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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Mar 16, 2017 22:36:35 GMT -5
I wish that we could have all of the technological advances we have today, but still have a culture like that of the 20s - 50s. Super classy people, music, movies, and T.V. that were popular without being 95% sex and stupidity, cars that were built for quality and not style, etc. I just wish that we could have singers like Frank Sinatra again who were immensely popular without having to strip naked, do drugs, and/or commit a crime. Now obviously we wouldn't go back to being racist, sexist, and homophobic as many people back then were, but there are elements of that era that I think we could still benefit from(namely the fact that people of the general public were generally classier and more respectful back then).
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Post by mickle on Mar 16, 2017 22:44:34 GMT -5
love me some of the great depression
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Post by Sour Candy on Mar 16, 2017 22:46:15 GMT -5
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Mar 16, 2017 22:48:15 GMT -5
mickle Except for that obviously lol
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Post by checkmate on Mar 16, 2017 22:48:24 GMT -5
love me some of the great depression I lol'd
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Post by alfred on Mar 16, 2017 22:48:40 GMT -5
so much yes. their attire was a lot more modest as well, i think. like, i probably wouldn't wear too many dresses but i think i could pull off overalls or suspenders and button down blouses quite well. it all looked really comfortable and reasonable.
a lot of people weren't as specialized in their work, too. meaning, they could still take care of themselves and fix things on a regular basis. we live in a consumer culture where things are made to be replaceable. back then, the small things were mostly durable and you wasted less. i kind of admire that sort of ingenuity.
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Mar 16, 2017 22:49:00 GMT -5
i think a fascination with sex is not a new thing for humanity tbh but i suppose i can understand Perhaps not, but our putting it on a pedastal and praising it like it's the only way to go nowadays is not.
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Post by falconfire on Mar 16, 2017 22:52:52 GMT -5
i think a fascination with sex is not a new thing for humanity tbh but i suppose i can understand Perhaps not, but our putting it on a pedastal and praising it like it's the only way to go nowadays is not. yeah i mean.. i'm asexual, and seeing a lot of stuff thru that lens is weird, when there's assumptions abt people having certain (usually straight) attractions and fascinations and stuff i support being, like, open about sexuality? letting people do what they want with who they want, assuming consent and stuff, but not forcing that culture onto people that don't want to be as sexual, idk. so i feel you i think
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Post by Sanders on Mar 16, 2017 22:57:25 GMT -5
honestly im okay with the movement of sex being more mainstream since i find it to be more of it becoming less taboo as a topic!! since sex isn't taboo at all and is something most people partake in and is fairly normal for people to want to do. and honestly, id prefer to keep it this way because even tho tv and stuff is mostly unrealistic, it's at least talking about it and since sex ed. is terribile (at least in america) it is a way to maybe bring up a conversation for a child/parent. there is no saving the children imo. so like. i don't want to go back to people not talking about it at all.
also idk much about cars but most cars are built for convenience i would say?? i mean i just learned that modern cars have a latch in the trunk to let you out. also they connect to your phone. they tell you when your tire pressure is low. they have all sorts of neat features to keep people safe nowadays! idk i don't really want to go back to a time when airbags and seatbelts weren't a thing in cars.
and honestly i don't care about frank sinatra in the slightest and i really like popular pop music and edm that is coming out these days. so that's really subjective.
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Post by mickle on Mar 16, 2017 22:58:37 GMT -5
honestly im okay with the movement of sex being more mainstream since i find it to be more of it becoming less taboo as a topic!! since sex isn't taboo at all and is something most people partake in and is fairly normal for people to want to do. and honestly, id prefer to keep it this way because even tho tv and stuff is mostly unrealistic, it's at least talking about it and since sex ed. is terribile (at least in america) it is a way to maybe bring up a conversation for a child/parent. there is no saving the children imo. so like. i don't want to go back to people not talking about it at all. also idk much about cars but most cars are built for convenience i would say?? i mean i just learned that modern cars have a latch in the trunk to let you out. also they connect to your phone. they tell you when your tire pressure is low. they have all sorts of neat features to keep people safe nowadays! idk i don't really want to go back to a time when airbags and seatbelts weren't a thing in cars. and honestly i don't care about frank sinatra in the slightest and i really like popular pop music and edm that is coming out these days. so that's really subjective. this is a wholesome post (´▽`) sanders
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:01:56 GMT -5
as a mentally ill lesbian italian, i'm gonna say screw the early twentieth century overall
though, i do love the aesthetic! 20s fashion was bomb af
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Post by alfred on Mar 16, 2017 23:31:04 GMT -5
i suppose what Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ is trying to say(and i could totally be wrong here so pardon me) but is having the benefits of the 20s-50s without any of the consequences? so that could still include a lot of what you prefer about today's standards as well. it also just really depends on what sort of aesthetic you prefer in fashion, reading, music, etc etc. like Sanders said, it's all subjective.
so, you'd still want the technological advances, generally accepting society, and mostly stable economy of today's standards. just with a flair of that era's aesthetic. something most might find modest and slightly more reliable.
also, on the whole TV & film thing. i generally prefer a more modern perspective if only because it feels more realistic and open-minded. most things viewed acceptable by today's standards would have had a sort of stigma surrounding it during the 20s-50s. women, POC had fewer roles and industries were very limited on what they could and couldn't show. great storytelling has no boundaries. it dares and tempts its viewers to think broadly and critically. not saying older films don't have that sort of thing, but a majority of it was relatively bigoted. and i also really enjoy watching things in color. that's been fun. x3 lastly, i kind of understand the whole sex and stupidity focus it's had of late. comedy films are just horrendous anymore and rarely can you find a film without some kind of romantic influence in it. like, there's ALWAYS a love interest of some kind. again, though, i guess that's just my preference. i'd love to see more platonic relationships or maybe just an absence of it every once in a while, and less slapstick humor.
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Mar 16, 2017 23:33:39 GMT -5
honestly im okay with the movement of sex being more mainstream since i find it to be more of it becoming less taboo as a topic!! since sex isn't taboo at all and is something most people partake in and is fairly normal for people to want to do. and honestly, id prefer to keep it this way because even tho tv and stuff is mostly unrealistic, it's at least talking about it and since sex ed. is terribile (at least in america) it is a way to maybe bring up a conversation for a child/parent. there is no saving the children imo. so like. i don't want to go back to people not talking about it at all. also idk much about cars but most cars are built for convenience i would say?? i mean i just learned that modern cars have a latch in the trunk to let you out. also they connect to your phone. they tell you when your tire pressure is low. they have all sorts of neat features to keep people safe nowadays! idk i don't really want to go back to a time when airbags and seatbelts weren't a thing in cars. and honestly i don't care about frank sinatra in the slightest and i really like popular pop music and edm that is coming out these days. so that's really subjective. People can be open about sex without having to strip down to nothing and have their stuff hanging out of their shirts all the time. My friends and I openly talk about sex and sexuality a lot, but at the same time we don't walk around half-naked. And like I said, I'd like to keep the same technology, so airbags and seatbelts would obviously still be there. I guess my earlier point was that I'm tired of music that's just sex, sex, drugs, drugs, alcohol, and more sex. 95% of popular songs today are about one or more of those things, and only about 5% actually have meaningful lyrics. I'm sick of it being "just about the beat". I want the days when people actually put thought into their lyrics. Eminem is one of the few popular artists to do that regularly nowadays.
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Mar 16, 2017 23:36:15 GMT -5
as a mentally ill lesbian italian, i'm gonna say screw the early twentieth century overall though, i do love the aesthetic! 20s fashion was bomb af As I said up in the OP, obviously we wouldn't have the same homophobic, racist, sexist, anti-everyone-who-is-not-a-white-Protestant-male attitude, since that's obviously not okay. As a bisexual person with OCD, I completely get your standing. I just really like the pop culture of that era, since there was a kind of classiness to it that culture nowadays lacks.
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Mar 16, 2017 23:41:12 GMT -5
i suppose what Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ is trying to say(and i could totally be wrong here so pardon me) but is having the benefits of the 20s-50s without any of the consequences? so that could still include a lot of what you prefer about today's standards as well. it also just really depends on what sort of aesthetic you prefer in fashion, reading, music, etc etc. like Sanders said, it's all subjective.
so, you'd still want the technological advances, generally accepting society, and mostly stable economy of today's standards. just with a flair of that era's aesthetic. something most might find modest and slightly more reliable.
also, on the whole TV & film thing. i generally prefer a more modern perspective if only because it feels more realistic and open-minded. most things viewed acceptable by today's standards would have had a sort of stigma surrounding it during the 20s-50s. women, POC had fewer roles and industries were very limited on what they could and couldn't show. great storytelling has no boundaries. it dares and tempts its viewers to think broadly and critically. not saying older films don't have that sort of thing, but a majority of it was relatively bigoted. and i also really enjoy watching things in color. that's been fun. x3 lastly, i kind of understand the whole sex and stupidity focus it's had of late. comedy films are just horrendous anymore and rarely can you find a film without some kind of romantic influence in it. like, there's ALWAYS a love interest of some kind. again, though, i guess that's just my preference. i'd love to see more platonic relationships or maybe just an absence of it every once in a while, and less slapstick humor.
Basically this, yeah. And I agree with the whole movies thing; I think what I meant was more along the lines of going back to making movies that didn't have to either rely on big action sequences or romance (coughfiftyshadescough) to sell. Movies back then (however conservative they were) could sell themselves by being original and by telling a great story. So while I'm perfectly fine with having things that were considered taboo back then, I'd like to have them be more "natural" instead of the plots of these movies revolving entirely around them. It just seems like a lot of movies these days sell themselves on being "explosive and sexy" instead of on "here's a great, unique story that's going to leave you speechless".
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Post by Sanders on Mar 16, 2017 23:49:24 GMT -5
alfred honestly on the more subjective front, i love dressing like a straight frat boy tho. i love tank tops. i love baggy shorts and board shorts. i LOVE LOVE LOVE snapbacks. so like dressing in a 20s-50s style just really isn't what im into (at least in summer). i mean in the winter i do clean up a little. more like a straight prep boy. but even that's pretty casual. Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ i mean showing sex and talking about sex aren't really the same thing? and most of the time people don't like talking about sex. but showing sex can open up a conversation. also being explicit about certain things can be good if you're trying to discover your sexuality and what kind of things you're into. i mean seeing (or reading) things happen and being like "man that's something i want" i feel like is a huge part of discovering the things that you're into. i mean how do you know what are things you can do without learning about them? and i mean like, walking around half naked i feel like is ?? a weird statement. like i don't know anybody who really does that in real life? but if somebody wants to show off their body then like so be it. just because you don't want to doesn't mean someone else can't. idk crop tops are hot af. my gf was wearing one earlier and even tho you could see her entire stomach is was a top notch 100% look. i could be missing your point so sorry if that's not what you meant. also idk i feel like there are songs that have meaningful lyrics nowadays. that song Rockabye by Clean Bandit is about single moms and it really makes me feel things? and it's also popular and has really good beats. and idk i think you can have meaningful lyrics that talk about love, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc. i mean all of carly rae jepsens' discography is about relationships and honestly i feel like they have meaning and are also mindless pop music. im not saying all music nowadays is great. but there are definitely good songs about there. and i mean there's nothing wrong with a song being just beats imo. it feels really nice listening to them. and i mean classical music is.... just music with no lyrics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:52:59 GMT -5
as a mentally ill lesbian italian, i'm gonna say screw the early twentieth century overall though, i do love the aesthetic! 20s fashion was bomb af As I said up in the OP, obviously we wouldn't have the same homophobic, racist, sexist, anti-everyone-who-is-not-a-white-Protestant-male attitude, since that's obviously not okay. As a bisexual person with OCD, I completely get your standing. I just really like the pop culture of that era, since there was a kind of classiness to it that culture nowadays lacks. oh okay then, i'm on board! this sounds strange, but sometimes i wish we didn't have such wild, great technology. it's definitely a grass is always greener situation, but i also kind of remember my childhood and how i wasn't always on a phone or computer and it's something i kind of miss. i miss reading all day and just sitting in my room and daydreaming. i know i can do that now, but now there's distractions all around me. i hope this makes sense?
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Post by Sanders on Mar 16, 2017 23:54:13 GMT -5
and like don't get me wrong i don't think all movies tv shows and songs need to be about romance and sex. i just don't think that it's fair to just write them off like they don't have meaning?
i mean currently there's a show running on abc with a gay main character (i don't think the show is that great for representation (tho it seems to be a little better)). he recently had a boyfriend and they broke up and i think it's important to show that. there aren't many like gay main characters that just have a relationship and that's so valuable. and i think shows that work in dating for younger characters is really important for teens/young adults to see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:55:30 GMT -5
i mean in the winter i do clean up a little. more like a straight prep boy. but even that's pretty casual. now i can't stop thinking of you looking like this
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Post by Sanders on Mar 16, 2017 23:56:27 GMT -5
i mean in the winter i do clean up a little. more like a straight prep boy. but even that's pretty casual. now i can't stop thinking of you looking like this honestly me but with long pants.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 16, 2017 23:57:27 GMT -5
as we near entering the 20's again, i vote we bring back the fashion
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:57:34 GMT -5
now i can't stop thinking of you looking like this honestly me but with long pants. sanders confirmed as (wannabe) frat boy
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Post by Sanders on Mar 16, 2017 23:57:41 GMT -5
As I said up in the OP, obviously we wouldn't have the same homophobic, racist, sexist, anti-everyone-who-is-not-a-white-Protestant-male attitude, since that's obviously not okay. As a bisexual person with OCD, I completely get your standing. I just really like the pop culture of that era, since there was a kind of classiness to it that culture nowadays lacks. oh okay then, i'm on board! this sounds strange, but sometimes i wish we didn't have such wild, great technology. it's definitely a grass is always greener situation, but i also kind of remember my childhood and how i wasn't always on a phone or computer and it's something i kind of miss. i miss reading all day and just sitting in my room and daydreaming. i know i can do that now, but now there's distractions all around me. i hope this makes sense? throw back thursday to when i would just literally run from tree to tree in my front yard for no reason
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Post by Sanders on Mar 16, 2017 23:58:16 GMT -5
honestly me but with long pants. sanders confirmed as (wannabe) frat boy when will the straights accept me as their own
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:58:53 GMT -5
the only thing i'd go back to the 1900s for is the cheap college and easy finding jobs
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Post by alfred on Mar 16, 2017 23:59:27 GMT -5
i suppose what Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ is trying to say(and i could totally be wrong here so pardon me) but is having the benefits of the 20s-50s without any of the consequences? so that could still include a lot of what you prefer about today's standards as well. it also just really depends on what sort of aesthetic you prefer in fashion, reading, music, etc etc. like Sanders said, it's all subjective.
so, you'd still want the technological advances, generally accepting society, and mostly stable economy of today's standards. just with a flair of that era's aesthetic. something most might find modest and slightly more reliable.
also, on the whole TV & film thing. i generally prefer a more modern perspective if only because it feels more realistic and open-minded. most things viewed acceptable by today's standards would have had a sort of stigma surrounding it during the 20s-50s. women, POC had fewer roles and industries were very limited on what they could and couldn't show. great storytelling has no boundaries. it dares and tempts its viewers to think broadly and critically. not saying older films don't have that sort of thing, but a majority of it was relatively bigoted. and i also really enjoy watching things in color. that's been fun. x3 lastly, i kind of understand the whole sex and stupidity focus it's had of late. comedy films are just horrendous anymore and rarely can you find a film without some kind of romantic influence in it. like, there's ALWAYS a love interest of some kind. again, though, i guess that's just my preference. i'd love to see more platonic relationships or maybe just an absence of it every once in a while, and less slapstick humor.
Basically this, yeah. And I agree with the whole movies thing; I think what I meant was more along the lines of going back to making movies that didn't have to either rely on big action sequences or romance (coughfiftyshadescough) to sell. Movies back then (however conservative they were) could sell themselves by being original and by telling a great story. So while I'm perfectly fine with having things that were considered taboo back then, I'd like to have them be more "natural" instead of the plots of these movies revolving entirely around them. It just seems like a lot of movies these days sell themselves on being "explosive and sexy" instead of on "here's a great, unique story that's going to leave you speechless". agreed. that totally makes sense. even those films which are supposed to be heartfelt and moving feel like they're more of an oscar-grab than anything else. they feel ingenuine a lot of the times and focus on exploiting your emotions just for decent ratings in the box office and that's totally not cool. however, not every film's that way!! it just feels as though the majority of today's storytelling is poorly thought through and largely manipulative.
my film prof. would have a ball arguing this. "they've lost heart."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 0:01:03 GMT -5
oh okay then, i'm on board! this sounds strange, but sometimes i wish we didn't have such wild, great technology. it's definitely a grass is always greener situation, but i also kind of remember my childhood and how i wasn't always on a phone or computer and it's something i kind of miss. i miss reading all day and just sitting in my room and daydreaming. i know i can do that now, but now there's distractions all around me. i hope this makes sense? throw back thursday to when i would just literally run from tree to tree in my front yard for no reason i'd ride my bicycle up and down the street in the heat with all of the other kids on my street for hours. we didn't even go anywhere, but we were content :')
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Post by Sanders on Mar 17, 2017 0:01:30 GMT -5
the only thing i'd go back to the 1900s for is the cheap college and easy finding jobs the only thing i want to bring back
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currently watching/reading/playing: haikyuu, avatar: the last airbender, animal crossing new horizon
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Post by falconfire on Mar 17, 2017 0:02:00 GMT -5
i don't know... there is still a lot of meaningful music out there? but maybe it's not very prevalent so i can understand feeling like there's nothing very deep on the radio or whatever.
and like the purpose of pop music is to be something fun, something to dance to. like i read something once talking about that, and how it's a formula that works even if it's a bit overused. you wouldn't say, like, 'wow, heart surgery is so boring nowadays, doctors need to be more creative' -- like it gets its job done i guess
obviously it's fine to like whatever music you want. idek how to describe my own music tastes personally aha i switch around a lot
maybe i'm just responding in this way because my tastes in music and entertainment are, like, entirely unrefined. i love action scenes with explosions and cool fighting and stuff, personally, and there aren't many old movies or books that really catch my interest so perhaps i'm kinda biased aha. and i don't want to try and sound 'edgy' but most mainstream tv and movies in the present don't hugely interest me either. like downton abbey, the walking dead, i just... can't bring myself to care, lol.
(this is also not meant to be an attack on you or anything-- no need to respond if you don't want to, aha)
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