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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 14:18:53 GMT -5
Here are some more more than likely unpopular opinions that I have. Some people might agree with me, and that's great, but others won't, and that's fine too.
Anyway, here are the unpopular opinions, feel free to add your own.
1. Tallstar isn't that great. A better explanation is on the second page, than the one I had on here before.
2. Bluestar didn't deserve to be deputy. Not only did she break the code by having kits with someone outside of her clan, but she broke the code even more by putting kits in danger, and sadly, one of them ended up dying. She took kits out in the middle of the night in LEAFBARE, in the heavy snow...if that's not irresponsible, I don't know what is. I know she did it for the good of the clan, but what about the good of those kits?
3. I prefer the older ShadowClan, like the ones from Yellowfang's Secret and Into the Wild, to the ShadowClan that there is now. The old ShadowClan had something special about them, that the current ShadowClan just doesn't have. The current ShadowClan just seems like a bunch of whiners, without the skills to back up their threats.
4. I don't mind medicine cat POVS or ThunderClan POVs, however, I do wish there would be a RiverClan or a WindClan POV in the main books, instead of JUST having the forest clans. They haven't had a RiverClan POV in the main books since Stormfur and Feathertail (though, I don't remember her POV), and I don't think there has ever been a WindClan POV in the main books.
5. Wolfstep was probably worse than his sister. Like Foxheart, he was very arrogant, and always ready to fight as an apprentice, the only difference is, he wasn't in love with Raggedstar, so he had no reason to act snarky towards Yellowfang. (not that Foxheart did, but you know how jealousy can make the characters act in this series) However, he agreed with Brokenstar about training kits less than six moons old, and I think that's pretty scummy of him. He's had some non-scumbag moments, but I don't think he was any better than his sister, who is one of the most hated cats in Yellowfang's Secret. Also, I said he was probably worse than Foxheart, because she died before Brokenstar became leader, but if she agreed with his actions, then she would have been worse than Wolfstep.
That's all I can think of for now
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Mar 3, 2020 15:24:06 GMT -5
I agree on Tallstar not being so great. He's average imo.
I also think it's pretty amusing that we don't even know what Wolfstep looks like. Because I don't ever remember the book describing his looks?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 16:34:55 GMT -5
I agree on Tallstar not being so great. He's average imo. I also think it's pretty amusing that we don't even know what Wolfstep looks like. Because I don't ever remember the book describing his looks? All he's described as is "A tom with a torn ear." His description isn't as bad as Deerfoot's though, which just says, "Deerfoot is a tom." What makes things worse, is that even though Deerfoot had a major part in Tigerclaw's Fury, this poor boy isn't even listed in the allegiances, he has never been listed in the allegiances. All of his siblings have, but not poor Deerfoot. I like to imagine that he's brown with a white belly like Lizardstripe, but he also has white legs, taking after Mudclaw. Mudclaw is grey with brown legs, but it's still similar, since his legs would be a different color than his body lol
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Mar 3, 2020 19:21:10 GMT -5
I agree on Tallstar not being so great. He's average imo. I also think it's pretty amusing that we don't even know what Wolfstep looks like. Because I don't ever remember the book describing his looks? All he's described as is "A tom with a torn ear." His description isn't as bad as Deerfoot's though, which just says, "Deerfoot is a tom." What makes things worse, is that even though Deerfoot had a major part in Tigerclaw's Fury, this poor boy isn't even listed in the allegiances, he has never been listed in the allegiances. All of his siblings have, but not poor Deerfoot. I like to imagine that he's brown with a white belly like Lizardstripe, but he also has white legs, taking after Mudclaw. Mudclaw is grey with brown legs, but it's still similar, since his legs would be a different color than his body lol For some reason I kept thinking Deerfoot was a brown tabby with green eyes. I also think of Wolfstep as a stocky tabby with big paws
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 19:34:23 GMT -5
All he's described as is "A tom with a torn ear." His description isn't as bad as Deerfoot's though, which just says, "Deerfoot is a tom." What makes things worse, is that even though Deerfoot had a major part in Tigerclaw's Fury, this poor boy isn't even listed in the allegiances, he has never been listed in the allegiances. All of his siblings have, but not poor Deerfoot. I like to imagine that he's brown with a white belly like Lizardstripe, but he also has white legs, taking after Mudclaw. Mudclaw is grey with brown legs, but it's still similar, since his legs would be a different color than his body lol For some reason I kept thinking Deerfoot was a brown tabby with green eyes. I also think of Wolfstep as a stocky tabby with big paws That'd be cute ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Maybe Wolfstep is a grey tabby?
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Post by platinum blond death on Mar 3, 2020 19:54:59 GMT -5
Here are some more more than likely unpopular opinions that I have. Some people might agree with me, and that's great, but others won't, and that's fine too. Anyway, here are the unpopular opinions, feel free to add your own. 1. Tallstar isn't that great. Not even counting his SE, or the Onestar thing, he's...not. A lot of people act like he was one of the best leaders ever, and while he was better than most, I don't think he was that great. Like, he made Owlwhisker an apprentice before he was 6 moons old. 2. Bluestar didn't deserve to be deputy. Not only did she break the code by having kits with someone outside of her clan, but she broke the code even more by putting kits in danger, and sadly, one of them ended up dying. She took kits out in the middle of the night in LEAFBARE, in the heavy snow...if that's not irresponsible, I don't know what is. I know she did it for the good of the clan, but what about the good of those kits? 3. I prefer the older ShadowClan, like the ones from Yellowfang's Secret and Into the Wild, to the ShadowClan that there is now. The old ShadowClan had something special about them, that the current ShadowClan just doesn't have. The current ShadowClan just seems like a bunch of whiners, without the skills to back up their threats. 4. I don't mind medicine cat POVS or ThunderClan POVs, however, I do wish there would be a RiverClan or a WindClan POV in the main books, instead of JUST having the forest clans. They haven't had a RiverClan POV in the main books since Stormfur and Feathertail (though, I don't remember her POV), and I don't think there has ever been a WindClan POV in the main books. 5. Wolfstep was probably worse than his sister. Like Foxheart, he was very arrogant, and always ready to fight as an apprentice, the only difference is, he wasn't in love with Raggedstar, so he had no reason to act snarky towards Yellowfang. (not that Foxheart did, but you know how jealousy can make the characters act in this series) However, he agreed with Brokenstar about training kits less than six moons old, and I think that's pretty scummy of him. He's had some non-scumbag moments, but I don't think he was any better than his sister, who is one of the most hated cats in Yellowfang's Secret. Also, I said he was probably worse than Foxheart, because she died before Brokenstar became leader, but if she agreed with his actions, then she would have been worse than Wolfstep. That's all I can think of for now 1. Tallstar wasn't the worst, but he definitely wasn't the best. I like him but he's not my favorite leader. (That honor belongs to Riverstar). The Onestar thing was his fault, but his mind might've been a bit muddled. He seemed frantic to appoint Onewhisker deputy (and therefore leader) but idk if those visions of Mudclaw were accurate at all. The future of Onestar definitely wasn't. 2. I don't get why Thistleclaw as deputy would've been bad. He wasn't the worst cat ever, and Bluefur could've asked someone else to look after her kits while she did deputy stuff (but still save time for them). Risking your kits lives just for a position is downright stupid. 3. ShadowClan right now is just a mess. They need to find a new Clan to pick on for the next few arcs. Although I do agree, what the hell was up with the new ShadowClan cats? A lot of them are whiny and seem out to undermine anyone in a position of authority. Especially Scorchfur, he grated me a lot. 4. Oh, I agree. RiverClan is my favorite Clan, they deserve more love. As for WindClan POVs, I think Crowfeather had some in NP. 5. I blocked YS out of my mind. Catch me reading that during my Warriors reread because I like torturing myself.
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Post by platinum blond death on Mar 3, 2020 20:02:25 GMT -5
some unpopular opinions no one asked for 1. Rowanstar was a terrible leader. He was indecisive, and couldn't hold his Clan together. Mind you, his Clanmates were not helping at all, nor the apprentices, but if he has no hold on his Clan, that says a lot about both him and his Clan. Even though ShadowClan abandoned StarClan at one point they still stayed together mostly.
2. Sol was better without his backstory. I liked him as a mysterious cat who seemed to know everything, and not someone who was out to spite the Clans because of something and also had parents who abandoned him. I still love SkyClan and the Stranger but perhaps leave out the tragic backstory. Although that picture of Sol stamping his foot and throwing a tantrum is still gold. I love that so much.
3. Dovewing seems a bit immature. Idk, she doesn't seem to have a grasp on consequences yet.
4. Alderheart in DN annoyed me quite a bit.
5. Lizardstripe and Rainflower should've gone to the DF. Both were terrible mothers who abused their kits (Lizardstripe: foster kit), showed them no love, and in the case of Lizardstripe, caused physical harm. Good for Shellheart for breaking up with Rainflower.
6. Sandgorse was a terrible father. Not supporting your son's wishes and treating him terribly because he wants to go a different path puts him pretty high on my "Bad Parents List."
i think that's it i might have some more idk
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 20:05:27 GMT -5
platinum blond deathDid Crowfeather have a POV? I don't remember it. If he did, I think it should have been during the WindClan civil war. One thing that annoys me, is that Tallstar had that dream about Mudclaw..but in his SE, he had dreams of Sandgorse telling him to kill Sparrow, and to avenge him, but when he was getting his nine lives, that wasn't what Sandgorse wanted at all. And he just believes this dream he had about Mudclaw, without even thinking about what happened with Sandgorse and Sparrow, and how it might not even be reliable? Not to mention, there were WAY more qualified cats than Onewhisker..like Tornear for example, if he thought Mudclaw was too much. He only chose Onewhisker because of his friendship with Firestar. He didn't give a crap about WindClan, he just cared about keeping the buffest clan in the forest as their allies. I'm sorry, that was harsh, and probably not accurate, but it just irritates me, that the only reason Onestar got chose over a much more capable cat, was because he was friends with Firestar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 20:08:36 GMT -5
platinum blond deathI completely agree with number 5 and 4 somewhat. I'm not sure why you found Alderheart annoying, but I found him annoying, because he got HUGE crushes on every non-ThunderClan she-cat he met. Okay, it was only two, but that's two too many! Can there be ONE ThunderClan medicine cat that doesn't fall in love? I know he didn't act on his crushes, but still. The Sol tantrum thing cracks me up too XD
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Post by Mayflower on Mar 3, 2020 20:14:13 GMT -5
3. I prefer the older ShadowClan, like the ones from Yellowfang's Secret and Into the Wild, to the ShadowClan that there is now. The old ShadowClan had something special about them, that the current ShadowClan just doesn't have. The current ShadowClan just seems like a bunch of whiners, without the skills to back up their threats. I can't think of any unpopular opinions off the top of my head, but I just wanted to say that you just perfectly explained my problem with current ShC. I could never figure out how to word it until I read this! ;p The ShC that we had from TPB and TNP (and a little of PO3, and barely any from OOTS, imo) were actually threatening and often felt like a big problem. Sure, they could be bullies, but they were entertaining bullies. You never knew where you stood with them. Right now, they're just really annoying. I used to be annoyed by them back during the arcs I mentioned, of course, but it also more like, "They're about to cause issues and battle. Here we go...let's buckle up for some excitement!" because like you said, they backed up their threats. Current day ShC is so...blah. When cats from the Clan are in scenes, all I think is, "Oh my goddddddd. Gtfo. Can we go back to the other Clans now, pls?" and it's so frustrating. It isn't about the characters from there, either, because Violetshine had my favorite POV in AVOS, and I also like Shadowsight's POV. I enjoy some characters there, too, such as Cloverfoot, Puddleshine, etc. But their environment is just frustrating and bleak, even though things have improved since AVOS...Violetshine's POV, and now Shadowsight's, is the only thing that made the chapters mostly set in ShC territory bearable for me, though I didn't enjoy Shadowsight's chapters as much in The Silent Thaw as I did in Lost Stars. They're really missing the spark that made them who they were.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 20:20:05 GMT -5
3. I prefer the older ShadowClan, like the ones from Yellowfang's Secret and Into the Wild, to the ShadowClan that there is now. The old ShadowClan had something special about them, that the current ShadowClan just doesn't have. The current ShadowClan just seems like a bunch of whiners, without the skills to back up their threats. I can't think of any unpopular opinions off the top of my head, but I just wanted to say that you just perfectly explained my problem with current ShC. I could never figure out how to word it until I read this! ;p The ShC that we had from TPB and TNP (and a little of PO3, and barely any from OOTS, imo) were actually threatening and often felt like a big problem. Sure, they could be bullies, but they were entertaining bullies. You never knew where you stood with them. Right now, they're just really annoying. I used to be annoyed by them back during the arcs I mentioned, of course, but it also more like, "They're about to cause issues and battle. Here we go...let's buckle up for some excitement!" because like you said, they backed up their threats. Current day ShC is so...blah. When cats from the Clan are in scenes, all I think is, "Oh my goddddddd. Gtfo. Can we go back to the other Clans now, pls?" and it's so frustrating. It isn't about the characters from there, either, because Violetshine had my favorite POV in AVOS, and I also like Shadowsight's POV. I enjoy some characters there, too, such as Cloverfoot, Puddleshine, etc. But their environment is just frustrating and bleak, even though things have improved since AVOS...Violetshine's POV, and now Shadowsight's, is the only thing that made the chapters mostly set in ShC territory bearable for me, though I didn't enjoy Shadowsight's chapters as much in The Silent Thaw as I did in Lost Stars. They're really missing the spark that made them who they were. Yeah, that's true, I think part of what's missing from their aesthetic is their territory. In the old territory, they lived on marshes, and by the carrion place...and now apparently, they "can't hunt in marshes". They never get mentioned as stinking anymore, which is also a bit sad, because that was also a huge part of who they were lol. Do they even silently stalk anymore? Shadowsight is currently my favorite POV character in TBC ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) As for AVOS, Violetshine was probably my least favorite, I honestly didn't give a darn about Needletail or their weird relationship. But that's just my opinion lol. I think my favorite POV was Twigbranch's in that series
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 3, 2020 22:38:00 GMT -5
-SkyClan was better off at the gorge. They were so unique and interesting there. -I agree about ShadowClan. They seem less like they used to be. -I don't mind ThunderClan POV's either. It's also pretty cool to see POV's from the other clans. -Now that I think about it, I don't mind Scourge being the final villain in TPB. I see his coming to the forest was another one of Tigerstar's failed plans, like the dog pack that was also in one book.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 22:40:17 GMT -5
-SkyClan was better off at the gorge. They were so unique and interesting there. -I agree about ShadowClan. They seem less like they used to be. -I don't mind ThunderClan POV's either. It's also pretty cool to see POV's from the other clans. -Now that I think about it, I don't mind Scourge being the final villain in TPB. I see his coming to the forest was another one of Tigerstar's failed plans, like the dog pack that was also in one book. I actually really liked BloodClan, when I saw the blood and water prophecy from I think the second series? I got excited, because I thought BloodClan was returning lol
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 3, 2020 22:49:09 GMT -5
-SkyClan was better off at the gorge. They were so unique and interesting there. -I agree about ShadowClan. They seem less like they used to be. -I don't mind ThunderClan POV's either. It's also pretty cool to see POV's from the other clans. -Now that I think about it, I don't mind Scourge being the final villain in TPB. I see his coming to the forest was another one of Tigerstar's failed plans, like the dog pack that was also in one book. I actually really liked BloodClan, when I saw the blood and water prophecy from I think the second series? I got excited, because I thought BloodClan was returning lol BloodClan was okay. It was different enough from the other clans. Are you talking about the lake will run red prophecy from TNP? I'd never had BloodClan on my mind when I saw it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 22:52:50 GMT -5
I actually really liked BloodClan, when I saw the blood and water prophecy from I think the second series? I got excited, because I thought BloodClan was returning lol BloodClan was okay. It was different enough from the other clans. Are you talking about the lake will run red prophecy from TNP? I'd never had BloodClan on my mind when I saw it. Yeah, this one "Before there is peace, blood will spill blood, and the lake will run red." Okay, reading it now, I have no idea how I got BloodClan out of it either, I guess because it had the word blood in it, and I was still really hyped up from them, because I had JUST finished the first series, before reading the second one.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 3, 2020 23:06:14 GMT -5
BloodClan was okay. It was different enough from the other clans. Are you talking about the lake will run red prophecy from TNP? I'd never had BloodClan on my mind when I saw it. Yeah, this one "Before there is peace, blood will spill blood, and the lake will run red." Okay, reading it now, I have no idea how I got BloodClan out of it either, I guess because it had the word blood in it, and I was still really hyped up from them, because I had JUST finished the first series, before reading the second one. That's understandable. There definitely is blood in the prophecy, so I'm not surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 23:07:16 GMT -5
Yeah, this one "Before there is peace, blood will spill blood, and the lake will run red." Okay, reading it now, I have no idea how I got BloodClan out of it either, I guess because it had the word blood in it, and I was still really hyped up from them, because I had JUST finished the first series, before reading the second one. That's understandable. There definitely is blood in the prophecy, so I'm not surprised. Well, it makes me glad you don't think I'm an idiot lol
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 3, 2020 23:35:47 GMT -5
That's understandable. There definitely is blood in the prophecy, so I'm not surprised. Well, it makes me glad you don't think I'm an idiot lol You've never been an idiot in my opinion. :3
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Post by Brindlefern on Mar 4, 2020 0:54:07 GMT -5
4. As for WindClan POVs, I think Crowfeather had some in NP. Nope. Crow didn't have a PoV in TNP at all. Everyone except him and Tawny had at least one. Why? Idk, but huge missed opportunity to get into his head earlier.
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Post by Fernstep on Mar 4, 2020 1:33:03 GMT -5
1. Tallstar isn't that great. Not even counting his SE, or the Onestar thing, he's...not. A lot of people act like he was one of the best leaders ever, and while he was better than most, I don't think he was that great. Like, he made Owlwhisker an apprentice before he was 6 moons old. This really confused me, because I had no idea why a background character like Owlwhisker would have such a strange detail attached to their biography, or how this would have happened. So I looked it up. It turns out it's a wiki error. There's a scene at the start of Dawn where the travelling cats return to the forest, and they meet Owlpaw on WindClan territory, and Crowpaw says "But you can't be an apprentice, you're not even six moons old yet!" The point is that they've been away for so long that they don't realize how much time has passed—Owlpaw actually is six moons old. I let a wiki mod know and they'll fix it, so in a weird way I guess your post resulted in me catching an error! But also, you should probably fact-check things like this in the future instead of letting random facts that don't make sense affect your perception of a major character.
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Post by ᴄᴏɴɪ﹣ғᴇʀᴏᴜs on Mar 4, 2020 1:46:24 GMT -5
gonna get a lot of flack for this but 1. GraySilver isn't all that interesting or romantic. It is, on a surface level, an instance where two irresponsible people meet and inevitably end up in a Romeo and Juliet tragedy. This, I think, is partly because we don't actually know how Silverstream or Graystripe felt during the romance. It's devoid of communication and interaction from what we get. (in other words we don't see them talk because the entire book is in Fireheart's POV) I prefer GrayMillie because we get to see the buildup. 2. Sol is a real waste of writing. He had so much potential but no set goals about what he would do after destroying the clans. Personally his backstory was more fun to read because we get to see how outsiders viewed the clans. 3. I don't like Cinderpelt or Briarlight now as much as I did when I was a kid. On the other hand, I like Brightheart. Why? because we get to see Brightheart be a warrior and overcome her disability, whereas Cinderpelt and Briarlight get put in medicine cat duty because of their injuries. I can't wrap my head around how a deputy with a twisted foot existed in WindClan (Deadfoot), a clan whose primary trait is running, in the same time period ThunderClan puts their injured apprentice in the medicine den. How does that happen?! 4. Spottedleaf should have been a secondary villain. This isn't because I dislike Spottedleaf, but because of the amount of dreams she's in. She could have been used as a sympathetic, misguided villain - maybe passing on wrong messages from Thistleclaw or someone because she thinks she's doing good and she wants to help - and then realizing her mistakes and making up for it by actually spying on the DF, providing info for StarClan, and then sacrificing herself for her niece (because the entire 'she made him happy' reason is utterly incomprehensible) in the DF battle.
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Post by Woofzie on Mar 4, 2020 3:20:27 GMT -5
One thing that annoys me, is that Tallstar had that dream about Mudclaw..but in his SE, he had dreams of Sandgorse telling him to kill Sparrow, and to avenge him, but when he was getting his nine lives, that wasn't what Sandgorse wanted at all. I'm just re-reading Tallstar's Revenge and he never had dreams of Sandgorse telling him to kill Sparrow. He just said to Talltail that he'll always be a warrior, just that. Other than that, those dreams were only about Talltail reviving Sandgorse's death.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 7:41:36 GMT -5
*Ravenpaw*Thanks FernstepInitially, I thought it could have been Crowfeather not realizing what time had passed, or that he was bad at math, but then I did check Owlwhisker's wiki, and it said he'd been apprenticed before 6 moons of age, so, that's how I came to that conclusion lol. ᴄᴏɴɪ﹣ғᴇʀᴏᴜsI agree completely with number one 100% Also, number three..it Briarlight could have had much more potential than just some cat who spent all of her time in the medicine cat den..someone on here once said, that she could have been a guard for the camp entrance, and I think that's a fantastic idea. It's a good thing that Deadfoot's medicine cat AND deputy believed that he could be a warrior, rather than just sticking him in the medicine cat or elder's den. That Spottedleaf idea would have been really cool. WoofzieReally? I remember him having visions of Sandgorse being all like, "Avenge me." or something like that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 8:30:03 GMT -5
whitestorm isnt that great. hes just a boring old "im old and wise' type of character Whitestorm is like my third favorite character, because I like how nice and supportive he was of Firestar, but you have a point lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 8:49:38 GMT -5
I thought of more unpopular opinions
6. I don't really want a ThunderClan purge, but if there had to be one, I'd rather it be the cats who have been pretty much front and center, since the second arc, rather than the newer characters, who haven't even had much significance yet.
7. Feathertail isn't that great, she's just like a mix between Silverstream and Spottedleaf, who also aren't that great.
8. Scorchfur isn't that bad.
9. I don't mind the Tigerclones, I think it's fun to compare them all. (Strikestone is the prettiest Tigerclone)
10. I found Oakheart to be more likeable than Crookedstar (not him in Redtail's Debt, because he was possessed by Rainflower or something, because that was NOT Oakheart.)
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Post by mizzoctavia on Mar 4, 2020 9:47:22 GMT -5
I don't like Lionheart, mainly because of him saying "Do you stand down to a challenge?" (or something along those words) to Rusty when he first arrived to ThunderClan camp when Longtail was harassing him. I thought that the Leaders word was code, so why should it matter if he backs down from fighting someone just because they don't want him to join? Idk it just ticked me off a bit lol
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Post by mizzoctavia on Mar 4, 2020 9:48:39 GMT -5
TBC spoilers: I also liked Bumblestripe until he ratted out Squirrelflight and begged to become Deputy once she was banished.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 9:54:14 GMT -5
mizzoctaviaOh wow, I forgot about Lionheart doing that, I really liked him in the SEs and novellas, but I don't even remember him much from the main series lol I really liked Bumblestripe too before that, I loved how supportive he was of Briarlight. Also, when it came to Dovewing, I don't think he was that bad, he wasn't the one who was pushing her to be mates with him, Whitewing, Rosepetal, and some other cats were. He's not perfect, but I also don't think he should be classified as a "nice guy"
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Post by mizzoctavia on Mar 4, 2020 10:01:10 GMT -5
Yeah. Also Dovewing recently has come off as annoying to me for some reason. Mainly because she betrayed ThunderClan for Tigerheart but yeah.
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