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Post by nowarriornameshere on Nov 21, 2023 23:48:46 GMT -5
I'll talk shit about Berryheart and her awful values all day, but I'll at least say she MEANT well and suffered a traumatic event that led to her developing that way. Curlfeather, though, holy shit.
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Post by Spinestar on Nov 22, 2023 1:04:48 GMT -5
Curlfeather definitley. I can't believe what she did to Frostpaw, it was horrible. I feel so bad for Frostpaw, she doesn't deserve this. Agreed w Curlfeather being in the worse for reasons you mentioned. Also, as a Harestar super fan, I love your pfp!
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 22, 2023 3:51:44 GMT -5
Personally to me, Berryheart.
Curlfeather was terrible, but I still don't think her last moments to save her own daughter was part of her "big plan". She literally got ripped apart by dogs trying to get her to safety.
I chose Berryheart because she has been around in this arc longer, compared to Curlfeather who got iced in the first book. And whereas Curlfeather was killed, most of the ones driving her "plan" right now while she's dead are literally Splashtail + Co.
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Post by sorrelheart909 on Nov 23, 2023 20:51:25 GMT -5
Personally to me, Berryheart. Curlfeather was terrible, but I still don't think her last moments to save her own daughter was part of her "big plan". She literally got ripped apart by dogs trying to get her to safety. I chose Berryheart because she has been around in this arc longer, compared to Curlfeather who got iced in the first book. And whereas Curlfeather was killed, most of the ones driving her "plan" right now while she's dead are literally Splashtail + Co. I get what your saying, but even though Curlfeather saved her daughter (no matter the reason) she deceived her daughter and the way she talked to Splashtail about how easy Frostpaw was to convince just shows how little she cares about Frostpaw. I really doubt Curlfeather saved her to be nice,but even if she did it does not make up for what she did. Berryheart seems to have more of a reason for her actions even though it is not a good one.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 3, 2023 2:20:42 GMT -5
Personally to me, Berryheart. Curlfeather was terrible, but I still don't think her last moments to save her own daughter was part of her "big plan". She literally got ripped apart by dogs trying to get her to safety. I chose Berryheart because she has been around in this arc longer, compared to Curlfeather who got iced in the first book. And whereas Curlfeather was killed, most of the ones driving her "plan" right now while she's dead are literally Splashtail + Co. I get what your saying, but even though Curlfeather saved her daughter (no matter the reason) she deceived her daughter and the way she talked to Splashtail about how easy Frostpaw was to convince just shows how little she cares about Frostpaw. I really doubt Curlfeather saved her to be nice,but even if she did it does not make up for what she did. Berryheart seems to have more of a reason for her actions even though it is not a good one. Not saying she's innocent. I just think it's a bit strange people think that her dying for her daughter was also part of her big plan too, when it's obviously not the case. She still very much did terrible things, she still manipulated her daughter, but I don't think her last moments were part of that manipulation either. On the other hand, because Berryheart has been around longer, from pure screen time alone, we see her character much more, and she grates my nerves (in a good way as an antagonist) much more. And personally, to me, Berryheart's reasoning and actions to me is worse, but let me repeat that again, it's a personal reason. You're more likely to run into Berryhearts in your lifetime than Curlfeathers, imo.
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Post by stupidflower on Dec 3, 2023 9:47:29 GMT -5
Curlfeather used the death of Frostpaw's father to manipulate her into a career. She lied and manipulated Frostpaw into a life of celibacy, stress, and isolation from many of her Clanmates, without thinking of how this might affect her daughter's mental state. She put her daughter in a horrible situation, with the whole Clan resting on her shoulders, causing Frostpaw anxiety, stress, and depression, and she said nothing. She made her daughter go through a crisis and trauma to get what she wanted. She abused her daughter's belief that she was special, and manipulated her decision. She watched as Frostpaw broke under pressure and came to her for comfort, and she said nothing. Because of her, Frostpaw, who was once friendly, energetic, and eager, is now paranoid, distrustful, and traumatized.
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Post by Nettle on Dec 3, 2023 20:28:16 GMT -5
Curlfeather used the death of Frostpaw's father to manipulate her into a career. She lied and manipulated Frostpaw into a life of celibacy, stress, and isolation from many of her Clanmates, without thinking of how this might affect her daughter's mental state. She put her daughter in a horrible situation, with the whole Clan resting on her shoulders, causing Frostpaw anxiety, stress, and depression, and she said nothing. She made her daughter go through a crisis and trauma to get what she wanted. She abused her daughter's belief that she was special, and manipulated her decision. She watched as Frostpaw broke under pressure and came to her for comfort, and she said nothing. Because of her, Frostpaw, who was once friendly, energetic, and eager, is now paranoid, distrustful, and traumatized. Nah this is actually beautiful. ((Not the abuse, the speech wow that came out wrong.))
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