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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 10:29:28 GMT -5
 What are your thoughts on Clear Sky and his redemption? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:02:12 GMT -5
bad. moth flights vision ruined it, even if it was written before his redemption. since it was placed after dotc it makes it look like he was just acting nice as pr and went back to being an asshole first chance he got
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:12:35 GMT -5
bad. moth flights vision ruined it, even if it was written before his redemption. since it was placed after dotc it makes it look like he was just acting nice as pr and went back to being an asshole first chance he got Was he that bad in Moth Flight's Vision? I thought he was just pissed off because of the accusations from Wind Runner, because of Willow Tail starting trouble. I don't remember, but I don't think he killed anyone this time, so that's an improvement I guess lol. Is that why in book 1 or 2, Moth Flight had 3 brothers, and then she suddenly had 2 brothers and a sister? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:26:20 GMT -5
bad. moth flights vision ruined it, even if it was written before his redemption. since it was placed after dotc it makes it look like he was just acting nice as pr and went back to being an asshole first chance he got Was he that bad in Moth Flight's Vision? I thought he was just pissed off because of the accusations from Wind Runner, because of Willow Tail starting trouble. I don't remember, but I don't think he killed anyone this time, so that's an improvement I guess lol. Is that why in book 1 or 2, Moth Flight had 3 brothers, and then she suddenly had 2 brothers and a sister? he wouldnt let micah and moth flight get smth they needed from his territory (honey, i think? either way it was a serious situation) and he literally encouraged one of his warriors to chase micah up a tree, which resulted in a branch snapping, causing micah to fall and be crushed to death. he was just his usual territorial asshole self |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:29:13 GMT -5
Was he that bad in Moth Flight's Vision? I thought he was just pissed off because of the accusations from Wind Runner, because of Willow Tail starting trouble. I don't remember, but I don't think he killed anyone this time, so that's an improvement I guess lol. Is that why in book 1 or 2, Moth Flight had 3 brothers, and then she suddenly had 2 brothers and a sister? he wouldnt let micah and moth flight get smth they needed from his territory (honey, i think? either way it was a serious situation) and he literally encouraged one of his warriors to chase micah up a tree, which resulted in a branch snapping, causing micah to fall and be crushed to death. he was just his usual territorial asshole self Ohh! I know that the book came before Gray Wing died (I think) But if you look at it from an in-universe perspective, it could be like he's acting out because he misses Gray Wing? I don't know. I know Clear Sky is a terrible jerk, but I like seeing the best in characters (for the most part, unless they're annoying) |
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Sept 29, 2020 11:29:45 GMT -5
Clear Sky cannot be redeemed imo, that redemption just went down the drain. It was like one of those bad Youtube apology videos. Even when he claims he's not, Clear Sky is still the same cat underneath, or at least that's how I saw him.
Certain moments I liked him, and others I didn't. He is so inconsistent that his redemption just feels so hollow and false. But my opinion is very, very biased lol.
I am a determined disliker of Clear Sky.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 29, 2020 11:32:06 GMT -5
As someone who loves Skystar, I didn't like how he was handled in the last two books and especially MFV.
Relapses happen and I'm not expecting for change to occur overnight, but it's pretty obvious from the writing that they didn't really know what to do with his character after TBS, which isn't helped by MFV being inconsistent with the rest of the books due to it being around the time of TFB's publication.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:32:11 GMT -5
Clear Sky cannot be redeemed imo, that redemption just went down the drain. It was like one of those bad Youtube apology videos. Even when he claims he's not, Clear Sky is still the same cat underneath, or at least that's how I saw him. Certain moments I liked him, and others I didn't. He is so inconsistent that his redemption just feels so hollow and false. But my opinion is very, very biased lol. I am a determined disliker of Clear Sky. Omg you're right. But I just found his drive so interesting, like, he wasn't driven by revenge or ambition, he was driven by fear. I don't like what he's done, but I don't think I could ever dislike him, because I find him super interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:33:44 GMT -5
As someone who loves Skystar, I didn't like how he was handled in the last two books and especially MFV. Relapses happen and I'm not expecting for change to occur overnight, but it's pretty obvious from the writing that they didn't really know what to do with his character after TBS, which isn't helped by MFV being inconsistent with the rest of the books due to it being around the time of TFB's publication. I think it's so interesting, that they wrote an SE, that takes place after the main arc it's stemming from, without finishing the arc first. |
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Sept 29, 2020 11:38:29 GMT -5
Clear Sky cannot be redeemed imo, that redemption just went down the drain. It was like one of those bad Youtube apology videos. Even when he claims he's not, Clear Sky is still the same cat underneath, or at least that's how I saw him. Certain moments I liked him, and others I didn't. He is so inconsistent that his redemption just feels so hollow and false. But my opinion is very, very biased lol. I am a determined disliker of Clear Sky. Omg you're right. But I just found his drive so interesting, like, he wasn't driven by revenge or ambition, he was driven by fear. I don't like what he's done, but I don't think I could ever dislike him, because I find him super interesting. That's true! He was a very interesting character and a compelling villain when he was one. But still, he killed Rainswept Flower, my favorite character, and that makes me a n g r y. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:39:43 GMT -5
Omg you're right. But I just found his drive so interesting, like, he wasn't driven by revenge or ambition, he was driven by fear. I don't like what he's done, but I don't think I could ever dislike him, because I find him super interesting. That's true! He was a very interesting character and a compelling villain when he was one. But still, he killed Rainswept Flower, my favorite character, and that makes me a n g r y.Ugh true! Rainswept Flower was one of the best |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 29, 2020 11:47:54 GMT -5
As someone who loves Skystar, I didn't like how he was handled in the last two books and especially MFV. Relapses happen and I'm not expecting for change to occur overnight, but it's pretty obvious from the writing that they didn't really know what to do with his character after TBS, which isn't helped by MFV being inconsistent with the rest of the books due to it being around the time of TFB's publication. I think it's so interesting, that they wrote an SE, that takes place after the main arc it's stemming from, without finishing the arc first. I say it's overconfidence. Comparing the ending of PoS to the beginning of MFV, it seems like the writers initially had a different story in mind and just didn't bother making revisions, because the Clans already view each other as rivals and gossip about each other. For some reason, there also seems to be a bit of retconning involved when it comes to the warrior code, because now it's gone back to saying that at least parts of it were established within a single generation (ex: Gatherings, Raven Pelt being Shadowstar's second deputy despite not being related to her). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 11:50:53 GMT -5
I think it's so interesting, that they wrote an SE, that takes place after the main arc it's stemming from, without finishing the arc first. I say it's overconfidence. Comparing the ending of PoS to the beginning of MFV, it seems like the writers initially had a different story in mind and just didn't bother making revisions, because the Clans already view each other as rivals and gossip about each other. For some reason, there also seems to be a bit of retconning involved when it comes to the warrior code, because now it's gone back to saying that at least parts of it were established within a single generation (ex: Gatherings, Raven Pelt being Shadowstar's second deputy despite not being related to her). Oh, that's a bit odd...I wonder how the story could have been different, if they had written Moth Flight's Vision after the arc was over? |
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 29, 2020 12:34:43 GMT -5
lol this is hilarious
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 29, 2020 12:49:42 GMT -5
I think it's so interesting, that they wrote an SE, that takes place after the main arc it's stemming from, without finishing the arc first. I say it's overconfidence. Comparing the ending of PoS to the beginning of MFV, it seems like the writers initially had a different story in mind and just didn't bother making revisions, because the Clans already view each other as rivals and gossip about each other. For some reason, there also seems to be a bit of retconning involved when it comes to the warrior code, because now it's gone back to saying that at least parts of it were established within a single generation (ex: Gatherings, Raven Pelt being Shadowstar's second deputy despite not being related to her). Well, at least with Shadowstar’s second deputy. She didn’t really have any other living relatives to choose from. Her brother was dead as was her nephew after all. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 12:56:47 GMT -5
Me: Ah y'know. I like Clear Sky. I do. He got better imo. I like him even after MFV. Anyway let's finally continue to reread- Thunder Rising's one-two punch of pure awfulness: Me:  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:01:11 GMT -5
Right? I saw it on a not like other girls video on youtube, and it actually initially made me think of Breezepelt, then I asked on discord, which cat they thought it fit best, and someone said Clear Sky, and it fits him too, so here we are XD |
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Post by Cloverƒall on Sept 29, 2020 16:06:02 GMT -5
Read like a YouTuber Apology video. The only redemption that measures up in cringe was Breezepelt's.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 18:01:17 GMT -5
Read like a YouTuber Apology video. The only redemption that measures up in cringe was Breezepelt's. clear sky is the guy who has a sponsor for his apology vid |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 18:09:08 GMT -5
Read like a YouTuber Apology video. The only redemption that measures up in cringe was Breezepelt's. clear sky is the guy who has a sponsor for his apology vid The sponsor is actually Star Flower |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 18:10:49 GMT -5
clear sky is the guy who has a sponsor for his apology vid The sponsor is actually Star Flower star flower is selling her bath water- |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 18:11:23 GMT -5
The sponsor is actually Star Flower star flower is selling her bath water- LOL Thunder's buying it in bulk |
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Sept 29, 2020 18:14:22 GMT -5
This guy should have not remained leader after book 3 and he remained a jerk even after he was redeemed lol. Your apology letter is great!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 18:19:57 GMT -5
This guy should have not remained leader after book 3 and he remained a jerk even after he was redeemed lol. Your apology letter is great! I still think it'd be extremely interesting if he went to the DF. Imagine, a clan founder being in the DF. It could explain why SkyClan always has bad luck |
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 29, 2020 18:33:46 GMT -5
Clear Sky's redemption being a YouTuber's apology video pretty much sums it all up ngl
Also, that picture is hilarious and dead accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 21:15:40 GMT -5
Clear Sky writing this letter from the floor I was in a dark place
I hate that ik yt apology videos LMFAO
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 21:24:57 GMT -5
Clear Sky writing this letter from the floor I was in a dark placeI hate that ik yt apology videos LMFAO LOL imagine him sitting all dramatically on a stump darkened by the shade casted off from branches of another tree XD |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 9:06:19 GMT -5
Clear Sky writing this letter from the floor I was in a dark placeI hate that ik yt apology videos LMFAO LOL imagine him sitting all dramatically on a stump darkened by the shade casted off from branches of another tree XD Omfg that's perfect!!!!!! I want clear sky to say the dark place line and someone off "camera" yell "get out of the shade" lmao |
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Post by soaringwyvern on Sept 30, 2020 12:21:40 GMT -5
 ....I have mixed feelings about him...but i don't think he'd ever actually admit fault...minus the one time with his mom. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 12:25:51 GMT -5
LOL imagine him sitting all dramatically on a stump darkened by the shade casted off from branches of another tree XD Omfg that's perfect!!!!!! I want clear sky to say the dark place line and someone off "camera" yell "get out of the shade" lmao  I know it's not exactly what you said, or even close, but ehhh XD |
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