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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:56:13 GMT -5
Going green may not actually be what you want to do for this holiday. Looking mostly at you, fellow pagan bros. I'm not going to bore you with all the information on Saint Patrick you can easily find by yourself on wikipedia. Though to sum up, it is widely known that he was made a Saint for bringing Catholicism to Ireland specifically. A lot of Christians also see this as a good thing for them. What I'm bringing more attention to here is the legend of Saint Patrick driving the snakes from Ireland. Which is, quite obviously, metaphor because Ireland has never recorded had a snake problem. Early Druidic priests, who wore tattoos of serpents are more than likely the snakes referred to as well as other local pagan traditions. There is MUCH debate as to whether Saint Patrick ever did such a thing or not, as some historians debate over where and when the attribution came to be and why it is attributed to this Saint, and there is absolutely no evidence for what some sources cite as being some sort of a cultural genocide. What is apparent however, is that Christianity in Ireland did happen to swallow quite a lot of old traditions on it's path to conversion. Which is still disappointing none the less. For this reason, more and more people who celebrate paganism have started wearing black instead of green on Saint Patrick's Day as a symbol against the church and in remembrance or symbolism over a seemingly lost struggle to keep traditions in tact. There is also the issue of White or Orange. Orange, white, and green are the colors of the Irish flag, and the church may be symbolic of green, but what of the other two? For some, orange and white are symbols of Ireland's partition in 1912 into the North and the South. The northern now being controlled by the UK and the southern, a now sovereign nation. Wearing orange for Ireland is symbolic of keeping this separation between the two halves, while white is for a reunited Ireland, not underneath foreign rule and/or peace between the two halves. What colors will you wear tomorrow? Why will you wear them?
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Post by dashingshadows on Mar 16, 2017 20:27:44 GMT -5
Green I just love how my ancestors enslaved this dude, but then he turned out to be a great motivational speaker and they were like "Yeah, I'm gonna listen to the pig-feeder now."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:30:05 GMT -5
Personally I'm wearing black. Legend or no legend, I feel like it is about trying to raise awareness and preserve tradition. Also that's what a majority of my wardrobe is anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:33:56 GMT -5
Uh... green. I'm so sorry, but as a half-Irish person, I can't just wear black with being jumped on by everyone else in my family. My family wouldn't really understand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:35:01 GMT -5
Well green also prevents you from being pinched by people who are jerks. So I mean, that should also be mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:36:47 GMT -5
Well green also prevents you from being pinched by people who are jerks. So I mean, that should also be mentioned. I don't want to be pinched Also I don't have anything black right now so even if I did want to wear black I can't anyway
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:38:06 GMT -5
You could still add white or orange. :3
Or both if you just don't care and just wanna look like the flag.
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Post by mickle on Mar 16, 2017 20:38:52 GMT -5
I'm gonna be wearing green for other reasons but this was an interesting read. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:42:19 GMT -5
Even if I didn't motivate anyone to change their outfits for tomorrow or they can't, I'm still glad to share cool facts.
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Post by Sour Candy on Mar 16, 2017 20:50:29 GMT -5
Personally I'm wearing black. Legend or no legend, I feel like it is about trying to raise awareness and preserve tradition. Also that's what a majority of my wardrobe is anyways. Same here on both Honestly if anyone pinches me I'm going to sock them in the [oops! please keep language appropriate, thanks] face
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:52:46 GMT -5
Personally I'm wearing black. Legend or no legend, I feel like it is about trying to raise awareness and preserve tradition. Also that's what a majority of my wardrobe is anyways. Same here on both Honestly if anyone pinches me I'm going to sock them in the [oops! please keep language appropriate, thanks] faceI love you man.
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Post by Sour Candy on Mar 16, 2017 20:54:04 GMT -5
Same here on both Honestly if anyone pinches me I'm going to sock them in the [oops! please keep language appropriate, thanks] faceI love you man. *fingerguns* Love ya too my dude
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Post by bite me on Mar 16, 2017 20:58:34 GMT -5
Green Anything else and you're excommunicated from the St Paddy's day cult especially at the parades its just a sea of green but also probably black bc 99.9% of my wardrobe is so Best of both worlds I s'pose
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Post by Northstar3213 on Mar 16, 2017 21:26:23 GMT -5
Now I'm gonna wear all four colors to just to tick everyone off.
Also green is good because trees. let 'em grow! let em' grow!
Orange is good because oranges, also sunshine!
Black is good because my neighbor had the nicest black dog. also my grandma had a black lab that was so sweet that he loved to play with little baby northy!
white is good for the happy little clouds! clouds have rainbows! rainbows lead you to leprechaun gold!
Now where's the whiskey and spuds?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 21:27:26 GMT -5
Now I'm gonna wear all four colors to just to tick everyone off. Also green is good because trees. let 'em grow! let em' grow! Orange is good because oranges, also sunshine! Black is good because my neighbor had the nicest black dog. also my grandma had a black lab that was so sweet that he loved to play with little baby northy! white is good for the happy little clouds! clouds have rainbows! rainbows lead you to leprechaun gold! Now where's the whiskey and spuds? Good reasoning.
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Post by ʙᴄᴘʀɪɴᴄᴇss on Mar 16, 2017 22:34:05 GMT -5
I literally have no green or orange clothes, lol. I don't celebrate Saint Patricks day though, so chances are I'll be wearing something that has nothing to do with the holiday.
I've never heard of anybody pinching people for not wearing green, although it sounds like something annoying kids would do.
I don't really know enough about Ireland to form on opinion of whether or not it should be united, and I'd just feel like a meddling American if I tried to weigh in on the topic anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 22:37:23 GMT -5
I literally have no green or orange clothes, lol. I don't celebrate Saint Patricks day though, so chances are I'll be wearing something that has nothing to do with the holiday. I've never heard of anybody pinching people for not wearing green, although it sounds like something annoying kids would do. It's a really dumb thing that immature people do a lot. I wasn't wearing green once and I had this kid pinch me in the chest and run off freshman year, he was some upperclassman thinking it was downright hysterical to pinch every freshman as hard as he possibly could.
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Post by Dawnwing on Mar 17, 2017 0:11:10 GMT -5
A shirt I got on my Ireland vacation this past year, just outside of Killarney. (It's actually more greenish than this picture shows, sort of an olive green, but it's this shirt.) And with it, this shamrock-and-swirl necklace with matching earrings that I got in Dublin on O'Connell Street:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 2:54:13 GMT -5
A shirt I got on my Ireland vacation this past year, just outside of Killarney. (It's actually more greenish than this picture shows, sort of an olive green, but it's this shirt.) And with it, this shamrock-and-swirl necklace with matching earrings that I got in Dublin on O'Connell Street: Oh man I LOVE these both a lot. That's so cool. I envy people who get to go to/live in different countries. I've barely been outside my own state.
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Post by Dawnwing on Mar 17, 2017 3:44:39 GMT -5
Thanks! That was my first time out of the country (I was almost 24 at the time.)
I've been interested in Ireland since like middle school due to the music, and once I got a full-time job after college I happened to find a tourism video in the bargain bin at the store, and I began to think, "You know, I could actually do this." So my friend and I saved up and planned it out for two long years and went for two and a half weeks. Not a day goes by when I don't think of it repeatedly and long for it - I'm thinking of going back next year. If you ever get the chance to travel, I recommend Ireland 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 3:51:18 GMT -5
Thanks! That was my first time out of the country (I was almost 24 at the time.) I've been interested in Ireland since like middle school due to the music, and once I got a full-time job after college I happened to find a tourism video in the bargain bin at the store, and I began to think, "You know, I could actually do this." So my friend and I saved up and planned it out for two long years and went for two and a half weeks. Not a day goes by when I don't think of it repeatedly and long for it - I'm thinking of going back next year. If you ever get the chance to travel, I recommend Ireland 100%. I have so many places I want to go around the world. Norway is still first for me but I'd also love to go to Sweden and Germany and Italy and Japan and Ireland and sfhalkdndlahlaknciqeo... I doubt I ever will. So my next best is when I die I am haunting the frick out of Earth until I see all the cool places.
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Post by argyle lechuga on Mar 17, 2017 4:52:14 GMT -5
hmm... im kinda conflicted on this. im not a pagan (i'm nonreligious) so idk if my opinion matters really but like some of this seems kinda icky. i understand wearing black as a way to spread awareness for pagan culture but using it as a way to protest a religion seems really problematic. there's a difference between defending ur culture and putting down someone else's. also and more importantly imo, for the most part St Pat's Day isn't about religion anymore. my dad's side of the family is primarily Irish and they see it as a celebration of Irish culture more than a church day. wearing black as a protest for this sort of thing could be interpreted as extremely disrespectful. if u view it as a cultural festival, religion would have very little to do with it and defending ur religion on that day wouldn't make sense. imo, don't try and make this day into something it isn't.
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Post by Northstar3213 on Mar 17, 2017 9:05:20 GMT -5
Of course I ended up wearing all navy blue xD
Meh I'll just slap on my Celtic trinity pendant
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Post by Card against Humanity on Mar 17, 2017 9:16:12 GMT -5
I completely forgot that it was Saint Patrick's Day but im currently wearing a turquoise green shirt so umm
oops
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 9:31:41 GMT -5
Black does not protest a religion?? It protests and mourns the fact that traditions were lost. But yes, take the meaning the complete opposite way of how it was meant and propagate more hate against us. Thats faaaan taaaas tiiiic
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Post by Sour Candy on Mar 17, 2017 9:36:19 GMT -5
Forgot to organize my clothing for today lol whoops Eh my coat is black anyway
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Draco
On a first-name basis with the night
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Post by Draco on Mar 17, 2017 9:37:35 GMT -5
Black does not protest a religion?? It protests and mourns the fact that traditions were lost. But yes, take the meaning the complete opposite way of how it was meant and propagate more hate against us. Thats faaaan taaaas tiiiic Oh!! i misunderstood I'm sorry you guys are fine , just be nice people, ok? But I mean you are a good person
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