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Post by venus on Apr 6, 2018 19:56:57 GMT -5
good post op xoxo
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Post by Fire the Watcher of the vale on Apr 8, 2018 22:15:23 GMT -5
If any of y'all want to see a good show that addresses a bit of this, watch the good doctor.
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sleepy_mastiff
DUE TO ACTIVITY ISSUES I WILL BE LETTING GO OF ALL OF MY CHARACTERS EXCEPT DEW AND WIND
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Post by sleepy_mastiff on Apr 9, 2018 5:41:37 GMT -5
I think it's disgusting how many people treat autism as a disease. You cannot catch it, it is not contagious. There is no bug bite, food or country that you get it from. There are just the few out of every hundred who are born with it, and treating them like guinea pigs trying to "cure" it is a horrible thing. Autism already changes the way that their mind allows them to see the world, and sometimes it can be in scary ways, their little selfish experiments aren't helping.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Apr 10, 2018 21:19:33 GMT -5
Autism speaks suck!
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Post by phantomstar57 on Apr 16, 2018 12:44:23 GMT -5
Never knew that about AB.
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Stream
"Heh. 'E-y-e?' That's 'ewe.'"
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Post by Stream on Apr 17, 2018 6:23:02 GMT -5
Hold on, sorry to bother you with this wall of text, but how is it a "hate group" for wanting to find way to cure autism? Yes, autism is definitely NOT a disease, but from what I've seen, it reaaaally sucks to have it. I'm not speaking as an outsider, either; my brother is autistic. Due to this, he doesn't really know social cues, or how to socialize like a normal person. This has caused people around him to become uncomfortable and sort of passive-aggressively pick on him--and he didn't even realize he was being bullied until our parents pointed it out. (No, I'm not trying to victim-blame or anything stupid like that, I'm just trying to demonstrate how his autism has affected how people treat him.) His peers have even gone so far as to report him to their college management. A ridiculously immature reaction, but, well, it happened. The college won't even accept his autism as an excuse. He doesn't really like this. He is not happy with this. He cries about this. Sure, autism is a part of who he is, but I doubt he likes it. If he had the choice to not be autistic, I'm pretty sure he would do it. And he isn't even the highest-functioning case.
(Disclaimer, I know next to nothing of this group except what you've described. If it actually is as garbage as you say, please tell me more. Without being condescending. Please.)
(Also I'm scared please don't murder me for questioning what seems to be the majority's opinion ;-; )
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 7:07:17 GMT -5
it's a hate group because it actively hates autistic people. i actually have a couple of links; here's a guide as to why autism speaks is bad here's a guide as to how it's a hate group
there's also no such thing as high-functioning / low-functioning autism, as it's a (pretty big) spectrum and not a linear line ^^ but uh, autism is a learning disability that will never be curable; it's sort of a part of how people are? you can have medication and therapy to soothe some of the symptoms, but you will never be cured. it's a matter of finding people who accept you as you are, and that becomes easier in later-life. there will never be a cure for autism because it's not a curable thing, that's why scientists don't tend to look into it. it's a disability that you're born with, and that's generally widely accepted. yeah it sucks to have it sometimes, but that's because of how society treats people. it's society that needs to be cured, not autism. it would suck not to have it, too - i'm so used to having it now that if i was suddenly allistic, i think it would sort of throw me around because it's what i'm used to & i've adapted to living with it. it sounds like your brother needs help on how to cope, and the college should probably be spoken to; dismissing autism as a cause for many things is generally Not A Very Good Thing to do, especially if he's struggling in the social department. colleges are supposed to support & aid autistic people as, as i said before, it's a disability.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 7:11:19 GMT -5
Hold on, sorry to bother you with this wall of text, but how is it a "hate group" for wanting to find way to cure autism? Yes, autism is definitely NOT a disease, but from what I've seen, it reaaaally sucks to have it. I'm not speaking as an outsider, either; my brother is autistic. Due to this, he doesn't really know social cues, or how to socialize like a normal person. This has caused people around him to become uncomfortable and sort of passive-aggressively pick on him--and he didn't even realize he was being bullied until our parents pointed it out. (No, I'm not trying to victim-blame or anything stupid like that, I'm just trying to demonstrate how his autism has affected how people treat him.) His peers have even gone so far as to report him to their college management. A ridiculously immature reaction, but, well, it happened. The college won't even accept his autism as an excuse. He doesn't really like this. He is not happy with this. He cries about this. Sure, autism is a part of who he is, but I doubt he likes it. If he had the choice to not be autistic, I'm pretty sure he would do it. And he isn't even the highest-functioning case. (Disclaimer, I know next to nothing of this group except what you've described. If it actually is as garbage as you say, please tell me more. Without being condescending. Please.) (Also I'm scared please don't murder me for questioning what seems to be the majority's opinion ;-; ) Autism cannot be cured, like other developmental disorders. You can do things to help you and others manage a developmental disorder but it cannot be "cured" because it is part of who you are functionally. The notion of "curing it" is considered ableist because it talks of autism as if it were a disease, and fits into the common stereotype of people pitying autistics as well as many other harmful ideas about autism as a whole. I myself have a developmental disorder that shares many similar traits to autism, and the idea of being "cured" for the way my brain works honestly kind of horrifies me. I don't like my developmental disorder, yes, but it is a part of me and the idea of "curing" it dehumanizes the way I function and treats me as if I am to be pitied just for having a differently-functioning head. Autism Speaks has two ads in particular that are a massive problem: -an "I am Autism" ad that treats autism as a scary disease that'll take your children and "ruin your marriage" (quote unquote), which fits into the harmful stereotype of autism needing a cure, -an ad featuring a mother who contemplated killing her own child because they were autistic. You can see that Autism Speaks sees autism not as what it is but as a horrifying smallpox-like monster. Teaching autistic children that autism is a bad thing to be frowned upon is basically telling them the way they think is invalid. It's like telling any other group of children that something they are born with, cannot control having, and is a part of their identity is horrible and should be cured.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 8:58:10 GMT -5
Agree with everything above but im just gonna pose a big what if question because i simply am curious.
I dont have it myself but i have bpd, which is also incurable and causes me trouble and is simply a part of me, and adhd which has a few similarities. (Not that im claiming to know exactly how you feel about it but I relate to a lot of autism-y things sometimes. Please dont take me out of context.)
Suppose there was a "cure" or some way to alleviate symptoms like a medicine or brain surgery. Would you do it?
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Post by tiger beetle on Apr 17, 2018 9:05:03 GMT -5
1. Hermit: I would not. I don’t want to be transformed into a different person. That said, I would understand someone who did.
2. Stream: notice that the things you described are problems because other people don’t accept him for who he is, not inherent parts of autism. Autism Speaks dresses it up with fancy language about solving problems, but functionally both AS and the bullies are saying that he shouldn’t exist in the way he exists.
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Post by Tawnyfire on Apr 27, 2018 14:47:30 GMT -5
Huh, I didn't know about this group, but the description does remind me of how other mental illness' are treated. Anyway, ill be sure to wear red & gold for the rest of the month.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 10:30:45 GMT -5
it’s the eve of april and autism speaks is spreading their shit like a monkey at the zoo again. bumping back this old thread autistic mood: the dread right before april begins...
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Post by Northstar3213 on Mar 31, 2019 11:01:12 GMT -5
Stealing/Reposting meme because it’s relevant
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Post by scint on Mar 31, 2019 12:06:20 GMT -5
As a person with autism, thank you for this post op.
(Somehow I managed to find red shirts in my closet, but not gold? Hmm. I guess I'll just wear red, then, unless I find some gold shirts.)
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Post by dashingshadows on Mar 31, 2019 16:37:48 GMT -5
Correct
I'm gonna be protesting an A$ event next week actually
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