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Post by Feathertalon on May 22, 2020 21:42:44 GMT -5
Ayyyy, congrats everybody!!
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Post by mimikyutie on May 22, 2020 21:47:01 GMT -5
This is really happening!!
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 22, 2020 21:48:17 GMT -5
Congrats everyone!!
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 22, 2020 21:49:17 GMT -5
Congratulations!!
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Post by ᴏᴡʟ on May 22, 2020 22:15:37 GMT -5
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Post by Sand on May 22, 2020 22:22:08 GMT -5
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Bisexual
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 3:54:17 GMT -5
I'm a little late on here, but congrats everyone!
I promise to rewrite one of ThunderClan's traditions tomorrow. Am I rewriting SkyClan's nest decoration one as well or would someone else want to?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 17:11:08 GMT -5
Are we going to be doing a thing called secondary leaders?
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Post by Sand on May 23, 2020 17:26:56 GMT -5
I think the role-play mod would be considered a secondary leader in my opinion. But we should probably ask everyone about it.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 17:27:41 GMT -5
I was thinking in case both the leader and mod of a Clan were gone. It's unfortunately happened before.
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Post by Sand on May 23, 2020 18:16:54 GMT -5
Probably need to discuss with everyone else, I think that would be best. Leapkit - would you be okay with me being WindClan's deputy or nah?
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Post by Leapkit on May 23, 2020 18:33:36 GMT -5
Probably need to discuss with everyone else, I think that would be best. Leapkit - would you be okay with me being WindClan's deputy or nah? Probably, sure! But I'd like to know what character you had in mind? I want to know like what my characters motivation for choosing them would be.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 18:33:43 GMT -5
I brought up to see what everyone thought. I think it is a good idea in the case a leader and mod were to be gone. We could do it alphabetically with the Clans or in order of the territory.
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Post by Sand on May 23, 2020 18:51:26 GMT -5
Probably need to discuss with everyone else, I think that would be best. Leapkit - would you be okay with me being WindClan's deputy or nah? Probably, sure! But I'd like to know what character you had in mind? I want to know like what my characters motivation for choosing them would be. here's the character I had in mind but I also have others. Since I have... 2 characters completed for this entire rp, so I'm down to make a different character. Sparrowtuft - a long-legged white tom with brown tabby patches and bright green eyes. [suave - smooth talker - two faced - logical - strategic]
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Post by Sand on May 23, 2020 18:52:05 GMT -5
I brought up to see what everyone thought. I think it is a good idea in the case a leader and mod were to be gone. We could do it alphabetically with the Clans or in order of the territory. I'm good with either of those. It's up to the five of you that have the clans.
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on May 23, 2020 19:08:24 GMT -5
Yeah I’m chill with whatever
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 19:16:48 GMT -5
I know I don't want us picking Clans to be secondaries to because that leaves an odd man out. For territory placement rotation, we have like four options? WindClan > RiverClan > ShadowClan > ThunderClan > SkyClan > Back to WindClan. Or.. SkyClan > ThunderClan > ShadowClan > RiverClan > WindClan > Back to SkyClan. Third option would be kinda weird as it's a bounce, so.. SkyClan > RiverClan > WindClan > ThunderClan > ShadowClan. The other would be reversed. I think alphabetical and the two first territory placements would work.
So, for this, a secondary leader only gets power to accept people for a Clan they don't own if the leader and mod(s) are gone. They also keep an eye and make sure things are running smoothly. If there is a Gathering and they are having to run both their own and a secondary, they will only have the Clan show at Fourtrees and report the news.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 20:50:53 GMT -5
Leapkit Hey, are you able to find any pictures for Teaselstar? I can't find any with what you said he was.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 21:18:25 GMT -5
Hello, it's little ol' me again. So while I was going to rewrite some of the traditions for ThunderClan due to some of Owl's valid concerns, I noticed that there were a few things that confused me. I was rereading all of the traditions to prevent from copying them too much. (I know we can't avoid some similarities.)
One concern I had was in ShadowClan's tradition "A Night Alone in The Woods" where it implies that there is a ceremony for senior apprentices. I know we're separating apprentices into young and older to make the tasks that we discussed easier to moderate and we're also dividing warriors by age as well. So I wasn't sure if this was an intention, as it could be changed to "before they turn nine moons old, they..." so we don't have to write out a ceremony.
We've already touched on ThunderClan's adder tradition, but they seem to share a greenleaf tradition with RiverClan and I was wondering if you guys wanted to change that a little bit and in which Clan.
Another one that is shared with RiverClan is SkyClan's nest decoration. I remember some people already saying okay to this change due to RiverClan having canon favor. But I just wanted to remind everyone.
Lastly, I was confused by ThunderClan's "Senior Council" tradition, as it's one that is already semi-canon but seems to imply power is taken away from the leader? I think it's how it's worded not to mention that a leader typically consults their deputy and senior warriors on matters and they talk it out. It kind of takes away from the drama of one of the highly controversial codes that a leader's word is law.
I'm still going to reread them all again and see if there is anything that we may need to change before Owl proofreads them.
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Post by mimikyutie on May 23, 2020 21:21:12 GMT -5
As for the council: It merely states that large decisions are typically discussed with the leader, as well as older cats. I don't see how that takes away from the leader's word being law. It just means that they've got help with decisions that they may find difficult.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 21:23:33 GMT -5
"Ultimately, the leader gets to make the final decision, but it is highly frowned upon for the leader to go against the council’s majority vote."
Is the line I'm referring to, as I feel like if a leader decides against the council too often, then it gets to where everyone questions the leader. I understand that can and will happen, but I feel like that directly conflicts the leader's word is law. It also can pressure a leader into a vote when the leader has been chosen as deputy and leader and has the blessing of StarClan with nine lives. It's also very close to canon so seems redundantly mundane.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 23, 2020 21:26:05 GMT -5
"Ultimately, the leader gets to make the final decision, but it is highly frowned upon for the leader to go against the council’s majority vote."
Is the line I'm referring to, as I feel like if a leader decides against the council too often, then it gets to where everyone questions the leader. I understand that can and will happen, but I feel like that directly conflicts the leader's word is law. Just make it “Ultimately, the leader gets to make the final decision” then.
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Post by mimikyutie on May 23, 2020 21:26:16 GMT -5
"Ultimately, the leader gets to make the final decision, but it is highly frowned upon for the leader to go against the council’s majority vote."
Is the line I'm referring to, as I feel like if a leader decides against the council too often, then it gets to where everyone questions the leader. I understand that can and will happen, but I feel like that directly conflicts the leader's word is law. Even if the leader's word is law, that doesn't mean other cats won't have an opinion on it. They can follow an order but still not like it.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 21:28:22 GMT -5
"Ultimately, the leader gets to make the final decision, but it is highly frowned upon for the leader to go against the council’s majority vote."
Is the line I'm referring to, as I feel like if a leader decides against the council too often, then it gets to where everyone questions the leader. I understand that can and will happen, but I feel like that directly conflicts the leader's word is law. Even if the leader's word is law, that doesn't mean other cats won't have an opinion on it. They can follow an order but still not like it. But it's also repetitive to canon, so it doesn't really serve a purpose as a tradition? It's not just the code part.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 23, 2020 21:30:06 GMT -5
Even if the leader's word is law, that doesn't mean other cats won't have an opinion on it. They can follow an order but still not like it. But it's also repetitive to canon, so it doesn't really serve a purpose as a tradition? It's not just the code part. Well, we can replace it entirely then, I don’t mind.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on May 23, 2020 21:30:44 GMT -5
But I'm not keen on having it be a tradition when it's already common in every Clan in the books. I would rather us come up with something that can replace it over what feels a bit like cheating.
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