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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 23, 2018 23:36:34 GMT -5
mintedstar/fur - You take your time/you do you! ^^' Katanaheart - Only a Curse of Fate can create another Curse of Fate. Same thing with any other Curses. Their children inherit their curse and their curse only. Whichever Shadowface chooses, any future children she might have will inherit that one curse. That is the dilemma, because she carries the last remnants of two different Curses. Whichever one she doesn't choose will go extinct and will never return. (Though some time down the road we might have another Snow incident; "the world trying to replace the missing Curse".)
The reason Shadowface and her ancestors had two was because Shadowhunter still had the Curse of Fate when she gave birth to Jade and the Curse of Pain belonged to Lionshadow.
In Maskkit's case, she (like everyone else) has inherited Lionshadow's Curse of Pain AND the Curse of Fate from Shadowhunter's line, BUT like Shadowface and all others before her, Lionshadow's Curse is stronger, and thus is the only one present in both the eyes and powers. Once that Curse is gone, Maskkit will only have the lingering wisps of the Curse of Fate, which may or may not manifest. (But given that Shadowface was unable to manifest it until Falconwing awakened it, it is very unlikely).
Think of it this way; Lionshadow's Curse can be traced back to the very FIRST holder of the Curse of Pain (the origin of all Curse of Pain holders) while Shadowhunter's Curse of Fate line came hundreds of generations later. Lionshadow's Curse is so much more pure and strong that it overtook all future generations of the Curse of Fate power that Shadowhunter would have otherwise passed on. The Curse of Pain eclipsed the Curse of Fate and has pretty much snuffed it out.
Does that make sense? Ah, that makes sense. Either way we have more Snow incidents and we lose another Curse to Lionshadow’s idiotic plans. |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 23, 2018 23:38:07 GMT -5
Katanaheart - "Lionshadow's idiotic plans", eh? x'D
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 23, 2018 23:39:15 GMT -5
Yes!  It has been the cause of much suffering and the destruction of another Curse. First Hadiya’s blood thirsty nature in times of war and now Lionshadow being Lionshadow... |
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 24, 2018 0:57:10 GMT -5
The scientist in Me is squealing with joy at the thought of Cursed genetics/inheritance
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Jan 24, 2018 11:57:00 GMT -5
Have you read any good books lately? Anyone reading this ...
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Post by phantomstar57 on Jan 24, 2018 15:39:28 GMT -5
Very mystical. LOVE it.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 24, 2018 17:52:46 GMT -5
Have you read any good books lately? Anyone reading this ... Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo An Enchantment of Ravens by Margaret Rogerson Moon Chosen by P.C. Cast (Haven't read this one yet but I know the author's other works and they haven't disapointed (ok well maybe their House of Night series went on wayyyy too long but this new series looks fresh, unique and super interesting!)) Song of the Sparrow by Lisa Ann Sandell (this is just one of my old all time favorites that I recommend to everyone) |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 24, 2018 17:53:48 GMT -5
Yes! It has been the cause of much suffering and the destruction of another Curse. First Hadiya’s blood thirsty nature in times of war and now Lionshadow being Lionshadow... This is very true. x'D The loss of any of the Curses is truly a cause for much hatred. |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 24, 2018 17:57:54 GMT -5
The scientist in Me is squealing with joy at the thought of Cursed genetics/inheritance Lol, it's quite simple really, but I guess the really exciting stuff comes with the conversation over hybrids. |
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 24, 2018 18:34:05 GMT -5
The scientist in Me is squealing with joy at the thought of Cursed genetics/inheritance Lol, it's quite simple really, but I guess the really exciting stuff comes with the conversation over hybrids.
So is mutation. |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 24, 2018 22:52:42 GMT -5
“Be they my mother, my daughter, or even my friend…if anyone threatens the ones I cherish, I will never forgive them.”
Curse, Chapter 35 - And Revenge Darkens the Soul |
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 24, 2018 23:44:25 GMT -5
These teasers just keep getting darker and darker, Shadow.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 25, 2018 0:01:53 GMT -5
Yes! It has been the cause of much suffering and the destruction of another Curse. First Hadiya’s blood thirsty nature in times of war and now Lionshadow being Lionshadow... This is very true. x'D The loss of any of the Curses is truly a cause for much hatred. YEP! |
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 25, 2018 1:50:21 GMT -5
I KNOW WHAT IM DOING TONIGHT
Was planning on wasting time on Reddit, but this is much, much better.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 25, 2018 2:03:03 GMT -5
A few things about this chapter: It's dark. It's been a while sense Curse visited these "super dark" themes. Truthfully, Curse would be a darker story if it wasn't for the minor characters and the few lulls or breaks in between the intensity.
Speaking of minor characters, Snow's arc has come to a close. How do you feel about that? How do you feel Snow affected Shadowface? How did Shadowface affect Snow? (honestly that won't be visited until A Tale of Snow gets written).
It was surprisingly emotional to end Snow's life for me. She hadn't even been in the original plot, but she became a sort of stepping stone for Shadowface to leap off of so that she could face Lionshadow. I felt that Snow grounded her in a harsher reality. A tangible foe with "god-like" power who could be beaten by her own will and strength. This is going to give her that confidence, that edge, to face someone like Lionshadow.
(((In a way, I also felt like Snow was a mirror to Shadowface's "other side". (discussed in next paragraph)))))
This chapter also helps bring a different lens onto Shadowface's character. She is much more grey than I think most of my readers have realized. Yes, she kicks some tail, she's stubborn, she "needs no man"...but she too can be a monster. She too can be a murderer. Did Snow deserve it? The word "deserve" is so flimsy, it's really not something that should be used in this instance.
Snow was not manipulated. She was not a puppet. She went along with Lionshadow's schemes fully knowing what would happen. Her death by Shadowface's hands is more of a "karma" result. What you deal in life it will deal to you ten fold. This is one of the lessons/messages I hoped to convey through Curse. (more minor and less obvious but its still there). Basically, Snow had it coming. Sooner or later, she was going to die because of her choices. (But everyone knows the world doesn't always work this way but it's still a good thing to remember, yeah?)
Eaglefrost too had a bit of development. Guardians (as we know from Eaglecurse's interaction with Lionshadow) are fireproof! And a bit tougher than your average cat. Eaglefrost now as a way to remain by Shadowface's side a bit longer and protect her/provide aid. We also saw a bit of his dark side too, but given that he's a more logical thinker than Shadowface, he was able to reign in his personal feelings and look at the situation in a different way. In the end, he still could not persuade Shadowface.
AND ALSO THE RETURN OF RUSHSTORM!! MR. COMIC RELIEF IS BACK!!
jk jk he played probably the most important (and serious) role in this chapter. Both as Shadowface's inner voice and as a moral compass to keep her in check (for a time). The presence of him in the realm of the living (however faint at the moment) should say something about what he's chosen to do with his time in the afterlife.
So yeah, that's what I got for now. I hope y'all enjoy this chapter. <3 |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 25, 2018 2:05:34 GMT -5
Chapter 35 Stats
page count: 35
word count: 6350
death count: 1
cry count: 5 (?)
epic fight scene count: X infinity
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 25, 2018 2:15:34 GMT -5
TIME TO READ
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 25, 2018 3:34:43 GMT -5
Ok. Wow. I have a lot to say about this chapter.
Firstly, fantastic chapter, as always! The character interactions were brilliant, particularly between Eaglefrost and Shadowface. It was awesome to see their friendship return, and I particularly like how their interactions mirrored their childhoods together. It was really nice to see the parallels between them. I loved seeing Rushstorm back, as well. Even though his part was small, it was really great to see how much he means to Shadowface, even in her 'attack mode'.
I loved Snow's characterisation in this chapter, too. She has a silver tongue, I swear. It was so easy to picture the exact way she says everything, and her mannerisms are so unique?? I love her. I love to hate her. Also Shadowface arranging her dead body like that was morbidly creepy. You were right about the darker themes returning in this chapter. It adds a lot of extra seriousness to the chapter, which I found really benefits it here.
Also those revelations were heartbreaking!
I can't believe (well, I can believe it) that Lionshadow manipulated the events of the story to murder Sadowface's family. The kits! Those poor, poor kits!
Thoughts on Snow's demise! From what I remember, she does not have a true curse, in the sense that it is not one of the original seven. That means, at least in my interpretation, that she does not have a Guardian. She is vulnerable, far more so than Shadowface is, especially now that Shadowface has a greater understanding of her cursed powers.
I do think that her death was necessary to the storyline, though. Like you said, she is a stepping stone, necessary for Shadowface to be able to face Lionshadow. Without Snow, don't think shadow face would ever have awakened her powers or perhaps gained the confidence to face her enemy. Likewise, I feel like she had to die, considering for the past few chapters, Shadowface has been so focussed, so obsessed, with ending Snow and avenging her clan. Now that she's out of the way, Shadowface finds herself more capable than ever, and able to focus on the real issue at hand.
Also have I preached about my love for symbolism yet? Because Shadowface loosing an eye seems to be - at least to me - hella symbolic. It's almost poetic, when you think about it.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 25, 2018 3:53:31 GMT -5
And read! Very nice Chapter, Shadow! (If Only it could’ve come out sooner!  ) Honestly I was not expecting such a swift end for Snow. I was certain it was going to be a much more drawn out battle, like last time... Instead, not so much, a fast fight and then Shadowface loses her temper and kills her. Not the end I saw for someone as vile as Snow. As for whether or not she deserved it.... She deserved to die. But not then. One we’ve lost the replacement Curse, so good job, Shadowface! Two, I agree with Eaglefrost on this one, Snow was more useful alive. (She had an army and Shadowface made their leader into a martyr. What usually happens when that occurs I wonder? Oh yes, rebellion and mass slaughter.) Keeping Snow alive could’ve swayed the rogues to not be a problem later on, Instead we have many cats out for blood. (Also is Firebird based on anyone? I don’t remember.) Also the return of Rushstorm! (I wish there had been more of him.  ) Also my favorite characters for this Chapter: The Spirits because I like their voices in my head, and they did get SOME warmth, at the very least. As for Lionshadow, your idiotic plans pretty much wiped out your curse, at least you seem to be giving up because you’re tired of “living,” so that’s nice... I was also not expecting Shadowface to lose an eye either, her kits are going to Be terrified of her now. (Darkmoon is allowed to be mother of Tempestkit as I can’t be his mother, and I don’t trust Shadowface with my son.) The obvious sign is obvious but still a very nice way of Snow’s body being laid out. As for later Chapters, we just have Lionshadow and a murderous Rogue rebellion in the works. Along with more answers for the characters , especially regarding Eaglefrost. |
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 25, 2018 3:55:02 GMT -5
Also I suppose the Curse of Fate is now off the table, given Shadowface’s whole “I am pain,” thing?
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Post by Mosspool on Jan 25, 2018 8:27:53 GMT -5
Yay! I’m off to write an exam now but I know what I’ll be doing as soon as I get home.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 25, 2018 12:39:49 GMT -5
Oh my gosh I'm so happy you guys have different views!!!! Dingoleap Katanaheart I was hoping to have this; who agreed with Shadowface's choices (or I guess who made peace with them) and who thought Eaglefrost's suggestions should have been the way Snow was handled. Dingoleap - I'm downright pleased that you felt their relationship "continue" in this chapter. It really did feel like a call back to the old days, didn't it? The two of them wandering into danger and trouble and what not. "Attack mode" is one way to put it. x'D Makes Shadowface sound like a robot. She was essentially blind to all logic, but unlike Eaglefrost, she never had the sense/logic fully knocked back into her. She did think he was dead; I think any of us who are more emotionally inclined like Shadowface would break down in some way shape or form after hearing about a friend's death/watching it happen. EEEEEEK, I'm glad I captured that feeling for you with Snow's character. I was a little paranoid about not adding enough description/detail. So I went the "show more than tell" route which has worked for me in the past (and is honestly the way you should do it anyway but my brain likes to doubt itself). How Snow's body was arranged was actually added in as I was writing. It wasn't in the original planning. She was simply going to be left in the MountainClan camp, but as I thought about it, and how Shadowface's mental state would have been...she needed to leave her mark, much like Snow did to her in both destroying her home and (as you noticed) removing her eye. It felt REALLY good to have that extra scene at the end. Hmmm, yes, one of the major plot twists finally unveiled. It was a good weight to get off my shoulders. It makes it very sad, yes. Shadowface has blamed herself for their deaths (basically everything up until this point) but to find out that from the very beginning she had no control over any of it? It's crushing. It's something that's going to harden her/prepare her for the monster she is going to face. (there is so much more to it of course but that plot twist is coming... :'3) Oooh, I like how you point out that Snow's death also helps Shadowface focus on the MATTER AT HAND (the thing we've all been waiting for); breaking this ridiculous curse. It's a great point! Symbolism is everywhere in this story. Katanaheart - *gets on hands and knees* please forgive me kat-senpai! D': I am writing trash who can't be rid of her perfectionist & procrastination nature. But thank you ;-; I greatly appreciate you! Your responses are always so honest and straightforward. x'D The battle itself was almost as long as the arena fight, it just felt shorter because the way I wrote the scene made it feel much shorter than it really was which was purposeful. I wanted you guys to be lost in Shadowface's emotions and uncontrolled nature. But still, it does feel short, as you say. Snow probably could have been rightly tortured for her crimes but her death ultimately serves many purposes for the story. I agree with you as well. Snow was much more useful alive than dead, and you make some really good points about future negotiations with the rogues. But then (I have to play devil's advocate) how long could she be controlled? Who is to say she wouldn't find a way out and return back to her rogues and wreck havoc again? We know her to be clever, resourceful and unpredictable. Even with the knowledge that Eaglefrost can nullify her powers, she can still kill him as a normal cat. PLUS (something I think we are all forgetting) the rogues aren't a clan. They don't have a clan structure. Without their leader, they fall apart. They won't be able to mount any sort of attack on any of the other clans because they have lost their source of confidence and strength. No one will follow a cat who doesn't exhibit Snow's same strength/drive. Think of Snow as the head of a snake. A headless snake is just going to flop around, unable to bite, think, or poison its prey. But still, I think Eaglefrost's logical thinking was a better solution (if you leave out these possible consequences). Firebird is based off of my forum friend Phoenix (I can't remember her newest forum name but she posted a few short stories on here in the past). Honestly, same here. Rushstorm is one of my personal favorites. <3 With Lionshadow, it's the idea of "immortality" being an unrealistic thing to look forward to. All organic things are meant to live and then die. It's unnatural for someone to be around for so long (and tied to the same cycle over and over again). Remember that he is a soul. A ghost. He's not a cat anymore. Shadowface loosing an eye (and getting a scar on the right side of her face) keeps her in tune with the Curse. Do you remember how all of her ancestors had a permanent scar on the right side of their faces over their eyes? (No, not all of them lost an eye, but its still something important to remember). *nods* You see the madness my friend. I hope I can continue surprising you! (in good ways) - I can't wait to see what you think!!! <3 |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 25, 2018 12:41:43 GMT -5
Katanaheart - Oh no, the curse of fate is still there. Shadowface was just reminding herself in that moment what her dominant curse was, and how she could use that to make Snow suffer...o.e' jeez so dark.
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 25, 2018 15:37:49 GMT -5
*chuckles*
I'm already six pages into Chapter 36 and a plot bomb has already been dropped!
*laughs in full scale madness*
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 25, 2018 16:13:33 GMT -5
Oh my gosh I'm so happy you guys have different views!!!! Dingoleap Katanaheart I was hoping to have this; who agreed with Shadowface's choices (or I guess who made peace with them) and who thought Eaglefrost's suggestions should have been the way Snow was handled. Dingoleap - I'm downright pleased that you felt their relationship "continue" in this chapter. It really did feel like a call back to the old days, didn't it? The two of them wandering into danger and trouble and what not. "Attack mode" is one way to put it. x'D Makes Shadowface sound like a robot. She was essentially blind to all logic, but unlike Eaglefrost, she never had the sense/logic fully knocked back into her. She did think he was dead; I think any of us who are more emotionally inclined like Shadowface would break down in some way shape or form after hearing about a friend's death/watching it happen. EEEEEEK, I'm glad I captured that feeling for you with Snow's character. I was a little paranoid about not adding enough description/detail. So I went the "show more than tell" route which has worked for me in the past (and is honestly the way you should do it anyway but my brain likes to doubt itself). How Snow's body was arranged was actually added in as I was writing. It wasn't in the original planning. She was simply going to be left in the MountainClan camp, but as I thought about it, and how Shadowface's mental state would have been...she needed to leave her mark, much like Snow did to her in both destroying her home and (as you noticed) removing her eye. It felt REALLY good to have that extra scene at the end. Hmmm, yes, one of the major plot twists finally unveiled. It was a good weight to get off my shoulders. It makes it very sad, yes. Shadowface has blamed herself for their deaths (basically everything up until this point) but to find out that from the very beginning she had no control over any of it? It's crushing. It's something that's going to harden her/prepare her for the monster she is going to face. (there is so much more to it of course but that plot twist is coming... :'3) Oooh, I like how you point out that Snow's death also helps Shadowface focus on the MATTER AT HAND (the thing we've all been waiting for); breaking this ridiculous curse. It's a great point! Symbolism is everywhere in this story. Katanaheart - *gets on hands and knees* please forgive me kat-senpai! D': I am writing trash who can't be rid of her perfectionist & procrastination nature. But thank you ;-; I greatly appreciate you! Your responses are always so honest and straightforward. x'D The battle itself was almost as long as the arena fight, it just felt shorter because the way I wrote the scene made it feel much shorter than it really was which was purposeful. I wanted you guys to be lost in Shadowface's emotions and uncontrolled nature. But still, it does feel short, as you say. Snow probably could have been rightly tortured for her crimes but her death ultimately serves many purposes for the story. I agree with you as well. Snow was much more useful alive than dead, and you make some really good points about future negotiations with the rogues. But then (I have to play devil's advocate) how long could she be controlled? Who is to say she wouldn't find a way out and return back to her rogues and wreck havoc again? We know her to be clever, resourceful and unpredictable. Even with the knowledge that Eaglefrost can nullify her powers, she can still kill him as a normal cat. PLUS (something I think we are all forgetting) the rogues aren't a clan. They don't have a clan structure. Without their leader, they fall apart. They won't be able to mount any sort of attack on any of the other clans because they have lost their source of confidence and strength. No one will follow a cat who doesn't exhibit Snow's same strength/drive. Think of Snow as the head of a snake. A headless snake is just going to flop around, unable to bite, think, or poison its prey. But still, I think Eaglefrost's logical thinking was a better solution (if you leave out these possible consequences). Firebird is based off of my forum friend Phoenix (I can't remember her newest forum name but she posted a few short stories on here in the past). Honestly, same here. Rushstorm is one of my personal favorites. <3 With Lionshadow, it's the idea of "immortality" being an unrealistic thing to look forward to. All organic things are meant to live and then die. It's unnatural for someone to be around for so long (and tied to the same cycle over and over again). Remember that he is a soul. A ghost. He's not a cat anymore. Shadowface loosing an eye (and getting a scar on the right side of her face) keeps her in tune with the Curse. Do you remember how all of her ancestors had a permanent scar on the right side of their faces over their eyes? (No, not all of them lost an eye, but its still something important to remember). *nods* You see the madness my friend. I hope I can continue surprising you! (in good ways) - I can't wait to see what you think!!! <3 That doesn’t work in that context, I’m younger than you! (Senpai is referred to someone older/ in a higher grade than you in a school setting.) I was actually worried about coming off as too blunt and that I didn’t enjoy the Chapter, I did enjoy it, I promise! As for the rogues and their rebellion, I see what you mean about cutting off the head of the snake. They’re not going to be the huge threat they were, but they are united with a single goal in mind right now, avenging Snow. I imagine the rogues will listen to Firebird or Snow’s “daughter,” (I can’t think of how to spell her name for the life of me and I’m not going to try.) As temporary replacements, they’re not going to slaughter a whole Clan as a consistent unit, but they’re going to cause trouble, unneeded trouble. As for the dilemma of Snow, a simple solution to keep her under wraps: Darkmoon. Snow does not like her and Darkmoon can easily place the same curse she had put on Spottedmoon, on Snow. An inevitable death that will happen relatively soon or the promises of it could force Snow’s paw to remain loyal till the main objective is complete. |
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 25, 2018 16:14:38 GMT -5
*chuckles* I'm already six pages into Chapter 36 and a plot bomb has already been dropped! *laughs in full scale madness* Ooooooh! Yay!  Don’t make me wanna write the next episode! (I still need/want to see Mint’s response before I start writing anymore.) |
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 25, 2018 16:15:29 GMT -5
*chuckles* I'm already six pages into Chapter 36 and a plot bomb has already been dropped! *laughs in full scale madness*
Something tells me this chapter is going to be full on |
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Post by » ѕнαdσω ⚔️ on Jan 25, 2018 16:27:45 GMT -5
Katanaheart - You are a genius. (you found my loophole with Darkmoon) Dingoleap Katanaheart - MAKE THAT 11 PAGES!!!
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Post by Dingoleap on Jan 25, 2018 16:30:04 GMT -5
Already?!?!
You’re on a roll, Shadow!
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