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Post by Hollyfall on May 11, 2020 16:50:26 GMT -5
Seeing how the Clans know he's a fraud, I don't see how he'll survive past book 4 unfortunately. Unless he's got some sort of last trick up his sleeve. I'd like him to maybe survive until at least book 5 though.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 11, 2020 16:53:07 GMT -5
why can't villains live longer now a days? whoever the mastermind is better take over afterward then because i dont want another AVOS.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 11, 2020 17:01:04 GMT -5
Is your status really appropriate?
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Spinestar
Got The Ashfur Tattoo!
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Post by Spinestar on May 11, 2020 17:28:02 GMT -5
Seeing how the Clans know he's a fraud, I don't see how he'll survive past book 4 unfortunately. Unless he's got some sort of last trick up his sleeve. I'd like him to maybe survive until at least book 5 though. Maybe he can recruit spirits to do his bidding for him, like he hinted about Spiresight? Maybe he can build himself an army? I sure hope we get something like that.
Its hinted in the first DW blurb that a battle looms, converted to being at a breaking point in updated version (I think it means same thing). Either its caused by the imposter or arguments over changing warrior code (hopefully earlier).
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Cloud
resident Tribe of Rushing Water enthusiast
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Post by Cloud on May 11, 2020 17:35:10 GMT -5
Keep him alive, I love this trash cat and all the chaos around him.
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coastalwolf
being. existing.
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Post by coastalwolf on May 11, 2020 18:03:45 GMT -5
i think he will survive because then what would the next few books be about? look, i was right about shadowsight i might be right about this
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Got The Ashfur Tattoo!
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Post by Spinestar on May 11, 2020 18:17:18 GMT -5
i think he will survive because then what would the next few books be about? look, i was right about shadowsight i might be right about this The last 2 books could be about changing the warrior code with imposter gone. The Clans could certainly get in conflict over what rules to change and what to keep
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coastalwolf
being. existing.
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Post by coastalwolf on May 11, 2020 18:37:47 GMT -5
true. but that would make for a very boring last book.
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Post by Brindlefern on May 11, 2020 18:52:09 GMT -5
true. but that would make for a very boring last book. We need a "break" book at some point in this arc though. There's so much going on as is with barely any room for the cats to breathe and not look over their shoulders.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 11, 2020 19:06:52 GMT -5
true. but that would make for a very boring last book. We need a "break" book at some point in this arc though. There's so much going on as is with barely any room for the cats to breathe and not look over their shoulders. feels like nothing can please the readers. having nothing exciting for the climactic end of the sixth book would be boring. and if there's too much "break" time in the last couple books, the real ending to the conflict will be anticlimactic. the original arc had tigerstar live to the last book, then bloodclan took over to be defeated after him in the last book. the new prophecy had hawkfrost last til the last book. power of three had no real conflict unless you count ashfur and he was found dead in the last book (unless i got this wrong). omen of the stars had the dark forest battle with firestar and tigerstar both dying til the last book. avos is the only one to have big bad, darktail, die early and lots of people consider the last couple books boring because of that. i dont want the same for TBC since it started out super well.
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coastalwolf
being. existing.
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Post by coastalwolf on May 11, 2020 19:19:15 GMT -5
eh ok.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on May 11, 2020 22:14:33 GMT -5
Hopefully the impostor survives at least until book five. There's probably plenty of other things he can do to cause chaos. Any sooner is just too soon.
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Post by polarpace on May 12, 2020 0:19:05 GMT -5
I can very much see him dying around the end of the next book, but I really hope he survives until the sixth.
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Post by Hollyfall on May 12, 2020 13:35:19 GMT -5
For those of you saying yes, besides thinking HC won't pull another AVOS because of fan response, what makes you think the imposter will survive DW? What more can he do? Well, we do know the impostor can just un-possess Bramblestar's body as he wants (he did so in Veil of Shadows), maybe he leaves Bramblestar's body and possesses another corpse? If he leaves Bramblestar's body suddenly, the Clan cats won't be able to figure out where he went.
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Spinestar
Got The Ashfur Tattoo!
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Post by Spinestar on May 12, 2020 13:43:03 GMT -5
For those of you saying yes, besides thinking HC won't pull another AVOS because of fan response, what makes you think the imposter will survive DW? What more can he do? Well, we do know the impostor can just un-possess Bramblestar's body as he wants (he did so in Veil of Shadows), maybe he leaves Bramblestar's body and possesses another corpse? If he leaves Bramblestar's body suddenly, the Clan cats won't be able to figure out where he went. GENIUS!
I initially thought the imposter's instructions to Shadowpaw in LS to cure Bramblestar was a ritual that allowed him to possess Bramblestar/enter his body, but I guess it was just an easy and guaranteed way to make him lose a life
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I guess I'm not new but I'm still lost and pretending like I know what is going on
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Post by Olivemoon on May 12, 2020 14:12:06 GMT -5
For those of you saying yes, besides thinking HC won't pull another AVOS because of fan response, what makes you think the imposter will survive DW? What more can he do? Well, we do know the impostor can just un-possess Bramblestar's body as he wants (he did so in Veil of Shadows), maybe he leaves Bramblestar's body and possesses another corpse? If he leaves Bramblestar's body suddenly, the Clan cats won't be able to figure out where he went. If that is the case it would definitely help the story last till the last book. They could think that they defeated him in the 4th book. Book five could be them trying to change the warrior code (the "break" book) and then find out at the end that the impostor is still alive and then book six could be them finally getting rid of the impostor.
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Post by Spinestar on May 13, 2020 19:39:26 GMT -5
Do we need a "break book"? That just sounds like filler. Everyone howled about there being too much filler in AVOS, but now apparently we need more? I think the pacing is just fine and if they have the material to keep the last three books as big page-turners, I will gladly read it. I feel like these three books have been well-paced and the moments that are supposed to be uplifting and pay off do pretty spectacularly. If they want to pace the series well, the impostor needs to survive book four. Darktail dying in book three killed the pacing of AVOS, they just didn't add enough conflict in the last three books. They should have made the imposter WIN at the end of VOS. I don’t get why they want the villain to lose so early, they coulda modified the plot to achieve their end goal involving the code and StarClan and whatever the ending will be while still having him come on top in VOS. They should know the readers want something like that. We have expressed our feelings very clearly to them Regarding the pacing, it is going way too fast, why have the Forest figure out he’s an imposter halfway through the series and not later and allow the imposter cause more chaos. Good luck to the imposter surviving DW. Can’t see it happening as much as I desperately want it to
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Post by Spinestar on May 13, 2020 19:41:58 GMT -5
Hopefully the impostor survives at least until book five. There's probably plenty of other things he can do to cause chaos. Any sooner is just too soon. What options are there for him to cause chaos? Not only is he weakened, but now the entire forest is against him. He has no supporters except for Spiresight, a good cat, doing his bidding
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Post by TigerLily on May 13, 2020 19:50:06 GMT -5
Do we need a "break book"? That just sounds like filler. Everyone howled about there being too much filler in AVOS, but now apparently we need more? I think the pacing is just fine and if they have the material to keep the last three books as big page-turners, I will gladly read it. I feel like these three books have been well-paced and the moments that are supposed to be uplifting and pay off do pretty spectacularly. If they want to pace the series well, the impostor needs to survive book four. Darktail dying in book three killed the pacing of AVOS, they just didn't add enough conflict in the last three books. They should have made the imposter WIN at the end of VOS. I don’t get why they want the villain to lose so early, they coulda modified the plot to achieve their end goal involving the code and StarClan and whatever the ending will be while still having him come on top in VOS. They should know the readers want something like that. We have expressed our feelings very clearly to them Regarding the pacing, it is going way too fast, why have the Forest figure out he’s an imposter halfway through the series and not later and allow the imposter cause more chaos. Good luck to the imposter surviving DW. Can’t see it happening as much as I desperately want it to I feel like it's not over quite yet. If it is, it definitely went way too fast and I agree with you. I wouldn't be surprised if it fizzled out, which is a shame.
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Post by kinkajou on May 13, 2020 22:25:12 GMT -5
I think Squilf will keep him alive long enough for him to escape
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Post by Cloud on May 13, 2020 22:27:54 GMT -5
Hopefully the impostor survives at least until book five. There's probably plenty of other things he can do to cause chaos. Any sooner is just too soon. What options are there for him to cause chaos? Not only is he weakened, but now the entire forest is against him. He has no supporters except for Spiresight, a good cat, doing his bidding who's to say that he can't go and possess another cat? What's to stop him from possessing Mistystar, Harestar, or the other leaders? Perhaps even a Clan deputy? Leaving Bramblestar's body is one thing, but they also have to find the imposter if he abandons Bramblestar's body. afterthought: even better- what if he possesses a medicine cat instead?
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Post by Spinestar on May 13, 2020 23:18:45 GMT -5
What options are there for him to cause chaos? Not only is he weakened, but now the entire forest is against him. He has no supporters except for Spiresight, a good cat, doing his bidding who's to say that he can't go and possess another cat? What's to stop him from possessing Mistystar, Harestar, or the other leaders? Perhaps even a Clan deputy? Leaving Bramblestar's body is one thing, but they also have to find the imposter if he abandons Bramblestar's body. afterthought: even better- what if he possesses a medicine cat instead? True but do you think another possession is likely?
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Post by Cloud on May 13, 2020 23:20:09 GMT -5
who's to say that he can't go and possess another cat? What's to stop him from possessing Mistystar, Harestar, or the other leaders? Perhaps even a Clan deputy? Leaving Bramblestar's body is one thing, but they also have to find the imposter if he abandons Bramblestar's body. afterthought: even better- what if he possesses a medicine cat instead? True but do you think another possession is likely? given that this imposter shows no signs of giving in, yeah I do, actually.
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Post by Brindlefern on May 13, 2020 23:27:31 GMT -5
I don't think he'll survive past DW tbh. I don't see what's so bad with a break book either, it's not like AVoS where we had a whole second arc of filler. When I say a break book I don't mean break bookS. Fricking one where the cast can BREATHE without something super crazy happening wouldn't be bad at all and idk why it is, and even then, the effects the impostor will have on the clans will probably be pretty bad and might last a while. Idk if it's Darktail bad but still, if Bramble gets his body back (Which I hope he doesn't) the clans are probably gonna have a really hard time trusting him or something assuming the narrative doesn't act as though everything is now fine once he does return. To add, the pacing of the story is going too fast and it'd help to just, ya know... slow it down a little for ONE book, don't you think? >.>
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Spinestar
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Post by Spinestar on May 13, 2020 23:32:01 GMT -5
True but do you think another possession is likely? given that this imposter shows no signs of giving in, yeah I do, actually. I hope you’re right. Only a little over a month till we find out
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