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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 14:11:39 GMT -5
Another one is Reedwhisker being a kit for like two years. He was born in the first series, and not even at the end, but in The New Prophecy, he's STILL an apprentice? I remember being really confused by one of the books where he had an apprentice, and having to double check, because in the previous book, he had been an apprentice, and then suddenly, he had an apprentice of his own? Speaking of which, I wonder if we'll see Rippletail as a kit in MS. Nothing to do with the topic, I know. Though, they could edit out Reedwhisker being the apprentice that nearly drowned to someone else. Mothwing was there. That would be cute. They'd probably change him to never being born that soon in the reprints of the first series
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 19, 2020 14:17:11 GMT -5
Not sure if that counts but for some reason Shadepelt was 'too old to travel' in Dawn even though she's younger than Mistyfoot. She was Stonefur's apprentice in TPB, so she's also younger than Silverstream, Graystripe and Fireheart. How the heck is she too old in Dawn?
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 19, 2020 14:20:12 GMT -5
Speaking of which, I wonder if we'll see Rippletail as a kit in MS. Nothing to do with the topic, I know. Though, they could edit out Reedwhisker being the apprentice that nearly drowned to someone else. Mothwing was there. That would be cute. They'd probably change him to never being born that soon in the reprints of the first series I don't know what they changed in the reprints. He's clearly still Mistystar's son and MO finally gave us littermates for him. I think it was supposed to be him and Pikepaw that Firestar and Graystripe saved. It's been a while since I read FOS but I'm pretty sure one kit was black and the other gray. Both had blue eyes. Though Reedwhisker is listed on the wiki with gray eyes and Perchkit (who also has black fur) has green eyes. Still, pretty sure that kit was confirmed as Reedwhisker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 14:32:24 GMT -5
That would be cute. They'd probably change him to never being born that soon in the reprints of the first series I don't know what they changed in the reprints. He's clearly still Mistystar's son and MO finally gave us littermates for him. I think it was supposed to be him and Pikepaw that Firestar and Graystripe saved. It's been a while since I read FOS but I'm pretty sure one kit was black and the other gray. Both had blue eyes. Though Reedwhisker is listed on the wiki with gray eyes and Perchkit (who also has black fur) has green eyes. Still, pretty sure that kit was confirmed as Reedwhisker. I was making a joke, because of how they changed Thornclaw to Mousewhisker in the reprints of The Last Hope, even though it makes wayyy less sense, than whatever plot-hole caused them to change it. I still find it interesting, how Reedwhisker was the only one without a P name, and he was the only one who lived.
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 19, 2020 18:16:39 GMT -5
That would be cute. They'd probably change him to never being born that soon in the reprints of the first series IIt's been a while since I read FOS but I'm pretty sure one kit was black and the other gray. Both had blue eyes. Though Reedwhisker is listed on the wiki with gray eyes and Perchkit (who also has black fur) has green eyes. Don't all kittens have blue eyes or something until they're a few weeks old? That could be it, since Reedwhisker's dark gray eyes were described in Mistystar's Omen when he's an adult.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 18:18:21 GMT -5
IIt's been a while since I read FOS but I'm pretty sure one kit was black and the other gray. Both had blue eyes. Though Reedwhisker is listed on the wiki with gray eyes and Perchkit (who also has black fur) has green eyes. Don't all kittens have blue eyes or something until they're a few weeks old? That could be it, since Reedwhisker's dark gray eyes were described in Mistystar's Omen when he's an adult. If they used that logic in the books, then Greeneyes got her name pretty late in life lol
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Mar 20, 2020 17:13:12 GMT -5
Don't all kittens have blue eyes or something until they're a few weeks old? That could be it, since Reedwhisker's dark gray eyes were described in Mistystar's Omen when he's an adult.ย If they used that logic in the books, then Greeneyes got her name pretty late in life lol Yeah yeah they donโt use that logic at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 18:48:15 GMT -5
If they used that logic in the books, then Greeneyes got her name pretty late in life lol Yeah yeah they donโt use that logic at all. Another thing that I found weird, is that when Bluestar and Snowfur were only like ONE day old, they were running around and exploring, but in just about every other case, kits seemed to talk awhile before they started running around and exploring. Also, is it just me, or did Birchfall get weaned SUPER late? The last sister of his to die, was like three moons old, and kittens usually start eating solid food when they're younger than that, but there was a scene, where he had to have Cody chew up food for him, because he wasn't able to eat it yet. I guess it makes sense, since prey was scarce, and it was readily available for him to eat then, or something? Idk, it just seems like he was weaned pretty late.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Mar 20, 2020 22:14:08 GMT -5
The SkyClan timeline is my biggest pet peeve. FQ takes place between OS and TNP. SD takes place in the FQ-Midnight timeskip. SATS is around Dawn-Starlight. Then RF happens at an unknown time. Cherrytail's kits are somewhat young apprentices, so unless her first litter poofed, RF is about LW. And then we suddenly go from the LW-TS timeskip to the BS-TAQ timeskip?
So either Cherrytail lost her first litter and no surviving kits were born between Leafstar's kits and her second litter, or the timeline is inaccurate. Unsurprisingly, I believe the latter.
As a massive SkyClan fan, this mess of a timeline p*sses me off frankly. SkyClan deserved so much better.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 20, 2020 22:30:07 GMT -5
The SkyClan timeline is my biggest pet peeve. FQ takes place between OS and TNP. SD takes place in the FQ-Midnight timeskip. SATS is around Dawn-Starlight. Then RF happens at an unknown time. Cherrytail's kits are somewhat young apprentices, so unless her first litter poofed, RF is about LW. And then we suddenly go from the LW-TS timeskip to the BS-TAQ timeskip? ... Am I the only one completely baffled by all these abbreviations?
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Post by Mistybreeze on Mar 21, 2020 2:38:54 GMT -5
The SkyClan timeline is my biggest pet peeve. FQ takes place between OS and TNP. SD takes place in the FQ-Midnight timeskip. SATS is around Dawn-Starlight. Then RF happens at an unknown time. Cherrytail's kits are somewhat young apprentices, so unless her first litter poofed, RF is about LW. And then we suddenly go from the LW-TS timeskip to the BS-TAQ timeskip? ... Am I the only one completely baffled by all these abbreviations?Firestar's Quest, Original Series (now The Prophecies Begin), SkyClan's Destiny, SkyClan and the Stranger, Ravenpaw's Farewell, Leafpool's Wish, The Sight, Bramblestar's Storm, and The Apprentice's Quest. I used abbreviations to streamline my post since it would have added several more lines to my post and I didn't feel like typing out all of the titles. Plus I assumed most would be able to figure out which books I was referring to as none share an acronym with another book. I'm always happy to explain if anyone is ever confused. I always use acronyms when I can.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 21, 2020 4:28:33 GMT -5
... Am I the only one completely baffled by all these abbreviations?Firestar's Quest, Original Series (now The Prophecies Begin), SkyClan's Destiny, SkyClan and the Stranger, Ravenpaw's Farewell, Leafpool's Wish, The Sight, Bramblestar's Storm, and The Apprentice's Quest. I used abbreviations to streamline my post since it would have added several more lines to my post and I didn't feel like typing out all of the titles. Plus I assumed most would be able to figure out which books I was referring to as none share an acronym with another book. I'm always happy to explain if anyone is ever confused. I always use acronyms when I can. You're good, sorry. I just totally forgot that Ravenpaw's Farewell and Bramblestar's Storm existed. I also almost never see the Sight abbreviated, so my mind just kind of broke. I blame the pandemic stress.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Mar 21, 2020 12:14:29 GMT -5
the kits being able to run around and talk the day they're born. like i get its a fantasy series but come on
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Post by valleylight on Mar 21, 2020 13:13:36 GMT -5
How inconsistent charactersโ personalities can be. It feels like, most of the time, any non-POV exists solely as a plot device. Their decisions and actions adhere to narrative needs first and foremost, regardless of the way theyโd normally (or even logically) act. Leaders seem especially susceptible to this treatment, since their decisions are so often used to drive large plot points. (Looking at you, Onestar, Firestar, and Bramblestar.)
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Mar 21, 2020 13:19:22 GMT -5
the kits being able to run around and talk the day they're born. like i get its a fantasy series but come on Yeah that makes no sense.
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Post by crowspirit on Mar 21, 2020 13:22:27 GMT -5
I haven't read any of the other comments yet so I'm probably just naming things that have already been mentioned. Also those things don't really annoy me, they're more funny to be honest.
-Every time Berrynose was described doing something with his non - existent tail. -Old Graystripe having dementia and calling Mistystar his daughter. -Ravepaw. -What is up with Boulder's origins? In Yellowfang's Secret he was originally from a rogue group, not BloodClan because Scourge didn't even exist back then, and in The Darkest Hour he's said to be a former BloodClan member? -Also, Boulder died from old age two series before Russetfur got smacked by Lionblaze even though he's older than her. -The Heavystep accident still makes me laugh to this day. -Thistleclaw's personality just changing from one book to another. Bluestar's Prophecy Thistleclaw is one of my favourite characters, the other ones...not so much.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Mar 21, 2020 19:33:27 GMT -5
I haven't read any of the other comments yet so I'm probably just naming things that have already been mentioned. Also those things don't really annoy me, they're more funny to be honest. -Every time Berrynose was described doing something with his non - existent tail. -Old Graystripe having dementia and calling Mistystar his daughter. -Ravepaw. -What is up with Boulder's origins? In Yellowfang's Secret he was originally from a rogue group, not BloodClan because Scourge didn't even exist back then, and in The Darkest Hour he's said to be a former BloodClan member? -Also, Boulder died from old age two series before Russetfur got smacked by Lionblaze even though he's older than her. -The Heavystep accident still makes me laugh to this day. -Thistleclaw's personality just changing from one book to another. Bluestar's Prophecy Thistleclaw is one of my favourite characters, the other ones...not so much. Clawface and Russetfur also suffer similar personality switches to Thistleclaw
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Post by fireflylanes on Mar 21, 2020 23:53:55 GMT -5
the shadowclan apprentice who fell off a cliff during the great journey showing up as a warrior two books later really annoys me for some reason rippletail showing up in tigerhearts shadow even though he's a kittypet at that point a good 4-5 years disappearing from the skyclan timeline?? whitewing being an apprentice for way too long, i think it was almost a year?? brighthearts second litter is shown to be apprenticed before sorreltails kits even though they're younger, and then in another book lilypaw and seedpaw are apprentices while brighthearts kits are still in the nursery on another note: lilyheart and snowbush being together even though they're cousins and foster siblings inconsistencies with hollytufts mentor
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Mar 22, 2020 0:11:16 GMT -5
the shadowclan apprentice who fell off a cliff during the great journey showing up as a warrior two books later really annoys me for some reason rippletail showing up in tigerhearts shadow even though he's a kittypet at that point a good 4-5 years disappearing from the skyclan timeline?? whitewing being an apprentice for way too long, i think it was almost a year?? brighthearts second litter is shown to be apprenticed before sorreltails kits even though they're younger, and then in another book lilypaw and seedpaw are apprentices while brighthearts kits are still in the nursery on another note: lilyheart and snowbush being together even though they're cousins and foster siblings inconsistencies with hollytufts mentor Some of these aren't really inconsistencies. I'm pretty sure Smokepaw (the apprentice you're referring to) is actually supposed to be a different cat from Smokefoot. Part of the reason for why Whitewing was an apprentice for as long as she was is because she didn't want Birchpaw to be alone. This even gets addressed at some point. Now, if you're referring to her still being an apprentice by the time Squirrelflight and Leafpool get introduced in Midnight despite being older than them, then yes. That's definitely an inconsistency, though I think Whitewing was originally supposed to be younger than Firestar's kits until FQ came out. Snowbush and Lilyheart being mates isn't even an inconsistency because most of the pairings in this series are already related to each other one way or another anyway. They're forbidden from mating with outsiders, inbreeding is to be expected and the Erins clearly didn't think of the implications when they were coming up with the warrior code. According to Kate, she thinks that Cloudtail was originally Hollytuft's mentor, but gave her to Blossomfall because maybe he thought that she would be a better match for her skillet.
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Post by porridgeho on Aug 11, 2020 20:15:27 GMT -5
Mistystar being Graystripe's daughter. Bramblestar's Storm Yeah :/ It also annoys me because I had the print before they changed it, but my dad threw it out. I'm never getting that book back and it really makes me mad. Try looking in thrift/used book stores! I didn't even know this error was a thing when I bought Bramblestar's Storm on thriftbooks (and just happened to get a copy with the error) so imagine my horror at the mistake lol.
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Post by porridgeho on Aug 11, 2020 20:21:15 GMT -5
I agree with cats magically coming back to life. I hate it when that happens. Heavystep, Beetlewhisker and Clawface are the ones that come to mind. It took me forever to read Tigerclaw's Fury because of that mistake. And Beetlewhisker all of a sudden being a mentor? Ha ha, no. I'm going with Sneezecloud being Harelight's mentor instead. That's who it is in the Norwegian version of the books. The Clawface thing is exactly what drew me to this thread!!! I just started Tigerclaw's Fury (I'm an inconsistent reader and will take months-long breaks from this series so I'm super behind on books) and I kept getting this feeling while reading about Clawface that this wasn't right because I felt like he should already be dead (and it's been awhile since I've read TPB so I couldn't remember for certain). I started heatedly flipping through Forest of Secrets and Fire and Ice to try to find his death scene and sure enough Graystripe killed Clawface in Fire and Ice, just like I thought, yet suddenly he's alive and well in Tigerclaw's Fury, even though that takes place after Forest of Secrets??? What are the Erins even doing at this point?
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Post by Brindlefern on Aug 11, 2020 20:37:28 GMT -5
porridgeho The thread's months old bruh. We have a necro rule around here. If it's a month old, don't post, it's in the warning/note at the top when you hit these old threads.
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