loveeee the idea of Flametail's spirit helping his father and leading him back to the surface, that would be amazing!
As for Onestar, yeah the herb thing is still a good conflicting scenario, and definitely gives Harestar some good screentime for sure. I just hope your Harestar chooses a better deputy ahaha! I wonder how Onestar should be iced instead? Maybe he dies in a battle against Darktail and his group half way through the series, that way it builds up to the final battle later on in AVoS, so it's less boring. I always did find it weird that Darktail died so soon. Like there was no reason for the Erins not to be able to intricate both the return of SkyClan and Darktail's reign at the same time into the series. It made the later half fall flat too hard, ya know? I was probably going to have it be that Blackstar didn't know that the mate he took in twolegplace for a more one night stand kind of deal was expecting kits. That would be a good idea too, that before Smoke could tell Blackstar that she had kits, the forest is destroyed and Blackstar had to choose leading Shadowclan on the Great Journey over trying to go back and find Smoke or whatever random rouge he hooked up with. This leads to her thinking he abandoned them, as you say, and it fuels her hatred for the clans. Darktail growing absolutely violent and hateful with rage realizing his time preparing for the moment where he finds Blackstar was wasted since he's already dead. All he can do now is try and destroy the clan he left him and Smoke for. Harestar's picking either Sedgewhisker or Emberfoot, I still stand by the fact that Crowfeather doesn't really deserve deputyship even when he's repaired his relationships and is a good Warrior in his SE. He can be a great Warrior without swiping up the deputy spot in another show of character bias and favoritism *CoughCoughTigerheartCoughCough* I know I want Sleekwhisker to be more of a threat the last 3 books if Darktail dies too early. If not, I could also always have it so Darktail and his rouges are chased out of Shadowclan with Skyclan's help, and Darktail just comes back later and stronger to land a final battle with the clans with alot more support, Bloodclan style. That's when he can be drowned in the lake. Or, alternatively, if Darktail does die half-way through, make Sleekwhisker the villain, have her build the Kin back up, and maybe actually even have the Antagonist!Sparkpelt route alot of us wanted by having her team up with Sleekwhisker and other cats who did not support Skyclan to drive them out of the lake. There are so many things they could have done for the last half of AVOS, I wanna think about different options if you have any ideas! I can easily write content for any of these options, this is fun! And yes, I'd be weak af for Flametail guiding Rowanstar back up from the water and giving him motivation to keep fighting and to keep leading Shadowclan. That he'll see him again one day. If you do do the scenario where Darktail dies half way, and Sleekwhisker takes over as the main villain for the rest of the arc, what's your opinion on Sleekwhisker possibly going full on Zira? And her having Darktail's kits? For her she'd think it's because Darktail loved her, but for Darktail it would be more of a Tigerstar situation, where he just wanted to secure his bloodline? I know some people theroized this a few times before, but it would be interesting if she does die and the kits are parentless. And now left to the clans as their responsibility? Maybe someone can adopt them and raise them properly, it can be a parallel to how Darktail was raised, and also to Violet and Twig.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 12:16:16 GMT -5
I was probably going to have it be that Blackstar didn't know that the mate he took in twolegplace for a more one night stand kind of deal was expecting kits. That would be a good idea too, that before Smoke could tell Blackstar that she had kits, the forest is destroyed and Blackstar had to choose leading Shadowclan on the Great Journey over trying to go back and find Smoke or whatever random rouge he hooked up with. This leads to her thinking he abandoned them, as you say, and it fuels her hatred for the clans. Darktail growing absolutely violent and hateful with rage realizing his time preparing for the moment where he finds Blackstar was wasted since he's already dead. All he can do now is try and destroy the clan he left him and Smoke for. Harestar's picking either Sedgewhisker or Emberfoot, I still stand by the fact that Crowfeather doesn't really deserve deputyship even when he's repaired his relationships and is a good Warrior in his SE. He can be a great Warrior without swiping up the deputy spot in another show of character bias and favoritism *CoughCoughTigerheartCoughCough* I know I want Sleekwhisker to be more of a threat the last 3 books if Darktail dies too early. If not, I could also always have it so Darktail and his rouges are chased out of Shadowclan with Skyclan's help, and Darktail just comes back later and stronger to land a final battle with the clans with alot more support, Bloodclan style. That's when he can be drowned in the lake. Or, alternatively, if Darktail does die half-way through, make Sleekwhisker the villain, have her build the Kin back up, and maybe actually even have the Antagonist!Sparkpelt route alot of us wanted by having her team up with Sleekwhisker and other cats who did not support Skyclan to drive them out of the lake. There are so many things they could have done for the last half of AVOS, I wanna think about different options if you have any ideas! I can easily write content for any of these options, this is fun! And yes, I'd be weak af for Flametail guiding Rowanstar back up from the water and giving him motivation to keep fighting and to keep leading Shadowclan. That he'll see him again one day. If you do do the scenario where Darktail dies half way, and Sleekwhisker takes over as the main villain for the rest of the arc, what's your opinion on Sleekwhisker possibly going full on Zira? And her having Darktail's kits? For her she'd think it's because Darktail loved her, but for Darktail it would be more of a Tigerstar situation, where he just wanted to secure his bloodline? I know some people theroized this a few times before, but it would be interesting if she does die and the kits are parentless. And now left to the clans as their responsibility? Maybe someone can adopt them and raise them properly, it can be a parallel to how Darktail was raised, and also to Violet and Twig. Ooooh you know, funny enough, I was thinking about that actually. The implications show what a twisted and awful cat Darktail was, and how twisted and awful Sleekwhisker became as well would be interesting. She could have the kits right around Darkest Night. Heck, she could have one or two and even Tawnypelt could care for them beside her own kits, or VioletStrike could raise them, so Strikestone could make sure they never are judged for their origins unfairly. Since they’re all kin anyway, I imagine they’d want to care for them, Dawnpelt included.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 12:19:23 GMT -5
I’ll have to see what I can work into this timeline or change the timeline itself, I have to reread all the timeskips in AVOS before I can put stuff in perfect order RIP
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 12:27:56 GMT -5
Oooh now we get to think of names for the poor kits. Hm. Darkkit would be really cliche and tasteless with the circumstances, but knowing Sleekwhisker she would name one that. Blugh. Maybe some new and unique names! Like Hornetkit, Rustlekit, Rookkit, Peachkit, etc.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 12:57:54 GMT -5
Oooh now we get to think of names for the poor kits. Hm. Darkkit would be really cliche and tasteless with the circumstances, but knowing Sleekwhisker she would name one that. Blugh. Maybe some new and unique names! Like Hornetkit, Rustlekit, Rookkit, Peachkit, etc. Oh my goodness, Hornetkit and Peachkit would be so cute! And maybe one is a tom and one is a she-cat? Honestly need more sister/brother kit litters for main characters and not just sister/sister and brother/brother.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 13:12:23 GMT -5
Oooh now we get to think of names for the poor kits. Hm. Darkkit would be really cliche and tasteless with the circumstances, but knowing Sleekwhisker she would name one that. Blugh. Maybe some new and unique names! Like Hornetkit, Rustlekit, Rookkit, Peachkit, etc. Oh my goodness, Hornetkit and Peachkit would be so cute! And maybe one is a tom and one is a she-cat? Honestly need more sister/brother kit litters for main characters and not just sister/sister and brother/brother. Yup! They’ll be brother and sister, and Talonkit and Goldenkit are also a brother and sister litter as well!
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 13:22:48 GMT -5
Now I want to do picrews of Talonkit, Goldenkit, Hornetkit and Peachkit for my own sake. Also, should I keep Rootkit and Needlekit as Shadowclan cats as Violetstrike kits, or have them be kits of NeedleRainTree as Rootkit and another kit name? Choices choices...hmm
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 18:54:03 GMT -5
Lookie, I did lil Picrews for Goldenkit (Tortie with golden/amber eyes) and Talonkit (Ginger tabby with green eyes). I also did some for Peachkit and Hornetkit too lol. I love picrews.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 19:07:15 GMT -5
Now I want to do picrews of Talonkit, Goldenkit, Hornetkit and Peachkit for my own sake. Also, should I keep Rootkit and Needlekit as Shadowclan cats as Violetstrike kits, or have them be kits of NeedleRainTree as Rootkit and another kit name? Choices choices...hmm I think it would be nice to have them be NeedleRainTree's kits, so that way VioletStrike can focus on Hornet and Peach.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 19:29:26 GMT -5
Now I want to do picrews of Talonkit, Goldenkit, Hornetkit and Peachkit for my own sake. Also, should I keep Rootkit and Needlekit as Shadowclan cats as Violetstrike kits, or have them be kits of NeedleRainTree as Rootkit and another kit name? Choices choices...hmm I think it would be nice to have them be NeedleRainTree's kits, so that way VioletStrike can focus on Hornet and Peach. Perfect! That was what I was thinking. That way also Violetshine can step into her deputyship without having her first kits until later on when she's well into her role or she's leader by then. She'll probably be leader by the end of TBC, if I ever continue on to make TBC content. I'd do it to write for Talon, Golden, Peach and Hornet tbh lol. Speaking of Hornetkit and Peachkit! Here they are! Hornet on top, Peach on bottom.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 19:35:52 GMT -5
I love these choices! Designing cats is really fun tbh.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 19:40:33 GMT -5
Super duper fun. I love doing it.
Also! I've thought about it, and I know how Rowanstar, Scorchfur and Violetpaw will know where to go/how to find the city cats. They'll run into Tree, who managed to drag his loner bf and gf back to the clan border because he'll want to help the ghosts of the dead Shadowclan cats get rest by them getting Shadowclan whole again. So there will be a NeedleRainTree cameo with cool but civil interactions between everyone so they can get the directions they need to help find the missing Warriors and where Tigerheart ran to. That way Tree's gift can be explored without him having to join any clan or leave his happy loner life with his mates. It can allow a needed conversation between Violet and Needle as well, and that Violet wishes her well no matter how things were in the past.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 19:45:08 GMT -5
Super duper fun. I love doing it. Also! I've thought about it, and I know how Rowanstar, Scorchfur and Violetpaw will know where to go/how to find the city cats. They'll run into Tree, who managed to drag his loner bf and gf back to the clan border because he'll want to help the ghosts of the dead Shadowclan cats get rest by them getting Shadowclan whole again. So there will be a NeedleRainTree cameo with cool but civil interactions between everyone so they can get the directions they need to help find the missing Warriors and where Tigerheart ran to. That way Tree's gift can be explored without him having to join any clan or leave his happy loner life with his mates. It can allow a needed conversation between Violet and Needle as well, and that Violet wishes her well no matter how things were in the past. You're gonna make me tear up, this is too good. ; v ; The NeedleTreeRain dynamic idea is so good, the Erins are cowards for chickening out. Also Needle and Violet having a moment makes me cry. ; v; I do wonder how you'll do the scene where Darktail tries to drown her, since she lives in this AU, will she still try to protect Violetshine, but instead of dying she escapes as well? Or will someone save her? I kinda like the idea of Rain stepping in to help her escape, and he betrays Darktail for Needletail, but maybe Needle has some pretty nasty marks as a reminder of her close brush with death? Or will this be when Rowanstar finally takes him down, saving Needletail in the process, during the half-way mark of the rewrite?
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 20:02:46 GMT -5
I was thinking of having Rain step in to protect her for sure. Since Rowanstar and Violetshine will be with the Riverclan prisoners at this point, I was even considering having Needletail be the cat that sneaks information to the other clans, rather than her being imprisoned, seeing as Violetpaw wouldn't be able to put the poppy seeds in Darktail's prey or be the spy herself. This way Needletail gets more moments proving she's had that change of heart about Darktail. It's when she gets caught sharing the secrets and sneaking herbs back to Alderheart from the camp that she's nearly drowned. Darktail could have Violetpaw and Rowanstar be dragged out to be drowned as well, and that's when boom, the other clans launch an attack at the lake. Why? Because Needletail made it clear that Darktail's MO was taking cats to the lake, and she outed herself on purpose when the time came to get Darktail and his rouges to take them to the lake, where he could then get ambushed. Darktail tries to drown Needletail before he is overwhelmed by numbers, and that can be when Rowanstar bowls into him and they fight and drown in the lake.
Rain and Violetpaw pull Needletail up before she can drown, and she lives. The battle ends when Rowanstar resurfaces and Darktail does not. I think that could be a good way to finish off Darktail and build up Sleekwhisker as a better female antagonist too.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 14, 2021 20:13:12 GMT -5
I was thinking of having Rain step in to protect her for sure. Since Rowanstar and Violetshine will be with the Riverclan prisoners at this point, I was even considering having Needletail be the cat that sneaks information to the other clans, rather than her being imprisoned, seeing as Violetpaw wouldn't be able to put the poppy seeds in Darktail's prey or be the spy herself. This way Needletail gets more moments proving she's had that change of heart about Darktail. It's when she gets caught sharing the secrets and sneaking herbs back to Alderheart from the camp that she's nearly drowned. Darktail could have Violetpaw and Rowanstar be dragged out to be drowned as well, and that's when boom, the other clans launch an attack at the lake. Why? Because Needletail made it clear that Darktail's MO was taking cats to the lake, and she outed herself on purpose when the time came to get Darktail and his rouges to take them to the lake, where he could then get ambushed. Darktail tries to drown Needletail before he is overwhelmed by numbers, and that can be when Rowanstar bowls into him and they fight and drown in the lake. Rain and Violetpaw pull Needletail up before she can drown, and she lives. The battle ends when Rowanstar resurfaces and Darktail does not. I think that could be a good way to finish off Darktail and build up Sleekwhisker as a better female antagonist too. Oh for sure! That's perfect! Honestly this makes me more excited for your rewrite. I honestly can't wait to see how Strikestone reacts to his sister's villainy and just how much she's changed for the worse. I can also see him being protective of Violet too, since Sleekwhisker always had a personal vendetta against Violet out of jealousy.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 20:13:13 GMT -5
The fun part about this AU is that I can also make art for it and make memes too. The get along shirt needs to be done so help me god.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 20:15:44 GMT -5
I was thinking of having Rain step in to protect her for sure. Since Rowanstar and Violetshine will be with the Riverclan prisoners at this point, I was even considering having Needletail be the cat that sneaks information to the other clans, rather than her being imprisoned, seeing as Violetpaw wouldn't be able to put the poppy seeds in Darktail's prey or be the spy herself. This way Needletail gets more moments proving she's had that change of heart about Darktail. It's when she gets caught sharing the secrets and sneaking herbs back to Alderheart from the camp that she's nearly drowned. Darktail could have Violetpaw and Rowanstar be dragged out to be drowned as well, and that's when boom, the other clans launch an attack at the lake. Why? Because Needletail made it clear that Darktail's MO was taking cats to the lake, and she outed herself on purpose when the time came to get Darktail and his rouges to take them to the lake, where he could then get ambushed. Darktail tries to drown Needletail before he is overwhelmed by numbers, and that can be when Rowanstar bowls into him and they fight and drown in the lake. Rain and Violetpaw pull Needletail up before she can drown, and she lives. The battle ends when Rowanstar resurfaces and Darktail does not. I think that could be a good way to finish off Darktail and build up Sleekwhisker as a better female antagonist too. Oh for sure! That's perfect! Honestly this makes me more excited for your rewrite. I honestly can't wait to see how Strikestone reacts to his sister's villainy and just how much she's changed for the worse. I'm excited for that part too! Gives me a chance to flesh out Strikestone as the genuine good child of the litter he was and also for him to have a heavy internal conflict that Violetpaw/shine can support him through and learn more about him through. I'm thinking he might be the one to land the final blow on his sister, but I'm still working on Sleekwhisker's death. It has to be fitting of her awful crimes, so I gotta be really thorough on the satisfaction aspect of it. Oh! I can also maybe even have Juniperclaw live and have to choose between supporting Sleekwhisker or supporting Strikestone.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 14, 2021 21:44:10 GMT -5
Why does all the good stuff happen while I'm asleepI think SkyClan should still have that journey to find their lost Clanmates. I don't know if you're doing a SkyClan POV or not but if you are, it would be really nice if they were on the journey, and while the group is at the gorge they can meet up with the former SkyClan members who are now kittypets (Hutch, Snookthorn, Harveymoon and Ebonyclaw I think) as kind of a final reunion scene. And also you could have someone mention what happened to Shrewtooth, Rockshade, Creekfeather and Egg just so they haven't disappeared into thin air. If i ever do end up doing a Squirrelflight's Hope rewrite, this is what it'll be about for sure
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 15, 2021 2:20:24 GMT -5
Curious about what you'll do with Alderheart? Cause honestly I thought his character would be happier as a kittypet with Velvet. TC had two fully trained medicine cats when he was forced into a meddie destiny, and with Velvet he seemed much happier. His training as a warrior and meddie has always messed with his anxiety and performance, so honestly the carefree life of a kittypet seemed to suit him more. Heck, if he did choose to leave, you could even have it so Twig replaces him as an apprentice maybe? Or maybe a different choice later on that's not Fire/Tiger kin etc.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 15, 2021 6:49:16 GMT -5
Curious about what you'll do with Alderheart? Cause honestly I thought his character would be happier as a kittypet with Velvet. TC had two fully trained medicine cats when he was forced into a meddie destiny, and with Velvet he seemed much happier. His training as a warrior and meddie has always messed with his anxiety and performance, so honestly the carefree life of a kittypet seemed to suit him more. Heck, if he did choose to leave, you could even have it so Twig replaces him as an apprentice maybe? Or maybe a different choice later on that's not Fire/Tiger kin etc. I gotta keep Alderheart as he is, at least since Twigbranch will be staying in Skyclan for this rewrite. I was going to give him more relevance as the one Needletail gives information to about the Kin when she starts to doubt Darktail’s leadership. I don’t plan on writing the POVs of Alder and Twig at the moment, but I could always consider doing something with him. If anything, I wouldn’t mind having Alderheart become medicine cat of Skyclan and go with Twigbranch. As for AlderVelvet, I’d have to think about it only because I didn’t really pay much mind to either of them in general lol.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 15, 2021 6:51:55 GMT -5
If Alderheart becomes Skyclan’s Medicine cat, I can always have another cat be Jayfeather’s apprentice after Leafpool dies too. Not sure who yet, but that’s more TBC stuff.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 15, 2021 8:34:37 GMT -5
Hmmm. Actually, now that I think about it...Alderheart stepping down and leaving with Velvet after AVOS wouldn’t be all that bad an idea. Hm. I’ll work something out.
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