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Post by Noface on Nov 16, 2016 4:00:25 GMT -5
Everyone used to hate him because he treated Firestar badly. But, now I like Onestar because he didn't give the medicine to Shadowclan.
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Nov 16, 2016 6:33:23 GMT -5
So . . . you're saying you like Onestar, specifically because he lacks morals?
That makes no sense, I'm sorry.
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Post by Noface on Nov 16, 2016 7:28:24 GMT -5
So . . . you're saying you like Onestar, specifically because he lacks morals? That makes no sense, I'm sorry. Pretty much. It would've been pretty interesting to see how it would turn out if the medicine wasn't stolen. I find it tense and interesting when there are cats like him.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 16, 2016 9:57:36 GMT -5
Pretty sure I still hate him, especially now.
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Post by Noface on Nov 16, 2016 9:58:34 GMT -5
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Nov 16, 2016 10:11:20 GMT -5
While I can understand why he has a grudge against ShadowClan, I honestly still hate him lol. He pretty much put the final straw down for ShadowClan, and inevitably caused them to fully join the rogues.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 16, 2016 10:14:15 GMT -5
While I can understand why he has a grudge against ShadowClan, I honestly still hate him lol. He pretty much put the final straw down for ShadowClan, and inevitably caused them to fully join the rogues. Pretty much. And you know he's even more in the wrong when his own warriors, one being his deputy, goes against hist orders and helps them anyways. His own cats are turning on him, thinking he's going senile. Imo, Onestar should have never been leader in the first place, not even Mudclaw would have been that terrible.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Nov 16, 2016 10:16:53 GMT -5
While I can understand why he has a grudge against ShadowClan, I honestly still hate him lol. He pretty much put the final straw down for ShadowClan, and inevitably caused them to fully join the rogues. Pretty much. And you know he's even more in the wrong when his own warriors, one being his deputy, goes against hist orders and helps them anyways. His own cats are turning on him, thinking he's going senile. Imo, Onestar should have never been leader in the first place, not even Mudclaw would have been that terrible. I agree. He's losing his edge, I think, because of stress and age. He's basically a Bluestar 2.0 at this point. While I do agree that he made WindClan strong again, and served them well as their leader, he is just at his end by now. He needs to join StarClan so Hareleap can take over.
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Post by Noface on Nov 16, 2016 10:18:17 GMT -5
While I can understand why he has a grudge against ShadowClan, I honestly still hate him lol. He pretty much put the final straw down for ShadowClan, and inevitably caused them to fully join the rogues. Pretty much. And you know he's even more in the wrong when his own warriors, one being his deputy, goes against hist orders and helps them anyways. His own cats are turning on him, thinking he's going senile. Imo, Onestar should have never been leader in the first place, not even Mudclaw would have been that terrible. Mudclaw wasn't evil, it was Tallstar's misinterpretation. I didn't like it when Onestar was rude to Firestar, because Firestar didn't deserve it at all. But, I do think it's rather interesting that he hates Shadowclan and doesn't help them. I find the plot more intense if the clans go at war with each other instead of always keeping peace. Just like old times.
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Post by mEmE on Nov 16, 2016 11:36:20 GMT -5
Onestar seems like a pretty good representation of what the warrior clan would be like if it existed in real life
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 12:29:06 GMT -5
While I can understand why he has a grudge against ShadowClan, I honestly still hate him lol. He pretty much put the final straw down for ShadowClan, and inevitably caused them to fully join the rogues. It was also unnecessary to start a battle with ThunderClan in Eclipse.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 12:31:52 GMT -5
To be honest I still haven't forgiven him for what he did in Eclipse.
I acknowledge that he was a decent leader for his clan, but I don't think ThunderClan cats deserved to almost be killed for his clan to be strong. Spiderleg and Squirrelflight would have likely died had the battle gone any longer. And for what? So his clan would obey his orders?
The only reason I don't outrightly hate him is because I'm still clinging onto the hope that WindClan were massive jerks and forced him to be a jerk as well if he still wanted to be leader.
Imo tho if I were Onestar, when Mudclaw rebelled I would have been out of there in an instant. No point in defending a position I didn't deserve, let alone lead cats that tried to kill me. Wouldn't be worth it to me.
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Post by pastelpills on Nov 16, 2016 13:48:20 GMT -5
Nah, still hate him.
I mean, I can relate to him to some level? It's kind of justified for him to be rude to Firestar, but trying to drive ThunderClan our and being straight up disrespectful was step over the line.
And don't even get me started on him in AVOS, dear lord.
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Post by andy on Nov 16, 2016 16:45:32 GMT -5
i still hate him. he does things for no good reason and him refusing shadowclan the herbs played a giant part in them turning to the rogues. if he hadn't they'd probably still have stayed a normal Clan for the most part.
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Post by Frozen on Nov 16, 2016 16:47:52 GMT -5
Onestar is disgusting. Can't wait for Harespring to be leader, I'm really happy with him in AVOS so far.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Nov 16, 2016 18:02:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like Onestar either… I wonder what happened to make his personality change so drastic… It won't be long before Windclan becomes just like Shadowclan, fully rebelling against their own leader and maybe joining the rogues… It's clear they don't like him and “Clan leader’s word is law” hasn't stopped anyone from punishing or driving out their own leader before… (Looking mainly at Shadowclan, but it was also supposed to happen to Thunderclan in one of the drafts for The Last Hope).
If anything, I wish the Erins would tell us what caused his personality change. Is it the stress of leadership? Having a position he felt he didn't deserve or was it ready for? It's not so much that his personality changed rather than it changed and we have no idea why…
And what's with all the leaders going crazy when they're older… Bluestar was understandable, given her past, but now it's become almost like a fad… And with no good reason, either…
I do agree that Onestar does set up some interesting plot points, such as what Shadowclan might have done if the medicine wasn't stolen, or what happens when every single cat in a clan defies their leader (including the deputy), but that doesn't mean I necessarily agree with what he has become.
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Post by Yoshimi on Nov 16, 2016 18:08:49 GMT -5
Ha, I like Onestar.
He is number 1!
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Post by Noface on Nov 16, 2016 20:59:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like Onestar either… I wonder what happened to make his personality change so drastic… It won't be long before Windclan becomes just like Shadowclan, fully rebelling against their own leader and maybe joining the rogues… It's clear they don't like him and “Clan leader’s word is law” hasn't stopped anyone from punishing or driving out their own leader before… (Looking mainly at Shadowclan, but it was also supposed to happen to Thunderclan in one of the drafts for The Last Hope). If anything, I wish the Erins would tell us what caused his personality change. Is it the stress of leadership? Having a position he felt he didn't deserve or was it ready for? It's not so much that his personality changed rather than it changed and we have no idea why… And what's with all the leaders going crazy when they're older… Bluestar was understandable, given her past, but now it's become almost like a fad… And with no good reason, either… I do agree that Onestar does set up some interesting plot points, such as what Shadowclan might have done if the medicine wasn't stolen, or what happens when every single cat in a clan defies their leader (including the deputy), but that doesn't mean I necessarily agree with what he has become. I think he turned bad because he wanted everyone to realize that since he's leader, he's no one's suck-up anymore.
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Tiger's Dawn
I'm A Warrior of All I died Many Many Seasons Ago. Now I help Rock and Midnight.
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Post by Tiger's Dawn on Nov 16, 2016 21:42:45 GMT -5
I do agree that it adds a lot of intensity and makes you feel very excited when they have to band together to go against someone who has no mood for shadow clan , but I personally liked Onewiskers Attitude, I was very confused when I read what Onestar was doing.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Nov 16, 2016 23:07:14 GMT -5
You can chalk that up to desperation, probably…
If he's on his last life, he's probably terrified to lose it, and thus control over his Clan (assuming control is what he wants)
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Nov 16, 2016 23:09:43 GMT -5
I can't stand him.
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Post by kinkajou on Nov 20, 2016 11:01:23 GMT -5
I totally loved the speech he gave on why he wouldn't help Shadowclan. But I still have him Pandean He's being possessed by Mapleshade!
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Rainbow
Pandean
Ferncloud Deserves Better
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Post by Pandean on Nov 20, 2016 11:12:11 GMT -5
I totally loved the speech he gave on why he wouldn't help Shadowclan. But I still have him Pandean He's being possessed by Mapleshade! I can actually see the Erins doing that. Which is sad.
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Post by Jei-Dinofelini on Nov 21, 2016 6:07:33 GMT -5
I hate him even more....
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Post by nem on Nov 21, 2016 7:46:08 GMT -5
Remember!1!1!1 Harespring is a slippery slope that leads to Donaldstar!1!1!
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Post by Bear on Nov 22, 2016 1:47:48 GMT -5
I guess I'm one of the only ones who didn't mind Onestar to begin with? Buut, he does take the whole 'I have to prove WindClan doesn't need ANYBODY' act a little too far sometimes (though it is totally understandable). It's only going to make enemies for WindClan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 2:11:46 GMT -5
❈ -- the only reason why I'd like him is cause he's windclan.
You know, I'm also pretty sure one of his lives was to be insanely stupid and mean
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