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Post by Dingoleap on Apr 17, 2018 20:59:58 GMT -5
Nice nice nice. Yeah, the opening is always the hardest part. I don’t judge a book by its cover, but by the first page, so if the opening isn’t fantastic, I won’t read it. There are a few exceptions, but mostly that.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Apr 17, 2018 23:33:13 GMT -5
No pressure, but agreed. And that is such a perfect notebook and I can see what you wrote here better than on Discord. Your handwriting is still pretty.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Apr 30, 2018 17:54:32 GMT -5
I keep asking myself "is this something I would read and enjoy from another author?" and so far it's been a pretty big yes, so I must be doing something right.
I've also been tweaking with the focus of Curse, specifically with the curses themselves. Instead of having the reveal of the Curses being this long drawn out thing, I think I'm going to introduce the Curses much earlier and have the focus be more on Shadowface's ACTUAL issue which is WHY she is so different from normal cursed. It makes the plot line not so cluttered and confusing.
PLUS THIS MEANS MORE INTERACTION BETWEEN HUMAN DARKMOON AND SHADOWFACE SO UM YES?!!
(Mini update: I've had a family member pass away yesterday. Still reeling from it. Super stressed out and overwhelmed at the moment and I'm trying not to shut down. Gotta just get this week out of the way and it's smooth sailing from here on out. And my goodness I cannot wait to have time and energy and drive to write again. It's going to be an amazing return. Especially with all this new music I've been listening too. :'O
Might come back here with some poems and short stories to share on the forums as I finish this next chapter. )
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Post by mintedstar/fur on May 1, 2018 17:44:57 GMT -5
(*Hugs* I'm so sorry to hear that. ) And that sounds like an interesting idea! I hope it works out! It seems like both plotlines of Curse will be very original and enjoyable.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 1, 2018 23:12:16 GMT -5
*hugs back* Thanks mint. It was very unexpected. And it kills me because I'm not even going to be able to be there for the funeral.
I am honestly a bit nervous while working on draft #2. I keep discovering more and more things I could add and I just need to focus on what I DO know for now. My brain keeps wanting to ask "what if?" especially when it comes to the world. I still imagine it being very viking/celtic inspired since the clans themselves are so brutal in many aspects, but yet they are not conquerors or explorers of other lands they are just...there...living in the valley...content. It doesn't scream VIKING to me. I also got really into face paint yesterday on WeHeartIt and now I want to incorporate that into the valley warrior's daily appearance. So now it's more like Picts x'D. (I just really like the idea of human Shadowface wearing black paint over her eyes like a mask it's SO RIVETING)
Also that and Lionshadow is continuing to hide his human name from me. All I got is a nickname "Az" but I DO NOT want to name him Azriel because it sounds like an angel's name plus Sarah J. Maas has a character named Azriel who is called a "shadowsinger" and I'm just silently crying in the corner wondering WHEN I WILL FIND HIS NAME. ;-;
There needs to be a "z" in it. There has to be.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on May 2, 2018 0:48:05 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that. And wow, yeah, I get that what-if factor. I'm still world building for WCM's story and I'm currently working on the political aspect of it all, and it's a mess, because my idea of a warped American political structure hasn't gotten very far. It's not necessary per say, unless I really want to follow this one character that was the whole cause of the AU futuristic story line. She's also a minor character in the prequel, so part of me really wants to follow that line of study, but the rest of me knows I need to focus on the main story world building. Like making the city more realistic. Azen. I don't know. You'll find something.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 2, 2018 1:26:35 GMT -5
<3 It's ok. I will be ok.
My goodness, that sounds like a lot to think about. I would suggest to try to explore that separate idea a bit outside of what you have, like write it down in a different place or something. You never know when it might come in handy or if something changes!
Azen...reminds me of Aizen from Bleach. o.e' I like the name though...it's close... *eye twitches* Darn you, Lionshadow.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on May 2, 2018 12:36:43 GMT -5
<3 It's ok. I will be ok. My goodness, that sounds like a lot to think about. I would suggest to try to explore that separate idea a bit outside of what you have, like write it down in a different place or something. You never know when it might come in handy or if something changes! Azen...reminds me of Aizen from Bleach. o.e' I like the name though...it's close... *eye twitches* Darn you, Lionshadow. That's good to know. <3 Yeah, basically I'm just making notes on the side. Though notes are currently in my homework notes, so I need to take them out before I delete them at the end of the semester. XD Ha. I was just trying to think of an 'Az' name that didn't sound like an angel. But then again, someone RPs Aizen in a crossover RP I made, so can't say that it didn't come to mind because of that. Azlin? Just jam some syllables together ... He's tricky.
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Post by Dingoleap on May 3, 2018 20:13:59 GMT -5
Aw, Shadow. I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sorry to hear that you can't make the funeral, either. That's really awful. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you <3
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 5, 2018 22:28:30 GMT -5
mintedstar/fur - Nice! How does Zeref sound? Dingoleap - Thank you. <3 It really came out of nowhere. fan art? ROFLUPDATED CHAPTER 18 SNEAK PEEK “Are you blaming me?” I asked quietly, a slight growl coming from my chest.
Mintfeather, Moonfern, Blackheart and Hiddenheart continued to discuss as Eaglefrost lowered his head to mine, his warm breath tickling my right ear.
“I know you have been keeping things from me for moons now, Shadowface,” he hissed, his cold eyes piercing right through every defense I ever tried to throw up between us. “And given how you’ve pushed your family away, I can only assume there must be something dangerous lurking around you.”
I shivered, not from the cold, but from the way he glared at me.
It looked very much like hate.
“And if there was?” I hissed back, glaring out straight ahead of me, refusing to look into those icy eyes.
“Then I would very much like to know,” he growled, a puff of white moisture rolling over my face. “So that I could help you stay safe.”
My ears twitched and I shoved his shoulder, pushing him away from me.
He stumbled back only a step, that same expression; hate, longing, hurt, all wrapped up on his spotted tabby face.
“The best way to help me,” I said, putting as much volume as I could into my voice without alerting the others. “Is to stay out of it.”
- Just to prove that I have been working a bit on both chapters piece by piece. Chapter 18 is finally starting to feel good, especially now that I can add in some more character interactions that I wanted to have before!
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Post by mintedstar/fur on May 6, 2018 16:58:26 GMT -5
Zeref. Hum. Like Zeer-ref (like ref-erence?) Or Zar-reaf? So forth, so on? How do you see that pronounced?
Also, love the sneak peek!
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 6, 2018 18:41:25 GMT -5
Yes, like the first one! XER-REF. I still haven't decided what his last name will be. The Blackmore's keep their last names even if they marry/bond. So he would be Zeref Blackmore, but before he was with Izzora (Shadowhunter) he had a different last name.
I somehow want to incorporate Lion into it, though it wouldn't be realistic given they wouldn't know what a lion was. x'D So maybe "golden" or "majestic". Some kind of word or phrase meaning those things.
It probably won't be important in the story...but I want it for myself. x'D Who knows when I might need it?
Thanks, Mint! <3
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Post by Dingoleap on May 6, 2018 19:28:45 GMT -5
Fanart can be arranged! XD
As for wanting to incorporate Lion into the human name; I know you said that realistically, they don't have lions, but what about constellations? Leo is a constellation, and it means lion, so if you wanted the connection, you could twist it so he's named after the constellation, rather than the animal.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 6, 2018 20:47:12 GMT -5
Fanart can be arranged! XD
As for wanting to incorporate Lion into the human name; I know you said that realistically, they don't have lions, but what about constellations? Leo is a constellation, and it means lion, so if you wanted the connection, you could twist it so he's named after the constellation, rather than the animal. You are a genius, you know that? I haven't even thought of what kind of constellations they would have (since this is not Earth, but Earth-like) since the stars aren't an important part of the clan beliefs...but if they worship a sky deity then there better be some constellations. OOOOOOOOOOOOH BOI I need my journal for this.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on May 7, 2018 14:48:31 GMT -5
Go Shadow go! Invent the night sky!
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Post by Dingoleap on May 8, 2018 23:03:37 GMT -5
Fanart can be arranged! XD
As for wanting to incorporate Lion into the human name; I know you said that realistically, they don't have lions, but what about constellations? Leo is a constellation, and it means lion, so if you wanted the connection, you could twist it so he's named after the constellation, rather than the animal. You are a genius, you know that? I haven't even thought of what kind of constellations they would have (since this is not Earth, but Earth-like) since the stars aren't an important part of the clan beliefs...but if they worship a sky deity then there better be some constellations. OOOOOOOOOOOOH BOI I need my journal for this. Ah, well, I don’t know about that, but every now and again good ideas to come.
GO. GET THE JOURNAL. CREATE
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 13, 2018 17:15:31 GMT -5
Something is coming... Answers at last.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 13, 2018 23:42:18 GMT -5
I've already tagged people on the front page, so you should know by now that Chapter 37 is here. On mother's day. Oh man. The perfect holiday.
This is the longest chapter in Curse's history, and it will stay the longest for a good reason! Word Count: 8,215 Page Count: 44
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Post by Katanaheart on May 14, 2018 0:32:19 GMT -5
“You must be a marvelous mother,” All lies, Spottedmoon, five of her kits were killed, two of them kidnapped. My son is only alive because of Darkmoon, his true mother. (Also I’m confused. I thought Darkestday was also Spottedmoon’s mate for some reason, not her father? Why is he listed as her father here??? And the curse can’t continue since she’s dead, alongside Snow. Eaglefrost is dead, should’ve been more worried about Lionshadow at that time, instead of having emotional moment, but okay, Shadowface. At least he redeemed himself and his past lives though.
And now we know why. Shadowhunter, you’re stupid. Lionshadow, you’re also stupid, but yours is grief stricken stupidity, so you get slight pass.
Shadowhunter, you moron. If you knew a hybrid kit was going to happen; don’t be in love with a Cursed cat, you idiot. And if you have a hybrid kit, Fate, ya’know, your Curse, will take care of it and kill the kid. You didn’t have to do anything. You could’ve staged a plan and have Shadowkit kidnapped by rogues or stolen by a badger and eaten. Not be an idiot, kill your kid, then TELL LIONSHADOW. Logically the dude with he Curse of Pain isn’t going to understand your wisdomy goals here. I mean, I agree with what you were trying to do here, I’ve been wanting to kill some she-kits for a while, for a similar reason. Just poor execution and you’re still a horrible person for it: You LIED continuously and were of no help to anyone.
Okay, now you, Lionshadow. You get a free pass to be furious with Shadowhunter. Blind her, torture her, kill her, okay, understandable: What was not understandable. Killing Foxstar for simply taking her as a mate afterward, when she likely charmed him or something. It wasn’t his fault. Eaglepaw was also off limits as he was an apprentice and didn’t know what had happened. That’s just idiotic, your beef is with Shadowhunter, not other members of your Clan.
Now onto your evil soulless thing, that thing’s also dumb, because “Let’s torture a bunch of she-cats even though they had nothing to do with the murder of my kit,”
At the very least, Lionshadow’s spirit seemed to have learned from his mistakes very quickly, given his deal with Jadestar. Unlike someone, who lies. But Jadefox should’ve brought Lionshadow back to the Land of the Living instead. I get having him be an old sage to explain things but it wasn’t helpful. At the very least he’s ashamed of himself unlike someone else... Still doesn’t excuse any actions amongst either party though.
Also Spottedmoon, your idea while cool, isn’t a thing. Since you’d think Snow would have learned compassion at some point with all the cats she killed, and is now all floating around with the Snow soul. (Now I have the image of like a bouncing snow ball that’s soul like, having like little chibi cat heads floating around in it.)
So yeah..: The only issue is that Eaglefrost is dead, and Shadowface can’t kill Lionshadow..: So, uh... We have a problem.
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Post by Katanaheart on May 14, 2018 0:35:53 GMT -5
The fact that I’m an advocate for child murder shouldn’t amuse me as much as it does.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 14, 2018 15:44:11 GMT -5
So...did you like the chapter, Katanaheart? That's what I would like to hear most lol I'm not going to try to defend my characters to you, since everyone has a right to their opinion.
Darkestday has silver eyes. He passed that on to Spottedmoon who then passed it on to Snow, as any other curse would. There is no evidence to suggest that Darkestday ever knew that he was caring a replacement curse, or that he even had the ability to wield it. But Darkestday is Spottedmoon's biological father. That is a fact. I have never suggested in the story that Spottedmoon was his mate. So with this knowledge, it is very possible that Darkestday's newest litter will inherit the silver eyes and the replacement curse.
The power of the curse of fate is complicated. You can essentially change ones fate, but when you do that you change the future as well. Bringing someone back from the dead isn't a power of the curse, but more as it is a consequence of using the curse itself.
Religion is a powerful blindfold. I've been on Lionshadow's side many times.
The funny thing is, in the first run through of this scene, Foxstar was going to come stop Lionshadow at the river (try to) but it felt wrong. I wanted the focus to be on Lionshadow and Shadowhunter, so I had Foxstar die off screen. When I write "A Path of Shadows" (Lionshadow's short story of his point of view on these events) you will get more information on the whys and hows.
There are many legends and stories involving ghosts that I was inspired by when creating Lionshadow's "soul" character. They are forces of nature filled with whatever emotion they last had before they died. Lionshadow's emotions were a whirlwind, but I gave him moments throughout the story of clarity (like with Alzheimer's patients when they have a rebound) to make him feel more real. His "Spirit" is who he was before he was changed, in simple terms.
The whole point with Jade's plot line is that you see what happens when you choose to be merciful or to try to find a way without killing. The whole "I must become a monster plot" is this idea of killing the killer or bargaining with them. How much is a life worth? Is bloodshed really the only option? Of course there is more to it, but this should have been the idea realized. Jade chose to not become a murderer, while Shadowface did.
Try reading Dark Side of the Moon (Spottedmoon's story) sometime when I get back to updating it. Spottedmoon goes through her own journey of self discovery and healing. This belief of hers is one way she chooses to come to terms with what she has done.
Eaglefrost is dead. That is a problem. o.o'
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Post by Katanaheart on May 14, 2018 16:02:06 GMT -5
Me liking the chapter should go without saying, Shadow! Of course I liked and greatly enjoyed the Chapter! It’s interesting that the Land was more sand and salt like, that is very different. I have no clue where my brain connected Darkestday as Spottedmoon’s mate and not father...? But that is now possible, if Hiddenheart doesn’t pull a Shadowhunter and kill her own kits, given how she seems to hate the Cursed. Shadowhunter still could’ve changed fate much later on and have her kit killed off in a different way. She was way too... eager to get her claws on the kit. Instead of being more patient about it and using her Curse effectively. (We need to see that in action.) Given how Lionshadow’s monster thingie is incapable of reason, murder is unfortunately the only option. As Jadefox’s failed to end the Curse.
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Post by Katanaheart on May 14, 2018 16:03:14 GMT -5
I think my brain only remembered that Snow was cousins with Shadowface. But I couldn’t remember how, except it was through Darkestday, somehow.
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Post by Katanaheart on May 14, 2018 16:04:38 GMT -5
Also I am reading Dark Side of the Moon, remember? I believe I’ve commented on it previously?
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 14, 2018 16:33:15 GMT -5
Well geez, Kat! Leave me hanging over here while your scolding my characters x'D Thank you! <3 It is an honest mistake. Who knows, there might have been something I said that had you believing that.
She couldn't go back in time. Fate can only be changed as an event is happening. (ooh I need to put that in the quiz lol) Yes. We do need to see the curse of fate ( and a few others ) in action to understand it. And the tough thing is that each cat is unique with their gift. Their power level depends on how long the curse has been in their family, and also their character in general. (Since their power is a manifestation of their soul, it takes tremendous will power to wield it).
Yes, at this point it is.
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Post by Katanaheart on May 14, 2018 16:44:40 GMT -5
Well geez, Kat! Leave me hanging over here while your scolding my characters x'D Thank you! <3 It is an honest mistake. Who knows, there might have been something I said that had you believing that.
She couldn't go back in time. Fate can only be changed as an event is happening. (ooh I need to put that in the quiz lol) Yes. We do need to see the curse of fate ( and a few others ) in action to understand it. And the tough thing is that each cat is unique with their gift. Their power level depends on how long the curse has been in their family, and also their character in general. (Since their power is a manifestation of their soul, it takes tremendous will power to wield it).
Yes, at this point it is. Again, should go without saying! Like that isn’t complicated or confusing. I still think she should’ve waited though. And someone has to scold your characters! I might as well do it. Ironically I nearly ended up having Shadowhunter’s Curse but Ashpaw’s decided to keep me. Interesting, but other events can happen. She acted too quickly.
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Post by Dingoleap on May 15, 2018 0:07:26 GMT -5
Man oh man oh man, Shadow... I have many things to tell you.
FIRST OF ALL EAGLEFROST NO HOW COULD YOU, SHADOW??? I'm suck a sucker for sacrifice for love/friends, so this scene particularly hit me hard, especially as Eagle kept chanting the lives of those Lionshadow had killed in his quest, and I'm not kidding, I literally almost burst into tears reading this scene, especially after Shadowface reappeared in the realm of the living just in time to hold him as he died... man, Eaglefrost, you finally did it. You finally managed to save her. I just wish it didn't have to be this way...
Speaking of Lionshadow, I was cheering when Sahdowface unleashed all of her pain upon him. Kudos for figuring out how to use your curse, Shadowface. And yet, as much as I loved Lionshadow getting what was coming to him, this chapter really made me feel for Lionshadow. What Shadowhunter did to him was just... beyond comprehension. My heart really went out to him. Poor boy. I'm really intrigued to find out what happened to Eclipsekit, though... assuming Lionshadow actually managed to hide him/her. My opinion of Shadowhunter really flipped in this chapter. Before this, I saw her as a loving ablate exhausted mother trying to save her children from Lionshadow, but you've shown a much darker side to her, and I have very little sympathy for someone who killed her daughter out of fear of what she might become.
Your use of emotion in this chapter was really something, too. It hit me hard. I'm just going to sit here and digest all this new information for a while...
If you don't hear from me, assume I drowned in my tears.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on May 15, 2018 11:44:21 GMT -5
Katanaheart I'm sorry! I enjoy my compliments x'D They are food for a writer. (Along with lots of shushi on my part) My characters do need to be scolded, Kat. And I think you are the best one to do it by far!! Though, I'm waiting for ᴛᴜᴇsᴅᴀʏ to give me an ear full. This chapter was not kind to her. o.e' Dingoleap I see you have many things to tell me. O.O *gives tissues and chocolate* Funny thing is, I hadn't planned on him dying in this chapter. I had a goal, which was for Shadowface to learn the truth, so then everything else was up for experimenting. I even had an idea at one point to have Blackheart come swooping in, but that seemed to far out of left field. Eaglefrost's death seemed like a more likely thing to happen than anything else, plus it pushed Shadowface that one last step. We will see the break down of their relationship in the next chapter (which is the 'breather' chapter before things get real) where I will explore Shadowface's mental state among a few other things. Remember, we still have Darkmoon in play!
I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU FEEL FOR HIM. Out of everything, I wanted there to be different feelings for Lionshadow after this. And that scene where Shadowface is inflicting pain upon him, I wanted the reader to see just how easy it would be for Shadowface to become just like Lionshadow, and given that he too lost everything, I hope that it makes it that much more believable. Lionshadow, believe it or not, is one of my favorite characters.
It's been a while, but do you remember the character Eclipse from Jadestar's chapters? She came with a kit, asking for shelter, saying that her mother was Shadowhunter, and that a mysterious tom had been keeping her in the forest. That's when we found out that Lionshadow and Shadowhunter were not only mates, but had kits. (Also, Eclipse has the curse of fate, and her kit too received only yellow eyes)
Shadowhunter is the true villain of this story. (gosh it feels so good to say that after keeping it in for so long x'D) I mean, just look at her name, SHADOWHUNTER. She hunts "Shadows". LionSHADOW. SHADOWface. SHADOWkit. (haha) If you need anything, I'm here for you to vent at lol Thank you. <3
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Post by Katanaheart on May 15, 2018 12:02:34 GMT -5
Very true!, compliments are helpful! As is recognition and validation. I just immediately jumped into scolding everyone. I had no emotions in my response, I was sad when Eaglefrost was dying, but also, like Shadowface, okay; I get it but more important things to deal with right now. I forgot Eclipse had a kid... Does this mean the Curse of Fate has a descendant aside from Shadowface?
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ᴛᴜᴇsᴅᴀʏ
do you walk in the valley of kings? do you walk in the shadow of men who sold their lives to dream?
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Post by ᴛᴜᴇsᴅᴀʏ on May 15, 2018 13:00:39 GMT -5
shadz. SHADZ. EXCUSE YOU. spottedmoon's thank you. holy smokes that was a fantastic scene
"i can do this all day" NO MY SON YOU CAN'T AND I WORRY
"only a fool in love would go this far" tru. also, this feels like bad news, deep in my bones.
"i wonder what piece of my daughter has become yours" mmmm. i sense. a plot point...
mmmm this half of lionshadow is v interesting. i get the sense it's genuine, too, that the lionshadow eagle is fighting is the half with all hope of good burned out and left in another realm.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO YOU COULD HAVE CHOSEN ANY OTHER MOMENT TO BE FAST ENOUGH. ANY OTHER MOMENT.
"i will drag your soul back to this realm with my teeth if i have to" hey. do you hear that? that's the sound of me sobbing bc HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?
so, shadowface. what part of lionshadow's soul will become yours?
oh my god, shadowhunter killed her own daughter. anyhoo I'M DOWN TO FIGHT WHENEVER YOU ARE, TIME TO SQUARE UP OVER MY SON
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