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Post by Fireleap on Mar 18, 2020 15:02:31 GMT -5
So aside from plot continuity errors (Spottedleaf's Heart, Redtail's Debt, etc.) I hate it when characters who died are magically alive. Of course we have the classic Heavystep case, but there's so many more. The two big ones I can think of are also in RiverClan. Like, someone HAS to have told HC that Beetlewhisker's dead, right? Right? He even got his own apprentice! It annoys me to no end. Then there's Heronwing. He died in Shattered Sky (I think) and then like five pages later whoops! He's alive again! His biggest offence was in the River of Fire bonus scene. Not only is he alive, he's suddenly Jayclaw now??? How hard is it to keep track of which character is talking to who! A paragraph before it was Jayclaw but all of a sudden it's Heronwing now? The one who's supposed to be dead? Ugh, it annoys me every time I think about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:15:51 GMT -5
The editing scenes with different characters or whatever, annoys me. Like, with the Mousewhisker and Thornclaw thing. In my book, it seemed like Mousewhisker was the one training with Blossomfall, and Lionblaze thinking that they'd become mates. But in other books, it's Thornclaw in his place..so I was completely confused on why Thornclaw x Blossomfall were a thing, when it seemed like Mousewhisker x Blossomfall were going to be a thing, and people were confused on why I thought it was Mousewhisker who she was training with lol. Like, here's what it says in my book ![](https://i.imgur.com/ESiwwMf.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/2BMjeuo.jpg) I heard they changed it to fix a plot hole...but what plot hole? It's just confusing. Apparently, the same thing happened with Slatefur and Rippletail (from ShadowClan)
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Post by Fireleap on Mar 18, 2020 15:37:43 GMT -5
Mistystar being Graystripe's daughter. Bramblestar's Storm Yeah :/ It also annoys me because I had the print before they changed it, but my dad threw it out. I'm never getting that book back and it really makes me mad.
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Post by Fireleap on Mar 18, 2020 15:39:26 GMT -5
The editing scenes with different characters or whatever, annoys me. Like, with the Mousewhisker and Thornclaw thing. In my book, it seemed like Mousewhisker was the one training with Blossomfall, and Lionblaze thinking that they'd become mates. But in other books, it's Thornclaw in his place..so I was completely confused on why Thornclaw x Blossomfall were a thing, when it seemed like Mousewhisker x Blossomfall were going to be a thing, and people were confused on why I thought it was Mousewhisker who she was training with lol. Like, here's what it says in my book ![](https://i.imgur.com/ESiwwMf.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/2BMjeuo.jpg) I heard they changed it to fix a plot hole...but what plot hole? It's just confusing. Apparently, the same thing happened with Slatefur and Rippletail (from ShadowClan) I remember seeing you talk about that a while ago. I just check my version and I have the one where it's Thornclaw. Out of curiosity, does your copy have the new cover?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:44:52 GMT -5
FireleapI think so? Does yours?
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Post by Fireleap on Mar 18, 2020 15:49:03 GMT -5
I've got the old cover. I was wondering if that was when the change happened, and they were planning on making Mousewhisker her mate? I think the new covers printed before the release of Shattered Sky so that might've been it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:54:55 GMT -5
I've got the old cover. I was wondering if that was when the change happened, and they were planning on making Mousewhisker her mate? I think the new covers printed before the release of Shattered Sky so that might've been it? Maybe, I'm curious as to watch major thing that Blossomfall, Mousewhisker, or Thornclaw did to cause a plot hole, that needed to be corrected
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Mar 18, 2020 16:03:04 GMT -5
Just general event inconsistencies for me. Really, you'd think the Erins would learn to keep better track of the timeline by now.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Mar 18, 2020 16:05:51 GMT -5
I've got the old cover. I was wondering if that was when the change happened, and they were planning on making Mousewhisker her mate? I think the new covers printed before the release of Shattered Sky so that might've been it? Maybe, I'm curious as to watch major thing that Blossomfall, Mousewhisker, or Thornclaw did to cause a plot hole, that needed to be correctedย I know Hollowflight was changed to Furzepelt in the reprints for who was being bullied enough to train the Dark Forest, but I can't think of any reason for why Thornclaw was changed to Mousewhisker unless it was because Thornclaw had already been born Tigerstar was still alive, nor does Ivypool mention that Thornclaw had been training in the Dark Forest when she's revealing which ThunderClan cats are trainees.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 16:09:46 GMT -5
Maybe, I'm curious as to watch major thing that Blossomfall, Mousewhisker, or Thornclaw did to cause a plot hole, that needed to be corrected I know Hollowflight was changed to Furzepelt in the reprints for who was being bullied enough to train the Dark Forest, but I can't think of any reason for why Thornclaw was changed to Mousewhisker unless it was because Thornclaw had already been born Tigerstar was still alive, nor does Ivypool mention that Thornclaw had been training in the Dark Forest when she's revealing which ThunderClan cats are trainees. That's strange, because I remember Hollowflight being the one who got bullied in my book, but nothing about Furzepelt. I also don't remember the Sunkstrike cat at all, who everyone talks about, but that could have also been a lack of attention on my part
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Post by streamflower on Mar 18, 2020 16:44:00 GMT -5
Redtail killing Oakheart, and Oakheart being an absolute murder-hungry jerk/threatening an apprentices life
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Post by Jaysnow on Mar 18, 2020 17:07:42 GMT -5
Redtailโs Debt, and the fact that Cherrytail and Cloudmist dropped off the face of the earth.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 18, 2020 17:12:32 GMT -5
Jay, Lion, and Holly being born in leaf-bare and then being apprenticed six moons later... in leaf-bare. Also, Chicken , what book is that? I really want to check my copy now. (Unfortunately I can't until after pandemic, because my books are at my other place of living, but still).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 17:14:15 GMT -5
Jay, Lion, and Holly being born in leaf-bare and then being apprenticed six moons later... in leaf-bare. Also, Chicken , what book is that? I really want to check my copy now. (Unfortunately I can't until after pandemic, because my books are at my other place of living, but still). I'm 99% sure it's The Last Hope Must have been a really long leaf-bare lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 20:14:28 GMT -5
twigbranch suddenly not knowing that bramblestar was possessed, she was at the secret meeting!
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#add8e6
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 18, 2020 20:27:42 GMT -5
Eye colors changing constantly. -_-
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 20:34:16 GMT -5
twigbranch suddenly not knowing that bramblestar was possessed, she was at the secret meeting! That makes me think of how, several apprentices became warriors, in like less than an hour, in between Lost Stars and The Silent Thaw. Also...Kitescratch and Turtlecrawl must be the YOUNGEST warriors ever, other than the ones from Brokenstar's reign. They're only a moon older than Rootpaw and Needlepaw, who were apprenticed like yesterday. I know that SkyClan is apparently different in how fast they make someone a warrior, but what? Do they make everyone seven moon old warriors?
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 18, 2020 20:46:56 GMT -5
Obviously this series is notorious for inconsistencies, but the ones that irk me the most are the ones that contradict fundamental aspects of the series (Redtail killing Oakheart, or the Slatefur/Rippletail mishap in Tigerheart's Shadow), or characters suddenly changing descriptions (Dovewing, Shellfur). I obviously don't expect the editors to catch every detail in this series, but some of them are just blatant mistakes and hard to not see.
Oh, and cats like Ratscar, Millie, RC Mintfur, Shrewtooth, Egg, Petalnose, Creekfeather, and Rockshade just vanishing into thin air without an explanation. Did they die? Were they forgotten? Guess we'll never know.
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 18, 2020 20:53:54 GMT -5
twigbranch suddenly not knowing that bramblestar was possessed, she was at the secret meeting! That makes me think of how, several apprentices became warriors, in like less than an hour, in between Lost Stars and The Silent Thaw. Also...Kitescratch and Turtlecrawl must be the YOUNGEST warriors ever, other than the ones from Brokenstar's reign. They're only a moon older than Rootpaw and Needlepaw, who were apprenticed like yesterday. Actually, since The Silent Thaw starts around the beginning of newleaf, and those two were born near the end of the newleaf prior, making their age around a year. I think apprentices complete their training around that time? I could be wrong, but I believe it's arguably plausible for them to be warriors at that time. But yeah, honestly it really does feel like Rootpaw and Needlepaw were apprenticed yesterday, and the other two do feel a little young to be warriors when we were introduced to them the book prior.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Mar 18, 2020 21:18:43 GMT -5
SH for going against everything previously said about Spottedleaf AND Thistleclaw And Redtail's Debt for the Oakheart thing, but also Ravenpaw wanting to fight everything? When he was stated to be nervous since he was a kit?
I hate major character inconsistencies
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Post by Uะผะฒัแด on Mar 19, 2020 3:01:03 GMT -5
The fact that there is no series bible and they rush these books out causing these inconsistencies to happen regularly. You know there's a problem when the authors use a fanmade wiki as their resource.
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Post by ~ฦฮฑะผะผฮน-`แฆยด- on Mar 19, 2020 4:05:06 GMT -5
Redtailโs Debt. No further explanation needed x.x
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 6:58:10 GMT -5
That makes me think of how, several apprentices became warriors, in like less than an hour, in between Lost Stars and The Silent Thaw. Also...Kitescratch and Turtlecrawl must be the YOUNGEST warriors ever, other than the ones from Brokenstar's reign. They're only a moon older than Rootpaw and Needlepaw, who were apprenticed like yesterday. Actually, since The Silent Thaw starts around the beginning of newleaf, and those two were born near the end of the newleaf prior, making their age around a year. I think apprentices complete their training around that time? I could be wrong, but I believe it's arguably plausible for them to be warriors at that time. But yeah, honestly it really does feel like Rootpaw and Needlepaw were apprenticed yesterday, and the other two do feel a little young to be warriors when we were introduced to them the book prior. Oh wow, it really doesn't feel like a whole six moons have gone by since they were apprenticed lol But maybe it has
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 7:01:46 GMT -5
Another one is Reedwhisker being a kit for like two years. He was born in the first series, and not even at the end, but in The New Prophecy, he's STILL an apprentice? I remember being really confused by one of the books where he had an apprentice, and having to double check, because in the previous book, he had been an apprentice, and then suddenly, he had an apprentice of his own?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Mar 19, 2020 7:41:29 GMT -5
Another one is Reedwhisker being a kit for like two years. He was born in the first series, and not even at the end, but in The New Prophecy, he's STILL an apprentice? I remember being really confused by one of the books where he had an apprentice, and having to double check, because in the previous book, he had been an apprentice, and then suddenly, he had an apprentice of his own? With regards to becoming a mentor, Reedwhisker is an apprentice in Moonrise and doesn't even become a mentor until Twilight. That's about three seasons or so if I recall correctly. It's really not that unrealistic for him to have received one between Leafpool saving him and then talking again after they've both gotten their full names. As for him still being an apprentice when Leafpaw meets him, it's possible his training had been delayed as an in-universe reason, but then this means he had to have been one for about three years or so. It's mistakes like these that annoy me the most.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 7:48:12 GMT -5
Another one is Reedwhisker being a kit for like two years. He was born in the first series, and not even at the end, but in The New Prophecy, he's STILL an apprentice? I remember being really confused by one of the books where he had an apprentice, and having to double check, because in the previous book, he had been an apprentice, and then suddenly, he had an apprentice of his own? With regards to becoming a mentor, Reedwhisker is an apprentice in Moonrise and doesn't even become a mentor until Twilight. That's about three seasons or so if I recall correctly. It's really not that unrealistic for him to have received one between Leafpool saving him and then talking again after they've both gotten their full names. As for him still being an apprentice when Leafpaw meets him, it's possible his training had been delayed as an in-universe reason, but then this means he had to have been one for about three years or so. It's mistakes like these that annoy me the most. Oh really? I should really start paying more attention to the time-line and what not lol
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Post by platinum blond death on Mar 19, 2020 11:12:22 GMT -5
I hate it when characters suddenly become a whole new character, or when characters switch description. Can't they keep them straight?
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 19, 2020 14:06:03 GMT -5
I agree with cats magically coming back to life. I hate it when that happens. Heavystep, Beetlewhisker and Clawface are the ones that come to mind. It took me forever to read Tigerclaw's Fury because of that mistake. And Beetlewhisker all of a sudden being a mentor? Ha ha, no. I'm going with Sneezecloud being Harelight's mentor instead. That's who it is in the Norwegian version of the books.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 19, 2020 14:08:45 GMT -5
Another one is Reedwhisker being a kit for like two years. He was born in the first series, and not even at the end, but in The New Prophecy, he's STILL an apprentice? I remember being really confused by one of the books where he had an apprentice, and having to double check, because in the previous book, he had been an apprentice, and then suddenly, he had an apprentice of his own? Speaking of which, I wonder if we'll see Rippletail as a kit in MS. Nothing to do with the topic, I know. Though, they could edit out Reedwhisker being the apprentice that nearly drowned to someone else. Mothwing was there.
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