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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 13, 2016 16:50:16 GMT -5
So I've been thinking, considering how small SkyClan is now, when they move to the lake they'll need to repopulate. Kinda reminds me of when Thunder seperated from his father's group and led his own. And on the way he took in other cats, like from Darktail's group. I know it sounds weird but I see some slim parallel possibly? Hawkwing, who will one day lead SkyClan, leading a small group of cats, and possibly taking in cats from other clans so he can rebuild their own? This may include loners, and possibly cats from other clans?
Imo, I think Twigpaw and Violetpaw will both go to SkyClan. The only real reason they're staying at this point is because of Alderheart and Needletail. But the thing is I also believe that Alder and Needle will join SkyClan as well. SkyClan will need a medicine cat, and he already has a strong connection with them. Also Rain seems enamored by Needle, and his relationship with Darktail is quite rocky. Spoilers, if you didn't know in TAS Darktail blinds Rain in one eye, but also Needle and him seems to have gotten closer. Needle also doesn't show any real attachment to ShadowClan. I believe both her and Rain might change, and join SkyClan as a promising couple for kits. I also like the idea of Dovewing joining SkyClan, I feel like a some ThunderClan cats will go after spending time with them and helping them rebuild. And if this is the case I'd want Dovewing to be one of the cats that chooses to stay, and as slim as the chance maybe, hopefully some HawkDove will pursue after. But leveling off of this, what if the other clans think that SkyClan will be the key to their victory? So they either help, on the other hand Darktail and his cats will try drive them out. And once the threat is over, maybe some stay with SkyClan in the end, similar to when cats chose to what clan they wanted to stay in in the beginning, or whether to leave on the journey or not. Same with some of Darktail's cats, maybe, like Slash, they'll realize how much of a foxdung he is and see how well Clan cats are treated and choose Hawkwing over him.
Does anyone else have any other theories? I have some other cats that I think might stay with ShadowClan, like young wayward ones, that are confused in this time of crisis, like Needle, that have no real attachments to their clan. Or cats losing faith in their leader, like the current state in WindClan too.
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Post by *Faith* on Nov 13, 2016 17:20:01 GMT -5
I agree about Twigpaw, Violetpaw and Alderheart. The only problem is though, then all our POV's will be in SkyClan. It's usually always been in TC. So it all being in SkyClan will be strange since we'll no longer be seeing into TC. Unless Alderheart trains Twigpaw and she becomes SkC new medicine cat.
I don't really think Rain would be welcome into SkyClan. Especially since...yeah...
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Nov 13, 2016 17:30:12 GMT -5
I can guarantee Rain will not be allowed in SkyClan. He helped kill Sharpclaw, and Hawkwing won't forget that. If anything, he will die along with Darktail in this arc.
As for Needletail, I'm not sure what will happen to her. She will either go back to ShadowClan, join SkyClan, or be banished/killed. Twigpaw will most likely become SkyClan's next medicine cat--Alderheart helping to train her. Violetpaw will most likely join SkyClan as well. As for Darktail's cats, I have no idea. I can imagine Hawkwing himself holds a massive grudge against the rogues, and considering his character, I doubt he'll let any of those cats join--unless Leafstar doesn't die in this arc, and Hawkwing remains just the deputy.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 13, 2016 18:22:36 GMT -5
I can guarantee Rain will not be allowed in SkyClan. He helped kill Sharpclaw, and Hawkwing won't forget that. If anything, he will die along with Darktail in this arc. As for Needletail, I'm not sure what will happen to her. She will either go back to ShadowClan, join SkyClan, or be banished/killed. Twigpaw will most likely become SkyClan's next medicine cat--Alderheart helping to train her. Violetpaw will most likely join SkyClan as well. As for Darktail's cats, I have no idea. I can imagine Hawkwing himself holds a massive grudge against the rogues, and considering his character, I doubt he'll let any of those cats join--unless Leafstar doesn't die in this arc, and Hawkwing remains just the deputy. Blackstar murdered Rosetail and Stonefur, and Clear Sky killed Misty, and Rainswept Flower, but both cats were redeemed. Also who's to say that Rain wasn't just following orders? I've seen people use this argument a lot to justify what Blackstar did, saying he was just following orders, and still was redeemed as a character later on. Also what if Leafstar changes Hawkwing's view, Hawkwing does seem like an emotional character, but has shown development and maturity. Imo he doesn't seem like the type to hold a massive grudge, he just needs more time and guidance. |
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Nov 13, 2016 18:47:47 GMT -5
Blackstar murdered Rosetail and Stonefur, and Clear Sky killed Misty, and Rainswept Flower, but both cats were redeemed. Also who's to say that Rain wasn't just following orders? I've seen people use this argument a lot to justify what Blackstar did, saying he was just following orders, and still was redeemed as a character later on. Also what if Leafstar changes Hawkwing's view, Hawkwing does seem like an emotional character, but has shown development and maturity. Imo he doesn't seem like the type to hold a massive grudge, he just needs more time and guidance. Yes, that is true. But Hawkwing isn't as forgiving, and while he has shown maturity and such, the rogues ruined his life. They killed his father, destroyed his Clan, killed his Clanmates, indirectly caused Pebbleshine's death, and so on. Hawkwing lost almost everything because of them, and I really don't think he will forgive them for that--ever. And I partly believe Leafstar will not be as forgiving either, for the same reasons. She literally lost her entire family, except for Harrybrook because of the rogues. While I wont deny there is a possibility for them to accept Rain, I highly doubt it. |
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Nov 13, 2016 23:41:25 GMT -5
Blackstar murdered Rosetail and Stonefur, and Clear Sky killed Misty, and Rainswept Flower, but both cats were redeemed. Also who's to say that Rain wasn't just following orders? I've seen people use this argument a lot to justify what Blackstar did, saying he was just following orders, and still was redeemed as a character later on. Also what if Leafstar changes Hawkwing's view, Hawkwing does seem like an emotional character, but has shown development and maturity. Imo he doesn't seem like the type to hold a massive grudge, he just needs more time and guidance. Yes, that is true. But Hawkwing isn't as forgiving, and while he has shown maturity and such, the rogues ruined his life. They killed his father, destroyed his Clan, killed his Clanmates, indirectly caused Pebbleshine's death, and so on. Hawkwing lost almost everything because of them, and I really don't think he will forgive them for that--ever. And I partly believe Leafstar will not be as forgiving either, for the same reasons. She literally lost her entire family, except for Harrybrook because of the rogues. While I wont deny there is a possibility for them to accept Rain, I highly doubt it. |
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Post by pastelpills on Nov 14, 2016 0:29:44 GMT -5
I would like to say that I highly doubt Dovewing will join SkyXlan. It was previously stated that she can never join another Clan and leave Ivypool, even if it was a love interest.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 14, 2016 2:17:50 GMT -5
I would like to say that I highly doubt Dovewing will join SkyXlan. It was previously stated that she can never join another Clan and leave Ivypool, even if it was a love interest. I'm a bit miffed that people think they're connected at the hip....I've seen lots of people say she won't leave because of Ivy, but what about White and Birch? Also Ivy and Dove grew apart in OotS, and didn't become close again, well at least somewhat close until AVoS. |
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Post by pastelpills on Nov 14, 2016 3:54:19 GMT -5
I would like to say that I highly doubt Dovewing will join SkyXlan. It was previously stated that she can never join another Clan and leave Ivypool, even if it was a love interest. I'm a bit miffed that people think they're connected at the hip....I've seen lots of people say she won't leave because of Ivy, but what about White and Birch? Also Ivy and Dove grew apart in OotS, and didn't become close again, well at least somewhat close until AVoS. Idk, to me, Dovewing still seems like the type that wouldn't leave her family. |
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Post by Noface on Nov 14, 2016 6:08:19 GMT -5
I disagree with you on the Thunderclan cats joining Skyclan. I doubt they'd leave their family just for that. I say they'd probably help find other cats to do those roles. Unless they decide to distort the plot.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Nov 14, 2016 9:07:29 GMT -5
I honestly don't see any ThunderClan cats leaving their Clan. For the past few arcs, we've had it shoved in our face about how loyal ThunderClan is and so forth.
The only cats I see leaving ThunderClan, are Twigpaw and Alderheart. Possibly even Sparkpelt, if this prophecy is about her at all.
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Post by Noface on Nov 14, 2016 9:18:24 GMT -5
I honestly don't see any ThunderClan cats leaving their Clan. For the past few arcs, we've had it shoved in our face about how loyal ThunderClan is and so forth. The only cats I see leaving ThunderClan, are Twigpaw and Alderheart. Possibly even Sparkpelt, if this prophecy is about her at all. No, not Alderheart. Maybe he'll consider it, but in the end he'll stick with Thunderclan. He may help raise Skyclan like Firestar did, however. |
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Post by pastelpills on Nov 14, 2016 9:21:01 GMT -5
I honestly don't see any ThunderClan cats leaving their Clan. For the past few arcs, we've had it shoved in our face about how loyal ThunderClan is and so forth. The only cats I see leaving ThunderClan, are Twigpaw and Alderheart. Possibly even Sparkpelt, if this prophecy is about her at all. No, not Alderheart. Maybe he'll consider it, but in the end he'll stick with Thunderclan. He may help raise Skyclan like Firestar did, however. I'm not sure why people think he would leave ThunderClan. It was already stated that he wouldn't bear to be separated from Sparkpelt, and I doubt she would leave. I agree that they will probably help to rebuild it, but not join. |
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Nov 14, 2016 15:00:28 GMT -5
I wonder if cats from each clan will join it… It would be a way of uniting the scattered petals of the Blazing Star, and we haven't seen that prophecy in a while. Not to mention that it would be a way of almost reversing what happened to the original Skyclan… The other clans combined to help drive Skyclan out, so it would be both fitting and heartwarming if they combined again to bring them back…
As to who exactly would join, I'm not sure. Twigpaw and Violetpa might, but the former seems attached to her adopted family, and the latter to the rouges.
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Post by Pyropelt on Nov 14, 2016 18:54:55 GMT -5
I would like it to be Alderheart, Twigpaw, and Violetpaw. But I don't think it'll happen since Alderheart will have to be the main medicine cat if Jayfeather were to die, and he'd be too loyal to ThunderClan. Same with Twigpaw. For Violetpaw, I don't think she would unless Needletail was joining.
I do hope all three of them join SkyClan though!
And maybe Dovewing, so she can be with Hawkwing. Idk for some reason I like them together.
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Post by lollycat on Nov 14, 2016 20:56:14 GMT -5
Maybe the is really out there but I just wonder if the Tribe might come back? They are the ones who started the clans and it would bring things a full circle. Just a thought.
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Post by kinkajou on Nov 14, 2016 21:02:27 GMT -5
I hope Needletail and Rain realize Darktail and the rogues aren't actually good cats and try to join ShadowClan/SkyClan, but they don't accept them. Bonus points if they kill them slowly and painfully. I REALLY hope that
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Post by Firepup16 on Nov 15, 2016 19:34:38 GMT -5
I want Alderheart to move to Skyclan with Twigpaw and Violetpaw, but like others have said all the POV's would be in Skyclan then, so I kind of want Alderheart to stay in Thunderclan or at least temporarily be in Skyclan to train a medicine cat apprentice. Some people think Twigpaw will become a medicine cat, but wouldn't it be more of a twist if Violetpaw become the medicine cat?
Also I'm thinking that Cloudmist, Birdwing, and Fidgetpaw will return. Cherrytail is pretty old already, so I think she will either stay at the barn or end of dying. It's weird to think that if Barley dies and so does Cherrytail, then "Barley's Barn" won't have any cats living there. :c And I can see Clovertail being happy as a kittypet really so she's probably fine. Waspwhisker could come back too, but that would cause drama with the position of the deputy, and I think Hawkwing's going to become leader.
Kate basically confirmed that one of Mintfur and Nettlesplash's kits will return to the Clans which is neat, but that probably means the rest of his/her siblings and his/her parents won't be making a reappearance.
I think the rest of the cats that disappeared after the battle with Darktail and his rouges died. Maybe we will get to see those cats (Like Frecklewish) in Starclan?
The rest of the cats that stayed behind or became kittypets will definitely not come back to Skyclan in my opinion. If they didn't want to go on the Journey in the first place, I doubt they would want to go back with them unless they had a sign from Starclan. Also the Daylight Warriors that stayed won't come back either imo.
If you really think about it... the only cats that we know who were alive after the attack that stayed behind or got captured were Cherrytail, Cloudmist, Waspwhisker, Birdwing, Clovertail, Fidgetpaw, Curlypaw, Parsleyseed, Ebonyclaw, Harveymoon, Mintfur, Nettlesplash, and their four kits. That's 16 cats... Sagenose and Fallowfern came back, so I just don't really see a whole bunch more of them coming back otherwise we probably would have seen it at the end of Hawkwing's Journey. |
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 15, 2016 19:44:41 GMT -5
[ ✎ I doubt Alderheart will join SkyClan. While we haven't learned about Fidgetpaw, he may be a full meddie by now.] |
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Post by *Faith* on Nov 15, 2016 21:32:23 GMT -5
If you really think about it... the only cats that we know who were alive after the attack that stayed behind or got captured were Cherrytail, Cloudmist, Waspwhisker, Birdwing, Clovertail, Fidgetpaw, Curlypaw, Parsleyseed, Ebonyclaw, Harveymoon, Mintfur, Nettlesplash, and their four kits. That's 16 cats... Sagenose and Fallowfern came back, so I just don't really see a whole bunch more of them coming back otherwise we probably would have seen it at the end of Hawkwing's Journey. You mean Sandynose and Fallowfern? Sagenose was with them when his son and mate were taken. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 15, 2016 22:32:26 GMT -5
I want Alderheart to move to Skyclan with Twigpaw and Violetpaw, but like others have said all the POV's would be in Skyclan then, so I kind of want Alderheart to stay in Thunderclan or at least temporarily be in Skyclan to train a medicine cat apprentice. Some people think Twigpaw will become a medicine cat, but wouldn't it be more of a twist if Violetpaw become the medicine cat?
Also I'm thinking that Cloudmist, Birdwing, and Fidgetpaw will return. Cherrytail is pretty old already, so I think she will either stay at the barn or end of dying. It's weird to think that if Barley dies and so does Cherrytail, then "Barley's Barn" won't have any cats living there. :c And I can see Clovertail being happy as a kittypet really so she's probably fine. Waspwhisker could come back too, but that would cause drama with the position of the deputy, and I think Hawkwing's going to become leader.
Kate basically confirmed that one of Mintfur and Nettlesplash's kits will return to the Clans which is neat, but that probably means the rest of his/her siblings and his/her parents won't be making a reappearance.
I think the rest of the cats that disappeared after the battle with Darktail and his rouges died. Maybe we will get to see those cats (Like Frecklewish) in Starclan?
The rest of the cats that stayed behind or became kittypets will definitely not come back to Skyclan in my opinion. If they didn't want to go on the Journey in the first place, I doubt they would want to go back with them unless they had a sign from Starclan. Also the Daylight Warriors that stayed won't come back either imo.
If you really think about it... the only cats that we know who were alive after the attack that stayed behind or got captured were Cherrytail, Cloudmist, Waspwhisker, Birdwing, Clovertail, Fidgetpaw, Curlypaw, Parsleyseed, Ebonyclaw, Harveymoon, Mintfur, Nettlesplash, and their four kits. That's 16 cats... Sagenose and Fallowfern came back, so I just don't really see a whole bunch more of them coming back otherwise we probably would have seen it at the end of Hawkwing's Journey. The solution might be Sparkpelt getting a pov, or Alderheart goes but Twigpaw stays. She doesn't seem to have any problem with ThunderClan. The other solution is Alder training another cat like you said, but I still want Leafpool to die or retire. Three meddies is annoying. Leafstar had no hope in Waspwhisker returning, even though Hawkwing was willing to step down if he ever did return. I do wonder what will happen to the cats that were captured. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 15, 2016 22:33:14 GMT -5
[ ✎ I doubt Alderheart will join SkyClan. While we haven't learned about Fidgetpaw, he may be a full meddie by now.] Spoilers: Fidgetpaw was taken by Twolegs along with some other cats. |
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 15, 2016 22:40:11 GMT -5
[ ✎ I doubt Alderheart will join SkyClan. While we haven't learned about Fidgetpaw, he may be a full meddie by now.] Spoilers: Fidgetpaw was taken by Twolegs along with some other cats. [ ✎ I thought I read that he came back? Oh well, it's been a while. I'd really rather have Alderheart do what Leafpool did she then we don't have Leafpool remain a medicine cat and gets booted.] |
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Post by Firepup16 on Nov 16, 2016 0:54:26 GMT -5
If you really think about it... the only cats that we know who were alive after the attack that stayed behind or got captured were Cherrytail, Cloudmist, Waspwhisker, Birdwing, Clovertail, Fidgetpaw, Curlypaw, Parsleyseed, Ebonyclaw, Harveymoon, Mintfur, Nettlesplash, and their four kits. That's 16 cats... Sagenose and Fallowfern came back, so I just don't really see a whole bunch more of them coming back otherwise we probably would have seen it at the end of Hawkwing's Journey. You mean Sandynose and Fallowfern? Sagenose was with them when his son and mate were taken. Yes... I knew those two would get confusing with similar names. xD |
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Post by Holy Fern on Dec 3, 2016 12:14:11 GMT -5
I think that Violetpaw and Twigpaw should go to SkyClan. That way Violetpaw won't suffer with the rogues and ShadowClan, and Twigpaw won't be lonely. Plus, SkyClan has received a prophecy, and Twigpaw and Violetpaw probably have to do with it. Because one of the phrases in the prophecy is: Clear the sky. This definitely refers to SkyClan. Also, I'm convinced that Twigpaw and Violetpaw are Hawkwing's daughters.
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Post by pastelpills on Dec 4, 2016 10:58:25 GMT -5
I think that Violetpaw and Twigpaw should go to SkyClan. That way Violetpaw won't suffer with the rogues and ShadowClan, and Twigpaw won't be lonely. Plus, SkyClan has received a prophecy, and Twigpaw and Violetpaw probably have to do with it. Because one of the phrases in the prophecy is: Clear the sky. This definitely refers to SkyClan. Also, I'm convinced that Twigpaw and Violetpaw are Hawkwing's daughters. SPOILERS Only Twigpaw is the prophecy cat |
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Post by Pixie on Dec 4, 2016 11:10:44 GMT -5
How is Twigpaw the only prophecy cat?
What if Leafpool went to SkyClan?
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Post by pastelpills on Dec 4, 2016 11:15:37 GMT -5
How is Twigpaw the only prophecy cat? What if Leafpool went to SkyClan? In HJ, there is a vision of a she-cat that looks just like Hawkwing, his daughter. Everyone with half a brain cell can tell that it was Twigpaw, but there is no trace of Violetpaw. |
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Post by Pixie on Dec 4, 2016 11:22:51 GMT -5
Heh. I really need to get the book. Maybe it's foreshadowing death?
I feel like AVoS is the most exciting arc yet?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 11:22:39 GMT -5
Twigpaw and Voiletpaw for sure. I think Nettlesplash Mintfur and her kits will come to the lake. For sure Curlypaw and Fidgetpaw are coming back and so is Birdwing. Pebbleshine will come back for sure. Im not sure about Parsleyseed. He liked being a kittypet. I don't feel like Alderheart will join Skyclan but maybe he will help Fidgetpaw if he returns .
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