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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 19:30:06 GMT -5
And this time, please be respectful. Seriously. These are fictional cat book characters. No sarcastic or aggressive comments. I will not tolerate it. If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all.
What do you think about her? I like her enough. She's not my favorite, but I understand why people like Squirrelflight so much. She stands up for herself, she isn't afraid to speak her words, she cares about her Clan, she sacrificed so much for Leafpool's sake even though she didn't want to in the first place, and she makes a great deputy. I can see why people like her so much, but I also understand why people don't like her as well. For me, I like her enough to respect Squirrelflight. Don't love her, she's starting to get boring now, but she's fine.
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Post by Fernshiine on Oct 15, 2020 19:39:43 GMT -5
I liked her a lot better in The New Prophecy and Power Of Three. After those arcs, however, I feel like her personality just starts slowly dwindling away into something it wasn't. She got a small amount of her old spark back in Squirrelflight's Hope but a whole lot of what she does after The New Prophecy even just seems not Squirrelflight-like in my opinion.
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Post by silentbreeze on Oct 15, 2020 19:47:24 GMT -5
She's probably my fav character in the series. Interestingly enough Moonkitti just came out with an analysis video on Squirrelflight being an abuse victim to Bramblestar and I can't say she was wrong about that. Overall I like her fiesty personality, and her ability to endure hard situations thrown at her. I hope she ends up going out like a badass if they kill her in TBC.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Oct 15, 2020 19:51:52 GMT -5
I like her and I like Moonkitti's most recent analysis of her.
I don't think Squirrel was wrong for helping Leafpool and think she's a good sister, mom, and deputy who probably gets more flack than she deserves (I believe this of both sisters)
I do see why people find her romance with Bramble tiring, however, and think she would have been more suited to a different, more gentle/calm cat (in the same way Ivypool works well with Fernsong)
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Post by highprince on Oct 15, 2020 20:02:02 GMT -5
I’m definitely not her biggest fan lmao. I think she’s stayed well past her welcome and her relevance in TBC is forcing the protagonists out of a personality and development of their own. Bristlefrost now essentially exists to tell us what Squirrelflight is doing. I’m tired of her relevance in every arc and I don’t care for her love drama.
Also, Squirrelflight judging Brambleclaw for wanting to know his brother from a different clan, and then proceeding to lie to him about his children for over a year because she wanted to protect her sister was plain old shitty. I’m not backing down on that - it’s what it is. I don’t care what StarClan or Leafpool told her. Brambleclaw is her mate and the supposed father of her children at the time, and she should trust him enough to let him know that they aren’t his. Brambleclaw clearly respects both Leafpool and Crowfeather and understands that blood isn’t everything. Even if Squirrelflight wanted to preserve his reputation, she has no business deciding that for him. He’s an adult, she should’ve told him the truth and let him make his own choices instead of stringing him along for over a year - presumably with the intention of never telling him at all.
And it was selfish of her to keep pestering him about kits. Because guess what? If Bramblestar says no to kits, he says no to kits. It’s amazing and empowering when Twigbranch tells Finleap off, but apparently Bramblestar was being dismissive of her when children is not something you can compromise on. He’s already raised 5 kids, I don’t blame the guy for not wanting another litter when he has a clan to lead.
Tldr; Squirrelflight and Bramblestar were both toxic to each other, but she was frankly more toxic prior to SqH, showing repeatedly that she didn’t trust him despite being his mate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 20:03:28 GMT -5
It's obvious from the amount of arguments that have been going on, how people feel about Squirrelflight.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 15, 2020 20:28:25 GMT -5
I don't really like her. I found her annoying in her appearances and her character never really appealed to me. I hated her SE, and what seemed like every chapter, she and Bramblestar had an argument over the most menial of things. I had a lot more issues with the way Squirrelflight was acting in SQH than with Bramblestar. I know people slam on Bramblestar for being abusive and such, but Squirrelflight isn't exempt from being toxic to him either. The whole relationship is a mess.
That said though, I am liking her far more in TBC. Before this arc I would have said I preferred Leafpool, but that's changed. I wouldn't necessarily say I like her, but she's definitely ranked a bit higher.
tl;dr: Not a huge fan of her, but I can see why others like her.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 15, 2020 20:28:46 GMT -5
Pretty passionate about her myself, and is my favorite of the FireSand litter. I want her to have happiness in life and a slimmer of peace god damnnit.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Oct 15, 2020 20:31:10 GMT -5
Pretty passionate about her myself, and is my favorite of the FireSand litter. I want her to have happiness in life and a slimmer of peace god damnnit. The writers are going to make her and Tawnypelt suffer for eternity
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 15, 2020 20:33:07 GMT -5
I personally really loved her as an apprentice, and during the POT arc, but I think SqH is what made me go from loving her to disliking her. Her incredibly selfish and bratty behavior was cringe-worthy in that SE, and made me realize she really hasn't changed much at all in the maturity department. Personally, I also believe she was worse than Bramblestar in that SE as well, and I don't even like him. And now she's starting to clog the plot with her relevancy, which is kinda disappointing even though I don't mind Ashfur's return.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 20:47:43 GMT -5
I don't think she's a bad cat, but I personally don't like her personality. When she's first introduced, she is said to be completely disrespectful towards Dustpelt, like, always running off when it's time for her to train. She then continues to act entitled and bratty, by basically blackmailing Bramblestar into letting her come on a journey, which she wasn't invited to. Honestly, everyone in this situation were idiots, Bramblestar should have straight up told Firestar what was up, so their clanmates wouldn't worry about them, or Leafpool could have told him, but whatever. Anyway, I understand she was young during all of this, but Maplefrost is right in the fact that she hasn't changed much. She's still a very stubborn my way or the high way kind of cat, even if she is trying to do the right thing, she is still going about it to get these things. Honestly, I'm sick of her and Bramblestar's constant fighting, it's ALWAYS the same. Squirrelflight should have gone to the background after her arc was finished, and stayed there.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 15, 2020 20:50:06 GMT -5
Pretty passionate about her myself, and is my favorite of the FireSand litter. I want her to have happiness in life and a slimmer of peace god damnnit. The writers are going to make her and Tawnypelt suffer for eternity What's sad about this is I can't even defend against that claim. At this point you're pretty much 100% right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 20:59:09 GMT -5
Once again people thinking only females suffer in this series...why are you making it a contest by saying only Squirrelflight suffer "for eternity"? Stop making her a victim when her life isn't nearly as bad as cat's like Birchfall and Harelight...but because they're toms and background, no one will care right?
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Oct 15, 2020 21:00:49 GMT -5
Once again people thinking only females suffer in this series...why are you making it a contest by saying only Squirrelflight suffer "for eternity"? Stop making her a victim when her life isn't nearly as bad as cat's like Birchfall and Harelight...but because they're toms and background, no one will care right? Cricket. This thread is for talking about Squirrelflight, that is why we're talking about her. This isn't a tom vs she-cat issue.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 15, 2020 21:02:46 GMT -5
Once again people thinking only females suffer in this series...why are you making it a contest by saying only Squirrelflight suffer "for eternity"? Stop making her a victim when her life isn't nearly as bad as cat's like Birchfall and Harelight...but because they're toms and background, no one will care right? ... Nobody is even remotely saying that. Don't make this a battle of the sexes thing. :/ (Plus it's super duper rude to use others having "worst" things happen to them to minimize someone else's troubles. You can dislike/hate Squirrelflight all you like, but this is a very bad mindset to stick to. You've done this in your rant thread on the character to bash the fandom and it was a bad post.)
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 15, 2020 21:06:47 GMT -5
I love her!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 21:14:39 GMT -5
We really doing the suffering competition thing again?
I don't get why people do this not just for Warriors but in a lot of fandoms. Imagine suggesting someone who lost a sibling's feelings are invalid because you know someone who lost two siblings or so on
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Post by Sand on Oct 15, 2020 21:23:21 GMT -5
Once again people thinking only females suffer in this series...why are you making it a contest by saying only Squirrelflight suffer "for eternity"? Stop making her a victim when her life isn't nearly as bad as cat's like Birchfall and Harelight...but because they're toms and background, no one will care right? I'm going to ask kindly that you do not take this post of yours any further. In the meantime, please review our Forum Rules and Social Guidelines. Thanks.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 15, 2020 21:25:22 GMT -5
SandOff-topic I'm sorry, but I wanna say that fake candy in your sig is taunting me, and if that's the point it's doing a good job in confusing me. :v
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Post by Woofzie on Oct 15, 2020 21:27:57 GMT -5
Sand Off-topic I'm sorry, but I wanna say that fake candy in your sig is taunting me, and if that's the point it's doing a good job in confusing me. :v Off topic too, but I couldn't resist saying that this is my fifth time in a row trying to click on it and reloading the page, thinking it's a bug.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Oct 15, 2020 21:28:02 GMT -5
We really don't need the suffering fight again. Seriously.
As for the other thread, I was only disagreeing. If it came off rude, then I apologize. I'm sick of the hate at this point.
Squirrelflight is my second favorite character. I just wish I saw more happy moments with her and Bramblestar instead of fighting. She's flawed, but sometimes means well.
She's not really that bad.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Oct 15, 2020 21:29:11 GMT -5
Sand Off-topic I'm sorry, but I wanna say that fake candy in your sig is taunting me, and if that's the point it's doing a good job in confusing me. :v Off topic too, but I couldn't resist saying that this is my fifth time in a row trying to click on it and reloading the page, thinking it's a bug. I clicked on it once, too. oops.
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Post by Sand on Oct 15, 2020 21:48:28 GMT -5
Off topic too, but I couldn't resist saying that this is my fifth time in a row trying to click on it and reloading the page, thinking it's a bug. I clicked on it once, too. oops. My plan is working.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 22:23:29 GMT -5
I made this topic to avoid Squirrelflight wars. Let's keep it at that. Thanks.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Oct 16, 2020 1:05:16 GMT -5
I like her and Leafpool! They're each other's best friend, their most loyal companion. Their sister relationship reminds me of mine with my sister! I'd tell a lie for her any day, no matter what the consequences. Her position in the BrambleSquirrel and the Three drama is understandable. I'd do anything for my sister, even if it meant people would hate me. We're like two peas in a pod. Her character has certainly been watered down from what it was in TNP, but I feel this is because she's matured greatly. I like Moonkitti's video on her relationship with Bramble. I've always thought they were better off as friends because they seemed to function better that way.
Squirrelflight is unquestionably one of the most talked-about characters on the fandom, if not the most. Opinions on her are divided, and it's okay to have differing views. I just hope everyone here can get along and respect everyone else's opinions without arguing. I like to avoid drama.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 2:02:12 GMT -5
Best Cat Ever, can't wait to read from her POV in Darkness Within again!
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Post by mymerlincat on Oct 16, 2020 2:45:23 GMT -5
I can't stand her and she honestly gets worse for me every time I read about her. Not only can I not stand her personality but she's ruined the development of so many characters just by the amount of time that's wasted each arc by making her a major character. There's nothing I want more out of this series than for her to bite the dust.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Oct 16, 2020 9:52:53 GMT -5
I love her so much, she's my first favorite character! Her character developement is amazing, her story is appealing, her loyalty to her sister amazes me, her sharp tounge made me fall in love with her, and her strong personality reminds me of myself in a lot of ways.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Oct 16, 2020 10:22:14 GMT -5
I don't think she's a bad cat, but I personally don't like her personality. When she's first introduced, she is said to be completely disrespectful towards Dustpelt, like, always running off when it's time for her to train. She then continues to act entitled and bratty, by basically blackmailing Bramblestar into letting her come on a journey, which she wasn't invited to. Honestly, everyone in this situation were idiots, Bramblestar should have straight up told Firestar what was up, so their clanmates wouldn't worry about them, or Leafpool could have told him, but whatever. Anyway, I understand she was young during all of this, but Maplefrost is right in the fact that she hasn't changed much. She's still a very stubborn my way or the high way kind of cat, even if she is trying to do the right thing, she is still going about it to get these things. Honestly, I'm sick of her and Bramblestar's constant fighting, it's ALWAYS the same. Squirrelflight should have gone to the background after her arc was finished, and stayed there. Yeah, despite her being my first favorite character, Bramblestar and Squirrelflight's fighting is just getting tiring and so frustrating to read. Can't they just give them some peace?
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